tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post2579374681168270287..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Roush Blasts TV Commentators AgainDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-18659220235059818942010-02-06T22:17:03.437-05:002010-02-06T22:17:03.437-05:00Roush showed me 3 years ago with his baseless warn...Roush showed me 3 years ago with his baseless warning about Toyota that he will say whatever benefits him regardless of facts, so I don't think he has any credibility. At a minimum he demonstrated to me that he has no class since it was obvious that he made vague accusations about DW and Rusty and had not bothered to say anything directly to DW. Sounds to me like maybe Roush was trying to put the TV guys on the defensive as far as criticizing the performance of his cars.Richard in N.C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-4613621280266323812010-02-06T19:11:51.484-05:002010-02-06T19:11:51.484-05:00Logos on a set,sponsors paying the networks, that&...Logos on a set,sponsors paying the networks, that's always been done. A commentator being paid by a automaker and that person then plugs that make of car in excess is what most people are talking about.I don't blame Jack for not getting into an on air fight with DW. DW knows what Roush said and he reiterated it on the show. Obvious is obvious, Jack was right in this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-22387701834245068502010-02-06T18:55:51.107-05:002010-02-06T18:55:51.107-05:00Roush won't criticize the real nattering nabob...Roush won't criticize the real nattering nabobs of NASCAR negativity (the print media) since they print everything he says as if he brought it down the mountain with Moses.<br /><br />On Trackside it seemed to me that DW gave Roush the opportunity to express himself and Roush blinked.Richard in N.C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8098294286647435842010-02-06T16:59:50.019-05:002010-02-06T16:59:50.019-05:00jack being jack.
he makes some good points, but n...jack being jack.<br /><br />he makes some good points, but nothing worth getting worked up over.The Loose Wheelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06048709313597675807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16658543972533862562010-02-06T15:30:06.759-05:002010-02-06T15:30:06.759-05:00While the Fox Part of the season consists of a lot...While the Fox Part of the season consists of a lot of cheerleading and shilling (Jr, Scrub, a car manufacturer, a tire manufacturer, a fuel supplier, and the sanctioning body)the TNT part was very refreshing and quite honest. Unfortunately, it wasn't long enough. ESPN/ABC was, let's face it, very representative of what was happening on the track. Boring! And they were justly criticised for it until Talladega when they called it the way it was and got taken to the hauler by the sanctioning body for their remarks.Fox has their shills and cheerleadrs, ESPN has theirs. I don't see why Jack got his panties in a wad over this. I've met him before, got to talk with him for a couple of minutes, and even got an autograph. If he really wanted to make a point, he should've asked why Fox and ESPN can't do a broadcast like TNT.The Mad Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43893949183593755162010-02-06T14:48:06.706-05:002010-02-06T14:48:06.706-05:00I do not think anyone should get all twisted up ov...I do not think anyone should get all twisted up over Toyota or anyone else having a logo on a set. All of those Toyota logos and other product logos are there because those companies pay to put them there. All of the network broadcasts have paid advertisers as well as sponsor logos visible throughout the broadcast...This is certainly nothing new and is not unique to Fox or to racing. (ESPN's Home Depot Garage or Dish Tech Center are a few other examples)Haus14https://www.blogger.com/profile/06348382223779617438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8749421378554857382010-02-06T14:24:09.674-05:002010-02-06T14:24:09.674-05:00On one hand Jack has a point that the announcers n...On one hand Jack has a point that the announcers need to step up their game. But on the other hand, it's ridiculous to expect reporters to look the other way when the news isn't so great or stick to the party line's "talking points". Not every media outlet operates like FOX News.<br /><br />Thankfully.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80829610252157959532010-02-06T11:54:13.129-05:002010-02-06T11:54:13.129-05:00Trackside and all NASCAR related broadcasts, blogs...Trackside and all NASCAR related broadcasts, blogs, etc are about entertainment and not about 'journalism. The racing principles, entertainers, and 'reporters' should be free to express any opinion they want. Those who are being entertained are obligated to sort it out or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9321591552656256032010-02-06T11:54:10.472-05:002010-02-06T11:54:10.472-05:00Hard to believe that anyone could think that good ...Hard to believe that anyone could think that good ole DW would be anything but a straight shootin' tell-it-like-it-is kind of guy.<br /><br />Dodge Boy From CanadaDodge Boynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-51897019339262431262010-02-06T11:51:46.839-05:002010-02-06T11:51:46.839-05:00SPEED stands for "Silly People Exist Every Da...SPEED stands for "Silly People Exist Every Day"<br /><br />Grow up and broadcast the event!<br /><br />So tacky to see each announcer on SPEED wearing a different sponsor on their shirt...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-42598190815278522942010-02-06T11:14:34.918-05:002010-02-06T11:14:34.918-05:00as a fan for 12, 13 years, many of those following...as a fan for 12, 13 years, many of those following Roush cars (though not now) I think we all know Jack likes to talk. And we don't always like what he has to say. It is always a fine line. You often hear a football announcer rail on a bad call, and yet in the next breath, talk about what a tough job the officials have. Hard to support the activity yet be honest at the same time but that's what everyone tries to do in every sport.<br /><br />But as for the conversation--I simply heard two guys who respect each other agreeing to disagree without getting into too much detail (which isn't really a function of Trackside). Not a big deal. I think if a writer or commentator felt the need to come out with some story ripping Jack, they have a right to do so, just as Jack does to give his opinion. I do think reporters tend to dwell on the most negative and most positive things they can find, and ignore much that falls in the middle....the real stories.<br /><br />Ya know, I'll be honest. I've been reading this stuff about Rusty & Jeff and yet I never noticed it. I'd like to hear some specific examples if anyone remembers one. I guess I just haven't paid enough attention (I'm not a particular fan or hater of either.)<br /><br />Also, I experienced what others did with Roush--he came out of the RV lot on an ATV--coulda kept going, yet he stopped, sat there and started signing autograhs for everyone who wanted, like 15 minutes. Many times, it's all about the timing. These folks sometimes have a lot on their minds.glenc1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-78326965100060684752010-02-06T10:34:30.651-05:002010-02-06T10:34:30.651-05:00Matriarch has hit the nail right on the head, good...Matriarch has hit the nail right on the head, good points. As far as owning a dealership or not, wearing a shirt with Toyota over the pocket is wrong enough in my eyes.And Gymmie, as far as seeing through the bias, we shouldn't have to do that. The on air people should try as much as possible not to show bias. And I don't blame Roush for not getting into a heated discussion with DW on the air, the media, as Shirley says, always gets the last word. What he said about DW and Rusty was on target.If DW's feelings are hurt he can correct it, stop the bias for Toyota, the schilling for his DW store ,and make it a point to try and improve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80486867187830127822010-02-06T10:15:39.301-05:002010-02-06T10:15:39.301-05:00If Jack would think it through before he speaks he...If Jack would think it through before he speaks he'd sound like an intelligent person instead of a cranky old man. This year his target is the media. <br />Who cares, really?<br /><br />Speed shills for Toyota & every thing with NASCAR brass is wonderful.<br /><br />espn rips NASCAR & its drivers & fans as often & hard as they can. <br /> 2 opposites there and then<br />TNT & Fox are in the middle ground.Mostly.<br /><br />I would not go to any of them as my only source anymore. To many conflicting interests, and agendas for any kind of independent reporting of just facts anymore.<br />I don't believe much any of them have to say unless I can cross verify it.<br /><br />If a fan can figure it out - why can't Jack?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35881647769072328822010-02-06T10:12:30.197-05:002010-02-06T10:12:30.197-05:00Roush always has something to complain about. If a...Roush always has something to complain about. If all the commentators were saying wonderful things about his teams, he'd probably be happy, maybe. I'm capable of deciding whether what I see and hear on TV and the radio makes sense to me or not AND whether I think the racing is exciting or not. I don't need the media or the biased commentators to lie to me OR for that matter, have NASCAR tell the drivers to only say positive things -- or else. Geez, how stupid they think the fans are - its so darn insulting.<br /><br />What I want from the commentators and media are the facts. I'd prefer unbiased commentating but that isn't going to happen in NASCAR given the business relationships that DW, cRusty, Brad, Parsons & others all have with the sport that they are in the booth for, so for me, they lack credibility and like Jack, I think many of them still have axes to grind -- Rusty is a prime example of that and the Waltrip cheerleading squad has worn out its welcome for me.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34272420247351419632010-02-06T10:05:36.129-05:002010-02-06T10:05:36.129-05:00I'm gonna say this bluntly. I don't care w...I'm gonna say this bluntly. I don't care who has what ax to grind. Everyone has an opinion and I appreciate hearing them because they all vary. But MAKE SURE when you speak it you label it as such!! THAT is what upsets me... making opinion into fact. A fact is unchangeable no matter who says it. When people watch racing they form their own opinion. Some people have a problem with that.<br />Also, some of these guys are getting OLD... maybe the thought is that if we don't all get our gripes out now, it'll be too late!!Donna DeBoerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05794219924983285744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43819769219325722112010-02-06T10:02:27.038-05:002010-02-06T10:02:27.038-05:00I will post a comment from Jim Morrison, in 1968:
...I will post a comment from Jim Morrison, in 1968:<br />"Whoever controls the media, controls the mind."<br />There is some fact among fiction, people.IMO, Jack is trying to stop-gap a growing trend with the media "dumbing down" the public. I mean, really, there are people out there that believe in three-headed Elvis', because the media(National Enquirer)told them it exists.How many people believe Jimmie Johnson is actually talented? Again, because the media pushes that agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57815277736386548832010-02-06T09:54:14.902-05:002010-02-06T09:54:14.902-05:00Fox & Speed only exist to clown around and cou...Fox & Speed only exist to clown around and could care less about credibility (Digger & Friends, Rutledge Wood, Kenny Wallace, Chris Myers, NASCAR Smarts, the new Fast Track to Reality crap, Most Colorful Fan of NASCAR, DW waving the pom-poms for Kyle Busch, production compund staff dancing and twirling disco balls over their heads while "working" and on and on and on........)<br /><br />ESPN only exists to emphasize the negative and tries to stir up controversy themselves when nothing bad is happening naturally.<br /><br />TNT's not around long enough to have a completely fair opinion but doesn't seem to decidedly lean to one extreme or the other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-36825068482958281022010-02-06T09:48:17.625-05:002010-02-06T09:48:17.625-05:00I'm not a Roush fan, but I think he
handled th...I'm not a Roush fan, but I think he<br />handled the comment very diplomaticaly. It didn't seem to me<br />that he was addressing the Talladega criticisms as much as he was the announcer's agendas and<br />past conflicts. We fans all know<br />of DW's brother's Toyota race team<br />and evergoing NAPA infomercials and<br />can't understand why FOX doesn't <br />employ someone who has no agenda.51 yr. fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-26980234592504421242010-02-06T09:23:50.939-05:002010-02-06T09:23:50.939-05:00Jack always seems to find something to complain ab...Jack always seems to find something to complain about. NASCAR's decline is because of the IROCish look the sport has become. The muzzle on emotions and the racing they have implemented. If they do what they say their going to do about spoilers, let them drive and police themselves and so on, could get some of the "Old racing" back. LEt the Rusty's and DW's, Dale Jarretts and so on speak. Whether I like what is said or not, they have keen insight to the past of the sport that is and has been the part of the sport. To Jack, concentrate on your Teams performance and not on TV.....Chris Buchanannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63562576751441808702010-02-06T09:16:36.797-05:002010-02-06T09:16:36.797-05:00roush has apparently decided that i am incapable o...roush has apparently decided that i am incapable of deciding for myself what to think of the nascar broadcasts, the quality of racing, and that i am willing led by the media. all i can say to that is: roush don't know jack!<br /><br />for me, the issue is the disconnect between what roush sees at the track and what i see from home. if the racing is as solid as he believes, then the issue is not that the media criticizes the racing. the issue is that the broadcast media fails to show the racing! <br /><br />i know the biases that various announcers bring to the booth and i take that into account as i listen to them. they infuriate me, to be certain, but i don't rely on their view of nascar to shape mine. and i most certainly do not rely on jack roush to assist me in forming my own opinion. <br /><br />to me, this is a case of arrogance on the part of roush and acquiescence to it on the parts of DW and LarryMac. as a fan, i'm disappointed with them all.redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08469882559901586219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-71294587805013348092010-02-06T09:16:24.999-05:002010-02-06T09:16:24.999-05:00Roush should blame the execs and the directing cre...Roush should blame the execs and the directing crews for not supporting NASCAR, not the announcers. After all, the execs and directors are the inexperienced ones who can throw a monkey wrench into what could be a fine broadcast.<br /><br />There are not a lot of problems with the announcers, though others can tell different. The real problems are bad camera work, Digger, occasional lack of weekday and off-season programming, etc.Chris from NYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47096700837760935482010-02-06T08:41:37.069-05:002010-02-06T08:41:37.069-05:00Again, take anything Jack Roush says with a grain ...Again, take anything Jack Roush says with a grain of salt. Every year he is unhappy with something.<br /><br />What are the announcers supposed to do? Lie to us? When the racing is bad, it is bad. When 6 cars pull into the garage to S&P we should know. If the announcers can't see the debris in the famous debris caution, let them question it. It is their job to be observant, not propaganda. <br /><br />The biggest issue with tv coverage is the camerawork and production truck, not announcer bias. Fox has gold with Mike Joy & ESPN has promise in Marty Reid. Show us the racing and let the action on track speak for itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27563343589093989562010-02-06T08:32:36.205-05:002010-02-06T08:32:36.205-05:00Did anyone hear Tony Stewart's opinion about t...Did anyone hear Tony Stewart's opinion about the "print media?" I don't have the exact quote, but he blistered the print writers and praised the TV folks.<br />So Jack Roush has an opinion, Tony has an opinion, DW has an opinion. Who doesn't?<br />Nowhere that I know of does NASCAR get bashed more than in the "comments" from Daly Planet loyalists.Cooterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00313336789539826031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-28160853381551667932010-02-06T04:55:44.368-05:002010-02-06T04:55:44.368-05:00I agree w Jack all the way and have since I first ...I agree w Jack all the way and have since I first read about this!Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-50707419044240706282010-02-06T04:48:19.146-05:002010-02-06T04:48:19.146-05:00Aw, Jack! Wanna complain 'bout something? Why ...Aw, Jack! Wanna complain 'bout something? Why dont-cha go put one o' yer sway bars in MWR's garage and claim they stole it..... Wait: that already happened? Uh, lessee...um....let the oil reservoir cover come off the 99 car and when you're caught at it point at Toyota and say, "They tried it TOO!" <br /><br />Oh, well...did that already too. <br /><br />Listen, I respect Jack on a lot of levels, but this isn't one of them. Maybe he should just shut up and get his teams back in the winners' circle. That might actually improve TV ratings and attendance. <br /><br />I mean, I love the Hendrick organization, but I think we're all getting a little tired of the same winners every year.dannyboynoreply@blogger.com