Sunday, October 5, 2008
Sprint Cup Series At Talladega on ABC Sports
SPEED has handled the pre-race action of practice and qualifying this weekend. Sunday afternoon at 1PM will be the first time viewers will be seeing the ESPN on ABC crew.
Allen Bestwick will start the ball rolling with Brad Daugherty and Rusty Wallace from the Infield Pit Studio. The NASCAR Countdown pre-race show should be interesting with Daugherty having just completed a deal to become a satellite team of Michael Waltrip next season in the Cup Series.
Other than The Chasers, there are some names at the back of the field like Terry Labonte and Kenny Wallace that may be a factor before the race is over. Not necessarily in winning, but in helping someone to achieve that goal.
Last season, ESPN was fascinated by "the big one" and said it over-and-over again during the pre-race show. Lost in the shuffle was the actual story of the race field and what viewers could expect other than accidents.
Dr. Jerry Punch will take over at 2PM and begin the race coverage. He will be joined as usual by Dale Jarrett and Andy Petree. Tim Brewer will be in the Tech Center. Down on pit road will be Shannon Spake, Jamie Little, Dave Burns and Mike Massaro.
It is very hard for the announcers to see the backstretch, so they will be basically watching the same pictures as the viewers at home when they are calling the action on that part of the track. The choice of whether they look out at the track or continue to follow the TV monitors in the booth for the other racing should be easy to determine.
The COT has shown both a tendency to allow two cars to run fast when hooked-up just right and to make for boring racing during the early parts of this race. If teams hang back and gather together it will be up to the ESPN crew to choose to inform the viewers or ignore it.
The TV gang has been making great use of the double video box effect that allows the race to continue for the viewers even as Brewer talks tech or a crew chief is interviewed. Look for increased use of the aerial shot and the speed shots, especially after a restart.
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That's pretty sad. Not sure if you saw the coverage maps for this weekend's NFL, but the Bills-Cardinals game was only available in the New York and Phoenix markets. The Bills are a good team, but I blame CBS for that one. Though they're not as bad as ESPN. (had to keep it somewhat on topic)
BIG ONE up front
Damn. The wreck isn't even finished yet... "Lots of chasers in that one".
Chasers Involved
CRUD!
Johnson might just have this race to thank for a 3rd straight championship...
OK, say it with me.
THEY MISSED IT COMPLETELY!
Jr's AMP paint scheme doesn't stick out like the Guard does. I can't even find him.
well, that just sucks big time.
guess that shook the script up a bit, doncha think?
I think the commercial free part is an advance appology for the fact they will not have post race coverage. (unless somehow the race ends in 5 minutes so we can get a 2 minute post race)
crunch crunch crunch. thats dega for ya...
This is the part of racing I hate
HOLY SMOKES@@ the big one..biff an Jr.
Wah!!! Jr is so screwed.
Sophia grabbing for tissues....
mRN getting off station from sun spots...Blaney hit...Harvick...my gosh...I HATE to see this.
for all
Well, espn/abc got their wish. They have decreed that the big one has happened.
At least they aren't laughing & can't add music to this accident.
Doc is writing down numbers!!!!!
J.D.,
JR. just said, "We're done."
Left Coast Kenny
Alameda, California
Jimmie screaming "I didn't hit a thing", "I don't care what you say I'm riding in the back for the rest of the frigging race". Chad there's only 5 cars left can't we even try for a win? Too funny
Teammates... Roush won't be happy.
Dale Jr is gonna be on suicide watch after this...he has been so depressed lately. :(
Mikey made it, he's our only hope now
Maybe an odd wad will win since the Chasers wrecked. I can't wait for the "feelings" interviews.
J.D.,
Good night everybody. I'm going out to catch some Vitamin D.
Left Coast Kenny
Alameda, California
Amazing in car with Harvick!!!
For ONCE PSPN caught a big action moment LIVE.
Depressing as it all is..>THIS is when you show the bumper cams.
Makes me wonder how the heck Denny is, too
I hope we go overtiime on ABC
i take it back, just saw the late hit
I'm calling it right now... Paul Menard for the win
Involved:
Edwards, Biffle, Jr., Harvick, Kvapil, Blaney, Montoya. Not sure about anyone else.
If any ABC East Coast stations leave the coverage at 6PM, make sure to tell us that right here with the call letters of the station.
The Biff is pretty cool considering 99 wrecked him...
JD, you got it right. They missed it badly. Really really bad camera work. Too tight.
Tony will lose lead and Joe Nemecheck will win.
Wow. That "Chasers Involved" graphic just proved what ESPN thinks of the non-chasers.
After seeing the graphic on those involved in the big one....
WHAT THE HECK ESPN THERE WERE NON CHASERS INVOLVED!!!!!
BTW, anyone notice Nemechek is 2nd?
They only listed the chasers involved, are you kidding me??!!
well, my name was on the nose of the #88 today and i figured it'd be bump-drafted off by the end of the race. ah well.
too bad espn missed it . . .
jimmie's voice sounded a bit . . . high and stressed just then. guess knaus was trying to make him laugh but johnson wasn't having any of it. i can't say i disagree with his decision to just ride around in the back for the last 10 laps.
Ok...up first Shannon Spook with biffle....guess Jamie will ask about "feelings".
somebody just needs to STARE at her quietly when she asks that junk...and make her squirm for her own follow up.
Wow..where is Mikey...could he? Where's Kenny wallace?
I guess the good news is so many Chaser were in this and it might not mess up the actual top 12 that much...my math is fuzzy.
WOW..Roush saying Carl started it...would hate to be in his meeting tomorrow.
TWIN should be interesting.
Kevin smiling... :)
Kvapil!! Almost made it through there :(
Jo said...
Tony will lose lead and Joe Nemecheck will win.
That would be awesome, though one of my friends would be mad for a month.
LOVE Harvick's attitude!
What did you see? How do you feel. Get the steet metal and hammer. I'm going to need them.
And once more we see Kim Burton. I'll get she wishes those cameras would leave her alone.JP's monotone comment was so . . . can't think of an appropriate word for how much air time he wasted.
99 fessed up to it
Nice comments by Harvick and Edwards.
That's why Harvick's awesome! He doesn't talk like a robot
If Nemechek wins, I doubt ABC sticks around for the victory lane interview, and tells us to wait for
NASCAR Now...I wouldn't put it past them.
LOL
Jamie says, "was that the right time to make that move?"
Carl: "I don't think there was a right time to make that move."
LOL
Why are the fans cheering? No explanation...Jr. interview with Spake instead.
Sheet metal, & big hammer!
Shannon Spake has been tripping over her tongue all day!
These ESPN..female pit reporters seem very Palinesque...
Agreed about Harvick's comments.. I have a lot of respect for him.
I bet we hit 700 comments!
Jamie now...with MK....cringing just in case.....
Carl fessed up and took responsibility for it...what a mess...he says he worries about the idiots here...and he caused it.
but came short of callling himself an idiot.
JOONYER. so breathless again...is he a smoker or something?
Jr is so sweet...apologizing to Jimmie...wow...he seems ok now..adrenalin calming down as he speaks...poor thing...you just want to give these boys a hug :(
great interview with Jr
If I can say something good about ESPN, I like the red flag timer on the leaderboard. I don't remember them doing that before.
Oh my...Jr...speaking of the ARCA race?
NEVER!
Tracy said...
Why are the fans cheering? No explanation...Jr. interview with Spake instead
Tracy I'm betting JR's interview was on the big scree at the track
And a Comm'l.!! and bumper cam shot & no word on Denny!!! WTG espn on abc. What garbage!!!
I know why Jamie & Shannon ask "what happened?" They watch #*^%;'s coverage. Good news, Weed was in it.
tracy said...
Why are the fans cheering? No explanation...Jr. interview with Spake instead.
have never been to 'dega so i could be wrong but at other tracks, the driver post-infield care interviews appear on the big screen at the track and the fans react to those images.
I think Junior needs to get in shape, he's always exhausted when he gets out
So much for commercial free.
JP asking for any info on Hamlin
No updates on Denny yet?
Wow, 2/3 of the cars have lead the race.
yea, Jamie's question was lame' Was that a good time to make that move'.
Why, yes Jamie it was...I'd waited all day to cause the big one!!
sigh
I could have slept through that wreck and never known.... Thank goodness for the scanners - the spotters are MUCH more animated than Dr. P.
Carl won some points with me. Nice way to own up to his mistake.
Joe Nemechek in 2nd spot and no mention!
"No updates on Denny yet?"
he went to the hospital. Punch said so. you must have missed it.
Why promise "no more commercial breaks" if you don't mean it? Do you think we forgot you said it?
bevo said...
JP asking for any info on Hamlin
October 5, 2008 6:06 PM
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Did he get any?
Still haven't heard any thing
are there really less than 20 cars left?!?
I have a feeling if we're hoping for a winner's interview we better start rooting for the 20, 48, 31, and 07. I think they're our only hopes left.
Well I know that Anon 6:07, was wondering if there was any further info
So, I'm thinking maybe the Truck crew used a stun gun on the director and producer cuz the whole broadcast has stepped it up.
So much for NO commercials. I had a local one here in MI. Bet no VL or much of one.
16 cars on the lead lap.
I think Mikey went to the garage too
jo-
No he didn't but he was asking during the commercial
That sure is the big problem with the commercial free deal.
david said...
Oh my...Jr...speaking of the ARCA race?
NEVER!
two thoughts:
rickey carmichael is a buddy and was racing arca until (no surprise) a tire blew. carmichael ran for harvick's team
also, that was dale with his owner hat on and as close as i suspect he'll come to discussing the tire situation this weekend. he has learned his lesson about speaking out, even when he's merely stating the obvious.
Don't forget folks, no lights at Dega.
Nothing like lying about not having any more commercials, huh?
HotPass changes-
Harvick now Kyle
Jr now Stewart
Edwards now Johnson
Gordon still Burton
about the commercial break. I could be wrong but I believe they have to allow the stations to air commercials within a certain amount of time of the top of the hour, for legal ID's and etc... I could be wrong, but I'll give ESPU a break on it.
brian,
You are exactly right about that.
you will never get Allen in the booth so you might as well stop your campaign.
Unless you make that decision yourself, you have no way to know this.
Still Denny is alert & awake is only news.... so we know nothing new.
about the commercial break. I could be wrong but I believe they have to allow the stations to air commercials within a certain amount of time of the top of the hour, for legal ID's and etc...
Then they shouldn't promise something they can't deliver.
"i've used up all my luck for one day. there's something in me that's saying just be smart."
wow. johnson still sounds VERY shook up. and folks are wondering about dale? i'm thinking jimmie's hearing those talladega voices . . .
let's hope he doesn't decide to park it, get out and retire.
thx bevo...i didn't even think to check.
I am there now!!!
See ya espn.
STILL nothing on Joe Nemechek?
another commercial after commercial free...or are they showing replays...fake out with the bumper music.
I knew we would NOT see commercial free...
bait and switch but I lost MRN as the sun lowered for some reason..will try again in a few minutes maybe? FM station
reminds me of an old story by shrader...wasn't there once just about 15 cars on a lead lap and his crew chief said they could go to the end without a wreck..and Schrader said something like "you don't have much faith in us having the ability to mess up again do you?"
guess you had to be there. is Kenny in the race...
what the heck is going on...where is mikey and Kenny W.
COULD ESPN UPDATE US
JD I give this show a 15...off the charts dreadful.
I take back my nine.
Sean said...
Well I know that Anon 6:07, was wondering if there was any further info
October 5, 2008 6:09 PM
Well thats about all ESPN can get right now. Its not like they have a reporter at the hospital and they are not going to send a camera to the hospital with Hamlin. I think that is fine for now.
Mikey pit road not garage but based on the video I'm sure he's in bad shape car wise
who said it's like the end of an ARCA race? LMAO! but those are good races, too
he he..arca racers suck. ;)
Just a reminder folks, don't feed the trolls. I will handle things.
Thanks,
JD
Monday:
Biffle and Waltrip on TWIN.
Evernham, LaJoie and Craven on NN.
"Toyota and Dodge. We could have a battle of brands here." I kid you not. That's what JP just said.
Sadler just pushing Tony around LOL
Look at that - it's Stewart's best friend Elliott :)
JP was talking about Subway and McDonalds
Is that Subway being bump drafted by McDonalds and the fast food franchises leading the pack??
Bevo, thanks about the hotpass update. It really impresses me how smooth they make that transition.
I had MRN on because I got so sick of them not mentioning anyone but Chasers (again.) But what little I've seen of Shannon Spake today (and I've defended her in the past) was just awful. She can't seem to put out a sentence without a mistake. Maybe it's just a bad day, but yuck!
ESPN did a dam* poor job of covering the earlier wrecks. I had to turn on the radio to find out who was in it while they spent time showing Truex walking down the road.
I must not comment on "battle of the brands."
I must not comment on "battle of the brands."
I must not comment on "battle of the brands."
I must not comment on "battle of the brands."
I must not comment on "battle of the brands."
I mus---Argh!
01 ran over some debris on the backstretch.
this is great i get Rick Allen, Phil Parsons and Tony Stewart!!!
LOSE THE BOTTOOM TICKER PLEASE!!
GAWD
Sophia said...
who said it's like the end of an ARCA race? LMAO! but those are good races, too
That would be JJ spotter
sophia - Ask and ye shall receive.
Brother Flounder:
Give up. It is the dumbest thing I've heard an announcer say EVER when an exciting finish was coming to a crashing conclusion.
wow....this yellow messes up what could have been a killer finish. still aint over yet tho..
Green White Checker.
ABC has got to be putting holes in the walls with their heads.
uh ho, the dreaded or anticipated green, white, checkered finish.
caution out - how many comm'ls? bets anyone?
why isn't anyone excited over what is happening?!? just a ho hum 'it will be a green white checker...'
Dale & Eliott in "bidness" together eh? Lot's of interesting broadcaster/driver/manufactor/ownerrelationships....
Dale and Elliott used to be teammates...they were pretty close as teammates
oh vomit. my queens aren't electrifying...unless you mean chair.
Y'know, as much as I love NASCAR, I just want to get out of here before Football Night in America starts. This broadcast has been an absolute, unmitigated trainwreck from beginning to end.
At least they're not trying to shoehorn the Chase in here, but DEI should've been a story all day.
I have not recognized Tony all day in that YELLOW car...really throws me
is this a one time event scheme?
I suspect Tony may pull this off, but I'd like to see Casey Mears win. His girl is expecting, but he's too far back for any hope of that. (12th - where it's safe.)
Crap!! DEI is lurking on Stewarts bumper. I may be retracting my Tony statement!
Tony's run the Subway car a few times this year.
Phoenix, here, a couple other tracks they've run it too
sophia...he has had subway a few times this year...
Why no Ray Everham comments...dosen't he run the show at Gillette Everham?
Sophia - yes he runs with the subway scheme a couple races a year only.
Prediction: 15 second interview with the winner, 3-second update on Top 12 a standings, and then they are outta there off the air.
great point about Evernham.
brotherflounder - and you think football night in america is even close to watchable? my God, get a clue.
brotherflounder said
This broadcast has been an absolute, unmitigated trainwreck from beginning to end.
Truer words were rarely spoken about a race...I am getting NASCAR fatigued..but will watch all my Sunday night speed shows. :)
NASCAR hangover tomorrow..
JR didn't finish in 2nd in the Brian Vickers race!
Ray doesn't run the show at GEM anymore. not even close.
Okay, important to mention. Brian Scott messed this up yesterday. On the last lap of the race, coming to the checkers...YELLOW LINE IS FAIR GAME.
You CAN go under that line if you can see the checkers in sight.
NASCAR Set the precidence with the trucks in 2006 and 2007.
Who will remember this?!
Anon at 6:24 - Evernham sold 80% of EMS to Gillette. He's not only a minority owner, he only comes in to the office when he feels like it.
come on tony!
you are SO correct Tracy!
YESSSSS CALLED IT!!!!
Those guys cannot buy a break.
excuse my language but HOLY *#$w*($#*
that MIGHT be the THE THE WORST finish to a race called in history!
LOL! ESPN is all confused! WOW!
forced below the line... win should be legit
What is this, NASCAR? Way to not be consistent.
Why is he winning below the yellow line?
WHAT?
TONY DID WIN!!!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT?!
Thats garbage. I LOVE Tony, but thats GARBAGE.
Regan Smith won this race. Period.
OMG Interesting to see what they say about Regan Smith post race.
someone told the drives ESPN was in hurry up mode and they are trying to prove a point
WTG Tony!
Where was Punch during that finish?
Alright Smoke!
sean said...
LOL! ESPN is all confused! WOW!
to be fair, they weren't the only ones! i can't criticize them for waiting to get a definitive answer from "next door."
Tony is a punk. He forced Smith below the yellow line. Smith won!
Non-tv-related: Absolutely awful call by NASCAR there.
Credits rolling. No interview with Tony, obviously.
GOING OFF THE AIR before tony is interviewed...showing the credits?? This makes me nervous
Oh me either, Red. It certainly sounded awkward though
These guys are still lost.
WTG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YAY TONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
& no emotion from Doc
final grade for coverage from espn/abc if 10 is bad
this was a 101 off the charts bad!!!!!!!@!!!
Johnny Benson made passes at the end of the 2006 and 2007 Truck races at Daytona. There were gripes about his pass and NASCAR STATED:
Last lap, checkered flag: all bets are off.
Menard should be the winner. Tony crowded Smith below the line.
NASCAR still hasn't officially called the race? If ESPN cuts away before they do, or before they at least get some sort of official statement on when they'll call it, that will be the icing on the cake of this crummy broadcast.
WOW! That may have been the biggest NASCAR screwjob I've ever seen. Dale Junior did the same thing a couple years ago and was ruled to have been forced below the yellow line. That seemed obvious to me... unreal.
Shannon Spake has been more terrible than normal today
People people people. calm down. they ALWAYS run credits a little early so they don't have to rush through them when the program actually ends. its normal procedure.
Wow if somebody hass won in the PAST in Ragan's position...why was he cheated out of a win then?
I am totally confused....ridiculous ending to crazy race if this is bending the rules....
JD,
Did we surpass the comment count?
Okay, interview with Tony. Thank goodness.
stricklin I remember that, you're right
What's with the applying the rules selectively??
This is yet another debacle that has me on the verge of leaving nascar ...
looked to me like regan chose to go below....
Nascar officials really left ESPN out on a limb.
Jamie Little makes me numb....somebody at ESPN make it better please.....
If Tony is the "winner", they why couldn't they place Regan Smith??? Would he be anything other than second? I'm already calling BS on the finish, but if Nascar finds a reason to give him some kind of penalty to place him other than second, then my rant couldn't be printed.
Well I guess if it was a chaser forced below the yellow line then it would have been ok. Poor Smith.
This reminds me of other odd wins...Biffle in Kansas last year comes to mind....how does NASCAR keep credibility if so many think Ragan should have won.
I have only been watching since 2004
Wow, they're OUTTA here, aren't they? For ANOTHER TV promo for a TV show ripped from British TV. The Brit series, btw, is old. Already seen it.
JJ comment on scanner that the rumor was that if you can see the flagman yellow line doesn't matter. This could be ugly for a while, poor Regan he looked devestated (sp?) and rightly so
Excuse me, I said "finds a reason", I meant "creates a reason". That call was worse than the phantom debris cautions.
Regan should've won, that was a bad call. Like someone else said, JB did the same thing in a truck race, and they said it was legal then.
Too bad that the confusion ensued after a great race.
It looked like Regan was forced down below the yellow, but I guess NASCAR wanted to let Tony finally get a win at Talladega
Stewart didn't force him down, he maintained his line and Smith went below the line on his own
I guess we have to watch Victory Lane to really see how this is going to come out
Credits on the screen dont always mean the program is over. ALWAYS keep that in mind.
Hey guys,
There is a column up for your comments about this race.
Just refresh your browser or click on the TDP logo at the top of the page.
Thanks for taking the time to stop by.
JD
Below yellow line at Daytona/Talladega OK on last lap: Drivers throughout the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series garage were still talking about last week's three-wide finish at Daytona International Speedway. While they admitted the finish was good for television, most wondered why NASCAR allowed Johnny Benson to drive below the yellow line - Daytona's out of bounds line - to jump from third to second in the final 200 yards. Benson wasn't penalized because "if you can see the checkered flag on the last lap, anything goes," according to NASCAR spokesman Owen Kearns.(Augusta Chronicle)(2-24-2007)
via Jayski
The leader board is still showing Smith as the winner.
ABC in Detroit stayed the whole way!! What a mess at the end. KyBu won in the spring passing below the yellow line & Nascar let it stand. Not good..
Remember the Talladega incident in 03 or 04 when Jr. went inside Kenseth for the lead and went below the yellow line, NASCAR said he was forced down and wasn't penalized. Comptletely inconsistant
By all. It's been real.
I thought Tony gave him plenty of room to get back above the line. I think the problem was that he didn't go back to his spot before he went below the line. Thought that was how it worked, but ESPN certainly wasn't helpful in telling us so I can't be sure!!!!!
Jumping to ESPN 2 for more coverage?
Yep, they cut it off and the WNBA is there for me, so I get no more coverage here.
-Bruce (The Bay Area)
Seems like the American public is split on who really won the race and if NASCAR's call was right or wrong. This week's NASCAR coverage should be interesting.
see everybody at Charlotte
Smith tried to fake Tony to go high. Tony held his line and didn't bite. Smith went below the yellow on his own.
To bad when anyone says anything against other racers we are told we are haters. No Smith lost it all on his own.
Between this page, two scanner passes and a bit of MRN I give the race an A. The coverage from espn c-...sad.
Hey Editor: Congrats on the Comment count!!
"Jumping to ESPN 2 for more coverage?"
Since when does ESPN2 give you immediate post race coverage? please someone tell me.
However, I think ESPNEWS has post-race coverage in a few minutes.
Actually Jo, Stewart did come down and make contact with Smith. Smith went low to avoid wrecking him.
Regardless, it will be interesting if NASCAR makes a distinction between Cup and Truck rulings or if that's an "across the board" stance they have on the yellow line.
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