tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post199172419147002690..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Time To Get Sirius NASCAR Content OnlineDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-24360320959811796912009-08-03T20:26:01.217-04:002009-08-03T20:26:01.217-04:00John, I agree with you that NASCAR's deal with...John, I agree with you that NASCAR's deal with Turner is hurting them both with Turner not doing an adequate job on their end, and that their internet exclusivity rights is very limiting on what others can do.<br /><br />But I just don't see how Turner is involved with the lack of Sirius NASCAR talk shows online. Sirius can't stream the live race play-by-play, but they can't be stopped from talking about NASCAR. Examples: The MRN and PRN weekly talk shows are streamed by local affiliates online (plus podcasts), SPEED and ESPN archive segments from their NASCAR shows on their sites. Rowdy is all over the place.Shootout Stylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10032601487033552346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-12560841409440881812009-08-03T17:07:45.848-04:002009-08-03T17:07:45.848-04:00I would love to get Sirius/XM on the web or phone....I would love to get Sirius/XM on the web or phone. I have XM in my car and pay for it just so I have access to the Nascar Channel.<br /><br />Unfortunately, that means I don't get to listen unless I'm driving or sitting in my driveway. Not an option in the Texas summer! And work would frown if I spent my day in the car.<br /><br />I already pay for it -- wish I had access outside my car.<br /><br />Shawnna in DFW (formerly OKC)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47323903615588173252009-07-31T23:51:22.241-04:002009-07-31T23:51:22.241-04:00LOVE my SIRIUS! Hate my new receiver doesn't ...LOVE my SIRIUS! Hate my new receiver doesn't allow me to bring it inside anymore since I dont have the cash to scoop up a power plug for the house.<br /><br />I wish it was available online because as a paying customer for the product, it would be nice to get this online as well as in the car. Especially if to get it online it adds $3 to my bill each month still its worth it in my eyes.<br /><br />The shows are first rate and the interviews are excellent yet entertaining.<br /><br />Just wish it was available online.The Loose Wheelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06048709313597675807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80353362178447039162009-07-31T22:41:58.030-04:002009-07-31T22:41:58.030-04:00When papers put all their content online, for free...<b>When papers put all their content online, for free, subscriptions tanked and newspapers are disappearing.</b><br /><br />Newspapers never made a substantial revenue from subscription fees.<br /><br />They make (and make) their money off advertising, especially classified ads. <br /><br />Sites like Craiglist soaked up most of that business, which meant less money for the newspapers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34475607212839688322009-07-31T08:53:46.629-04:002009-07-31T08:53:46.629-04:00JD, I hear what you're saying about the state ...JD, I hear what you're saying about the state of the sport right now, but I thing what you are proposing is risky for SIRIUS. If anyone should be called upon to make sacrifices for the good of the sport, it is NASCAR itself, not a struggling satellite radio company, of which channel 128 is just a small part.<br /><br />As many others on here have said, getting access to the channel online would be great, as long as SIRIS is compensated in some fashion. Just think of the newspaper industry for example. When papers put all their content online, for free, subscriptions tanked and newspapers are disappearing.<br /><br />Among the problems in NASCAR you mentioned were the cup drivers dominance in NW and the S&P situation in Trucks. The solution for both of these problems belongs squarely in NASCAR's lap, IMHO.allisongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80665835277262541532009-07-30T22:28:06.649-04:002009-07-30T22:28:06.649-04:00Kenn, some teams who do not make the Chase may tak...Kenn, some teams who do not make the Chase may take their funds and keep them for 2010. Nothing says a team has to show up every race.<br /><br />Dale Jarrett said on NN that we will probably see short fields in the Cup series before the end of the season.<br /><br />Considering where we were two years ago, that is simply amazing.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-10925180465154874812009-07-30T21:59:32.136-04:002009-07-30T21:59:32.136-04:00J.D.,
If anyone didn't believe the sport is i...J.D.,<br /><br />If anyone didn't believe the sport is in trouble, look at the entry list for Pocono on Jayski. There are NO "Go or Go-Homers"! Only 43 cars are entered. I wonder if we'll see short fields for Cup before the end of the season?<br /><br />WCKKenn Fonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381315903467639353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-2527324725334994162009-07-30T21:57:02.832-04:002009-07-30T21:57:02.832-04:00J.D.,
Add my voice to those agreeing with you, al...J.D.,<br /><br />Add my voice to those agreeing with you, although I'm not sure free is fair to those who have been supporting the service all along. Perhaps some token fee, like $9.99 through the rest of the season or $2.50 a month be reasonable.<br /><br />I might sign up for Sirius next year anyway just so I can hear Vin Scully's final season with the Dodgers.<br /><br />West Coast Kenny<br />Alameda, CaliforniaKenn Fonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381315903467639353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-420924645472252862009-07-30T21:34:51.709-04:002009-07-30T21:34:51.709-04:00I am a Sirius subscriber and would have no problem...I am a Sirius subscriber and would have no problem with NASCAR.com offering up ch. 128 for the remainder of the season. I think it's a great short-term solution as well as a chance for the 2 companies to test the waters of a possible long-term deal. As an incentive for Sirius, non-Sirius/XM subscribers could be sent to a "sign-up" page, providing Sirius/XM with a potential marketing opportunity. With a link, NASCAR.com could gain an instant presence on the Sirius/XM website.<br />John, with the economy, sport and interested parties in the condition they are all in, I can't see a down side to trying what you suggest. <b>GREAT IDEA!</b>Allan Wellsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-7591308006701387392009-07-30T19:38:44.078-04:002009-07-30T19:38:44.078-04:00If I could 128 on DirecTV, I'd listen.
Stream...If I could 128 on DirecTV, I'd listen.<br /><br />Streaming on the computer is not viable for me ---- limited bandwidth on dial-up.<br /><br />If I could ever get true high speed connection, I might stream Sirius on my computer.TexasRaceLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11498201182790755768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16411433164087262722009-07-30T19:01:39.500-04:002009-07-30T19:01:39.500-04:00Ken,
I would suggest that you take a step back an...Ken,<br /><br />I would suggest that you take a step back and stop looking at this issue from only your perspective.<br /><br />The entire sport is in trouble. Right here and right now. It's not a rumor, it's not a suggestion...it's reality.<br /><br />What other positive thing could be done to get NASCAR content to fans right now through the Chase without additional cost?<br /><br />This is a short-term solution to a growing problem. Current Sirius users can be rebated, credited or whatever. That's not the problem.<br /><br />We need the folks who have online access during the day by computer and cell phone to get a hold of NASCAR content and be fans down the stretch.<br /><br />Just between us girls, things in TV and radio land are awful. Ratings down at Indy for ESPN and Sirius still struggling to stay afloat as a viable company.<br /><br />Just as I challenged in my column, there are those who will look at the past, not get the message and do nothing. <br /><br />It is only those parties who understand that the very foundation of this sport it being threatened right now who might have the guts to stand up and creat change. <br /><br />Let's clear some things up. Sirius is not selectively choosing channels for the iPod or iPhone. They only have satellite radio agreements with several channels, just like NASCAR. They do not own the online rights to things like Stern. Just that simple.<br /><br />Turner owns all of the interactive rights to NASCAR for many years to come. That is why Sirius is not streamed online. That is why the NASCAR Media Group does not have a website with video content. That is why there is no other online location for official NASCAR content other than NASCAR.com.<br /><br />Good discussion.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-15304818207545855212009-07-30T18:56:38.319-04:002009-07-30T18:56:38.319-04:00For a reasonable fee, I would be very interested i...For a reasonable fee, I would be very interested in Sirius NASCAR online, even if it involved a blackout of the race broadcasts themselves, which are part of the NASCAR.com Track Pass package most of the time. Sometimes I do get the radio broadcasts of N-wide races free off NASCAR.com.Richard in N.C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-89804571826467021982009-07-30T18:01:48.073-04:002009-07-30T18:01:48.073-04:00In a word, YES!In a word, YES!Dannyboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48685062571272210132009-07-30T17:47:31.999-04:002009-07-30T17:47:31.999-04:00One other thing. Does anyone actually know what Tu...One other thing. Does anyone actually know what Turner's rights are related to NASCAR are? Take for example the many MRN and PRN shows available on terrestrial radio. Some of the MRN shows are broadcast on 128. If say, NASCAR Performance Live from MRN (owned by ISC) was going to be on the regular radio and 128, why couldn't Sirius negotiate with MRN to stream this show? Sirius Speedway is produced by MRN EXCLUSIVELY for Sirius as the deep voiced announcer states at the end of every show. Why can't they negotiate to put that on. The other shows (The Morning Drive, Trading Paint, Dialed-in, etc.) are all Sirius produced shows. So why can't they be streamed across the Internet.<br /><br />I can see how the race broadcasts may not be authorized from MRN and PRN under the agreements with Turner, but independently broadcast shows should be able to be put on the Internet.<br /><br />And before someone says that this will not happen because of NASCAR and ISC being essentially a monopoly. I hate that and I know that is a huge problem, so no need to reiterate. With any luck the Kentucky Speedway Lawsuit will cause NASCAR and ISC to become more...separate.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29437084786777315382009-07-30T16:59:17.250-04:002009-07-30T16:59:17.250-04:00I live in Iowa. The Nationwide race is getting l...I live in Iowa. The Nationwide race is getting loads of media coverage in several large newspapers and on the local news in the state and has been for several weeks. They are expecting at least 50,000 people. Newton has been devasted from an employment standpoint with Maytag leaving town a few years ago. It was the town's largest employer. Yet when this race track was built, it has been able to draw many people to the attractions being held there. My point - Kyle, Carl and Kevin might be bringing in some of the fans, but the majority are going to be there to support the local economy and the Midwest's Nationwide "regulars." Its the publicity that has brought the awareness to our state of stock car racing. If more people can be exposed to Nascar by Sirius online coverage, it can only make the financial stability of the teams and sport more sustainable. Just because we are paying for 128 (and I am), let's not be shortsighted. If the sport doesn't survive or the fields are reduced, everyone will be hurt.Marshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01565139936671421188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-49104014858426298522009-07-30T16:41:58.234-04:002009-07-30T16:41:58.234-04:00This has been an issue forever. Fans have been ask...This has been an issue forever. Fans have been asking for this since Sirius Speedway moved from Channel 123 when the NASCAR channel went live. It has been addressed many times on Sirius Speedway. Moody has mentioned this is the topic that produces the most emails to the show. He also stated that Sirius and Turner tried to negotiate the rights but Turner wanted an unrealistic and cost prohibitive fee for the rights. <br /><br />If Sirius did allow for free streaming, I would probably cancel my subscription. The service should be FREE to Sirius subscribers, not anybody.<br /><br />When Sirius started charging for Internet access to their feeds, which were free for years by the way, they provided some very deceptive marketing in my opinion. Leading people to believe everything is available online, which is far from the truth. I refused to pay the extra money for their Internet feeds and still do until NASCAR radio is added.<br /><br />Also of note, the iPod application has the Internet feeds, but not Howard Stern (last I checked), so Sirius is selectively choosing channels by application. This means that if it did come to the Internet subscribers, it might not come to mobile devices. Only available through a PC.<br /><br />This is unfortunate because Sirius really is the only place to get real NASCAR news these days. Speed has abandoned the sport except on race day while ESPN does nothing but promote a few drivers. Oh and they mention every series on 128, not just Cup or Nationwide or Truck. They even get into some of the lower tier series.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-70949447865754482982009-07-30T16:31:10.313-04:002009-07-30T16:31:10.313-04:00My only suggestion was that a realistic look at th...My only suggestion was that a realistic look at the sport would put anyone in a panic mode.<br /><br />Four months of streaming free NASCAR talk radio content on weekdays might just go a long way toward opening up the real world of NASCAR that many of us know to those who only see the current TV shows and races.<br /><br />Current subscribers would be unaffected, except for the fact that the same signal would be made available online for them as well.<br /><br />With all due respect to the NASCAR spin doctors and the vanilla NASCAR reporters on the gravy train, there is trouble brewing right now and we all better pay attention. <br /><br />How many more sponsors looking at limited TV opportunities for exposure on a Sprint Cup Series hood might be ready to leave at the end of the season?<br /><br />How much longer can SPEED pretend that the truck series can start 33 trucks and have 13 pull off before the first fuel stop without a viewer reaction?<br /><br />How many more times can Carl and Kyle show-up, wipeout the Nationwide field and just walk away?<br /><br />The next four months are going to be crucial and we better circle the wagons. If Sirius, Turner and NASCAR all cooperated for a change maybe this idea would come up for discussion. <br /><br />Thanks for the comments, the best perspectives and ideas come from the fans...as usual.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-14923777797329921722009-07-30T14:55:58.858-04:002009-07-30T14:55:58.858-04:00Have you figured that those of us who currently su...<b>Have you figured that those of us who currently subscribe just for channel 128 might drop our subscriptions if we could get it for free?</b><br /><br />Read the post. I'm a current subscriber. I am asking for more usability, not a free product.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-117948117949647992009-07-30T14:27:05.511-04:002009-07-30T14:27:05.511-04:00Satellite Radio is fascinating.
On one hand, it&#...Satellite Radio is fascinating.<br /><br />On one hand, it's awesome content. I've been listening to SIRIUS NASCAR 128 since '04.<br /><br />I have 2 disappointments; The surprising amount of ads, and trees.<br /><br />Ads, I can take. I hit the channel change, listen to Bloomberg for 3 minutes, pop back.<br /><br />But yes, trees. I've moved to the Bay area recently and where I'm living is peppered with Redwoods. If you live in any other region that is forested, you'd be driven slowly crazy too.<br /><br />S. . ...n yo. .re list....g to the radi. ... ge. ......uptions al...<br /><br />I'd love streaming radio from them. It's been a fan question from almost day one but there's never been a satisfactory answer. That is, until now and your bit of info John.<br /><br />And you are right - they have no money. In fact if I remember correctly, SIRIUS is in some serious amount of debt. $175 mill was due in February, in May, $350 mill was due, and by the end of the year, $400 million in senior convertible notes is due.<br /><br />And through it all, I hope they make it. I love the NASCAR channel & the RADIO CLASSICS. Heck I've even learned that Howard Stern is a pretty intelligent guy if you happen upon those moments when he speaks his opinion.<br /><br />Yea, I'd love to see NASCAR stream. That would help them convert subscribers I think. A focused market is what they need to address and that's a great way to do it.<br /><br />Bruce Simmons<br />NASCAR Bits and PiecesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-54597960163461884882009-07-30T14:03:14.956-04:002009-07-30T14:03:14.956-04:00Photojosh,
JD's original column advocated let...Photojosh,<br /><br />JD's original column advocated letting nascar.com stream the channel for free through the end of the season, with the idea of reevaluating that decision next year. He didn't say he meant for subscribers only, and that is what I was responding to.<br /><br />I am one of those people who signed up with SIRIUS just to get the NASCAR channel. I have been a subscriber since Dec. 2006. I don't agree with the idea that it's up to SIRIUS to take it on the chin for the good of NASCAR.allisongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-65365152534841199882009-07-30T12:53:07.770-04:002009-07-30T12:53:07.770-04:00"Have you figured that those of us who curren...<i>"Have you figured that those of us who currently subscribe just for channel 128 might drop our subscriptions if we could get it for free?"</i><br /><br />Allisong,<br /><br />Anon 10:51 appears to be a current Sirius subscriber. I don't get that he/she was asking for anything for free. Like the rest of us, just asking that he/she get to listen to ALL the channels that were paid for via the internet rather than just over the air.Photojoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-3168639522784244532009-07-30T12:49:46.776-04:002009-07-30T12:49:46.776-04:00As a side note, this is just one more example of N...As a side note, this is just one more example of NASCAR's cluelessness of the "new media" age we have entered into. It's sad to see IRL taking the lead in terms of internet broadcasts and web-interaction. <br /><br />While I realize that the business situations are different between the IRL and NASCAR TV packages, the fact is that to the average fan, all they see is the fact that they can watch an indy race for free on the internet. NASCAR.com makes you pay a overpriced monthly fee to watch a bunch of cartoon cars jump around the track. Sure, for 6 weeks a year we get to see what NASCAR <b>could</b> be offering. but then it goes away and we get nothing but the cartoons again.<br /><br />Pathetic. Much more pathetic (in terms of the future of the sport) than the TV package complaints that we love to harp on here. NASCAR needs to get their butts in gear regarding the internet and the new ways that media, including stuff like Sirius, is being used by consumers.Photojoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-20375469289735457322009-07-30T12:49:36.161-04:002009-07-30T12:49:36.161-04:00Anon 10:51 AM:
"I can't see how giving m...Anon 10:51 AM:<br /><br />"I can't see how giving me the option to also listen online would hurt Sirius/XM at all."<br /><br />Have you figured that those of us who currently subscribe just for channel 128 might drop our subscriptions if we could get it for free?<br /><br />I would not object if the online stream was made available only to current subscribers, either exclusively on nascar.com or in conjunction with the other sirius channels currently available online.<br /><br />The idea that sirius should give this away for free, with the idea that they can turn around and start charging for it after "things improve", I don't see people being very happy about suddenly being charged for something they were used to getting for free. Just as I wouldn't be happy about people getting for free what I have been paying for.allisongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-30278889745878788782009-07-30T12:45:04.347-04:002009-07-30T12:45:04.347-04:00The key here is free. I enjoy watching the races b...<i>The key here is free. I enjoy watching the races but I wouldn't pay to watch them on tv.</i><br /><br />Unless you are stealing cable or only watching the fox races, you ARE paying to watch the races via your cable TV bill. Which is the exact same thing as Sirius. <br /><br />"FREE" isn't going to happen. Internet ads don't foot the bill for stuff like this and Sirius isn't built around being successful under a "free radio" model. Their business plan revolves around a subscription based plan.<br /><br />What should happen is that Sirius should be able to offer everything via the internet that they offer over the air. Until they do (at least for the few channels I care about) they won't get my money.Photojoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-24184283281939046512009-07-30T12:33:00.595-04:002009-07-30T12:33:00.595-04:00JD, I think you've left this too open to get a...JD, I think you've left this too open to get a good response. What I'm seeing is distinct types of responses right now:<br /><br />Fans that already have Sirius and want to access 128 online at no additional charge.<br /><br />Fans that don't have Sirius and want to access 128 online at no charge.<br /><br />I think that the first should happen. The second, absolutely not. At least not until UNICEF gets into the satellite radio business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com