Sunday, November 9, 2008
In-Progress From Phoenix: Sprint Cup Series on ABC
After hundreds of posts, thousands of comments and millions of page views, this is the next-to-last Sprint Cup Series in-progress race post of 2008 on The Daly Planet.
In terms of NASCAR TV, this has been a very long haul for the ESPN team. While they have gotten most of the publicity from the Sprint Cup Series coverage, the entire ESPN gang has been working the NASCAR circuit since February in Daytona.
Unlike the Fox or TNT production teams who stop by and then leave, ESPN "double-dips" by using Dr. Jerry Punch, Dale Jarrett and Andy Petree on the Nationwide Series for the entire season. Likewise, the ESPN pit reporting team of Shannon Spake, Jamie Little, Dave Burns and Mike Massaro have been prowling the pits for the past nine months.
It will be 3PM Eastern Time when the new leader of the ESPN team, Allen Bestwick, kicks-off the coverage from the Infield Pit Studio. He will be joined by Rusty Wallace and Brad Daugherty. This week, Ray Evernham will also be a member of the infield TV team.
Bestwick has been a workhorse for ESPN this year handling the Nationwide and Sprint Cup infield duties while also developing the brand new one hour NASCAR Now program on Mondays. His frequent flier miles by the end of this season will hopefully earn him a very nice winter vacation.
This weekend the clash in storylines between the racers and The Chasers continues. Mark Martin and Kyle Petty will not be racing in Homestead. Rumors of Joey Logano losing the #20 ride continue. Economic factors are eating at the sport from all sides. Somehow, the Jimmie Johnson vs. Carl Edwards scenario has lost a little luster. The selection of topics for the pre-race show should be a challenge.
Having four voices in the infield studio on a fast track like Phoenix is tough to do, especially when mixed with four pit reporters, three folks in the announce booth and Tim Brewer in the Tech Center. How things sort-out after the green flag falls will be interesting to watch. Any way you slice it, twelve announcers on a NASCAR race is a lot.
Dr. Jerry Punch is two races away from the end of what has seemed to be a very long season. Having Dale Jarrett and Andy Petree in the booth this season has helped, but it is still tough to watch a veteran reporter and nice guy like Punch struggle in the play-by-play role. It certainly has been a learning year for Jarrett, who has contributed quite a bit of the event coverage this season.
NASCAR Now ran a story Sunday morning on the fact that Spake and Little were on the top ten list of the most beautiful people in NASCAR. The challenge for both these young women is to close-out the season without asking any driver, crew chief or owner "how they feel" about any racing topic. Maybe asking some hardcore racing questions might move them up a notch or two for next year. By the way, Kasey Kahne was number one.
PIR offers the ESPN TV Director a wonderful choice of cameras to transfer the experience of the race to viewers at home. The aerial shots and the jib camera on Rattlesnake Hill will serve to set the tone and provide transition shots for everything from commercial breaks to in-race promos.
There are several low angle cameras on this track, including a robo-cam between turns three and four that moves with the field as they race by. PIR is the perfect track to bring TV viewers down low and get the feel of this short-track style racing at track level.
The audio from PIR on both Friday and Saturday was fantastic. Look for the continuation of an outstanding season from the NASCAR Media Group technical staff where the sounds of racing are concerned. Restarts should be exciting as the cars come up to speed.
Unless an extended caution flag comes out, Bestwick and his infield team will probably be heard and not seen once the race begins. It is tough to insert four announcers on-camera and get their comments on even one topic if the race is continuing in the background under green.
Keep an eye out for non-Chasers who fall out of the race to see if they are interviewed. Look for the pit road reporters being more aggressive and climbing pit boxes to talk to crew chiefs. If a big accident happens, watch for interviews with all drivers as they leave the Infield Medical Center.
No doubt Johnson and Edwards will dominate the telecast, but the stories of the race are there and it is up to ABC to tell them to the viewer. This track needs frequent resets of the field along with information about how drivers moved either forward or backwards in the line-up. With passing at a premium, the race off pit road will be crucial all day long. It should be a fun race to watch and the weather is great.
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 608 Newer› Newest»my god is espn awful. talk about debris on johnson's grill to worry viewers...johnson gains half a second on everyone after.
show knaus talking to his pit crew...punch has to ask what he is saying as if there is a problem.
CALL THE RACE
ri88girl,
and 200 decibal noise canceling headsets, and that's if their crew isn't talking to him....... just so you know.
To settle the engine sound thing - when you lap the guy 2 times you can be pretty sure he's got a problem with his engine :)
Good point about the exhaust hadn't thought of that. Don't know what side he passed on.
@ bevo, good point.
My thoughts exactly Bevo, trust me he knows, spotter told him 24 "off the pace" when he passed him the first time
So, if Johnson locks up the championship today will ABC extend their coverage window to cover that or will it be ignored to try and make people think that it is still an open issue?
Ugh, get rid of the dual incar cams. All that does is prove that they hold the wheel at 10 and 2.
JPM and Dinger racing and being shown, wow lets hope it's not a fluke, I've been almost all day with ABC instead of HotPass just to see if it is consistent, it seems to be.
aardvark
Hmm, real debris... Coincidentally there's 50 to go and Nascar wouldn't mind bunching up the field.
Petree is sounding like an active crew chief, LOL. He even sounds worried!
88 Too Funny but are you sure it wasn't armadillo
Might be time to give Dave Burns the rest of the race off...he sounds really bad. Need him back for Homestead.
@ Tracy,
that's what I want man so excitement in the booth. Shades of Mikey and Phil
is espn hoping edwards wins the chase or is it more for ratings? he is the in-car guy for most nationwide and chase races, they played Staind's "Believe In Me" as a bumper to the commercials at that pit stop and Punch almost talks as if he's a cousin or brother of the 99. As he calls it.
Can't even hardly understand burns anymore. I agree JD, lets get him out of there for the rest of the race. Its not good to force those type of problems
My comment to the coverage with the debris, man, if the 1st place driver has debris on his grill, is the leader in the chase, the crew is concerned, and his temps are above 250 which could escalate and hurt him, I think thats worth talking about. Dont be so mad.
ESPN
Dual in car cams are NOT FUN to watch from home...more toys for little boys...sigh
Bevo, always the voice of reason here. :)
I am ready for this to be over.
Jeff Gordon blew up...bummer
That's why they should not cut to the car camera, missed the 3 wide
Now I think Chad can be worried
Holy sh... I really want to see that replay
Oh my! What a mess :(
Darnit, my horse is done. Also, there was a comment made earlier about the drivers having one channel, and can only hear what the crew conveys to them, that is misinformation. Gordon could listen to Jr, Johnson, or Hendrick if he so chooses. They have multi-channel radios in those cars with numerous frequencies.
OMG!!! what a mess!!
holy smokes
That's a new one.... Glad Scott could get out of it.
well, that will get some face time for the digital transition.
Tony Jr. On Speed and Gillliland. Bumpers didn't line up...ya
OK, it's official David G is an idiot. Trying to start his car up when on top of the 84. Good grief.
If Speed has an in-car that points forward and not left, that would be a great perspective to watch. Come to think of it, do any of the cars have the in-car pointing out the windshied?
"He's got a Ford Fusion in his windshield"
The way JP said it was so funny.. he said it so monotone like no big deal.
I wonder if JJ/Knaus should be worried about engine issues since JG is out. Let's see if Doc asks DJ & AP about it again.
I thought you couldn't jack up the back of the COT...I need to see that from another angle...wow.
I actually feel bad for GORDON..amazing his DNF's....sigh
Funny one JD!
Can't say I've ever seen that before
So much for my personal chase.
JD guess we'll never know what the post race show is all about since we are already into that window. Oh well. Guess Desp Hwives will be starting late.
Roger Pensky sending messages to Jimmie about Indy car, must be an inside joke cause it ment nothing to me
tick, tick, tick......
DOT...like i said. Choke experts...
So I'm confused, what does happen if we reach the magic cut off time?
Dot I'm guessing the 84 is in worse shape that the 47 so he should gain some points.
Also, ESPN hasn't shown or even mentioned Jr. much today - guess it's all JJ all the time!
Why was Jeff Gordon's crew able to work on the car during the red flag? In Jeff's most recent interview with ESPN, you could clearly see the crew working on the car in the background.
Since we are under red, there will be a special edition of TWIN on SPEED this Thursday night where most of the Chase contenders will be stopping by to chat.
It will be hosted by Steve Byrnes with Michael Waltrip from Homestead. That will be on Thursday at 8PM Eastern.
The Monday edition will be Steve, Michael and Chad.
ouch, thought ABC was required to keep it?
Oh my I'm being bumped to the deuce. That's interesting
there we go...off to the Deuce in 13 minutes
guess I got my answer
Switching to ESPN2 at 7:30 est woot woot funniest home video time!
For those of you on the east coast. You're SOL.
Sincerely, ESPN.
Even though they are saying the west coast is unchanged, I'll bet they will go with the local news instead.
WOW!! Changing channels!!
OUCH
I like Allens explantion of the switching of networks. He realizes fans are going to be upset. Im interested in the "Not something we want to do, but we have to do"
For America's funniest home videos no less. They are kidding right.
@ David, thanks. Kick a girl when she's down. ;)
bottom of the hour to espn2. heard that on hotpass during the commerical break.
Good explanation by AB. It still sucks to change to E$PN especially for those without cable.
yay being on the west coast!
So, they are breaking off the Eastern/Central coverage so the ABC Entertainment shows can start.
Meanwhile, they are keeping the Mountain and Pacific viewers on the broadcast feed.
The only drawback is the non cable-TV users in the East/Central time zones.
I say good thing he ended up on Scott Speed's hood, he might be a little different, but he has a great attitude.
I love Scott Speed. That is all.
Dot i said it earlier! lol
I dont mean it personally cuz im watching that battle too. I've just learned that they tend to fall apart late. Happened to AJ a bunch midseason when I was watching his progress
This is the ABC networks fault for scheduling a new episode of a TV show right after the race instead of local or national news.
I hate to say I told you so JD but unfortunately I have to. THIS IS COMPLETELY INEXCUSABLE! ESPN MUST GO!!
Is NASCAR watching this?
so have they put up a list of those involved yet, or are we still hearing about the "Spectacular and Fiery crash" from the ESPN interview?
It would be nice to see the complete list. Did I miss it? Did I blink?
How can ESPN interrupt the 2008 world series of poker? How dare they????
FOX hasn't done this before have they? I know they've run into their primetime coverage before
How about that, Carl Edwards answered my wind question.
Scott Speed is funny. "Bone out" the window? What does that mean?
WOW being bounced to espu2 - wonderful.
And todays "coverage" was junk. Chad in full screen under green, the broadcast today at times has been decent, then it just as quickly has tanked.
I hope NASCAR breaks this contract & goes elsewhere. This has been a mess.
scott speed has a different personality, but i dont get the indication he is here genuinely. tony stewart spoke on it on TSL a few weeks back.
if someone hung an F1 ride in front of Scott, he'd bail.
@ David, no offense taken. And, I did read you earlier.
@ JD, thanks for the TWIN info on Thursday. I'm excited.
I'm hearing on the 48 radio that the 70 trailed oil all the way around the track. That will extend the cleanup alot!
What this proves is that ABC/ESPN doesn't have control of its affiliates in the same way that CBS does.
On CBS, when golf and NFL football run long, the entire prime time lineup gets bounced back in time and the 11 p.m. local news never goes on at 11.
Anyone who ever watches CBS sports has heard Dick Enberg or Jim Nantz say "For those of you expecting to see 60 Minutes, this is the NFL on CBS, 60 Minutes will air in its entirety following the conclusion of today's game."
Says something about how the NFL contract compares to the NASCAR contract too.
FOX hasn't done this before have they? I know they've run into their primetime coverage before
No. FOX Is the network that competely missed the start of the race at the Phoenix Spring race. :)
If football runs over, everything gets shoved back. Not Nascar, evidently.
ESPN wonders why they run into these problems in the east coast. Maybe next year they won't schedule a race to begin in the late afternoon and expect it to end by 7:30.
I agree with stricklinfan. Glad I'm watching this live and not coming home to see the Tivo of ABC.
Well, I don't care what the excuse, ABC is dropping the ball on this but sadly, it IS sweeps time.
Ugh...I feel for folks w/o cable ...this is NOT GOOD for the SPORT at all, though JD.
TOTAL lack of respect imo. For what...home videos?? What a bunch of rubbish...SHOULD STARTED the race EARLIER NASCAR........
sigh
Another Heidi moment but you got a warning...unless you are TAPING THE RACE!
oh yeah....for BASEBALL!
i remember now. but other then that issue, i don't recall them ever bumping networks prior to that single time they missed the start of the race.
Nothing is tougher for over-the-air network TV that dealing with sports that run long. That is the advantage of cable.
alex, I really think that is the key issue. We had lots of posters today who wished early on that the race had started at a much earlier hour.
This better be the final straw that breaks the camel's back. ABC leaving the next-to-last race of the Chase with under 40 laps to go while the cars are ON THE TRACK. It's not like it's raining and the race won't restart for a couple hours. The race is just minutes away from ending! Are you kidding me?
The buyout better happen now, there is no longer any excuse to keep ESPN/ABC around. This is the most inexcusable act any NASCAR TV network has ever committed. Period.
In LV, they scheduled paid programming after the race. Why just here and not in midwest & east?
Im ok with Espn, get rid of ABC!!!
They really are dropping the ball tonight. This is the 2nd to last race in the chase and they are going off the air?! Maybe NASCAR should find a network that actually cares about showing each race in its entirity on the network it starts on.
Is it seriously AFV that the race is being dumped for?
Only thing I can think of is if Funniest Videos is produced by the same people who own "Dancing with the Stars" and it is built into that contract.
@david. Scott chats with Chocolate and Post every week and he seems genuine to me. Tony is upset with scott because scott thought that it would be funny to dress as a hick in alabama? I love tony but it is a bit ironic given his own checkered past in this area....
some weeks ago, when I tuned in to espn to watch the race, a football game was on BUT was finishing up and I thought, COOL, we get to see the pre-race. NOT.
After the game ended, they took us to another game that ran over and eliminated the pre-race show.
SO much for ending timely... ESPN bounced right on over to another game that did run over.
ESPN has never had NASCAR on their front burner when anything else is competing. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to see it cut into with a paper-rock-scissors tournament.
(yes, they have them!)
America's Funniest Videos - is ABC nuts taking the race off and putting that on?
WHOA WTF?!?!?!
im in AZ and we got bumped too!
When a football game runs long, the Nationwide race is shuffled to Classic sometimes. The never move a game because the race is about the start. Isn't there a provision in the Nascar TV contract that the cup series cannot be channel shifted? I guess not.
I find it hard to believe that Nascar would overlook that possibility in creating the contract, or can't put their foot down and make FOX/TNT/ESPN/ABC do it. They should be embarrased.
Wonder what HotPass will do for the national feed... find out in two minutes :)
Can you just picture all the Sports bars being told to change the channel.
This has nothing to do with Espn, its ALL ABCs decision. Booooo
Who the hello watches those lame "staged" sometimes cruel "Funniest video shows anyway"
What a disappointment...my oh my.
I know it's a tough call JD but starting an HOUR earlier could've fixed this issue.
dot,
Broadcast networks typically run two feeds.
One serves the East/Central time zones and a second serves the Mountain/Pacific.
So, when it is 7:30PM and time for the pre-sold and contractually obligated entertainment shows on ABC in the East, it is only 4:40PM in the West and NASCAR has plenty of time left.
Does that make sense?
Had the race started earlier I would have gotten to see it all in 1 place & then gone on with my day. Instead I had to creatively schedule so I could watch. If not for the rain delay I would have missed quite a bit.
Wasn't it the networks that dictated the start times in this contract?
Well that puts a damper on a good effort NFL games run over and shows get pushed back.
ok...now i have the race on TWO networks!
Will there be no commercials on 2?
You got to be kidding me, dumping the cup race for Americas funniest home videos that has been in reruns for 10 years?
I don't care who you are thats funny right there.
I could understand if it was a movie or some special show, but a 10 year old rerun LOL.
Oh and good job missing the restart right there.
Yep! HotPass National feed has Americas Funniest
Anyone on the West Coast lose the race on ABC?
Did we just miss the green flag?
Bevo, that is hilarious.
I lost coverage for a few minutes, they pitched the ABC primetime lineup and did a suppose a quick weather recap from the local affil.
well my ABC affiliate decided to switch to AFV...
Now it just has the HotPass logo with sound from AFV
I lost the coverage for a few laps on KGTV san diego and when the coverage came back it was not in HD. What gives??
http://www.wdio.com/
if anyone wants to help me complain
camera work falling off....bumper cam excess and tight shows....reed s wrecks...
Let's face it NASCAR never even THOUGHT of the overly stuffed ESPN schedule for NASCAR...they took the money and ran. :(
What David said.. we got pitched for upcoming program, but we came in about a 1/2 lap late.
We still have coverage. (Nor CA, Bay Area, Comcast)
Here in the Reno area, the local station went to AFV 2.5 hrs early! Also Directv also cut the feed because the were using ABC New York.
Where are you phat?
Anyone think the way this was set up the folks at the affiliates out west that aren't O & O had to manually switch a feed over?
I bet Bob Saget just switched to ESPN2.
So, DirecTV only has the driver channels but no national feed?
Station ID is WDIO out of Duluth, Minnesota
My HotPass network coverage is gone
Lost the driver audio on National feed too. Not good HotPass, someone needs to wake up there.
I can't imagine why the ratings start falling when TNT and then ESPN/ABC take over.
This network split and switch was poorly executed.
ok here's what I don't get about all this. Last week AFV (usually an hour long show) was joined IN PROGRESS following post race at Texas. It was scheduled as the same tonight to be joined for the second half hr at 7:30. So with that already being the case, why not keep the race, as it looks like it'll finish by 8pm EST, when the first real uninterrupted prime time programming would begin? This makes no sense the 7:30 cut
Anyone tell me what happened to Sterling Marlin's car?
now that's some hot rod right there!
Taking bets on whether we get a post race or poker......pun intended;)
Richard,
It may just raise attendance at the tracks. People have to see the race one way or another.
well... I just found out on a message board that they switched to ESPN2.... lovely, just lovely
I guess ABC feels like "America's Funniest Home Videos" is more compelling TV than NASCAR. With the COT, I guess they're right.
I haven't heard "free pass" cars either they are falling down on that today. Guess Matt got it last yellow.
Completely inexcusable.
I wonder if they'll try to get out of there at the top of the hour, or do a decent post-race show. I wouldn't put it past them to interview JJ, Carl, and one or two other guys, then jump ship.
@ JD, yes it does. But why don't all feeds account for overtime?
DirectTV has both the ESPN2 feed and the audio now.
Please, the racing this season has been great which makes the crap coverage all the more tragic...
hey...debris. its legit.
I am SHOCKED HOTPASS bailed...don't you guys pay big bucks for that special viewing?????
Wheels falling off the NASCAR train...
BTW for anyone that says this mess is all ESPN/ABC's fault, consider this, Eagles/Giants coverage for Sunday Night Football has been running on NBC since 7pm EST. This LIVE event affects all time zones equally. So what situation would we be in if NBC still had coverage. Probably watching on CNBC, a channel many didn't realize existed prior to the last few races of the NBC coverage when post race shows conflicted with sunday night football.
I also pose this question, what happens if it rains in Miami next week? Could a champion be crowned NOT on network Television? A very real possibility it seems.
Isn't ABC the Mickey Mouse network?
This is completely inexcusable. The only race I have almost fully watched, and I don't watch because of ESPN/ABC, and they pull a stunt like this. I would imagine their NASCAR contract is worth a heck of a lot more than whatever it is they make off of AFV. Very very very poor choice by whoever decided to do that switch and when I find out who is responsible for this they shall receive a very stern email.
JD,
Driver channels are OK, the box for the national feed is OK (shows ESPN@ logo) but the channel with the National feed just has a log with AFV audio and no driver audio when you choose that option
The Homestead race isn't scheduled to start till about the same time as this race, and it's longer. What if that race runs long? Will ABC bump the awarding of the championship over to a limited-access cable network, too? Talk about egg in the face, big time, if that happens!
Anon 7:39-
I would say this IS ABC/ESPN's fault, because they determine what airs on their network. If the NFL followed Nascar, then it wouldn't bother me as much, but instead, AFHV is a program that can be time shifted towards the 11:00 news.
the NBC show right now is Football Night in America though, NOT the official game. Therefore I imagine they would stay up to a certain point. NASCAR has pushed their start times for other shows/networks/sports before...its time others returned the favor.
Remember also, people with NASCAR were critical of NASCAR when this TV deal was signed before a race ever got aired because NASCAR did get lowballed in many's eyes with the new TV deal.
Could I just say how utterly appalled I am at this situation?
Here in Pittsburgh we have local news
KOLO Reno finally switched back to the race. It's in SD vice HD.
Now you knowe how IRL fans feel. Big race, championship on the line, ha! we are switching networks. If you are recording the race, tough lugnuts. Ha Ha Ha. I have seen this before multiple times. Why didn't ABC just switch to Hedi? Or maybe have a shorter prerace show?
BTW
The in car cameras transmit to a loop that goes all the way around the track. When Broadcast Sports went to HD, they alos went to the loop, there fore eliminating the need for a chopper for the microwave bounce. This technology is now used in all three major NASCAR series.
I hate it for the DVR / VCR users of the world who are rushing home to watch their program later tonight.
And AFV takes precedence is a fascination to me that goes beyond all logic or sense.
I need an adult beverage.
OK, all is back to normal on HotPass nation feed channel SD
But Brian France says all is well and rules will not change in the sport due to bad economy.
He is a clueless twit.
Has he EVER watch a race from home?
TOO MUCH BUMPER CAMS or is it just me??? what happened to the great camera work earlier..that director go to dinner???
espn network feed is now on the hotpass network channel
Here in Hawaii, we had AFV for a couple minutes on the HD feed (keep in mind its only 2:45 here), and then got switched to the race which is in Standard Def. The SD feed kept the racing the entire way. I've just switched to ESPN2 to watch it in High Def
Josh
Hilo, HI
HotPass network coverage is back
They haven't showed Blaney much but it looks like he has Alan Kulwicki's old Hooter paint scheme. Kinda fitting for Phoenix.
Larry Mc not a fan of Mikey right now :)
The race is still in SD, KGTV San Diego lost the HD feed!! I can't believe this.
Larry Mc-
That's why he's 4 for 400 something in his career
:)
On Blaney, its not a AK tribute scheme or anything of that nature. its simply the Bad Boy Mowers scheme that was used earlier in the year when the #27 attempted a couple races
I took off my Tony jacket too soon. :(
Thanks AP! Don't talk about Homestead until we get out of Phoenix. After all, there is a race going on.
anyone ever watch playoff games for other sports?
commercials during play? No way!
For Nascar, we change the network.
We have Petree sounding like an idiot saying Johnson does HAVE to start the race next weekend.
Petree downgraded to a C+
Hahaha laugh about the wreck booth,. Dont explain what happened just laugh about it.
wow, Smoke and co. having a disagreement on the radio
commercial free, a silent mia culpa?
Well, I guess I owe you all a beer. No win for Carl today.
OK, I just got home, couldn't watch the race after the first 100 laps. I turn on the TV to see the end, and it's NOT on ABC anymore. What in the sam heck happened????????
Why did they punt it off ABC for Funniest Home Videos?????? There's no excuse for this switching. What about those who don't get cable and have ESPN2????
good lord i could announce the race and give you better coverage.
I'm done watching any races on ESPN/ABC. I have avoided them like the plague this year and this merely confirms why.
I will not turn on any coverage of the Miami race as I will rely upon TrackPass for any information. They have disrespected myself and other NASCAR fans far too many times over the past two years. I'm sure they could careless that they just lost a fan of 17 years, but perhaps I will not be the only one to go.
DAvid, what was Tony's disagreement about? We could see him lifting his hands off the wheel several times.
Stop giving Jimmie the title he DOESN'T have it yet and I'm afraid they are going to jinx him.
david
what is smoke saying?
:(
Pit command chose to give us silence here. Censorship in action.
Nothing but silence from 20 team. then bit & byte of words, guess Tony was swearing- would be nice if big brother would butt out.
dot I,ll take a draft
AJ feels bad..but I think that was just some hard racing there
Got to admit it's been an interesting race today!
AJ was crowded.
There goes that censorship for the extra coverage paid for. Silly.
the 20 team is fine now - they told tony is was the 10 car that got into the 17
i think the frustration of the last 2 or so months is finally getting the best of them.
the car hasn't been great all day and when they got turned someone said something about getting wrecked and tony responded with a smart*** remark and i believe zippy went off on him for a brief rant. it was choppy so i didnt get some of it.
might hear something tomorrow on TSL.
EOLL for Tony...PO'ed even more.
nevermind by tony, he realized why he got the penalty...pitted early for tires
Bob Varsha, David Hobbs, & Steve Matchett could give better coverage and they would be in a studio in Charlotte calling the race!
JD, what excuse does ABC have in getting rid of the race and putting it on ESPN2? I just don't get this.
Come on Jerry, bring it home!!
All is not lost for Marcos. I'll have to look up the OPs later.
wow lame call there, that was a TV move. Had they gone green on scheduled, it would have been 2 to go IN RACE, allowing the potential for another GWC.e By adding the extra yellow lap for (cars not lined up right, baloney) now it's guaranteed to end so ESPN2 can run off at 8EST... wow pathetic and punch didn't get the memo there's 2 to go, this is NOT final lap argh
I think one of the reasons we hear so much basic, annoying info is who they think they are marketing or broadcasting to and keeping the uninformed up to speed.
It's covering the "basics". If coverage were to talk like everyone is a seasoned expert, it would lose people who tune in that aren't that familiar with the sport.
Aggg... that hurt to say. Now,
This sucks... yes.
I believe JGR has their communications edited via JGR. its not NASCAR or a network that edits their stuff.
Also i think for a moment they switched channels, someone said something about channel 6
I sure hope they stay for the fights. This could put the Truck race to shame.
Ambrose 18th !!!! That should move him into the top 35, at least for the next race.
Nice of Kenseth to take a car out that had nothing to do with his accident
Amen JD
I do believe they were giving us a full checker flag at the line finish
Think VL will MENTION changing stations and then all the action continued.....
There is a new post up for your comments on the ABC/ESPN2 coverage of the Sprint Cup Series race from Phoenix.
We need your comments, come on over!
JD
Kurt Busch is being very, very nice.
What a wild race!
@Bevo,
AJ got loose and caused the accident with the 17 and 20. Said he was really sorry but the 17 went for instant payback.
dyslexia at it's best ,that's finish line
Dave is a trooper.
I feel sorry for Dave B. He looks like he has a fever although I'd rather have him in VL than the twins!
norcalfan-
I was talking about Montoya. When he hit AJ it spun him into Montoya.
VLANE is on SPEED
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