Saturday, July 3, 2010
Live Blogging Sprint Cup Series From Daytona (6:30PM - TNT)
Here we go with TNT's biggest race of the year. Daytona under the lights starts with a one-hour pre-race Countdown to Green show.
Lindsay Czarniak will host with Kyle Petty and Larry McReynolds alongside on the TNT "infield rig." The big feature is one on the late Dale Earnhardt Sr. Folks who have seen it say that it really does a lot to put his contributions to the sport in a very human perspective. The live interview on the set is Tony Stewart. Wally's World will be back with a track description.
Upstairs to call the race will be Adam Alexander, Wally Dallenbach Jr. and Petty. On pit road are Ralph Sheheen, Marty Snider, Matty Yocum and Phil Parsons.
This is the Wide Open coverage that TNT has been tweaking for years. It features commercials in a video box while the racing continues on the screen. In return, there are some added sponsor logos and animation elements. It works, but some folks really hate it because of the differences.
TNT will once again offer RaceBuddy. Jim Noble is the RaceBuddy pit road reporter and he has been doing a great job with interviews and updates. This online free application features multiple cameras and a social media stream for chat.
3D TV is on the way and TNT will originate two streams of 3D content for this race. DirecTV, NASCAR.com and several major cable TV providers will offer this content free of charge. The only drawback is that viewers must have a 3D capable computer monitor or TV. Of course, you have to wear the glasses!
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 430 Newer› Newest»Is it just me, or is there not much info coming thru about what's happening on track? I feel rather lost already.
Looks like each wide open sponsor is getting a 10-lap segment.
Kyle Busch holding his own alone in front of leaders. They are not catching him
Bevo,
He has a ton of things to do with this Wide Open coverage.
I had hoped Adam would crank it up a bit more, but not tonight so far.
Sally, I'm not learning much from the bobble heads either.
not sure why we are pickin on david tonight, but i appreciate his info, so far he's been the most accurate.. how people can complain about a commercial graphic in the corner vice having a commercial fill the whole screen is just amazing
This is one of those races where you don't need a lot of PXP because the action will do the talking for you. I feel Alexander's doing an ample job.
I keep forgetting to switch to RB because the TV camera shots are so good. I can follow the race....what a concept!
Makiki
Honolulu
Bevo I agree. Missing Shaheen. I felt he was the best piece they had for that role.
Adam is a good reporter.
Decent flow on SD, doesn't appear as smushed as I expected
I think TNT is doing a good job of showing the action on the track during commercials without the commercials blocking what is happening.
87 off
Matt covered that 48 stop perfectly. Phil looks even worse now.
Re: Makiki @ 10:04
Agree, really good coverage on TNT tonight.
You guys complaining about the commercials are crazy - this is TONS better than going away for full-screen commercials for mulitiple laps at a time.
ok, i really appreciated seeing the pit crew names and positions on that stop by the 48. wish every team could get that once each race.
i got the 65" hd and 27" sd on at the sametime and they are doing a great job with that camera with the commercial box on and not covering the cars, how does the camera guy know how far that box comes up that he can do that?
I get that he has a lot to handle tonight but so far this season I'm getting a Jerry Punch vibe from him.
from dinger's wife via twitter:
"right front is either blistering or starting to shred from what I see. Did 4 tires and fuel"
Some folks have said they altered the HD format a bit and elmininated the graphics at the bottom almost entirely.
One guy has RaceBuddy plugged into his widescreen TV so he has two telecasts going of the same race.
OK, so it's not just me that thinks the actual race coverage as in PXP is pretty poor?
now they are talking about the 18 and 48 together which is fine, but up till now they haven't done much -- don't like Phil Parsons on pit road at all.
I've watched on 52 In HD & 33 SD. Race looks good in both formats to me. Beats the heck out of full sreens adds?
Graphics cut off a bit on the 4:3 though..
and she updates on dinger: " oth right tires were corded."
Anon, I am told it does not overlap, but the video is full and the graphic at the bottom extends below the end of the live video as it is framed.
Does that make sense??
don't remember drivers making single car stops at restrictor plate races before.
Disappointed with RB as only the top 22 are showing on leaderboard. And mosaic is locked up and I can only watch battle.
@Anon 10:08 - I would guess the production truck provides crosshairs or box corners for the camera guys to know what part of the shot is being seen by the viewer.
brad: agreed in re: single car pit stops at daytona. but then again, i don't remember tires going to cord so quickly which seems to be the reason we're seeing these 1-car stops.
David, I miss Ralph in the booth, too! I can't say I like Adam in this role - he just doesn't do it for me.
Good job by NASCAR letting all the stops cycle before throwing caution
good move they held that caution for "non serious debris" until everyone had finished green flag stops
this is such a different daytona pit-stop event. i'm more used to having teammates come in together and leave together to keep the draft.
granted, the tires are forcing some teams' hands but still, it's odd.
18 is discussing changing the studs on the left rear so they can have fast stops late
I miss Ralph in the booth, too. Fit in with chemistry of Kyle & Wally after Weber left...nothing against AA...
jd, you know sometimes when you watch hd and there are black bars on the top and bottom because its widescreen, is that what they have done and basically shifted the picture up and the graphic at the bottom is two bars wide? therefore no picture is being lost?
JD was there any word asto why they selected Alexander? I can't recall. Just giving him a shot or did Ralph get offered the gig and decline?
He was the much more seasoned PxP guy in my eyes from all the stuff he does on SPEED
Why dont directors show the debris?
David - I agree, why screw up the race flow for non-serious debris.
Red -- I know it is weird - maybe the bigger plate will allow them to not need to pit in tandem.
David,
Every network wants "their guy." FOX has Mike Joy and ESPN has Marty Reid.
TNT chose Adam as "their guy." Ralph was not an issue in the decision. As you may know, Ralph does another major motorsports event series on SPEED.
The debris was off the 46 when he shredded the right front.
Again great call by NASCAR holding off to let things cycle. I'm impressed. Almost halfway...
anon @10:22: not trying to be sarcastic here really but no need to show debris this last time since it was pretty evident when we saw yeley's exploded tire flopping as he came down pit road.
curiously, tires may become a big issue at daytona tonight.
Anon 10:20PM,
That is almost the same. TNT basically squeezes the video into a parameter and then inserts the graphic to perfectly fit the HD screen ratio.
ginav24: it's just so strange. since forever, team pitting has been a gigantic part of the strategy here. i can't quite get used to it yet.
Thanks. I guess it makes sense, but at the same time Ralph doing that series gives him better qualifications to be in that role over a veteran pit reporter.
I was telling a guy at work several months back when TNT announced it he got excited because he thought I was talking about Rick Allen. he really enjoys Rick and this would have been a great gig for him. Imagine Allen, Petty and Dallenbach. Now THAT would be an energetic booth!
that is why every nascar race should be wide open or split screen commercials
I agree with annon. If the ratings reflect a huge difference, I would love to see it happen
I know, Red, it sure is odd. Its nice to see them able to run without having to be right on top of one another, too, but I know I wasn't expecting this either.
Dinger tried to put that car in a hole that didn't exist.
I prefer wide open to split screen because the racing is shown in normal size rather than shrunk down. Much easier to see when there is an incident.
NASCAR needs to figure out how to do the split screen thing for all the races. It makes for a much more enjoyable broadcast to watch. the other way of 3 minutes of racing with 5 minutes of commercials just doesn't cut it these days -- people just use their recorders and FF anyway.
They must not have sold all their inventory for this as they're running promos for their own programming.
not sure it will have significant effect on the ratings for most races (people just don't want to invest that much time), but it sure makes it great for those of us who watch each week..plus i would argue the companies are getting more for their money, i actually do see their stuff and hear it, where normally i walk out of the room when the block of commercials come on
What I really like is this information section that is very reminiscent of the "Old ESPN" where you got information without the booth having to mention it. Stating the leader and wave around cars as well as free pass is a neat bonus.
Very good balance with all the graphic elements minus the leader one and split screen one
Mike, told it was the regular commercial inventory piece by piece just like we would see in a regular format. So, the promo's stayed!
Adam can sure read a good promo!
David,
All three Sprint Cup networks have rejected the notion of a social media rep in the booth to provide that type of content.
Instead, they hand the Twitter phone to the PR guys who offer nothing but obvious race comments.
TV networks just don't get social media yet...
Hamblin has been the most impressive driver tonight so far. He sorta sneaked up on everyone.
LOL and a new position in the world is created - a social media rep -- I only use twitter to follow race stuff. otherwise I don't care what people are doing in their "normal" lives. I'm living mine.
JD, I was not referring to Twitter but rather the bottom graphic bar of the screen they have been using for various info. Coming out of caution to green they showed that information as well as just now the points as they ran. And they DIDNT talk about it! just show it and keep calling the race. I personally like seeing points as they run but I know people hate HEARING about it. It makes for good balance I feel.
You get your nuggets without taking away from action on the track.
I've absolutely enjoyed TNT's coverage this season. If I had to pick a negative it would be Marty Snider always finishing his reports by saying "isn't that right, Kyle & Wally?" or something to that effect.
boy are they missing the racing..jj just about hit kb and they are talking crap
good thing i recognize the symbol because you can't read the Victory Junction decal on Jamie's roof cam!
Anon, I saw that too and wondered why the booth didn't mention it.
I agree, it's way too low key for me. Adam needs to crank it up and he just can't. Having Jerry Punch flashbacks.
can you imagine bestwicks call when jj squeezed him, he would have interrupted larry macs irrelevant analysis at the time.
RaceBuddy audio (ATT DSL) still a half second ahead of TNT (Comcast) here in Bloomington, Indiana.
Great camera work, informative graphics. Could use more info from the pit reporters.
Dale Jr in 30th. No comments from booth?
Yeah, and those flashbacks are NOT good ones. Boy you are so right, Allen would have been all over it, so would Marty Reid. Adam and the rest are just doing this la, la, la coverage deal.
@David: Jr is running behind the 5 so maybe it is by design.
they are past halfway - and its almost 11 p.m. east coast time, they need to pick it up and impress me more or I'm gonna go to bed and watch the end tomorrow.
Concentrating on the front of the field, with occasional reference to 'the other' cars farther back. When they don't keep track, that's when we get the, "Where did he come from?"
Getting grief from the media at the track. Apparently, while TNT was in the commercial, AJ and the King got into in in the pits.
Wonder if TNT will follow that up?
jr can't ride up high, said his head was bouncing like a ping pong ball and couldn't see too well..they can't find the right adjustment, going to try a rubber in right rear..
hey, Red, they did the pit crew summary again. It is a nice touch. A lot better than the bobblehead camera thing they use on the crewman. That view makes me sooooo sick.
And those things are what keep things interesting...not yet another twist to the crapshoot format!
JD. They probably sent Phil to cover it! sounds like a good story from what i see on twitter.
Wow, well, would it be a conflict of interest for Kyle if they do?
I wonder if Richard is tired of the dinger tearing up equipment every race?
Well judging from what I heard about why AJ got fired from Red Bull, follow-up on that situation would be very nice!!!
Course maybe this will prove just how little Richard has to do with day-to-day operations at RPM...
ok, gluck says this on twitter:
"At the sight of AJ video, the whole media center went, "OH!!!" Looked like Petty was trying to console him but AJ wanted none of it."
HOLY CRAP !!!!!! Kyle is gonna be pissed at JPM!
That was not cool with the 18 and the 42.
Is it me, or are the side by side commercials sometimes 5 minutes apart? We get a long span without commercials, then they get crammed together for a while.
Adam hasn't really impressed me at all. He reports, reads promos, one dimentional, and has no range...sounds familiar.
Phil as a pit reporter is still a complete joke.
That was a 'racin' deal'. Kyle came up a lot more than the 42 came down. Kyle has done that a lot this weekend.
Man. Kyle wasted no time getting out of it. amazing how light these cars are even on the straights.
I'm going to go cry now.
42 reporting rain
triple splits look good here on SD
MRN reported the situation between Allmendinger and the King. They said Allmendinger and Loomis are in the trailer talking things over.
clearly kb came right, he thought he was clear and wasn't..not sure if he thought jpm should have lifted but not sure he has any right to be ticked
guess the local network just grabbed hold of the top of the hour 'cause i have full screen commercials right now on comcast.
Kyle might be more ticked at his spotter. Hard saying.
Mike, one reporter just told me it was a physical confrontation.
That should be interesting....
i'm picturing it has the king trying to calm down aj, and he pushes him away..did not want to be consoled..or calmed down..
Yes, that's how MRN reported it as well, JD. And when I say trailer, I'm talking about the team's trailer, and not the NASCAR trailer, per se.
it was 100% a racing deal. however, with Kyle it is never a racin deal unless he is doing the wrecking otherwise someone else did something stupid to take him out. Nice interview Kyle real mature ther buddy!
why would they not show the replay from the front first, that was stupid
man, shaheen just is NOT letting young mr busch get away with his snarky answers tonight. as a result, we finally get a solid answer.
good for shaheen!
Kyle is being so sarcastic at first, good for Ralph to try and get a follow up. Good explanation of the draft from Kyle.
Red, you and I are sharing a brain wave tonight!
Excellent reporting there with Kyle
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Thank goodness that was not Phil Parsons....
Ralph needs an award for getting that answer out of Kyle! Imagine if that was Phil or heaven forbid Jamie Little!
The draft does weird things, sucks for Kyle not much else to say.
I also agree horrible job cuing up that first angle of the replay
for all pit reporters on all networks ..... that is how to interview Kyle Busch. please take notes and apply in the future
@GinaV24: well, i'm on nyquil so my inside voice has been creeping out quite a bit more than usual tonight.
Yep, Kudos to Ralph!
what lap will hornish cause the big one?
@Red - LOL, I'm using Mike's hard lemonade myself -- I hate it when the voices inside my head get heard by others!
Hopoe you feel better.
TNT/NASCAR Media crew and the truck are having a great race. Tough night in the booth.
@Anon, LOL -- that is a standing bet my brother and I have
Man oh man, the 5 was loose
Holy Cow!!!! What a save!
@Sally, for sure! and no one else panicked and wrecked the field. Oooh, I spoke too soon
No reason to show a car pitting in full screen under green. Now we know why.
I think we just figured out why Adam has been so subdued for the majority of this broadcast. 3 cars get together and Adam gets excited to say "it's the big one!" I think he's just been laying low waiting for the big one to occur.
And our PXP man called the Ragan incident 'The Big One' before it happened.
Drivers being told to save fuel, close to making it if it runs regular disatance
@MikeC -- LOL - so he's saving up his excitement? You could be right -- he could do better than this, I'm not impressed.
hey jd? so i'm getting full screen commercials here on comcast on philly again. isn't wide-open supposed to be for the entire race?
got to tnt show commercials, now a local furniture one. feels like the locals took over again to get THEIR commercials shown.
Ralph is REALLY doing great work tonight in interviews
40 laps to go, geez its late.
I agree! Great job Ralph! Yes Jamie and Phil would have backed down (well they wouldn't have asked REAL questions to begin with) but Ralph hung in there and kept pushing for a REAL answer.
@red - Wide Open is not for the entire race, there are still conventional breaks once in a while.
@Red, I think they are doing fullsize commercials during cautions -- I have fios in the philly area and I'm getting the same thing. Only using the split coverage during green flag racing
full screen = local commercial breaks
Allmendinger is back on track.
Yes, you'll get full screen commercial breaks when TNT sends it to the local cable companies for their breaks.
jr up to 18th, yellow saved him along with the wave around rule!
any update on the AJ/Richard Petty deal? Since TNT hasn't mentioned it.
thanks to all for the clarification. i think i might have known that around 7 tonight but now? uhhh, not so much recall remains.
kyle petty just twittered he knew nothing about it, never heard about it.. where's the pit reporters
GinaV24: someone asked kyle about it on twitter & he had no idea what they were talking about. i suspect the booth doesn't know anything about it.
so now we get public service announcements from the drivers about the good year tires? Geez, that's lame
and from jenna fryer on twitter:
"Robbie Loomis on Dinger v King: ``I always say the car owner shouldn't talk to the driver anytime after the race, especially after an accident. I think Richard's been here so many times, he's been through this stuff and he was just trying to get him to loosen up and let the boys do their stuff on fixing the car and get back out there. Anytime you talk to somebody at the wrong time, it always causes discussion that needs to be worked out. That's all that happened.'"
The thing between AJ and the King is most likely something the booth would know nothing about. That's the pit people's duty. What MRN has is a pit reporter who doesn't report on any pit stops....the guy's job is solely to report on cars out of the race....so, he happened to be in the right place at the right time to see the incident, as did some other reporters. Evidently TNT didn't have anyone see it.
thanks for the updates, folks, I appreciate it. the booth probably doesn't know then, but there are pit reporters down there - of course they probably sent Phil or Jaime and both are a waste of breath.
OK, put the racing in the BIG screen and the in car in the small one.
Adam is so much wanting to call the big one. Sees the #26 go around and he says "there it is!"
mikec might have to play it back, they were just talking about if the race went green albeit highly unlikely and then the yellow comes out, that might have been what he was referring to..
I think this is the point in the race where cautions breed cautions. It's up to Adam to bring it on home!
someone's going to end up in the middle get loose and take out a few cars.. come on 77
Are there a lot of Goodyear ads I'm not seeing here in Canada? I keep hearing screeching tires and look for something going wrong on the track, but I think it's that Goodyear blimp doing a burnout.
this is when it all gets crazy and scary
MV - they have been doing a lot of goodyear ads IMO I'd like to see the blimp doing that burnout!
unlike last night, i don't think they are done wreckin!
holy mackerel
that was definately a big one!!
Adam's call of it wasn't even that great! predictable if u will!
I don't know...it seemed like Burton was holding that inside lane up.
5 on fire. Red flag. holy cow thi sjust garbled everything
How many people said Hornish was going to cause the next crash? But watching Kurt Busch go at it, I had a notion he would be the one to trigger it.
what a mess :(
Looks like you folks on the East Coast got some Independence Day fireworks! Happy Fourth of July.
An overhead shot from the blimp of that wreck would help about now.
well Adam finally got his wish
No kidding. Sam about got trashed there
As Jenna Fryer just said on Twitter, how could the pit reporter not ask JPM about his contact with Kyle Busch?
Marty just crapped the bed not asking JPM about the deal with Kyle
dale jr is asking his crew if they have seen a replay on how he made it through
JD tweeted something about 25 minutes ago.
Where are the overhead shots?? Is the Blimp not responsible for this tonite??
Except for Ralph I don't think any of the pit reporters are doing a good job tonight
jr switching to b box, has higher rev chip in it, also switching both batteries on for last laps, not sure what that does for him
Been about an hour since JD posted anything on here. a blimp shot would be really nice now. if you don't use the blimp shot for this, why put a camera on there??
it looks to me that the 31 came up into the 77
@Gina - You mean the 31 came up into the 2, right?
@Gina - Sorry, into the 77, but cutting off the 2 in the process, I guess.
i wonder if the blimp is no longer in the air? how much fuel do they have? or better yet, is it too late for it to be up in the air?
Must be past JD's bedtime. Long time Steve Park fan here so I am in 7th heaven!!
higher chip means more RPM. Jr letting it all hang out.
What is taking so long? SAFER get damaged there?
What would you like me to post?
I am watching TNT and RaceBuddy, chatting here, on Facebook and Twitter and talking on the phone.
All I need is 3D and my night will be complete.
Good coverage of the wreck, but Adam is out of gas and being a pit reporter. He don't get it.
Looked like 9 hit 2, 2 hit 31, 31 hit 77
The blimp or any aerial platform is contractually obligated for the length of the TV telecast.
Helicopters simply land and refuel. The blimp can fly for many hours.
jd where's the blimp? is it down, that would have had to be the best view of it
yep, so far, Adam has been a real waste as a PXP guy. The pictures have been good, I'm enjoying what I'm seeing, but the booth and most of the pit reporters have been useless.
turn 3 safer has damage. could be a bit of a red flag.
dave i get the rev chip, but would running both batteries give him? Jr. is trying to now get out of their normal tuesday conf call
the biggest lesson of this race, is that there is no downside of wide open coverage. race buddy is great, streaming online eventually has to happen
Check RaceBuddy for the good aerial views.
Can't believe Kevin Conway goes from 30th to 18th,... certainly not on merit or driving ability. He was probably so far behind, he was nowhere near the wreck.
More voltage in case the first is low
safety measure for them
mv he could lead to the next wreck given he's not used to being there
MV - I thought that too -- he'll get a good finish based on survival
may have to have a roll call to see how many are still here awake
conway not the first to benefit from "the big one" at plate tracks
Remember the last time this happened? The remainder of the field crashed again.
Shouldn't have any trouble covering all of the cars since there's only about 18 of them left
I had to run outside and see if my car was involved in that wreck
By the way, atleast Conway doesn't start and park. good bad or ugly they run most of the races.
did TNT ever give a count/list of cars involved?
russ with the best line of the night
power move by Super G but i think it was too early.
GWC with 6 cars. Nice!
bad end for the 77, I thought he was gonna finish
ouch
77 almost made it.
jr and crew chief going at it, wants to know what jr's problem..jr says went into the f*** fence what do you mean whats wrong... crew chief was asking what caused it to go into the fence.. a lot of temper...
Clint wanted to know why they couldn't wait 2 seconds longer
haha I'm pretty sure no one had Steve Park in the top 10 for TNT million dollar challenge (9th right now)! LOL, so is this going to 3 GWC's? are there enough cars left for that?
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