tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post1542746581850415061..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: NASCAR Discovers The InternetDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-24254714959699162702011-12-21T04:17:09.438-05:002011-12-21T04:17:09.438-05:00Someone they put in charge in the website must be ...Someone they put in charge in the website must be worse on how NASCAR.com is now. That's the problem.Air Ride Partshttp://www.x2industries.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-70264167738287441112011-12-20T19:47:39.286-05:002011-12-20T19:47:39.286-05:00This is move in itself shows how the situation in ...This is move in itself shows how the situation in the motorsports world has changed. At the very least it is apparent that they realize that without the digital rights they have a very weak bargaining position when the negotiating starts to replace the existing TV contracts. <br /><br />Certainly it will be appealing to the networks, by opening up new venues to deliver content to a broader market.More important it will be appealing to sponsors, who have been voting with their checkbooks as to the attractiveness of Nascar as a brand.<br /><br />Ultimately this can only benefit Nascar. Whether the increased revenue is enough to justify the cost remains to be seen. But my guess is that it will ultimately be a windfall to the stockholders.<br /><br />And after all they are the ones that matter, right?Russnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-87625569286779312852011-12-20T16:51:46.953-05:002011-12-20T16:51:46.953-05:00I really don't have a dog in this fight, since...I really don't have a dog in this fight, since I won't bother even trying to watch a race on anything other than my 42" flat screen. I'm one of those who choose not to buy every electronic gadget known to man, and have no plans to do so. I'd be perfectly content with just getting good TV coverage of all the races, not a 'scripted' version of what someone else thinks I want to see. While I would be grateful for a less trashy Nascar.com website, I can find what I want to know elsewhere (like here!).Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03233133246348697023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63541328364600341382011-12-20T15:40:51.810-05:002011-12-20T15:40:51.810-05:00From someone who is tired of paying up the nose fo...From someone who is tired of paying up the nose for cable and seeing their bill increase often, I would bet there are others like me who would pay to watch the streaming of races. It would mean I can get rid of my cable. So with what money I'm saving, I can pay for the races online.<br /><br />It would be another source of revenue for Nascar and would also get more exposure to their favorite demographic, the 20 something crowd, who almost all have some kind of gadget on the go that can access the web. <br /><br />I'm very interested to see how this plays outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-86388430738532875822011-12-20T14:48:14.754-05:002011-12-20T14:48:14.754-05:00Russ, I don't believe anyone in that discussio...Russ, I don't believe anyone in that discussion said TV was *more* important. They simply said it was important for the people who do not have, or choose NOT to access the other avenues you mention to have it available. I personally think this is a great move., but it would not be the answer for that particular set of people I don't expect everything for free, so if they find a reasonable way to work online options out for the fans, it will be great, and this is a good first step. Long time to wait though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5126563019286082462011-12-20T14:38:44.743-05:002011-12-20T14:38:44.743-05:00Editorial content has been a big topic of discussi...Editorial content has been a big topic of discussion over on the TDP blog page.<br /><br />Monte Dutton has said he believes it is the key issue. Marketing guys in charge of the news just does not usually work out well.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-15801172708015712062011-12-20T14:33:04.381-05:002011-12-20T14:33:04.381-05:00This is definitely the way to go. Major League Bas...This is definitely the way to go. Major League Baseball has the best model and they make a killing off of it.<br /><br />There are a couple issues here though.<br /><br />#1 Editorial control - NASCAR has been notorious for the intimidation & games they've played with the independent press over the years. I have no confidence that they won't turn NASCAR.com into a glorified PR outlet.<br /><br />#2 Mobile - Sprint is still the big elephant in the room. The key features of any mobile app would be live telemetry & live race weekend streaming content. I just don't see Sprint giving up exclusivity in this area.uncredentialedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11436452929578443121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-55195957550170162472011-12-20T14:08:43.912-05:002011-12-20T14:08:43.912-05:00I think NASCAR is trying to buy back the online ri...I think NASCAR is trying to buy back the online rights to make the upcoming bidding for the rights to broadcast races more attractive. The selling of the online rights lowered the TV broadcast value of NASCAR. The tens of millions of dollars to buy the rights is small compared to the increase in the value in the upcoming bidding "war".OSBORNKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265276174788619591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-26435257206977326722011-12-20T12:56:26.237-05:002011-12-20T12:56:26.237-05:00The Super Bowl will be available online and on sma...The Super Bowl will be available online and on smartphones. Match that, NASCAR!Bobby, who believes NASCAR is rudderlessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63100283982577101572011-12-20T12:39:44.900-05:002011-12-20T12:39:44.900-05:00I have not been to Nascar.com for years,poor desig...I have not been to Nascar.com for years,poor design.To many other outlets that provide good coverage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23711325679440006492011-12-20T12:29:24.371-05:002011-12-20T12:29:24.371-05:00I'm with the others about bf/nascar charging f...I'm with the others about bf/nascar charging fans to recoup their losses. This wouldn't be happening if there wasn't money to be made.Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-44485972897124776602011-12-20T12:27:50.752-05:002011-12-20T12:27:50.752-05:00I agree with Larry. I also agree with Russ.
Sure ...I agree with Larry. I also agree with Russ.<br /><br />Sure it would be nice to have a lot more internet content, but the internet isn't the end all to NASCAR's problems. In order to solve NASCAR's problems, you need to start with a clean slate which means replacing just about all the honchos NASCAR currently has and bringing in somebody who is smart enough to know how to handle both the internet & television products. <br /><br />Right now, the France's are trying to buy up all the ISC stock they don't control. That smells of desperation. Now, they want all their digital rights and products. I may be wrong but to me this sounds like they're trying to get all their eggs in one basket in order to make a sale of NASCAR, ISC, or both. <br /><br />NASCAR's TV ratings don't really justify any major network committing to a NASCAR channel. And if what the networks have said in the past about the difficulty of selling commerical time is true, that makes the idea of a dedicated NASCAR channel implausible because unless they run infomercials all night, the odds of normal mainstream advertisers coming onboard are extremely slim. Especially companies who have had past dealings with the France family.<br /><br />And just what all would be on a NASCAR only channel? We'd get pretty much what we've got now on Speed, Fox, & BSPN. Then what? NASCAR Media Group isn't going to want to show races from the past as fans would be demanding to see the same sort of racing today. Do they air "The Best of Brian France's Speeches" to fill time slots? The True History of NASCAR? Racing movies like "Last American Hero", "Stroker Ace", and "White Lightnin'"?<br /><br />While NASCAR tends to follow the lead of the WWE in a lot of aspsects because they're both after the same demographic groups, I don't see NASCAR having their own dedicated network like the one the WWE will launch in January 2012. And I don't see NASCAR making much of an improvement on their own web site. They might be able to post things that are currently being sent out to the media from the NASCAR PR site, but then what? They're going to have a tough time competing with Jayski because they won't post any articles which cast even the slightest doubt on what's happening on the track or in the garage. They won't post anything which questions the leadership or officiating. So we end up with a plain vanilla product that is little more than an extension of NASCAR's PR Department which is sort of what NASCAR.com is currently.The Mad Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-91826073084914143042011-12-20T11:18:17.888-05:002011-12-20T11:18:17.888-05:00Never thought I'd see the day! I'd underst...Never thought I'd see the day! I'd understand reasonable pricing for tv/radio streaming. Every sport charges for it. But the alternative of paying for it is the current nothing on NASCAR.com right now. With the current tv contract, the best Turner could provide during the races was cartoon cars on RaceView and moving bubbles on TrackPass.Buschseries61noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48822645882273301512011-12-20T11:07:01.319-05:002011-12-20T11:07:01.319-05:00I sort of feel the same way Larry does as I rememb...I sort of feel the same way Larry does as I remember the day years ago when NASCAR put driver radio streams behind a pay-wall when they had previously been free. Considering little has been done by NASCAR to help fans during The Great Recession, I fear they will use this as a money grab.<br /><br />Possibly the best thing to come out of this will be something fairly simple -- a truly sensible redesign of the NASCAR.com website. That thing has been a joke since the late 1990s and they've never gotten it right. Other sports that used to be equally bad finally got caught up (the NHL and IndyCar come to mind) but NASCAR still lags behind both in content and especially ease of finding information. As somebody that has done a little Web design, I swear that the Turner folks make it look like somebody ate a coding textbook and then just slapped up whatever they barfed back up. :-sKoHoSohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457687879505057220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9722180093281908532011-12-20T10:58:05.153-05:002011-12-20T10:58:05.153-05:00This is a good move by NASCAR for sure, and no dou...This is a good move by NASCAR for sure, and no doubt it will cost the fans some cash,but for the fans who live in the NASCAR only world, no other pro sport gives it away for free either. NFL right now will give week 17 and the playoffs feed for $9.99. NHL charges $19.99 for an app that allows radio feeds, live tv cut ins, but not live feeds, and access to 15 minute game tape post game, $160.00 for video for a season.I paid i believe $9.99 for the MLB app that included radio feeds for the season, quite reasonable i thought.The video app was $150.00 i think. So if you expect all of a sudden free unlimited live streaming of everything NASCAR, you might be a bit disappointed.The pricing will be the difference between money hungry NASCAR and fan friendly NASCAR.<br /> And the fact that Sprint is the series sponsor could have implications as to who gets what and at what cost. Bottom line is this is a big plus, but have realistic expectations people.17972 B. C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15468839142062707318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-86108941556069686582011-12-20T10:48:20.262-05:002011-12-20T10:48:20.262-05:00Several days ago I got flamed on this very issue. ...Several days ago I got flamed on this very issue. I dared to suggest that a Nascar Channel on TV was not as important as webcasts, and the social media, Facebook and Twitter.<br /><br />If Nascar recognizes it's importance going forward, and is willing to shell out millions rather than letting the current agreement expire than there must be something to it. <br /><br /> Wonder what those people who were so quick to say that TV was all that was wanted or needed are saying in response to this news.Russnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-69344456520505973412011-12-20T10:39:26.220-05:002011-12-20T10:39:26.220-05:00Well, I'll believe it when I see it and like L...Well, I'll believe it when I see it and like Larry, I believe that NASCAR will do its best to recoup all its money from the fans.<br /><br />What I'm willing to pay will depend on the product. It bettr be more than cartoon cars racing around a pretend track.<br /><br />thanks for the info, JD, it will be interesting to watch. Maybe the yahoos in Daytona are listening at least a little.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-73555976623971291842011-12-20T10:13:23.594-05:002011-12-20T10:13:23.594-05:00I agree with Larry 100%.
Got to think the next TV...I agree with Larry 100%.<br /><br />Got to think the next TV deal will be less than 500M per year.Ziggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575751456094003292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23831060724588329832011-12-20T10:09:37.160-05:002011-12-20T10:09:37.160-05:00Chances are, it IS going to cost you to view the o...Chances are, it IS going to cost you to view the online content. Nascar is a business afterall. However, it may not be a direct cost. Think of how Nascar could help its smaller teams with sponsorship by saying that not only do we have tv and radio, we have internet available to showcase your product. It may make the difference between a midlevel company saying no and yes to sponsoring a team. I'm sure that there will probably be more surveys out there, but that's how the companies can judge how effective its advertising is.<br />Its about time that Nascar buys back its rights. It takes money to make money.Fed UPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35461141327591408862011-12-20T09:22:07.790-05:002011-12-20T09:22:07.790-05:00Interesting (typical?) that there isn't anythi...Interesting (typical?) that there isn't anything about this on NASCAR.com this morning.KudzuCarlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109217342383418151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-51136365218315613532011-12-20T09:17:58.268-05:002011-12-20T09:17:58.268-05:00Sounds good so far. But as others have said, NASCA...Sounds good so far. But as others have said, NASCAR will probably have their hand out looking to make up that money they'll be paying to Turner.MRM4https://www.blogger.com/profile/04045747192945960087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35785991165293617742011-12-20T09:11:10.153-05:002011-12-20T09:11:10.153-05:00Larry I agree with you I have a lot of cynicism re...Larry I agree with you I have a lot of cynicism regarding Nascar! Plus I take everything they say with a grain of salt. And my word verification is lies!Vicky Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13084198036514255332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74081621719836236782011-12-20T07:59:32.298-05:002011-12-20T07:59:32.298-05:00Larry above, beat me to it.
If they charge for it...Larry above, beat me to it.<br /><br />If they charge for it, they won't be getting any of my $$s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34558761105655187312011-12-20T07:17:34.651-05:002011-12-20T07:17:34.651-05:00Wow, I would have never thought bf would part with...Wow, I would have never thought bf would part with his money. I cannot wait to see how this plays out. MCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-69655045233485757572011-12-20T06:04:49.499-05:002011-12-20T06:04:49.499-05:00NASCAR does nothing for free. We will pay throug...NASCAR does nothing for free. We will pay through the nose. They will tease us with some freebies then try to suck us dry.<br /><br />Sorry for my cynicism.larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07719301959106609734noreply@blogger.com