tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post1629746931335080037..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: SPEED's "Tradin' Paint" Suddenly Very CalmDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29738919238887510992008-03-20T23:26:00.000-04:002008-03-20T23:26:00.000-04:00I know I’m running the risk of being too verbose h...I know I’m running the risk of being too verbose here, but I agree with you 100%!4ever3https://www.blogger.com/profile/18025421177685485247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-50522123544794975332008-03-09T20:09:00.000-04:002008-03-09T20:09:00.000-04:00Is the desk new, or just the same one as last year...Is the desk new, or just the same one as last year with the participants seated differently? I am fine with the seating arrangement, but the desk does not accomodate it well.<BR/><BR/>I think it is fair to say that Roush's comments about Toyota last year angered Toyota and they took an opportunity to give back - maybe without thinking things through enough.<BR/><BR/>Bob Margolis has written that the effect of a loose oil sump cover was well known in the garage - but I have yet to see any TV or print reporter ask a complaining driver or crew member whether he had been involved in doing the same, which I find very curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61578047894349231672008-03-09T18:42:00.000-04:002008-03-09T18:42:00.000-04:00John - Not sure about NASCAR RICK, but it doesn't ...John - Not sure about NASCAR RICK, but it doesn't help me. You're talking in circles instead of saying what you wrote about the article was wrong. You didn't critique the performance on tradin' paint, you critiqued the content of the article. Many times. Until posters pointed this out, it had nothing to do with Roberts or the show. Now it does.<BR/><BR/>If you're wrong, admit it instead of writing explanations - the last two comments you posted - that barely make sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-17936131504166274452008-03-09T16:35:00.000-04:002008-03-09T16:35:00.000-04:00You are still not getting it. Last season, Roberts...You are still not getting it. Last season, Roberts was put in the position of jumping-in and pinning down the issues resulting from the answers of the panelists.<BR/><BR/>This season, as with Ryan, he was allowed to offer his spin on his story and nothing was followed-up.<BR/><BR/>Roberts said nothing and Petty addressed another issue totally. You are confusing two issues. One is what Ryan wrote and the other is this TV show.<BR/><BR/>As you can see from my column, the point is how this TV show will present itself this season. Ryan, Jenna Fryer or even Bob Pockrass this season on the show resulted in a very different program.<BR/><BR/>Are viewers going to tune-in to see two people offer their viewpoints and then move on, or debate the issues of the day. One of them what the reason why Ryan chose to publish that story.<BR/><BR/>That help?Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48041597276898046542008-03-09T14:45:00.000-04:002008-03-09T14:45:00.000-04:00I don't like the desk but I do like the split scre...I don't like the desk but I do like the split screen, it lets me see both guys and their reactions at the same time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-72112987624960304182008-03-09T14:33:00.000-04:002008-03-09T14:33:00.000-04:00Wow. Suddenly there's no problem or issue with nat...Wow. Suddenly there's no problem or issue with nate ryan? This is what you responded over on the Nascar Now blog when I asked if Nate Ryan was focus of the day of being blamed for Nascar's ills:<BR/>--------<BR/> "Nate Ryan was on Tradin' Paint and was allowed to skate away without being pressed about his real agenda. The failure of this program to address this issue is contained in the Tradin' Paint column."<BR/>--------<BR/>You first wrote the following in that blog, which is why I posted:<BR/><BR/> "Aust put things in perspective, and actually did a good job of calming down the media frenzy that Nate Ryan and USA Today did a superb job of starting."<BR/>-------------<BR/>You also said more than once upthread that this article was onesided. Now there's nothing wrong with the content. I'm shaking my head right now. When all else fails, I see it's OK to fall back on the this is a TV blog excuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76358813692452940542008-03-09T14:10:00.000-04:002008-03-09T14:10:00.000-04:00Yep, I think maybe the point has gotten skewed a l...Yep, I think maybe the point has gotten skewed a little bit here.<BR/><BR/>This is a TV blog, the point is that on the Tradin' Paint show, we are looking for topics that start discussions. There is no problem of issue with Nate Ryan, he is a veteran reporter.<BR/><BR/>The issue is about TV. When you have someone on like that who is high profile and now making news with a big story, you should talk about it. <BR/><BR/>Nothing wrong with the content, just that is should have been discussed as well as the reason why it came about. <BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53481145883346525142008-03-09T14:05:00.000-04:002008-03-09T14:05:00.000-04:00JD, you read the full USA Today article right? Bec...JD, you read the full USA Today article right? Because Ryan wrote that Roush denied that the #99 team did anything intentional and also had comments from Larry McReynolds in which he said there's no way to know if it actually was intentional or not. In addition, there's a link to another article about the Edwards situation that has comments from Geoff Smith from Roush. It seems to me that Ryan did give readers the other side of the story, however, the main point of the article is the comments by Lee White so naturally that's what the majority of the article is going to be about. I agree with anon at 1:23 and I see very little in that article that is commentary, at least from Ryan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-285425464602230052008-03-09T13:42:00.000-04:002008-03-09T13:42:00.000-04:00I liked the show and thought that Nate and Kyle di...I liked the show and thought that Nate and Kyle did a good job. They stated their opinions, shared their thoughts and either agreed or disagreed in a professional manner. It was fun to watch. <BR/><BR/>I do agree with comments about Nate's posture and his shoes, though. It was pretty distracting. And the split screen stuff. That was weird. I'd rather just see all three of them on one screen. And if someone wants to wear comfy shoes that don't really go with the outfit they're wearing, put them under or behind the desk so we can't see it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-618521585124636222008-03-09T13:23:00.000-04:002008-03-09T13:23:00.000-04:00Your statement that USA TODAY presented one side o...Your statement that USA TODAY presented one side of the Edwards/Roush/Toyota story is <B>your column's opinion. Not fact. </B><BR/><BR/>We don't have to accept it as such and some of us won't. I do not agree that the story was commentary presented as news. I do not agree with your <B>opinion.</B><BR/><BR/>By the way, I have a master's degree in journalism and worked in the industry as a hard news reporter for a number of years. Many of us in the United States (and abroad) have a journalism background. Having studied journalism doesn't make your opinion into truth, nor does it make your opinions any more valid than those opinions expressed by any of your readers - whether they have a similar background or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38371652001572647572008-03-09T13:02:00.000-04:002008-03-09T13:02:00.000-04:00As a journalism major in college, I learned there ...As a journalism major in college, I learned there was a big difference between news and commentary.<BR/><BR/>That is why I try to make sure to call my content "columns." <BR/><BR/>Both in NASCAR Now on Friday and in USA Today, only one side of an issue was reported and with lots of commentary presented as news. <BR/><BR/>Bottom line, it sold papers.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57009537016499498012008-03-09T12:34:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:34:00.000-04:00I agree about not missing the "angry Kyle"." Becau...I agree about not missing the "angry Kyle"." Because of his behavior the last couple of years when a "bad" story comes out I figure that he's just trying to set himself up for a cushy executive job inside NASCAR once he retires. He's just become such a yes man that it makes sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-31861124160134658272008-03-09T12:24:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:24:00.000-04:00It's as if USA Today is supposed to be a NASCAR ch...It's as if USA Today is supposed to be a NASCAR cheerleader, as posted above, purely because it is influential and widely circulated.<BR/><BR/>March 9, 2008 11:35 AM<BR/><BR/>In some people's thinking, I believe that may be the case. I'm a NASCAR fanatic (aren't we all?) and I've got Word files on my laptop where I save all the interesting articles during a season, because a lot of them disappear after a few weeks and aren't on websites anymore. It's also interesting to read them again after the season is over to see what the news was -so much news it's easy to forget. <BR/><BR/>I saved the USA Today article (11/15/2006) which Brian France disliked, written by Nate Ryan, I thought it was excellent and read it a few times because it talked to so many people (including France and Earnhardt Jr) and covered so many issues.<BR/><BR/>That article was also memorable because it's the only time I can remember Brian France criticizing a particular article on TV - on RaceDay. Him doing that also got written about. What was interesting is that he didn't say it was inaccurate, he said the article was "done in incredibly bad taste" and "the timing was wrong" because it was written the week of Homestead. Our local and excellent sports columnist in Charlotte, Tom Sorenson, completely mocked France for complaining, wisely pointing out that it's not the reporter's job to save a news article until after the championship is over. (I saved those two articles, too.)<BR/><BR/>So I do think some people are more sensitive to USA Today writing an alledgedly not-positive article because they want all the NASCAR news in there to be positive -likely because sponsors and such read it. I think USA Today should be treated like every other media, especially when the content is accurate.<BR/><BR/>PS: interesting quote from Kyle in that USA Today article:<BR/>"Some observers, such as third-generation driver Kyle Petty, say the season's length — from February to the Sunday before Thanksgiving — can be interminable. "I'm an idiot, and this is all I've ever done, but my God, 36 freaking races a year? Even I'm not going to tune in every week," Petty says."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29443478439166991292008-03-09T12:23:00.000-04:002008-03-09T12:23:00.000-04:00I don't understand why Nate Ryan should have been ...I don't understand why Nate Ryan should have been "called out" or why his story is considered sensationalized. Lee White presumably made the comments of his own free will and Ryan reported what he said. Had Ryan not reported those comments, which were news-worthy, then he would have been doing a disservice to his audience. Multiple others including Elliott Sadler and Dale Earnhardt, Jr. echoed White's comments that what the #99 team did was blatant cheating, a performance advantage and something that other teams have tested or tried before. Were those comments also sensationalized? I hope Ryan and others in the motorsports media continue to seek out comments that are actual opinions as opposed to meaningless fluff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-54348836720278791132008-03-09T11:35:00.000-04:002008-03-09T11:35:00.000-04:00I have not heard him say things that are not flatt...I have not heard him say things that are not flattering to the sport should be held back.<BR/><BR/>JD<BR/>-------------------<BR/>But that's the impression you yourself are giving; that the reporter on Trading Paint shouldn't have "stirred up trouble" with his story that you say presents one side (I don't agree, and I read it the morning it was online). It's as if USA Today is supposed to be a NASCAR cheerleader, as posted above, purely because it is influential and widely circulated.<BR/><BR/>I agree with poster 10:41:<BR/><I>Petty claims they're not true. <BR/><BR/>The writers, as you know, don't fabricate the stories or the quotes. Given KP's displayed temper and anger with stories he simply doesn't like--like the one this week with the Toyota exec quote (he doesn't say it's factually incorrect, he just didn't like it being reported)--I'll trust the writers over him.</I> <BR/><BR/>Well put. I hope the "Powerful print media" keeps doing their job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-73462103688034420222008-03-09T11:17:00.000-04:002008-03-09T11:17:00.000-04:00NASCAR performance as usual was on their game. Thi...NASCAR performance as usual was on their game. This is the first time anyone actually used a visual of the oil tank/lid. Ive been wondering all along why isnt anyone showing the fans what this thing looks like?<BR/><BR/>In Regard to Tradin Paint...disapointing is the only word I can use to discribe this years show. Set up etc. should be revamped, listen to the fans tradin paint and things will only get better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-65334613710092573562008-03-09T10:45:00.000-04:002008-03-09T10:45:00.000-04:00I've been watching Nascar Performance for the past...I've been watching Nascar Performance for the past few years and have very much enjoyed it and learned a lot. Chad and Bootie were not having as much fun as they usually do but between the cold and the topic it wasn't a fun day. With Chad's history he could not afford to express his opinion about oops vs intent but he still can explain which he did very well. This is why I think he will be a good choice for TWIN, he can explain very technical things in a way that I can understand. Bootie doesn't have the history issue and can say what he thinks which he does on a regular basis which is one the reasons I like him. He also would be good on TWIN because he also explains things well. Nascar Performance is one the most under-rated Nascar related shows on SpeedNewracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16324764517098771035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-59990987531599341682008-03-09T10:41:00.000-04:002008-03-09T10:41:00.000-04:00JD--Petty claims they're not true. The writers, as...JD--<BR/><BR/>Petty <B>claims</B> they're not true. <BR/><BR/>The writers, as you know, don't fabricate the stories or the quotes. Given KP's displayed temper and anger with stories he simply doesn't like--like the one this week with the Toyota exec quote (he doesn't say it's factually incorrect, he <I>just didn't like it being reported</I>)--I'll trust the writers over him. <BR/><BR/>He doesn't have to come out and say the words you suggest--his attitude toward stories he doesn't like speaks volumes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-31414662647473246282008-03-09T10:36:00.000-04:002008-03-09T10:36:00.000-04:00Bootie Barker didn't pull any punches the slot bef...Bootie Barker didn't pull any punches the slot before, on NASCAR Performance. His take was that was too good a team for that to fall off accidentally. <BR/><BR/>I agree with you that Trading Paint needs to pick it up if it wants to keep me as a viewer.dwighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16804227666271358860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5087257849348695212008-03-09T10:34:00.000-04:002008-03-09T10:34:00.000-04:00The NASCAR print media is a powerful bunch. What t...The NASCAR print media is a powerful bunch. What they report steers the sport in the public eye.<BR/><BR/>Petty has said he is upset by things being reported that are not true. I have not heard him say things that are not flattering to the sport should be held back.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-41803011762991306112008-03-09T10:29:00.000-04:002008-03-09T10:29:00.000-04:00It's pretty clear that Kyle Petty would prefer the...It's pretty clear that Kyle Petty would prefer the motorsports media only cover the "happy" topics and just ignore anything he thinks is "negative" about the sport.<BR/><BR/>That's not repoting, that's cheerleading, and it isn't their job, whether Kyle likes it or not. <BR/><BR/>But at least he wasn't a jerk like he was last year when anyone disagreed with him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-36226799624322391362008-03-09T10:28:00.000-04:002008-03-09T10:28:00.000-04:00I like having KP and the guest sitting across from...I like having KP and the guest sitting across from each other but the desk itself doesn't work. I noticed that last week because it is especially bad for women who sit with their legs together but evidently even the men can't get close enough to look comfortable. I was also expecting a little more excitement from this show especially when I realized who was the guest. All I can say was that spark wasn't there and I was somewhat disappointed. I've see Kyle go off when it wasn't a topic as big as this one and now calmness prevailed, why I don't know.Newracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16324764517098771035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-70881035302371757472008-03-09T10:22:00.000-04:002008-03-09T10:22:00.000-04:00Knaus made the Hammond thing seem amateurish. I kn...Knaus made the Hammond thing seem amateurish. I know Jeff had maybe a broader audience, but Knaus was not political, just matter-of-fact and that is how this should have been presented.<BR/><BR/>I also share the issue of Kyle getting upset, but he worked to contain that and the vast majority of the time, it would up making him look foolish.<BR/><BR/>What I meant to point out was that the topics being selected by the Producer and the way they are politically correct when presented by Roberts makes things soft.<BR/><BR/>Nate Ryan should have been called out for his story and asked the reason he wrote it. Is the media on-hand to stir-up trouble as Kyle believes? Or are they on-hand to report the reality of what is going on in a news context?<BR/><BR/>Ryan's story was just like Angelique Chengelis on Friday's NASCAR Now, one side presented as fact when it was not.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-41978790454646778622008-03-09T08:54:00.000-04:002008-03-09T08:54:00.000-04:00JD, I didn't see Nascar Performance and their stor...JD, I didn't see Nascar Performance and their story on the oil tank cover but I did see Jeff Hammond show it, with explanations, yesterday during practice. He too showed that there are holes for 3 screws and also showed that the part where 2 of the screws could go does fit in a groove and if the single screw is secure can't come off. So there was some good explanation of it on Speed during the day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-91838920669818540642008-03-09T00:44:00.000-05:002008-03-09T00:44:00.000-05:00JD, I have to agree, NASCAR Performance w/Chad Kna...JD, I have to agree, NASCAR Performance w/Chad Knaus did a wonderful explaination of "oil lid gate" without the intent stuff. Just the facts. <BR/><BR/>Lou<BR/>Kingston, NYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com