tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post1529568438654800438..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Bittersweet Homestead Race Closes NASCAR TV SeasonDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16024185000542321542008-11-18T14:08:00.000-05:002008-11-18T14:08:00.000-05:00Thank you for opening this blog to us. NASCAR fan...Thank you for opening this blog to us. NASCAR fans feel they have to complain a lot to be heard, and it looks like ABC/ESPN listened after the Phoenix race...I enjoyed seeing the final race of the year to its completion including post-race, all on ABC. <BR/><BR/>Congratulations to Jimmie, Chad and the entire 48 Team on their Third Consecutive NASCAR Sprint Cup Championship!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-59980346508223101562008-11-18T10:57:00.000-05:002008-11-18T10:57:00.000-05:00I believe Tony Kornheiser is just at ESPN to stir ...I believe Tony Kornheiser is just at ESPN to stir people up with his blather. Of course he could'nt like NASCAR, his brain would fry. With all the problems he has with football, ESPN should look elsewhere for knowledge and incite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-85857376533502591562008-11-17T23:01:00.000-05:002008-11-17T23:01:00.000-05:00@ Tracy - no doubt some do have passion for motor ...@ Tracy - no doubt some do have passion for motor sports. Why does it not come thru? Because the Powers in the Truck won't let it. They are not fans. Speed has people who care & respect the sport, espn does not. And it shows on the tv in the finished product.<BR/>Whats the old saying? Something about lamps under baskets?<BR/>You can't see the light.<BR/><BR/>And that is espns problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5143778833342847592008-11-17T20:12:00.000-05:002008-11-17T20:12:00.000-05:00I have been a HMS fan for years. It started with T...I have been a HMS fan for years. It started with Terry, then Jeff, and now Jr and Jimmie. I congratulate them on 25 years of racing, and let them know they are the reason I still watch NASCAR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-88841451740988386742008-11-17T18:52:00.000-05:002008-11-17T18:52:00.000-05:00Just to balance it out, I still watch party becaus...Just to balance it out, I still watch party because of Jimmie and HMS.<BR/><BR/>Now on to ESPN.<BR/><BR/>Too many cooks and some of them are buring the broth. PXP is basically nonexistant. Scriped coverage instead of following the racing, occasionally they would lapse and start to look for battles but then revert back to the script. Pit reporters have improved but still need work. General disrepect of Nascar and its fans which has been well documented in this post. See SLF comments. I remember we were all complaining about Fox's camera angles (ESPN was much better with this) but at least the races were exciting to watch and I don't think the races changed it was the coverage.Newracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16324764517098771035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-67482349549987098052008-11-17T18:47:00.000-05:002008-11-17T18:47:00.000-05:00I really believe there is a culture problem at ESP...I really believe there is a culture problem at ESPN - racing just happens to get the shortest stick, except for coverage of the sport per se. It is clear to me that the ESPN culture views ESPN as the show, not the sport being covered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35124223652200665842008-11-17T18:27:00.000-05:002008-11-17T18:27:00.000-05:00This may not sound like a tv commentary, but give ...This may not sound like a tv commentary, but give me a chance. If Jimmie Johnson wins another race early next year, and even has a chance at another Cup title, you might as well sound the Death Knell for NASCAR as far as ratings are concerned. If the ratings are bad this year, and trust me, the 48 team has alot to do with ratings, the coverage will be all but extinct on any major network.<BR/>ESPiN had to struggle with two story lines this year, imagine how they would do with only one story line next year. <BR/>BTW,I got the impression that in the end, Jerry will NOT be back in the booth next year, the way Dale and Andy were saying their "goodbyes" at the end of the broadcast. <BR/>I understand the 48 team wanting to constantly win, and win another championship, but they have to wonder, who cares anymore? The ratings are flat, the stands are empty, and the fans that are left boo Jimmie. In my world 2 + 2 equals 4. They and Rick Hendrick are an equal part responsible to blame for flat ratings, and dismal attendance, along with the economy.<BR/> ESPN just magnified the obvious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-83004839560473839892008-11-17T16:32:00.001-05:002008-11-17T16:32:00.001-05:00JD,Quick thanks for this forum, and for making all...JD,<BR/><BR/>Quick thanks for this forum, and for making all of us better viewers.<BR/><BR/>The ESPN coverage on Sunday was annoying, and I finally resorted to sound off and MRN on the radio. I have never, I repeat never missed a race on TV. I would watch live, or tape (DVR) it and watch it later. In 2008 I missed a total of 4 races in just the chase.<BR/><BR/>Dr. Punch, please teach the girls how to cover pit road. Add him with Dave and the girls and I think that will be the spark needed there.<BR/><BR/>Alan, go and take over PxP. Get a different contract if needed, but with you in the booth with DJ and Andy would be a wonderful team. Also keep the NASCAR NOW Monday show, to keep the continuity from Sunday.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Feinberg, you have the pieces that can make for the best team on TV. Just put the pieces in the right place.<BR/><BR/>Finally clean out the infield studio. I have tried to like Brad, but rah,rah man and I talked to everyone in the infield doesn't cut it for me. You have Evernham to take over the place of a Sprint Cup owner.<BR/><BR/>Rusty. Never liked him as a driver and can't stand him as a commentater. Send him to run his race team and find a driver that can finish on the lead lap.boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294840909356871860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-1523900988641281142008-11-17T16:32:00.000-05:002008-11-17T16:32:00.000-05:00I just hope ESPN do what needs to be done. They ma...I just hope ESPN do what needs to be done. They made good changes between 07 and 08. They need to do more.<BR/><BR/>1. Swap AB and JP.<BR/>2. Do not put Evernham in the booth. Leave him in the Infield in place of Brad, who is no longer needed.<BR/>3. Drop this storyline stuff. Show the race.<BR/>4. Drop the Sportscenter Now inserts and ticker.<BR/>5. Spell Cale's name right.<BR/>6. Give Speed all practises and qualifying for all nascar events live.<BR/>7. Show all "43 of Nascar's finest", not just the top twelve.<BR/>8. Put DJ and Ned together in the booth once a season. Perhaps Darlington. Last time was magical, and showed just how bad JP was.<BR/>9. Finally Feinberg, watch an old ESPN telecast, and give us that. You fixed Nascar Now. Now fix the races.<BR/><BR/>Have a nice off-season everyone. It has been an honour to share it with JD and every single one of you, whether I agree with you or not. What does it say about Nascar that this is the website I go to first for Nascar???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63871915793068625972008-11-17T16:15:00.000-05:002008-11-17T16:15:00.000-05:00What happened to Dr. JP??He seems like he's such a...What happened to Dr. JP??<BR/><BR/>He seems like he's such a downer now. Has he been doing it for too long? Jeez. The only excitement you ever end up hearing is Andy Petree and DJ. Those 2 are an <B>excellent</B> combo. Maybe put the Dr. back on pit road? He never sounded this dull and boring when he was down there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-13292966946893728402008-11-17T15:53:00.000-05:002008-11-17T15:53:00.000-05:00Jojaye, I do think Bestwick, Andy Petree, DJ, Ever...Jojaye, I do think Bestwick, Andy Petree, DJ, Evernham, and basically that racin' crowd have true passion for the sport. Often, only the excitment in DJ's and Andy's voices gave me a clue that anyone in the broadcast booth cared about what was going on during a race. So while the passion is there, they two of them ended up dragging the rest of the broadcast behind them like a dead whale on a beach. How they must feel frustrated. . . and tired.<BR/><BR/>I keep going back to comparing the Speed-televised truck races with ESPN's coverage of everything else. The lights on the trucks in Homestead, with the winner's edge wire-thin, still gets my heart pumping peanut butter. The Cup race felt as if it wasn't... I'm not sure how to describe it. It just wasn't fun. It wasn't terribly interesting, much less exciting, unless you used the radio and other resources to go with the pictures on TV to find out how the rest of the field was faring. There were some terrific stories out there, like Allmendinger and Regan Smith, Marco Ambrose and Robby Gordon. Where were they on ESPN? Right, in the "Who cares?Not ESPN" file.<BR/> Perhaps it's because so much focus was on Carl Edwards. (Sheesh, even I'm sick of hearing him say "copy that, DJ.") I almost felt as if ESPN took the easy way out. Skim the surface of the race, show the great unwashed masses the easy stuff, don't treat this race as if there are 41 cars besides the 48 and 99 on the track.<BR/><BR/> Maybe there are too many whistles and bells going on for the real racing to shine through on ESPN. Give a mike to Bestwick, DJ, Andy, and Evernham (sorry to those who hate him, but he knows his stuff), and let them have at it. Show the whole field. Let them tell the stories of what's happening. They know. Get out of their way. Why have all that talent and not use it?Tracy Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361101058670921686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19096293220269580822008-11-17T15:34:00.000-05:002008-11-17T15:34:00.000-05:00I watch nothing on ESPN beyond NASCAR coverage. E...I watch nothing on ESPN beyond NASCAR coverage. ESPN has no other intersect point for my interests.<BR/><BR/>Another JDBToS JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07006493796055867710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5750467035016846582008-11-17T15:25:00.000-05:002008-11-17T15:25:00.000-05:00Like has been said, one big problem with tme durin...Like has been said, one big problem with tme during coverage has been that all the drivers are not shown at least a couple of times during the 3-4 hours of coverage. <BR/><BR/>I am glad that they made a big deal of Jimmie Johnson this time. I'm a numbers person and have always wondered why they always say Smoke, Kyle, Edwards, Gordon,etc are these terrific drivers. I have never heard JJ mentioned in the same breath as all those. And yet, this century, JJ has won more races that all those guys, hands down.<BR/><BR/>I think a lot of complaints become white noise. I blog on other sports, and trust me, people complain about everything!<BR/><BR/>Congratulations to JJ and I look forward to February on Fox. I love them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27971524830250334512008-11-17T15:14:00.000-05:002008-11-17T15:14:00.000-05:00jojayeDitto to your post. Nuff saidStricklanfanNo ...jojaye<BR/><BR/>Ditto to your post. Nuff said<BR/><BR/>Stricklanfan<BR/><BR/>No wonder Steve Byrnes wants to know who you are...you should be in TV production or teaching it. :)<BR/><BR/>Been great to have everybody here garner info from.<BR/><BR/>I might have paid attention to 30 laps at most yesterday. Was multitasking on laptop, internet went out on three computers. Called ISP and signals were good but told to return old modem and get a new one...we did and after an hour of moving huge computer desk with all the cords attached, and heated discussions, and downloading software for NEW MODEM...found out later there was an outage..and we got a call back at the end of the race it was a ROUTER ISSUE. So our running around was for naught as there were intermittent issues for hours...sigh.<BR/><BR/>So all this disruption during the race for me and Steelers game was for naught.<BR/><BR/>But last year or with TNT, I would have NEVER left the house during the last race of the SEASON to deal with computer issues.<BR/><BR/>Sign of the junk on PSPN. And honestly, did we really need the graphic on the ticker CONSTANTLY telling us the points of Carl and JJ ??? LUDICROUS.<BR/><BR/>Again thanks for the site JD and sorry you were so busy this weekend.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and RED, about those surveys, think they feed them to mushrooms?? Just kidding....sigh.<BR/><BR/>What else can one say...many did not watch the race yesterday and I did do the pre shows and post race shows but did not want to follow the SCRIPT of ABC's "coverage".<BR/><BR/>The Truck series ending was a Fairytale. Good stuff.Sophiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789033556426951026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-32422291682011708912008-11-17T14:55:00.000-05:002008-11-17T14:55:00.000-05:00I have deliberately waited to post this so long to...I have deliberately waited to post this so long to digest last nights alleged coverage. <BR/><BR/>Last night with the Championship "coverage" was symptomatic of the entire lot of "coverage".<BR/><BR/>It was an unmitigated mess -<BR/>awful,just awful.<BR/><BR/>Pit reporter who kept on talking after trouble was said - she should have shut up.<BR/>Lazy pit reporters asking other drivers what do you think of JJ? umm they just lost to Carl ( in the race) & lost the Championship to JJ. To a man each was gracious.<BR/>More than I could have, or would have done.<BR/><BR/>espn has shown time and again it, as an entity, does not get nor want to try to get NASCAR. Or any motor sports for that matter. I was amazed that Tony Kornheiser came out and said the things he did. I could not believe what I heard, yet on the rebroadcast there it was.<BR/>Scorn & dismissive contempt of a sport covered by his own employer. <BR/><BR/>The play by play was awful. Put Doc where he belongs next year, and put a real play by play person in the seat. <BR/><BR/>All I want to see is the live racing on the screen. Racing covered up with pre taped bits, full screen graphics and such is not race coverage.<BR/>Which brings me to the incompetent who placed Cales name under JJ's.<BR/>That was wrong & rude.<BR/><BR/>NASCAR & espn need to get the races started earlier,period.<BR/>So we never go thru another bait & switch set up. <BR/><BR/>I feel,as a fan, we have been given the crumbs & told it was a feast. For 2 seasons this has been all about what espn wants. How about us? The viewer, consumers who advertisers want to get us to see the ads, and purchase the goods & services they offer?<BR/><BR/>I will not bother to watch NN tonight,to see the year end show. It'll be taped and if reviews are good I may watch it. I remember last year how JJ was left alone on the set of espn, while Erik K. was doing other bits. <BR/><BR/>I'm hoping to have sirius next year - if not I'll watch something else unless wholesale changes are made. <BR/><BR/>We'll know by what happens with the N'Wide series.<BR/><BR/>As a lot, espn telecasts lack knowledge & a true passion for the sport & because of that<BR/>I do not hold out much hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-2292325815464983702008-11-17T14:54:00.000-05:002008-11-17T14:54:00.000-05:00Hey Red,I got a NASCAR Fan Council survey as well,...Hey Red,<BR/><BR/>I got a NASCAR Fan Council survey as well, but mine was focused on TNT instead of Fox.rb218https://www.blogger.com/profile/11736975665181739161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-1133198943662462552008-11-17T13:41:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:41:00.000-05:00West Coast Diane Said:Below is an email I sent to ...West Coast Diane Said:<BR/><BR/>Below is an email I sent to ESPN rgarding their NASCAR coverage. They only allow so many characters, so it was hard to frame all the issues. Also, used up a few at least thanking them for some of the changes made at beginning of their season (Rusty out of the booth!!)<BR/><BR/>For the life of me I can't understand why 2 entities, NASCAR and ESPN, who have the same objective: Get sponsors to support them by getting the maximum number of viewers to watch an exciting and entertaining product, can't figure out the formula!<BR/><BR/>To ESPN:<BR/><BR/>"First, thank u for changes u did make. However, u need to keep working on it. The great Dr. P needs to be removed from the booth. U need separate teams for NW and Cup. U can pay for it by doing the following. Get rid of the Infield booth or only use 2 people, Dr.P, Ray E?? Get experienced pit road reporters. Cut out extraneous crap,(FOX too). The easiest thing to do: WATCH TRUCK RACES ON SPEED! LISTEN TO BOOTH on FOX (watch track not monitor). Less is more. No fancy graphics. Just show racing. <BR/><BR/>JD, you have hinted changes are coming. I hope so and hope they are far ranging, not some token effort.<BR/><BR/>Thank you again for this blog and all you do to help us NASCAR fans retain our sanity and get changes made.<BR/><BR/>DianeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-66596073481669176992008-11-17T13:40:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:40:00.000-05:00Let me throw these thoughts out:Cut the number of ...Let me throw these thoughts out:<BR/><BR/>Cut the number of races to finish the season before football starts (this can be done by simply eliminating the return dates at most tracks, then rework the TV contract to feature one primary over-the-air network that shows most of the races and no more than two associate networks. Answer: Nothing can be done until the current TV contract expires.<BR/><BR/>If lowering ticket prices is out of the question, shorten most of the races and run the trucks before or after the cup race to give the fans two good races for the price of one. No one is showing up for truck races anyway. This is good way of giving them and their sponsors some publicity. Answer: Nothing can be done until the current TV contract expires. <BR/><BR/>Get rid of the Chase. Replace with Championship points awarded only to the top ten finishers with no bonus points. If you want Championship points, you have to run like a champion. Answer: Probably can’t be changed until the current TV contract expires.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-4221847929581016482008-11-17T13:34:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:34:00.000-05:00Haven't said it yet. Thanks JD for this wonderful...Haven't said it yet. Thanks JD for this wonderful forum to voice our opinions and discuss this sport we love.<BR/><BR/>can't wait till next season!The Loose Wheelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06048709313597675807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-75015677200118633282008-11-17T13:33:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:33:00.000-05:00The race was decent, but poor in comparison to Pho...The race was decent, but poor in comparison to Phoenix. Remember back to Friday night, Rick Allen's call to the finish in contrast to JP's?<BR/><BR/>Big difference. Things of that nature are important in adding to the broadcast because this is the last race of the season...if your going to get it right this is the race to do it!<BR/><BR/>I dont expect NASCAR to get respect from the rest of the sports world...I could honestly, honestly care less if PTI or ATH talks about the race or JJ. I still watch those shows and they do fine by me. Consider it this way, given the mess we've had with NASCAR on ESPN this season, do you really want more components of ESPN covering the sport making a larger mockery of it all?<BR/><BR/>Thats why I love the NHRA on ESPN...its under the radar and first rate coverage with people who know their roles and do them to perfection. NASCAR, its a different story. Too many people trying to talk about the same thing is tiring.<BR/><BR/>They make the FOX broadcast group look small!<BR/><BR/>SPEED had 4 guys in the booth and made it work where ESPN had 3 and still struggle!<BR/><BR/>The laundry list of what needs to be done this offseason is too long to delve into, but it needs to start with cutting the fat from their broadcast crew, then putting the correct play by play person in place.The Loose Wheelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06048709313597675807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-24875956535779343862008-11-17T13:20:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:20:00.000-05:00John - I want to add my thanks to all those above ...John - I want to add my thanks to all those above who have thanked you for all that you do for us. And again, I'll say that ESPN should have AB, Jarrett and Petree in the booth with Evernham and Punch in the pre-race booth and rid themselves of Rusty and Brad, the latter of whom adds nothing but cheerleading - and cut down on the pre-race broadcast - way too long and lets alot of things that are important slide by the wayside. Unless and until ESPN makes some serious changes in the off season, we will have more of the same horrible content and coverage. On another note: John - will you continue during the off-season???? God but I hope so!!!! Thank you again - you're the best!chasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10751889821381250237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-864417949696910662008-11-17T12:49:00.000-05:002008-11-17T12:49:00.000-05:00Hey, Red -- it will be interesting to see if I get...Hey, Red -- it will be interesting to see if I get one to do as well. Interesting that they are only asking about Fox -- I guess I'll fill out what I think about ESPN and TNT in the "other comments" side.<BR/><BR/>As to what they do with the surveys -- I think it may be stick them where the sun don't shine! LOLGinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-50623489862714248002008-11-17T12:39:00.000-05:002008-11-17T12:39:00.000-05:00ok, so it didn't ask about all nascar on televisio...ok, so it didn't ask about all nascar on television partners: only fox. wanted rankings for various on-air talent in re: add to, no impact, detract from the experience, etc. moved to open-ended questions of what did you like? dislike about fox coverage.<BR/><BR/>took me longer to give my thoughts (always the first screen for fan council) than for the rest of the survey. once the survey was submitted, i got kicked over to nascar.com instead of being returned to my email program, where i started. sorta presumptious on their part, in my opinion: if i wanted to add another click to nascar.com, i'd do it myself, thank you.<BR/><BR/>wonder what they do with the information?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63704779126135594962008-11-17T11:58:00.000-05:002008-11-17T11:58:00.000-05:00hey, lookee here: nascar fan council wants my opin...hey, lookee here: nascar fan council wants my opinions on nascar on television! well, THIS should be fun!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-49188526556324913782008-11-17T11:46:00.000-05:002008-11-17T11:46:00.000-05:00It's probably extremely wishful thinking but I hop...It's probably extremely wishful thinking but I hope that Homestead was the end of the failed experiment that has been the return of NASCAR on ESPN/ABC.<BR/><BR/>They have added absolutely no positives to this sport in the last two years, but have contributed a countless amount of negatives:<BR/><BR/>- the on-air productions during the races, qualifying, and practice sessions are a complete joke thanks to the ESPN scripted, ignore-the-track model of broadcasting <BR/><BR/>- the sport is still mocked across the board on all ESPN platforms<BR/><BR/>- 6 years of Cup/Nationwide races on NBC/Fox: ZERO single-day races were dumped to another network while the races were in-progress<BR/><BR/>- 2 years of Cup/Nationwide races on ABC: THREE single-day races were dumped to another network while the races were in-progress<BR/><BR/>- ESPN buys the rights to Cup practice sessions they have no room for and either doesn't televise them at all or airs many of them either joined-in-progress or tape-delayed by several hours, instead of doing the right thing FOR THE FANS and letting Speed Channel carry them live and in full-length in their absence<BR/><BR/>- ESPN has stabbed several drivers in the back for no apparent reason<BR/><BR/>JD, I respect your thought that someone at ESPN needs to mandate the network to "fake" respect/interest in this sport, but to me that's just not good enough. To me ESPN clearly does not like this sport, respect this sport, or care for the people in it or the fans watching it at home. I don't want them to "fake" anything. If the true feeling in Bristol, CT is that NASCAR is a laughable minor-league sport that they only have for ratings, then they just need to move on and stick to sports they do respect, in my opinion.<BR/><BR/>It is not fair for the sanctioning body, for the men and women inside the sport, and most of all for the fans watching at home for our sport to be on a television network that doesn't respect us. We deserve better than the red headed stepchild status we currently hold in Bristol. I don't want ESPN to tell their employees to keep their anti-NASCAR sentiments to themselves, I want the sport to be on a network that doesn't have this widespread anti-NASCAR sentiment in the first place.stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.com