tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post2192123576633990799..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Gibbs News Fills An Empty Wednesday For TV NetworksDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35254394593960265762007-09-06T17:50:00.000-04:002007-09-06T17:50:00.000-04:00So you buy cars built by foreigners, who then put ...So you buy cars built by foreigners, who then put an "American" brand name on those cars, and make the CEOs of the companies who outsourced those jobs to other countries?<BR/><BR/>But you won't buy cars that are made by Americans in America?<BR/><BR/>You've got an interesting perspective. Not real smart, but interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19405032587782275862007-09-06T17:37:00.000-04:002007-09-06T17:37:00.000-04:00Hey haus20,...this is a good business decision.Tha...Hey haus20,<BR/>...this is a good business decision.<BR/>That is your opinion and I respect that. I guess we just disagree on this one. <BR/>But I don't think it was good for Gibbs. I do think it was good for Toyota. Gibbs has nothing to gain and everything to loose. Toyota on the other hand has everything to gain, better chassis design, better engine department ( I stand by my original statement about the engines). I'll bet the new Toyota Engine that they will bring to Daytona will look a lot like the new Chevy Engine. <BR/>But what does Gibbs get???? Money??? I guess that's it. Toyota has shown nothing this year, a few freak finishes due to good calls by crew chiefs. A few Pole high Pole positions due to Qualifying Setups during impound races. Those top cars by the way finished in the back on those races. But it's OK things change.<BR/>We will see what next year brings. But I fear, I will not be watching next year. Too many changes for my taste, poor TV coverage, Overpriced tickets. Cookie Cutter Cars on Cookie Cutter Tracks and that GD ugly wing.Too bad, it use to be a great sport. Even when the foreign cars ran in the 50's...Anybody besides me remember the Convertable Series????<BR/>Can we at least agree that they need to go back to Darlington on Labor Day?<BR/><BR/>And to anonymous: who said:....If you're so blind that you don't care that "American" cars are being built in other countries, which takes away American jobs, there's not much that can be done for you.<BR/><BR/>The jobs left because of the greed and stupidity of the Unions. They let it happen, Where was your Congressman and Senators when they took the jobs away? Why did they vote for NAFTA? Where were the Unions when they closed down the plants and moved the Jobs. Don't blame me for the jobs leaving. I live in an area of 3 Major Car Plants, 2 are closing this year. Is that my Fault too??? I drive American Cars, always have, First Car a 66 Pontiac Bonneville, then a Ford,then GMC,Dodge and Now I drive Pontiac again.<BR/>I made sure that each car was actuality made and assembled in America. It's harder today to do that but it's not my fault they build cars outside the States. But at least the money from those car sales comes back to America and goes back into the American economy. And how come It's OK for you that Toyota builds outside of their country but it's not OK for the US Auto Makers??? I didn't see you crying for the lost jobs in Japan???<BR/>Oh and I work for an Major American Company not to many of them left either....But I suppose that's my fault too.<BR/>"Hasta Pronto" (In keeping with the spirit)<BR/>RJPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-54808770145534299572007-09-06T17:34:00.000-04:002007-09-06T17:34:00.000-04:00While garry’s comments about Brad Daugherty were a...While garry’s comments about Brad Daugherty were a little brash, they shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand. When ESPN continues to use a commentator who has trouble making germane and insightful comments about racing, we are left to wonder why. <BR/><BR/>Is it because he’s black? I don’t really know, but it’s certainly possible. There seems to be a prevailing sentiment among the “elites” of our society that diversity must be achieved at any cost and without regard to practicality. Because of this well-known (or at least widely-perceived) predilection, people will understandably be suspicious of ESPN’s motives here.<BR/><BR/>If ESPN is keeping Daugherty around simply because he’s black, then they are doing themselves a disservice. In addition to harming the quality and reputation of the network, they would also be disrespecting Mr. Daugherty himself, not to mention the fans.<BR/><BR/>Of course, without inside information, we don’t know exactly why Brad is featured so prominently during ESPN’s NASCAR coverage (including the race broadcast itself). While it might be easy to say that it “must” be because of his skin color, how do you then explain the continued presence of Tim Cowlishaw?<BR/><BR/>cwebscwebshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13759294615493544438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-36914011945232902832007-09-06T16:23:00.000-04:002007-09-06T16:23:00.000-04:00RonP...Everyone knows that Hendrick is the apple o...RonP...Everyone knows that Hendrick is the apple of Chevrolet's eye. So that would make Gibbs no better than 2nd in line. It is possible that Gibbs is not getting all of the technical support from Chevrolet that they think Hendrick is getting or that they think they deserve. All of those stats that you give are nice, but if Gibbs thinks they can be even better by making a change, they would be foolish not to. You don't retain sponsors because you used to be good or you have had a lot of wins, you keep sponsors because you continue to win and continue to improve and be competitive.<BR/><BR/>Teams that become complacent with where they are fail. You always have to try to improve what you have. I reiterate - this is a good business decision.Haus14https://www.blogger.com/profile/06348382223779617438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-60043131003054919592007-09-06T14:22:00.001-04:002007-09-06T14:22:00.001-04:00As for the debate about Japaneese cars vs American...As for the debate about Japaneese cars vs American in NASCAR, who cares? The cars all look the same anyway. Back in the day when the cars actually looked like something off the showroom floor it made a difference, but not anymore. I'm from Michigan and the auto parts manufactures that I know around here make parts for pretty much all makes. Foreign and domestic. And I challenge anybody to look at a Cup car from 50 feet way with just the primer paint on it and tell me if it is a Toyota, Ford, Dodge or Chevy. You can't do it.<BR/><BR/>As for Brad Daugherty, I have yet to hear anything revealing come out of his mouth. He's Mr. Obvious. <BR/><BR/>And don't get me started on Erik with a K, as in Klueless!!<BR/><BR/>I'd love to see Speed do a daily Nascar show. Compete head to head with ESPN and see how many viewers ESPN gets.<BR/><BR/>Seeing that it's Thursday and another slow news day, it'll be interesting to see what ESPN and Erik with a K can hype on NascarNow tonight.Vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530553847645526841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-51817509563268747652007-09-06T14:22:00.000-04:002007-09-06T14:22:00.000-04:00I really don't notice or care what car a driver dr...I really don't notice or care what car a driver drives. I like the driver / team based on the just that, the driver / team. If Jeff Gordon started driving a Toyota tomorrow, I would still route for him, and drive my Ford Taurus. A car is a car, a team is a team. I purchase my car based on cost, performance and options, not on what it is, and I choose my favorite drivers based on performance and charisma, not on what they drive. Gibbs in a Toyota next year? I will still think Tony is a great driver that needs to loose weight, Hamlin is a great driver that needs to be consistant, and Shrub (Kyle Busch) is a great driver that has potential.<BR/><BR/>Bill H<BR/><BR/>P.S. - will you have open comments for Speeds "The Chase is On" tonight?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23013152213208116742007-09-06T14:14:00.000-04:002007-09-06T14:14:00.000-04:00In my opinion Toyota's coming into NASCAR Busch & ...In my opinion Toyota's coming into NASCAR Busch & Cup racing has been one of the most poorly, unprofessionally covered news stories of the century. Almost uniformly the media has portrayed Toyota as an evil, spendthrift company that would just "buy" success - ignoring the fact that Toyota has spent over $1.25 BILLION in Formula 1 in the past 5 or 6 years with no wins to show for it. Toyota has proven in F1 that money alone will not buy success - but that is an inconvenient fact to the NASCAR media, especially the newspapers. Since ESPN is an entertainment channel now, facts are irrelevant to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-81418811610050769292007-09-06T13:49:00.000-04:002007-09-06T13:49:00.000-04:00To all, go to your local short track this Saturday...<B>To all, go to your local short track this Saturday and support your local racers, they need it, They are racing on a budget, trying to raise families. </B><BR/><BR/>Look, I like Saturday races, but just like Single-A baseball isn't the same as MLB, they're not the same thing as watching a Cup race. You're not going to attract a crowd by begging ("they need your money")--that's not why people go to races, to be charitable. <BR/><BR/>If you're so blind that you don't care that "American" cars are being built in other countries, which takes away American jobs, there's not much that can be done for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11399395420586349012007-09-06T13:33:00.000-04:002007-09-06T13:33:00.000-04:00haus20 said... Ok let me think about this...I coul...haus20 said... <BR/>Ok let me think about this...I could be 2nd or 3rd in the pecking order at GM and hope that I am getting the same info that Hendrick and DEI/RCR are getting.<BR/><BR/>Hey haus20,<BR/>2nd or third in pecking order??? In the past 7 years Gibbs has had 3 Cup Championships. In the past 4 years they have 139 top 10 finishs.<BR/>I'm sorry thats not a 2nd or third ranked team. DEI getting the best engines..... I guess JR and Truex and Manard didn't blow all those engines or transmissions this year. You must be watching a different NASCAR than the rest of us.<BR/>Toyota is not an American Company, if it was it Headquarters would be in America and not Toyota City Japan. Ford and Chevy made in Mexico? I don't care their headquarters are in the US and the money comes here, not to Japan. <BR/>Also did anyone notice that Toyota's Head of American operations just bailed yesterday to go to work for Dodge????<BR/>My main beef with Toyota is they "buy" yes I said "buy" their way into racing series and then trash/destroy the series with rule change demands. Please don't tell me that Cart, IRHell,are better because Toyota and Honda came into those series, they are not. In the next few years you will see Toyota push for Spec Crate engines, And once Nascar switches from Push Rod V8's to Fuel Injection we can finally put the lid on the NASCAR coffin.<BR/>To all, go to your local short track this Saturday and support your local racers, they need it, They are racing on a budget, trying to raise families. Eckeeing out a living doing what they love and what we love to watch. Their kids go to your schools, they help your local economy. <BR/>Trust me Brain France and Katsuaki Watanabe all ready have enough money.<BR/>RJPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-32345204267585019982007-09-06T12:36:00.000-04:002007-09-06T12:36:00.000-04:00Yeah, ESPN put Brad out there because he's black. ...Yeah, ESPN put Brad out there because he's black. And just because someone is Liberal doesn't make them anti-American. It was liberal thinking that got women and African Americans the vote. It was liberal thinking that lifted prohibition. Or would you rather Dale Jr drive the Hi-C car? Do us all a favor and don't live up to the incorrect stereotype that it put on all NASCAR fans. We're not like you, so don't try to represent us. <BR/><BR/>That being said, it's sick that you would be mad that a foreign car is used in NASCAR. Would I stop rooting for the Orioles if they used bats made in Spain? Would I ditch the Capitals because their Graf skates are made in Switzerland?<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, TV ratings for NASCAR are declining as is new interest in the sport. Bringing Toyota to the #1 series and now signing a big team to use the brand could bring fans in from Japan. Look at how they embrace the Mariners with Ichiro or the Red Sox with Matsuzaka. If JGR wins consistently in Toyotas, it will be a source of pride that their product is succeeding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-24007471486512914442007-09-06T12:32:00.000-04:002007-09-06T12:32:00.000-04:00First let me address the issue of Toyota and the f...First let me address the issue of Toyota and the fans. If you go to a race look at the cars and trucks that are in the parking lot, even in Darlington, there are alot of Toyotas and Hondas. So just because they haven't been in the sport before doesn't mean that they don't belong. If you are looking at foreign ownership of the cars that are racing look at Dodge, they were owned by a German company until a few months ago. <BR/>Now back to the main topic, the coverage. I thought that NASCAR Now did a nice job covering the story. I am a fan of Marty's and think he always brings something to the interview because of his history with the teams and drivers. The only thing I would have done was to bring in Tim Brewer to talk about the differences in the engines and set-ups or if there is one. That's the area that Gibbs is going to have to work on because with the COT the bodies will be the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76649893414524723972007-09-06T11:50:00.000-04:002007-09-06T11:50:00.000-04:00As to the American made issue, you can find this l...As to the American made issue, you can find this listing on cars.com that ranks vehicles sold in the US by their relative domestic content (including assembly). All of the top ten below are built in America (not Mexico or Canada while having utmost respect for our neighbors to the north and south, those plants don't employ "American" workers).<BR/><BR/>Toyota employs over 35,000 in the USA.<BR/><BR/>.. and I drive a Chevrolet...<BR/><BR/>Rank Make/Model <BR/>1. Ford F-150* ;<BR/>2. Toyota Camry**,Camry Solara 3. Chevrolet Silverado 1500* <BR/>4. Chevrolet Cobalt <BR/>5. Ford Focus <BR/>6. Toyota Sienna <BR/>7. Chevrolet Malibu,<BR/>8. Pontiac G6 <BR/>9. Ford Escape**<BR/>10. Toyota TundraUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05434988185398392165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-70577243843893668802007-09-06T11:37:00.000-04:002007-09-06T11:37:00.000-04:00I also firmly believe (because my brother works fo...I also firmly believe (because my brother works for a top tier NASCAR team) that Brian France is somewhere behind the scenes, saying, "Look, I brought Toyota int this sport and I have egg on my face. You(Joe Gibbs) need to do this for the betterment of the sport." And you can almost hear the fading comment, "Or else....."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-73432251696880946512007-09-06T11:34:00.000-04:002007-09-06T11:34:00.000-04:00The only two reasons that ESPN chose to have Brad ...The only two reasons that ESPN chose to have Brad Daugherty do the piece, is so they cover two planes- First, they played the race card with him being black.Second-thay can figure that the stick and ball types watching at that hour will know him as a former NBA star,and they can only relate to stick and ball people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-90730164422661219982007-09-06T11:19:00.000-04:002007-09-06T11:19:00.000-04:00Sad to see so many are still stuck in the dark age...Sad to see so many are still stuck in the dark ages......<BR/><BR/>Toyota is hardly a foreign car company anymore....<BR/><BR/>Get over it & yourselves..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-70575498112469812772007-09-06T10:50:00.000-04:002007-09-06T10:50:00.000-04:00Yeah and SubarusYeah and SubarusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-68813868806556265922007-09-06T10:49:00.000-04:002007-09-06T10:49:00.000-04:00THIS FAN helped get them where they are since 1970...THIS FAN helped get them where they are since 1970 and I say welcome aboard Toyota. I hope you win early and win big.<BR/>grammi girlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-89554220775568813102007-09-06T10:34:00.000-04:002007-09-06T10:34:00.000-04:00Many of the "fans who got them where they are" dri...Many of the "fans who got them where they are" drive Toyotas, Hondas, and Nissans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-36623940242627154242007-09-06T10:32:00.000-04:002007-09-06T10:32:00.000-04:00I hear the dirge starting already. I would call i...I hear the dirge starting already. I would call it NA$CAR'S death knell. You might as well change the name to JAPCAR. Does nascar not have a clue as to what they are going to lose by allowing these moves they've made in the last few years. I've said it before and I'll say it again. They seem to have no regard for the fans that got them where they are. But what will they do when all the bandwagon fans leave? It's already happening. Just look at the tv ratings. MicahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-4012690829776271962007-09-06T09:50:00.000-04:002007-09-06T09:50:00.000-04:00Based on the 2006 stats from the Highway Traffic S...Based on the 2006 stats from the Highway Traffic Safety Administration, that amount of American content and the place of assembly is interesting for the NASCAR models…<BR/><BR/>The Ford Fusion contains 50% American content and is assembled in Canada.<BR/>The Dodge Charger contains 72% American content and is assembled in Canada. <BR/>The Chevy Impala contains 90% American content and is assembled in Canada.<BR/>The Toyota Camry contains 75% American content and is assembled in KY.<BR/>American content means USA and Canada combined.<BR/><BR/>However, that's not the focus of John's comments now is it? Back on topic...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-58234276108638514032007-09-06T09:36:00.000-04:002007-09-06T09:36:00.000-04:00Ok let me think about this...I could be 2nd or 3rd...Ok let me think about this...I could be 2nd or 3rd in the pecking order at GM and hope that I am getting the same info that Hendrick and DEI/RCR are getting or I can be number one at Toyota with more resources and know that I am getting the best information. O, and by the way, get better compensation as well. That isn't chasing the almighty dollar that is a good business decision...JGR wants to win championships and they feel that Toyota gives them the best opportunity to do that. That is after all the purpose of having a race team correct?Haus14https://www.blogger.com/profile/06348382223779617438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-44657115936583628172007-09-06T09:32:00.000-04:002007-09-06T09:32:00.000-04:00Because I can guarantee that a few have made their...<B>Because I can guarantee that a few have made their way to TRD in California.<BR/></B><BR/><BR/>Not unless you actually saw it happen, you can't. You <I>assume</I> it, but you cannot possibly <I>guarantee</I> it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-84902406204501318752007-09-06T09:24:00.000-04:002007-09-06T09:24:00.000-04:00I have only this to say about Toyota and Gibbs.Toy...I have only this to say about Toyota and Gibbs.<BR/>Toyota entered the Truck Series with a stolen engine design from Dodge thanks to Bill Daveis. Toyota was then forced by Nascar to come up with their own Cup Engine, because of Dodge Winning their law Suit against Toyota and the "Stolen Engine."<BR/>Now Toyota's success in the Cup is not happening:<BR/> So how does Toyota fix this, easy steal an engin from the Top NA$CAR AUTO Maker Chevy. But you can't just go into a Cup grage and steal an engine ( see comment above on Bill Davis). So if you can't steal one, Buy your way into a Top Chevy Shop.<BR/>Hey Chevy, I hope you had a good count of all the Blocks and Heads you gave Gibbs. Because I can guarantee that a few have made their way to TRD in California.<BR/>Thanks Joe and JD for sell out for the Dollar. You told us that Beer and Alcohol sponsors are bad but I guess the All Mighty Doller is OK.<BR/>Tony' I'll miss being a fan of yours.<BR/> さようなら吸盤は、勝利の車線の会う。日本はまだ、Remeber の真珠湾吸う!<BR/>RJPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38542592050942009882007-09-06T06:57:00.000-04:002007-09-06T06:57:00.000-04:00so anti-American they're either liberals or terror...<B>so anti-American they're either liberals or terrorists.</B><BR/><BR/>Don't be a jerk. Just because someone doesn't agree with your political beliefs doesn't make them a "terrorist," Rush.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-82995044262760682652007-09-06T06:45:00.000-04:002007-09-06T06:45:00.000-04:00Stricklinfan,That's a great question. You would no...Stricklinfan,<BR/><BR/>That's a great question. You would normally bring in someone from the staff who is familiar with a certain sport if there is a press conference or big story. That is what surprised me, that the First Take staff did the whole thing when we knew Marty Smith was there.<BR/><BR/>As I have mentioned before, ESPN2 has been a success without NASCAR and fitting this type of content into all the news and opinion shows is going to be a struggle. We saw it on this story.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.com