Sunday, October 11, 2009
Live Blogging The Sprint Cup Series From Fontana, CA (2:30PM ET on ABC)
Here we go with a race that is wide open. The Saturday Nationwide Series race at the Fontana track sizzled. Now, the big COT's get ready to try and pass on a track known for aero issues.
It will be Allen Bestwick leading the ESPN production team on the air at 2:30PM with a one hour version of NASCAR Countdown. He will be joined by Rusty Wallace and Brad Daugherty. There are plenty of topics for Bestwick to talk about and hopefully the TV team will try to balance the stories of the race with the stories of the Chase.
Jerry Punch is next with the race coverage. He will take over slightly before the 3:31PM green flag. Punch is going to have a very long day calling the action. This is a 500 mile race and covering all the stories is going to be crucial.
Now in year three, fans are used to watching these races without a true play-by-play call. Instead, Punch offers minimal information, no excitement and begins to lapse into asking questions of his broadcast partners about halfway through these races. Fans still email me about his total silence during the Logano accident two weeks ago. How much longer ESPN will tolerate this remains to be seen.
Dale Jarrett and Andy Petree look and sound like they have had a long season. Jarrett has worked with Punch, Marty Reid and been also asked to handle the play by play alone several times this season. As a result, his formerly crisp and interesting comments are not as well-placed because he holds back.
Andy Petree is the one who has just stepped up and let it fly recently. His ability to step in and point out action on the track that Punch and the producer are missing is key to these telecasts. Petree often calls out the accident location and then fans wait while Punch and the TV cameras try to find it.
Tim Brewer is about out of new things to tell the fans. Saturday, he detailed for fans who have watched the sport since February what a driver has to unbuckle to exit a car. It was painful. Who ever is producing this venue needs to understand fans want knowledge, not repetition.
Shannon Spake, Jamie Little, Dave Burns and Vince Welch are the reporters on pit road. Last week, this team was forced to ask post-race questions to everyone except the security guards as the network had to fill over thirty minutes. Amazingly, once the reporters got away from the questions they were forced to ask by the producers, they did a great job. Hopefully, a lesson learned.
Fontana is rough for tight camera work. It is rough to show the cars racing away from the camera. On the backstretch, only a wideshot shows the pack fanning out to set-up for the passing zone. In-car cameras work best for replays. How much of this is followed and how much is disregarded is about to be seen.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 724 Newer› Newest»Makes me appreciate how much they managed to hold him back to get in the crapshoot. Holy dow, who would have thought he would run this well?
Don't Fear the Reaper? Really?
Don't Fear the Reaper.
Once pitstops are over, it's time to move back through the field and reset after the stops.
This is TV 101.
so are they not going to change the bumper music from last week?
can someone give me a link to MRN radio.
@patrick: wonder if jgr is going to give something to trg in return for putting guilland into the 18 for them (or, at least offering to do that!)
"Don't Fear The Reaper" as JPM's bumper music?
Hmm.
7 off track?
Robby Gordon's exhaust is hanging. No word from the booth. They pulled down pit road on their own, as Officials were discussing it with CC.
#36 OUT - Overheating
#187 OUT - Electrical (pretty normal excuse for Nemechek. Think they need a licensed electrician)
Try this:
http://radiotime.com/affiliate/a_33211/station/Performance_Racing_Network_(PRN)_Radio_Stations.aspx
Yes David, #7 is down 3 laps.
--KarenB
anon@4:08: i'm using wnpv1440.com on my laptop.
Hey JD, I've been having computer problems for the past couple of weeks, so sorry if this has already been covered...
What's up with DirecTV's HotPass? They changed the format about a month ago to where instead of hearing the tv coverage you hear the radio coverage. And a lot less commercials, too.
Is this change permanent? Is it a Fox vs ESPN issue change? And what's up with HotPass for next year? What format is it going to have? Is it even going to be? I seem to remember this is the last year of the contract.
@anon 4:08, WPSK-FM.
Oh goodness...
Intervals would be nice to know how things came out after pit stops. But, that's useful information, isn't it?
and there's the first "if you just joined our coverage" from dr punch: mark it at lap 52.
Really, Dr. Punch? You don't know what that is after all these years? Its a diving board for when Robby parks next to the Auto Club Pool.
Best part of the coverage -
Commercial for "Law Abiding Citizen" ...
There may be 27 on the lead lap.
@sally: that's why God made leaderboards -- b/c espn won't give intervals.
and here we have old man martin big head and green flag racing at the same time.
same old same old.
Really? Our sport is different than all the others? Wow. Then why do they keep trying to make it fit into the same mold as the stick and ball sports?
thnkx
I'm sorry, I thought this was race coverage not driving school movie
Is there no racing going on? MM shots and driver incar shots. Good grief.
what a bunch of useless info they just showed.
Nice comment Sally. Perfect.
I guess they can't say NASCAR is like Glee club. Some people get it, some don't. Even race fans can't agree on oval racing.
Up to speed on the leaders...and more? really? Finally? Nawww.
@David - I wouldn't count on the #71 being locked in at Daytona in 2010. Proof is the #77 "Penske Championship Racing" car owned by Bill Davis.
Jimmie and Harvick catching Juan
Caution
caution
Caution
caution at comercial again the 26
McMurray dumped some fluids.
--KarenB
@DeLanaHarvick, "It's amazing to me that @kevinharvick has been running third most of the race thus far and TV has said nothing about the Shell team"
LOL! You can tell who has TrackPass.
--KarenB
oh boy, now we get the drama of the driver change....
Caution JJ very impressed with someones slide sent his spotter to tell them. Wonder if we will ever see who. It's driver changer time
and here we go . . .
good luck to gilliland!
Tell DeLana that Kev isn't a chosen one.
Unfortunately, it doesn't surprise us, does it? But remember...'If you want TV coverage, run up front". Yeah, that works.
MV, as we discussed a few weeks back, theoretically 2 Yates cars go away. They may extort the system, the 77 is a bad example of what your saying. The 34 and 33 were the examples of what I am saying. 4 car cap, yet EGR had 5 locked in cars between the 1, 42, 8, 34 and 33. All cars that had points earned by DEI or Ganassi.
If NASCAR nips that crap in the bud, the 82 and 71 will be locked in. If TRG is smart and brings HOF into the fold with Bobby Labonte, they may steal the 96's points and lock in that way too.
I expect them to be locked in regardless
Caution spinner.
Yep, Delana is getting a glimpse of what it's like to watch a race on TV.
Yes, you can, Karen. And how fast do you type to try and beat the rest of us
Gee thought Hamlin was going to run over his pit crew just then. Lots of drama when you drop a lug nut.
second "if you just joined our coverage . . . "
Ann, they just flat out dumped ESPN and took the radio call.
DirecTV folks loved it. ESPN...not soo much.
Wouldn't it be nice to have the field reset on the crawler before the flag comes out?
Pipe dream.
Heluva Good! Job by the #18 team.
#26 to the garage
I haven't heard yet if the #7 will return. Anyone?
When is JP going to mention MM's age?
Looks like Happy isn't gonna like the changes to his car.
Racing in the Big Box? What is this sorcery?
Glad AB mentioned the spotter change.
#7 back in the race.
Was anyone actually able to hear the last half of the KyBu interview? I certainly couldn't.
--KarenB
Junior still moving forward. I saw it on the crawler. finally.
@vickyd: if he does, i'm blaming you cmpletely!
young mr busch looks really, REALLY bad. he needs to get his butt to infield care right now.
With everyone talking about how sick KB is today, why would a pit reporter want to get so close to him?
Chili Peppers. California -ication?
Can't believe that Doc did NOT say
"50yr old" Mark Martin is leading.
Faint dead away.
He's waiting till they come back from commercial.
JPM back in front
@Sally....Shhhhhhh!!!!!
I think it's like a no hitter in bball. If we don't say anything maybe he'll get a top.....:)
Yep, get it Patrick. California!
Montoya is for real in this Chase.
Was saying the splitter was hitting early on that run, pressures are up now
88 up to 11th -- just sayin' . . .
robby back out 26 laps down
This might be one of the earliest field recaps they ever offered.
@red yes, gut we have over a hundred and fifty laps to go. If I had a dollar for every time he has been running top ten with thirty to go only to mess up and finish 13th I could buy us both a mocha latte and a muffin....just saying
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Tweet from Delana Harvick.
"It's amazing to me that @kevinharvick has been running third most of the race thus far and TV has said nothing about the Shell team"
We aren't the only ones who notice the coverage SUCKS, Also no mention that Kevin thought he had a flat tire...
@ri88girl: i hear ya'. just thought we should let folks know since the booth wasn't telling anyone.
now rusty & brad jump on board -- sorta.
Wow. Did ESPN just abandon the booth?
Welcome to the Jungle
Jr!!!!!!!!!!!! Isn't he the cutest? Just had to get that in...He could run dead last and I would still be watchin', y'all! Woo-Hoo!
oooo... Jr's in the top 10! Looks like making hand gestures helps his driving ;-)
Caution.
Caution #39
caution, someone sprung a flat
Caution
i'm not saying anything but the caution is out again
Ann_Ominous said...
oooo... Jr's in the top 10! Looks like making hand gestures helps his driving ;-)
always has! that and a "colorful" vocabulary.
newman brings out caution w/a tire going down.
Bob Osbourne, talking to Carl Edwards, says #39's innerliner blew up on pit road.
--KarenB
They keep dumping the triple split and missing the race off pit road.
That just stunk!
Too bad they couldn't mention why the caution was out while they call stops.
"Oh, wow!", was the comment.
--KarenB
Do they not think the viewers might like to know WHY the caution is out? I know cuz I'm reading, but they didn't say anything!
JP just did
Did they change out pit crews with JJ & Jr?
Chad will not be happy with these pit stops today.
@dot: man! that was a waste of a mouthful of beer -- but at least i missed the keyboard. (cat isn't too thrilled and is washing like mad . . .)
maybe a heads-up next time you're gonna be brilliant?
@Dot..I was thinking the same thing! :-)
@Red, at least your cat should have a decent buzz when it finishes!
Cry me a river for Jimmie Johnson.
Ouch. Gilliland said the pit stop was faster than he's used to.
JD, I like it, too! That's why I was asking about next year.
The only bad thing is that it is hard to tell when tv coverage has resumed to switch back over. (I'm sure many are NOT switching back over!)
Oooooo, Andy sounded a little testy there with Dr. Punch.
--KarenB
So Montoya's teammate takes 2 tires early...trying something to help the 42 later?...
Not like its a significant development as relates to a team trying to win a championship...
Sally said...
@Red, at least your cat should have a decent buzz when it finishes!
yeah, but he's skeeving me out with his glaring -- and he knows where i sleep!
And cats WILL get even! Try catnip.
No field reset except the top two before the green. Amazing.
@sally: ahh, the infamous "kitty drugs"! good plan.
and does superman REALLY wear jimmie johnson pajamas? such a dumb statement: we're adults, guys, ok? try speaking to us as such.
off to offer catnip . . .
Ann, DirecTV is in big financial trouble just like Sirius radio.
2010 should be um...interesting.
Would have been a good time to do a field summary but I guess they like the in car view instead.
I love it. Tehy repeat the useless info on dhanging drivers, yet can't give us timely updates on the running order. Worldwide leader, eh?
Hotpass audio is far superior to the ESPN booth. I am loving this. The radio guys are describing dozens of events that never make it on camera there at ESPN. Is the ESPN crew on location or at Bristol, CT?
Remember that big wideshot of the backstretch we got yesterday to watch them fan out for the pass?
Today, not sooooooo much.
@Red...just keep it away from Jeremy Mayfield and JC France!
Foghat
Must have run out of Cali tunes.
@JesseMcCartney "Can't believe I forgot the words to the Anthem! I've performed it 100 times. Bad Nerves today I guess"
Can't believe that boy has ever sung that song before in his life!
OMG ESPN is just terrible. why can't they keep the camera consistant with wide shots.
I still have to laugh at Punch. No one's in simply 5th, 6th, 8th or etc....to him they're in 5th "position" or 6th "position".....I wonder if he realizes how many times he says that?
McMurray back on track
Overkill on the "Ode to HMS" commercials ...
No clue if the director just decided to hop around like this or if the producer wants it like that.
Robby back to the garage?
jd, maybe it's the energizer bunny calling the shots in the truck today.
and another big head under green flag racing. can't these packages fit in th epre-race "stuff"?
Face it...ESPN producer/director has NO clue how to show a race. They are really bad.
Artistic motor race broadcasting.
Well, we haven't heard a tire going down yet!!! And now we have JPM standing in front of a little box showing him racing. Where are the other cars?
Now, Brad Daugherty is picking up Rusty's annoying traits and will start using the words "dead" and "flat" every other sentence.
Beating A Dead Horse,
Artistic or Autistic?
wait! what? i thought dale qualified 35th, jaimie, not 37th? minor but what the good DrT calls "an unforced error."
OK, I'm a fan of Junior's, but even I think they focused on him for too long, just for running 8th.
Patrick, I guessed the second would get my post deleted. I am trying to play well with others today.
We joke about stations going to an infomecial instead of post race or whatever, but the coverage today has made me feel as if I'm watching an infomercial for NASCAR instead of an actual event. They show what it is, how it works, then some 'action' shots then more talking heads about why you should care and buy the product, then more how it works and what it is. Action shots more heads and so on.
STOP THE IN CAR CAMERA SHOTS. you lose all perspective of the battle for the lead
And David Gilliland has disappeard from the telecast. Logano was in the top 10...now 24th. Lots going on that we never hear about.
I would like to buy some of this NASCAR. From the infomercial I am watching it looks like it would be some fun.
Dr. Feelgood. I think they need a new set list. Although, Motley Crue is from Cali
Caution.
Caution
Howdy Folks! Arriving fashionably late to the gathering today after watching the Cowboys try to lose to the Chiefs. Caught up on the Tivo, switching over to the JPM HotPass channel so I can hear the MRN call.
And PRN doing thru the field. Ahhhh. Debris. Wonder if they will show it?
It looks like a good crowd on the frontstretch. Wonder what the numbers are though.
they almost made it back in time for the caution. so, now they get a whole another reason for another commercial break (ya know, the one after the lead lap pits for aligning the field)
Glory Days, the Boss
JJ Chad and Spotter plotting to change channels if necessary. That could put my scanner listening at a disadvantage. JJ didn't like everyone knowing what they were doing last week
oh! I had no idea JD. I've been comptemplating a change to attuverse anyway.....
John Andretti stayed out? He's in this race?
Car moved on Juan's last stop. He switches feet when he stops, needs to wait a bit longer before doing it next time in
Kenseth got a penalty for pit road speeding. Let's see if the booth mentions it.
--KarenB
Gotta glimpse of my fav, but just a nanosecond since he's not in the chase.
TOTALLY OT:
i keep switching over to the colorado-new england game b/c i just can't get over how ugly the colorado throwback uniforms really are! when did they ever wear those uniforms for them to be "throwbacks" now?!?
(closed captioning just read "Ba da ba ba ba" what was that about?!?)
No debris shown...and a long caution.
I think Dot's right and they took Chad's crew and gave it to Lance for the weekend.
Red, it is the 50th year of the AFL, and Denver is an old AFL team, therefore all the old AFL teams are wearing throwbacks to their first seasons, that is Denver's look from back then.
Probably from when they were in a different city I believe
@david: i was a BIG afl fan back in the day and i don;t remember EVER seeing those uniforms. the leggings give you vertigo!
(you're right, tho': they weren't a denver team back when.)
This is about the time when we get long periods of silence from Punch. Then, he starts to ask questions of DJ and Andy.
Childress cars running 10,11,12.
not that it's hurt the 48 any....
Remember when EVERY Nascar race was so compelling and interesting you wouldn't dare turn the channel for fear of missing a moment of racing? Sad...Back in the day....What have they done to this sport?
Chia pet commercial inserted in Seattle
Sorry, Doc. Jr. is passing Biffle for the spot, mot the other way. guess he's missed the 'thru the field' bits too.
@ri88girl--if the NASCAR broadcast resembles an infomercial--then where is the high energy pitchman (Mr Shamwow or Anthony Sullivan) that fronts the whole production? Great observation--but I expect nothing less from the Planeteers. Take another bow!
Daly Planet Editor said...
"This is about the time when we get long periods of silence from Punch. Then, he starts to ask questions of DJ and Andy."
Like where am I, how did I get here, what am I doing? Why can't we see the race from this little room?
I'm so bored I'm going to do some laundry. It's either that or fall asleep in my computer chair. Crap race, crap broadcast.
--KarenB
Red, your dating yourself...
lol.
It had to be from their first season, dunno much more than that. I don't mind them but I've only seen the tops. Haven't seen the bottoms on them. I love most of the AFL ones, especially the Chargers ones.
This has been a pretty darn competitive race for California. Wow, that Montoya audio was live no delay
Kansas City had 'Dallas Texans' uniforms. Really weird. Those Texans never played the Cowboys so they decided someone should (what a merchandising gimmick...)
@red- Denver Broncos were an original AFL team. Those were from 1960-61. They hated the uniforms so much they invited the public to a parking lot at the stadium to burn those socks when they redesigned the uniforms. Been a great series on Showtime called Full Color Football about the history of the AFL, last episode is this coming week.
red - Closed Captioning operators do NOT have an easy job ... My sister works for one ...
Did I miss the Tony Stewart update? I know 14th isn't THAT bad, but its a pretty disappointing showing for a team that just came off a win.
Good grief, we are only half way thru this....I need to walk the dog, I think.
Beating - great questions from Punch!
Jeff's got a new NASCAR Superstore spot. Does that mean no more 'Hollygram' reference?
now that we are watching Jr set up the pass it's time to switch to another car's incar
@bevo: i just don't remember the broncos ever wearing brown with yellow jerseys and stripes (!) on the leggings. 'course, was never a brocos fan: jets back then, doncha know.
those uniforms should have been left in storage.
@david: heck, i remember listening to the ny rangers on the radio when there were only 6 NHL teams.
anon@5:20: copy on the closed captioning folks and how tough that job is. i just was curious about what, exactly, was being said/sung that translated to that.
Has anybody heard anything on James Hylton's condition?
Andy looks rather silly today because didn't he say yesterday that the Cup cars would NOT get down on that apron like the NW cars did yesterday? Well Andy...maybe next week.
@Ri88...you sure called that one!
I called it JD. There's your Eagles.
Red, remember I'm a puppy. Im only 22, so the days of the AFL pre-date me by alot. The only AFL I remember is the Arena Football League lol
@red- you would have loved last week's episode, Broadway Joe and the Super Bowl win. It was amazing seeing how emotional he still was about it so many years later saying "we did it" and holding his finger up for Number 1 :)
@david: sigh. not your fault but . . . sigh.
Wow, just like I said this got bad fast. Reed Sorenson in the top 20. Tony still in the top 15. Stories all throughout the field.
red - That might've been when they played Monty's radio ... and he was babbling like a baby cause he was having fun ... LOL ;-)
I see UPS is getting their air time here.
#26 told to pick up the speed.
@bevo: dems my boys! sorry i missed it! namath sure slapped unitas' colts.
(oh wait! there's a race on?)
The radio guys are calling an exciting race on Hotpass. Where is ESPN racing?
Red, I know. I know.
my whole life ahead of me ;)
Updating on Tony, AJ, Reed and some others would be nice...perhaps that through the field thing?
"See how successful our on-air talent is at delivering your commercial information while forcing the viewer to look at an elongated product placement segment. We also have the ability to show glimpses of other products on our shiny walls. All the better to serve our cliants in Nascar the best place for pr"
Jesse MC..whatever-his-name-is..made the front page of www.TMZ.com. The National Anthem debocle...At least the race will be in the news for something...sure not for the racing!
Beating A Dead Horse said...
The radio guys are calling an exciting race on Hotpass. Where is ESPN racing?
perhaps " . . .at a starbucks in brentwood" w/the 18 team?
(still making me laugh with that one, jd!)
If you just joined our coverage, DRINK!
Like Kenny Schrader said the last ARCA race, the race isn't over yet!
Per points now, top 8 have a chance.
Re Gilliland, I guess we know now that it isn't just the equip.
-sigh- Shannon repeating JP
Evenflow? Not on this channel
How about an update on Sam Hornish Jr??
Oh waitaminute ... He's NOT a Chaser ... But, I can tell the car is loose solely by looking at the Leaderboard ...
Those ABC show commercials need warnings.
ESPN 'coverage' just proves why having 12 cars on the track won't make for interesting racing. Concentrating on just 12 and leaving out the other 31 doesn't make for compelling watching, either. The TV coverage is why so many people think the races are too long. No one complained 10 years ago.
Wonder if they would let us watch the race with Alan K winning the championship at Atanta instead of this ESPN crap coverage....
You can always tell who is either the lucky dog or the last car on the lead lap. #55 reporting oil in turn 1. Caution car, "nope, all clear"
Im so looking foward to 2010.... Febuary to be exact! Cause that will be the next race that WONT be on Abc/Espn THANK GOD!!!! This is a joke! I think the producer is a blindfolded monkey!
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