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Things change in a hurry in TV land, so this Monday is going to feature two TV networks scrambling all day long. SPEED is first with a one hour edition of RaceDay at 11AM ET. This will serve as the pre-race show, since NASCAR starts all rain delayed races as close to the top of the hour as possible.
That means when the NASCAR on Fox gang comes on the air at 12PM, they will be able to say hello and then the cars will hit the track. The full Fox crew returns led by Mike Joy in the announce booth with Darrell Waltrip and Larry McReynolds.
The Hollywood Hotel may or may not be back, but my guess is Chris Myers and Jeff Hammond should be on-board as usual. Myers dropped his comedy act on Sunday and led the TV team through some great discussions of NASCAR topics in the news. It was an eye-opener for those fans who argue that he is most effective in his assigned role as the class clown.
LMS has taken a lot of water and that normally means that the grassy area inside the frontstretch dogleg will be very damaging to the COT cars should they spin into it. We may well see careful racing because NASCAR is obligated to run the full 600 mile distance unless weather shortens the event after halfway.
No doubt there are some tired TV crew members on both the SPEED and Fox teams. Once the race is over, SPEED has some decisions to make. Originally scheduled for 8PM but taped in the early afternoon is This Week in NASCAR. Fox pit reporter Steve Byrnes is the host, with drivers Michael Waltrip and Marcos Ambrose as the panelists this week.
Also on tap is the Victory Lane show where host John Roberts interviews the winning driver and crew chief with Jimmy Spencer and Kenny Wallace. That program was scheduled for 11PM on Sunday and is not TBA in terms of air times. Perhaps, SPEED may be forced to put Victory Lane into the TWIN spot this week and just move on.
Fox is a broadcast TV network, not a cable outfit like SPEED. Most probably, the decision to show cartoons as standby programming during the rain delay and not NASCAR programming was driven by that issue. Some wonderful programs like Behind the Headsets and the SPEED broadcast of the All-Star race would have fit the bill, but the Fox local stations are used to cartoons in that timeslot. As previously mentioned, some West Cost viewers got to watch infomercials for two hours.
Monday is a new day and optimism is high that the race will be run. This post will serve to host your comments on the Fox broadcast of the rain-delayed Coca-Cola 600 and the RaceDay pre-race show. To add your TV-related opinion, just click on the comments button below.
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Nascar thank you for that caution. Being a 30yr vet it brought tears to me. Thank you for that moment for those who are not here today
Can we get 28 laps of caution before the rain.
Nascar thank you for that caution. Being a 30yr vet it brought tears to me. Thank you for that moment for those who are not here today
I think several cars with incar cameras had flags I saw one in Mikeys too
Tony didn't say how he knew, but Darien said now I know why you asked for that flag in the car and Tony said yep that was why.
saw one in the 88
Please pour before they get to 200 so we see the whole race
@Dot- I imagine it just slipped everyone's mind with all of the chaos trying to get the race going. He has a lot of stuff to deal with. It was the proper thing to do and I think we should all cut them some slack for this. Remember what the day is for.
Has anyone at Fox even noticed what happened to Brian Vickers on that last stop? It's bad enough that the lack of a triple-pit didn't let us see the leader's entire stop to catch the problem live, but to me that's a major development in this race that has gone virtually unnoticed.
I love all of the wonderful moments of the broadcast honoring our Military members. This is always an emotional weekend.
Was it just me, or were there sprinkles on the lense?
The race coverage has sucked so far. Just end it and put us out of our misery. My radio affiliate doesn't have the race on either.
sprint to halfway, rain...done.
@ Lou and all our TDP veterans:
many, many thanks, my friend. we are honored by your service on our behalf and we will never forget what your and your brethern have sacrficed for us.
we are a better people because of men and women like you.
thank you.
could be they wanted it so if they win the race..
I expect FOX to throw the race on SPEED, once or IF it restarts.
This rain will last a while
anon@3:13: word is that nascar handed flags to each car before the race without telling them why. not sure if that's the same as the one tony held up in that in-car shot.
Another red flag, too bad the charger/battery on the drill is shot or we could finish that little project. Bummer (I think)
@ bevo, I concede.
SDDD wins in the rain.
Down they come on pit road.
Red flag again!
Ooh, brief in-car of David :)
im with someone else, if it rains now im for it. I wanna see 600 miles, not 300
So it is no longer the Aaron's Lucky Dog free pass?
Ok...I know I will feel like a dumb bunny when I get the answer but who is "Hoots"?????
@ lou
I second all Red said re: your service.
just a little bit of dampness. Watch - it'll rain 2 inches.
If NASCAR would have just thrown the green flag instead of waiting for rain, they would have gotten to halfway.
Carl Edwards on the radio says turns 1-2 are soaked, 3-4 just a little dampness.
FOX is really trying to stuff alot of network commercials in before they say good bye.
According to Mulhern, if they can't get this in today, they won't even try for tomorrow. They'd come back on July 19.
Hoots= Cup Series Race Director
Anyone else not wanting to see the new Land of the Lost movie?
Watched a bit of the marathon of the old show on Sci-Fi during the early delay... what horrid special effects back then!
It still bugs me that they refuse to show the weather radar.
Lazy FOX production once again.
Ha... love that UPS commercial! David yelling... funny. :) The behind the scenes video of it is good too.
I guess Taco Bell buys a lot of Monday commercials. Don't recall them on NASCAR broadcasts
Cokes! Still would like one!
hotaru-raganbaby_6 said...
"Anyone else not wanting to see the new Land of the Lost movie?
Watched a bit of the marathon of the old show on Sci-Fi during the early delay... what horrid special effects back then."
hey, hey, there, young 'un! those were state of the art effects back in the day!
Haha, brief red flag .... plenty of yellow dots on the radar moving toward the track.
And now the idiot director wants blue sky shots. What a bunch of liars.
Yeah, but it's still funny to see.
Another wait out for rain, I'm 'bout to turn it off for good.
@David
Thanks to Hoots answer.
Kasey is talking of vortex theory. I wish they had stayed out.
i suspect dale is so fed up with that piece of junk car that he's taking any chance he can to climb out, if only for a red flag!
@Dot- Sorry, just read my comment and it doesn't read the way I meant it to. I didn't mean for it to come across as argumentative, just saying that listening to him on the officials channel he was very apologetic about the last-minute nature of it. He sounded like he lost track of what time it was. He was really hard on himself for it. Kept on mentioning how important stopping, turning off the engines and standing at attention was. He repeatedly thanked everyone for their understanding.
they are 20 laps away, they have to wait this out, they won't reschedule this for another day..
although given that this is a major race for them, they should try to get it to the 600 miles..
and if they do it on antoher day it should be like baseball, start it over from the beginning
Does any of the hardcore fans really care 'bout a bunch of parts? I don't!
I do...
Meyers looks lost though
I do, too.
@Sophia- He's in charge of everything for the race. If you ever get a chance listen to him, he can be very blunt when he talks to everyone :)
@ bevo, we're good :).
Just asking. My opinions on certain broadcast elements may be a bit non-mainstream.
hotaru-raganbaby_6, given your statements that you were "flipping around," and "bored," maybe you're not the target audience here.
Hammond just said they'll get the race in yet today....that that won't be a problem.
I guess the parts information is good for a newbie with no mechanical background. Many of us knew this decades ago.
I keep meaning to try and figure out if I'm related to Hoots. That's my mother's maiden name, and it's not a real common name.
Not that it really matters if we are or are not. Just interesting.
anon 3:31- I have been watching this sport for a long time. Not one of those who agrees with what is presented all the time.
No Race coverage in San Antonio, Texas. I moved here from Charlotte, NC four years ago and always look forward to seeing this race. I know that this is not a major market for NASCAR, but you've got to be kidding; I can't believe that Christina's Court, Judge Alex and Divorce Court are more popular. Boo!!! Hiss!!! Shame on You Fox SA!
Semi-OT: What happens to Nascar Now at 5pm?
What driver choked to death?
wonder what that was all about with tony and gilliland just then? hmmmmm.
JD--Wasn't this event a "must-carry" for Fox affils?
The King is back in the bedroom. Was funny though.
red- that was Reutimann, not Gilliland.
Oh man, I thought we were rid of the King.....
Red, wasn't that Reut?
It is a must carry, but there has to be a off-time window. I would guess that is either 5 ot 6PM ET.
Per Officials channel - very close to dry. Want drivers to get ready.
I think red had his Davids confused.
It was Tony and Reut. Tony passed him pretty close earlier and Reut bumped him afterwards. Tony was pissed that it was way too early in the race for bumping, etc... Looks like they talked it out b/c they both had smiles on thier faces when they walked away.
Much funnier BK commercial instead of that sponge bob square one.
House and Bones tonight for Fox.
h-rb6 and vicky: yep, my mistake. i had been reviewing the leaderboard and standings and must have had gillie in my brain.
JD they are reruns. They arent must see's
Smoke can dish it, but can't take it
Let's hope we can get someone other that SDDD leading b4 halfway case it rains again.
Billy Badbutt. Too funny.
Now that was great. Matty did that very well...
HAHAHAHAH
Tony talked about this on his radio show last year. He likes David Reutimann but he does say Reuti runs too hard when his car isnt very good
JD...Tony and Matt work really well together, they did that radio show for 2 years
surprised to see SMOKE sound off as an owner.
Indeed, he can't take it...sigh..even if he is right...I still remember his "bump drafting is gonna kill somebody at DAYTONA" and he punted Kenseth into the middle field.
I like Tony but sheesh..Karma
I believe Tony's biggest problem was the crewmember getting his mouth going.
hey now! finally catching up on the 83.
thanks for joining us, fox. too bad you still haven't told us what happened!?!
Reutimann seems to be doing just fine without Tony's advice.
Then again, Tony hasn't always followed it himself.
David, makes no difference. The sports department does not run the network, this is not cable.
That has been the biggest problem with the new contract. You can see that some Fox stations have already left the broadcast.
This event is costing the local stations dearly because they buy and sell their own shows during the local dayparts.
If I had it to do, I would have moved this to SPEED. Especially with the forecast for rain.
Billy Badbutt - hilarious!
After that happened on the track earlier, Tony told his spotter to go tell Reut to remind him of the long race and then said he really likes the kid a lot but he needs to just remember the long race - so I think Tony had good intentions by talking to Reut.
@red
see folks still think you think & write like a man.:)
Ok I muted this annoying commercial earlier..just caught it was BK..man that character is creepy.
have to do some work, now i'll have to sync up the tivo to the tdp blog as i watch it... who would have thought it would come to that
Ah. Well they need to make a decision then because if this runs its entire distance its gonna run into east coast prime time. Either get a simulcast on SPEED going now or make a decision across the board.
so, do you suppose justin ailligator really has an agent already?
Was the push truck behind the 48 again on pit road?
I've never really liked Justin... but it leaves me wondering why didn't they go with Stremme?
David Ragan on-board again! :)
Anon
thanks for the TS insight..helps explain things...Indeed the bald guy must have really wised off...I know it's a long day and all but as much as I like tony and I do, ya gotta admit he has been a hypocrit at times.
Rain is coming REALLY soon, the question is if it will be before or after half-way.
There should be some serious racing going on right now.
Dot, yes it was..
20 lap shootout.
Chad hoping the tryptofan (sp) doesn't kick in from Jimmie's turkey sandwich, too funny
red,
Would you agree that we would have never had the problem with not knowing about the 83's pit stop if the production truck had just made the very elementary decision to show the leader's pit stop in its entirety via the triple-pit split? This one-box with 3-4 second snippets of various pit stops is terribly inadequate and hopefully the 83 incident will finally open their eyes.
Dot, once the starter is broken, it's broken.
Lots and lots of empty seats in the corners. Maybe they've already gone home to watch the race on tv.
Vicky
You ever sit in an aluminum seat at a track in the rain? It's miserable when the sun comes out.
boyd, they dont have aluminum bleacher type seats at LMS. They are stadium style seating
David,
My bad. At TMS they are aluminum, and hard.
Thanks JD. Not mechanically inclined.
They should talk about that with the cut away car.
strick: i'm already on that band wagon with you! i detest the 1-box pit stop nonsense. triple-box pit stops are the only intelligent way to handle it and i cannot fathom why fox refuses to use it.
yeah, i know, jd: e --- g --- o. pathetic.
there's no reason to not have used some of the endless time they had in the red flag to explain what happened to the 83 -- none at all. that was a very big miss by the truck. very big.
boyd, write Bruton and Gossage a letter...bet they fix it in a hurry lol
And he's STILL out front!
Boy I'm hating this. At least David's moved up a bit... whoo, 'nother brief on board!
Wrong Busch with a vibration. Dang it.
Dot- Thinking the same thing here.
Any one remember when Kurt was the bad Busch.
They get another rain shower before lap 200, I would think they'd run under caution until that lap to say they've made it to halfway.
boyd said...
Any one remember when Kurt was the bad Busch.
(shooting my hand into the air)
i do! i do!
and so does jimmy spencer . . .
Yeah, Kurt was a bit of a brat... but he still had his nice side. Exactly why he used to be my no 1.
@ Boyd, yes, I do. You'd think SDDD would've learned a lesson.
I have to comment on stewart's interview. He didn't want reutimann to race hard with him, but he raced hard with reut...Must not race with the great stewart. Why did stewart race so hard at that point if it was wrong? I thought this was called auto racing, not "let the great one through".
Any one remember when Kurt was the bad Busch.
Yes, but then he grew up.
Boyd, guess it would definitely be more comfortable going home and watching the race sitting in their own lazyboys.
Annon, perhaps thats why the crew guy kissed the ground tony walked on?
It's an official race now!
red,
This Fox pit road coverage issue reminds me of Fox's scoring crawl issue last year. We called and called for Fox to dump the 1997 outdated scoring crawl technology and adopt the ESPN real-time GPS scoring crawl. When Fox finally decided the address the issue they couldn't stomach adopting ESPN's method, they had to instead roll out a new 1-10, 1-10, 1-43, 1-10, 1-10, 1-43 outdated information crawl as their attempt to provide "accurate" scoring information.
You just hope they'll come around to convention at some point with pit road and the finish line like they did with the crawl, in the meantime it's just frustrating to watch Fox's production truck's continued pursuit of being inadequate just for the sake of being different from everyone else.
How 'bout Joey in fifth!
David on the Perfomance commerc. Cute!
To expand on Anons 3:57 comment. Weren't they all racing hard knowing the race could be over at halfway?
Re: burrito, 88cents before tax. What state doesn't have tax?
If JP were calling the race he'd be saying that Vickers is sailing through the corners to get up front.
Dot, here in Houston, food in a restaurant incurs tax, but food in grocery stores doesn't.
Judge Judy and shows like that are big money for local affiliates. Can't blame them for making the decisions they do.
Fox should have picked SPEED for today's race.
stricklinfan: what i can't get my head wrapped around is the "why" of it all. i wonder if the production team watches full replays of the entire race on mondays. i mean, the best way to learn is to review one's performance and watching the full replay could provide insight, especially if partnered with comments pulled from various blogs from during the race.
then again, if you have david hill saying "tough!" to the fans, why expect there would be a desire to improve or think about new ways to handle a race broadcast? the attitude comes from the top and it is very clearly not an attitude of professionalism, in my opinion.
but, even tho' my head hurts from banging it against this particular wall, i'll keep on b/c someday, someone might just say "hey! i just had a GREAT idea for this week's race . . . "
i can hope, can't i?
Interesting approach....running national commercials after the local break has been completed. Noticed that a couple of times today.
SDDD... never thought he'd ruin MONDAY for me.
I think Tony meant that David's car wasn't there are was overdriving it. Run at the level of your car at that part of the race. If your car is 10th or worse don't drive like you are going for the win.
Far more viewers get Fox (like, all of them) than SPEED.
Hence, the race is on Fox.
Hoots keeps checking with turn 1 and 3 every minute to see if they're gretting any rain
@ VickyD, thanks. I don't keep track of what I pay tax on. I just assume everything is taxable. If it isn't, it will be after our (NV) govt session is over.
Drat, David's moving backwards again.
Yeah, everyone can get Fox, but as we see, that doesn't mean the affiliate will carry the race.
"vickers was actually leading the race until we had that break for the rain"
and THEN what happened? still waiting on that information from ANYone right now! anyone?
@Jimbaca- well put.
Yeah, everyone can get Fox, but as we see, that doesn't mean the affiliate will carry the race.But they are supposed to be able to see it. The network mandated that locals carry this race.
When I was in TV, not doing so meant trouble for the station.
SDDD bobbles... Kasey catches up. Nice.
24 telling officials about rain in turn 2
This could be the end of the race.
Free pass 47
Let's hope not... SDDD winning will ruin the rest of the day.
Could be a fast one, pace car says just a light drizzle on the windshield in 2
Let's hope we get the same dillegence from NASCAR to get the race back going now that they have the option to pull the plug. It sure would be sad to see a quick trigger finger now.
Marcos is the LD.
How much rain is there? How much is coming? Notice I have to ask the Planeteers? FOX won't tell us.
Normal stops... not over yet.
Red,
According to PRN, Brian's crew had trouble with the left rear.
Carl out first! Yes! :)
It's not that everyone can get it, but that free over the air TV still has much bigger ad revenue.
SPEED is equal to ESPN and ESPN2 in homes, but limited to the cable universe.
As viewers may know, other NASCAR races have shifted to SPEED for a variety of reasons since the new TV contract began.
This includes races from both cable and broadcast TV networks.
Always fun in TV land.
@ strick, too funny and so true.
be nice to see a little radar...
OK I need an adult beverage
My same station that previously didn't air "must carry" rain delayed races, is doing it again. No "big trouble" for them.
It's not that everyone can get it, but that free over the air TV still has much bigger ad revenue.
the fact that everyone can get it is exactly why free TV has higher revenue, JD.
You know that!
thanks, greenmeansgo! it's just so silly to have that sort of information left out, especially when it involved the leader at the time!
another great coke commercial. their ad guys do a smart, interesting job on a consistent basis.
No "big trouble" for them...that YOU know of.
it better rain like heck right now, c'mon reut!
Junior in 40th at LMS. Never thought I would live to see that day. Be some headlines this week.
That was frightening even in slo mo! Glad that young man is OK!
I don't like Reuti, not that I would rather SDDD win... but just not a fan of his, never have.
That pit man should get the Goodys award
Daly Planet Editor said...
Junior in 40th at LMS. Never thought I would live to see that day. Be some headlines this week.
jd: trouble continues to brew in jr nation. i suspect this will be the tipping point.
is it just me or does addington remind anyone else of boomhauer on king of the hill? sometimes, i flash back to wah-wurd burton when i listen to addington.
Back in the 1990s, Fox made its name and picked up bigtime affiliates buying sports contracts - NFL, baseball, then Nascar and the college football bowl games. There were CBS affiliates that switched to Fox simply because they wanted to keep carrying the NFL.
While they will switch to SPEED or FX when they need to, I think they have a different view of the relative role of sports in their network than the others might.
Yep, not too sure the world is not going to be changing shortly on that issue.
Neilson is being sued over their data and the entire TV universe is being turned upside down by the Internet video revolution.
Gonna get interesting...
Carl... still need that Claritin!
Red, I have trouble with Addington too
@jd: twitter from marty smith:
"I can't imagine how livid Junior must be. 40th?"
and apparently silent on his radio for the last very many laps.
tomorrow should be interesting in the 88 shop.
More of the endless 'drama' for the 88 team... getting old.
Wouldn't it really frost Tony if Reut wins this race, I guess it would balance out Newman is 2nd
nrf in re: addington: that's likely b/c we're nurth-en-urrrrs, ya thnk?
Junior has been uncharacteristcally quiet on the radio.
Not even angry or frustrated.
It's as if he's given up.
I hate to say this I'm toast and actually hope this is the end
Mr H let the 88 team go too long without an intervention. Let's see what happens after Dover.
JD, at what point does FOX play a role in calling this short, considering we're coming into 6pm news, and primetime in the east
would be a move to speed/fx be reasonable, given the track does have lights?
NFR- I said earlier I might not make it to 'the end'... suprised I'm still here watching the race. Haven't flipped either.
Red I understand Elliot Sadler just fine, I think it's a mumble/ soft voice problem not a southern accent issue
I would hope for an Earnhardt interview during this red flag.
If he declines the interview, thats fine, but I think FOX should attempt to talk to Junior.
red said...
nrf in re: addington: that's likely b/c we're nurth-en-urrrrs, ya thnk?
Yeppers, I think you're right.
A network change will occur before this party ends I believe. OMG RADAR!!!
Hey, there's a radar!
Radar! Yeah, finally.
Well, I think I'm going outside to get my dose of vitamin D.
Will read what I missed later.
Bye JD & Planeteers.
Sounds like fox is trying to give reasons to cancel - the radar shows rain moving north, they use arrow to show it is moving east
Thank you to Lou and any other vets we have here at TDP <3
@nrf--not surprised by Mikey, he's VERY patriotic! I remember the Vegas 2K3 race where he had one of his best finishes and he wanted to mess up Bruton's grass along with MattMatt and expressed his love for the military.
@hotaru--what did Mr. Alligator do :(. I'll take Mr. Alligator over Stremme in anything any day. Don't like Stremme
I've just never liked Justin... it goes way back before Penske ever grabbed him up.
If they call this race now it would be unbeleivable. You dont see any rain and they say it is raining
SDDD... ugh.
4:22pm they finally show the radar !!
ITS RAINING NOW - we know its raining !
Use the radar as a "tool" as the rain is approaching. Every pit stall had the radar dialed up.... why didnt FOX ??
The American taxpayers are sponsoring that #88 car for half the time, splitting with Pepsi. As long as the National Guard thinks its a recruiting tool and Pepsi is selling that Amp drink, what's it matter as long as Dale Jr. is a celebrity.
does anyone think this puppy will go the distance
anon@4:22: in my understanding, that's dale's "i'm too angry to even curse about this and i'm gonna be miserable all week that i had such a crap piece of car under me!" if he's just frustrated or angry, he lets it fly. silence happens when he's beyond that into what i think marty smith correctly identified as "livid."
good thing he can drive himself home and not have a long flight ahead of him.
@dot: i have to (finally) agree. this decision belongs to mr h alone and both jrs have said they'll be fine with whatever he decides to do on their behalf.
@h-rb6: i also agree. he's my driver and they're my team but i wish everyone would just shut the (bleep) up and let them work without all the (figurative) spotlights shining in their faces.
re: Jr. There's engineers, car chief, whoever also on the 88. Why blame it all on Jr. and Tony, Jr.?
Maybe. I hope they do.
i remain optimistic lisa. if we get past lap 300 and it starts getting dark, and we get bumped to SPEED and it rains, they might pull the plug. I think everyone still feels its wayyyy too early to pull the plug on this. The ratings for this are going to suck, NASCAR fully knew that after it washed yesterday...
I've just never liked Justin...Or Kyle Busch.
Or Reutimann.
Or Junior.
What can Mr. H do? Split up a team that has wins like the other 3 cars have?
How putting Kes. in the car?
Don't knock the southern people, if not for us, there would be no NASCAR. Addington is from South Carolina,so am I.
Dot, we pay no sales tax in the state of Delaware. Just moved there this year
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