tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post2582655440131361746..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: TNT's Michigan Coverage Also Ends On FumesDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-10539932342515949592009-06-16T12:09:48.924-04:002009-06-16T12:09:48.924-04:00Just want to let someone know that I LOVED LOVED L...Just want to let someone know that I LOVED LOVED LOVED the video with the Racer putting the manhole cover over Digger. It was clever and adorable. It was not cutting, but the truth. Way to go, someone. I hope there are more. Humor of that kind is very important in life.TheCarpenterKitchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17178675340180549352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-58889169953853571872009-06-16T11:13:15.160-04:002009-06-16T11:13:15.160-04:00intheknow,
I understand your point and thank you ...intheknow,<br /><br />I understand your point and thank you for taking the time to repost. <br /><br />However, I think you are confusing the scramble that the local stations, taped TV shows and the Internet media have after the races with the live main TV network agenda.<br /><br />The issue is not whether to interview drivers live or not, but rather to stay and tell the story of the previous three hours. <br /><br />My email box overflowed with messages from the angry fans of drivers who did not make the air on the TNT post-race show. <br /><br />This anger is heightened by the fact that the network, that has only six races a year, left the air more than twenty minutes before their scheduled "off time."<br /><br />Then, they aired twenty minutes of police chases in a show that was over ten years old. This is not a TV recipe for responsible decision-making at the executive level.<br /><br />I know the scramble for the helicopter and the airplane all too well, but the point is that if TNT kept the infield stage active for the post-race with Marc Fein, they could let Weber and company go and Fein, Larry McReynolds and the pit reporters could tell the tale. <br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-88679173286770257562009-06-16T09:34:36.258-04:002009-06-16T09:34:36.258-04:00Editor, Just so you know the Anon post you deleted...Editor, Just so you know the Anon post you deleted at 9:48pm was mine. Somebody else was rambling on also using an anon. identity. My post was factual about the drivers leaving in a hurry, I witness it 38 times a year. I am at every race working in the media and have been for 10 plus years. The interviews you see on the other shows are all taped in a 15-20 min. window after the race and played back as live interviews. I'll pick another identity this time. intheknowintheknownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-78831005698963732682009-06-15T21:35:33.171-04:002009-06-15T21:35:33.171-04:00again tnt was good.no dw praying and begging the g...again tnt was good.no dw praying and begging the great knaus and johnson was so smart.no bias for hendrick the big plus of tnt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-77216920885924346922009-06-15T21:05:19.557-04:002009-06-15T21:05:19.557-04:00anon 8:45, I am afraid u don't get it. Unless ...anon 8:45, I am afraid u don't get it. Unless I pay mega-bucks in a crappy economy, I CAN'T get streaming ANYTHING at my home! And it's not just me. People are having to cancel their web stuff in order to pay their mortage! Wise up & get a REAL name, bud.<br />Off the soapbox now...sorry JD.PammHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05300459856268781781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-79596502207090493362009-06-15T20:45:11.271-04:002009-06-15T20:45:11.271-04:00JD,
You don't understand convergence. Its not...JD,<br />You don't understand convergence. Its not about bringing the exact same content, its about generating new, complementary, and specialized content across different delivery methods.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-13318200935339535552009-06-15T20:41:07.616-04:002009-06-15T20:41:07.616-04:00I wish someone would give Petty a "heads-up&q...I wish someone would give Petty a "heads-up" when he starts talking over the driver and crew chief radio chatter! He says he cannot hear them. It drives me nuts! He and Wally were doing a lot of talking at the same time, but yesterday I didn't notice it. <br /><br />I do appreciate how they respect the fact that there are 43 cars on the track and not the same 6 or 7!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-68099024165752909222009-06-15T20:27:51.971-04:002009-06-15T20:27:51.971-04:00I was disappointed that TNT left early an I had to...I was disappointed that TNT left early an I had to watch the rest of the post race online along with the media center interviews at the same time. How about a little better coordination with that one but I digress. The true test for me will be next week, I am going camping for the first time and will be internet and TV free until sometime late Sunday night. I will DVR the race and a few other things. Then I'll see if watching without multitasking still gives me everything I need and want to know,Newracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16324764517098771035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-37388400055867420082009-06-15T20:11:04.319-04:002009-06-15T20:11:04.319-04:00I know this is slightly off topic here, but it'...I know this is slightly off topic here, but it's still discussing TNT.<br /><br />At last week's race, Race Buddy apparently did a little thing by covering up Digger's hole. Such an insignificant thing, but maybe not for Fox's David Hill. In a comment that I feel is totally silly and adolescent, Hill says "Digger won't call. He won't take my calls. He's very upset at being mocked....". Hey David, maybe it's time you realized that most Nascar fans don't like your rodent and let it go at that.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16317806052595515449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48613012246742607172009-06-15T20:06:40.847-04:002009-06-15T20:06:40.847-04:00I was in and out watching the race because I perso...I was in and out watching the race because I personally don't find Michigan race any more exciting to watch than I do Pocono, so I had my computer on with racebuddy up and was listening to the scanner and watching my guy drive up from dead last. Considering how little TV coverage my favorite driver (Gordon) got except for the mentions that someone else noted, I'm glad I chose to do it that way. I was looking forward to the post-race coverage because TNT had extra time so I thought I'd get a little more than the usual soundbite since he finished 2nd, but nope AND it was taped because the interview on pit road was done right after he got out of the car and on racebuddy you could clearly see Jeff in VL congratulating Mark Martin.<br /><br />I was disappointed that once more TNT ran off like a spotted ape after the race was finished. That's when I want the most coverage, NOT for 5 hours, 5 HOURS before the race. Honestly, I do not plan to spend 9 hours of a summer Sunday glued to the TV set -- for an exciting race, yes, for pre-race AND race. NO!<br /><br />Otherwise, I agree with the great comments that others have mentioned.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5887265806149484982009-06-15T18:24:33.138-04:002009-06-15T18:24:33.138-04:00In the post race rundown, I could have sworn Weber...In the post race rundown, I could have sworn Weber mis-labled Martin for Ricky Rudd in the 5 car. Can someone confirm. Rudd has been out the car for over a year and out of the 5 car since 1994 or 1995.Weshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13859967814665428025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-14938387967079602092009-06-15T17:02:50.305-04:002009-06-15T17:02:50.305-04:00Anon 4:12PM,
I understand your point but just wan...Anon 4:12PM,<br /><br />I understand your point but just want to make one thing clear in my response. The true meaning of convergence is having the same content readily available from multiple sources. <br /><br />The problem in this case is that many folks do not have broadband access in or near the location where they view the race telecast.<br /><br />Had this race run past the originally scheduled time, TNT would have a leg to stand on. Unfortunately, this was over 20 minutes before the off-time.<br /><br />Moving cable TV viewers from one channel to another like ESPN does for the Nationwide races is tough enough, but moving NASCAR fans who just watched four hours of TV over to the Internet to see post-race interviews did just not cut it IMHO.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-30022917179207479372009-06-15T16:19:39.840-04:002009-06-15T16:19:39.840-04:00A GREAT job of directing...far better than anythin...A GREAT job of directing...far better than anything I've seen on FOX - or anywhere else, now that I think about it! Get Captain "Sing-Song" Weber off television completely and the TNT presentation would be super good. That sing-song delivery would get him flunked out of any legitimate broadcasting school.Dellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14045750655976055608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53932495186714267002009-06-15T16:16:55.685-04:002009-06-15T16:16:55.685-04:00Sorry! I meant TNT!!Sorry! I meant TNT!!Lesleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34976169960015977042009-06-15T16:14:03.070-04:002009-06-15T16:14:03.070-04:00I think the Fox team saved what was a very boring ...I think the Fox team saved what was a very boring race until the last lap of course..I think the current crop of cup drivers are just to good! making for little or no crashing at all! Take ARCA for example..Much less speed,many more crashes..Anyone of the top 25 cup drivers could step into any other form of racing,,F1,Indy..etc,and be at the front right away..The double file restart is a good direction to increase action that the fans crave for,but more has to be done..I say lets add another 50 HP to these cars and make things a little more intresting..Bill Elliot did 212 at taladega..This sport needs an anti boring program downloaded before It crashes!!Lesleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23774365753193361722009-06-15T16:12:50.106-04:002009-06-15T16:12:50.106-04:00The TNT post-race is just another example of conve...The TNT post-race is just another example of convergence. No need to hate it, embrace it.<br /><br />It may seem odd at first, though this needs to be encouraged. The more use we can get from alternate multimedia platforms the better.<br /><br />I have no problems with what TNT did. Who knows, a high Internet post-race show hit count may lead to something even bigger and better down the line.<br /><br />Enough of the nearsidedness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-50661047257624144762009-06-15T16:07:56.862-04:002009-06-15T16:07:56.862-04:00"Nothing to do with online services should ev..."Nothing to do with online services should ever affect a NASCAR TV broadcast. Nothing"<br /><br />Well said, JD. A TV broadcast should tell the story, the WHOLE story, and Nothing BUT the story. <br /><br />When TV starts relying on other sources to finish the tale, then TV is nothing more than a setup device. I shouldn't have to go elsewhere to hear the rest of the story, ever. <br /><br />Race Buddy is a good addition to the race coverage, but it doesn't, and shouldn't, make up for the failure to tell the tale on the broadcast. TV shouldn't be leaning so hard on this crutch in telling the story. <br /><br />I have Race Buddy, and have it set on Battle Cam, but I don't watch it unless the action on TV gets slow. Usually, the action is slow there, too. I won't go to it to get the whole picture because that's what the TV is supposed to do. And I certainly won't go to it to finish the story. That's as bad as switching networks in the middle of the race!<br /><br />I hope this isn't a trend because ESPN will be using it to drive up revenue for its lagging websites, if it is. If TV thinks this is a good idea, it'll be a bad deal for the fans, I guarantee.Mïknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-40776529426534333352009-06-15T14:58:22.276-04:002009-06-15T14:58:22.276-04:00I prefer Mike Joy & the FOX crew, but I find W...I prefer Mike Joy & the FOX crew, but I find Weber tolerable this year and I really enjoy Kyle.<br /><br />I missed some of the last 100 or so miles of the race, but I was glued to the TV for the last 10 laps. I thought it was super drama, really - much better than Ned winning at Darlington by 7 laps.<br /><br />Now the rapid TNT escape at the end of the race is something else.Richard in N.C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47522105046448978582009-06-15T14:53:58.238-04:002009-06-15T14:53:58.238-04:00Does the fact that Fox is a network station that b...Does the fact that Fox is a network station that broadcasts a signal and TNT is a cable only network get factored into ratings. (i.e., weighted average - number of households with the ability to see the race vs those that actually tuned in).<br />The fact that it was such a nice day on the East Coast plus it being a cable only network could explain why it was less than Fox's ratings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-37506117749847280682009-06-15T14:51:55.053-04:002009-06-15T14:51:55.053-04:00IMHO the 1st two TNT race broadcasts have been the...IMHO the 1st two TNT <b><i>race</i></b> broadcasts have been the best of the 2009 season so far. As an avid reader of NASCAR-related sites and blogs (especially TDP), I stopped watching the pre-race shows this year to avoid the repetition. I have thoroughly enjoyed the extra coverage provided by RaceBuddy not only during the race but afterwards as well. In fact, I would happily pay for it as a replacement for the TrackPass subscription I renew every year (especially if they would include the Scanner feature). That goofy-looking RaceView (which I don't pay for and never will) can't hold a candle to the real-time video stream provided by RB (or Side-by-Side for that matter). <br /><br />I ain't exactly happy about TNT cutting out early, but at least some sort of alternative source was available for a post-race recap. I wish that there was some way the TV broadcast entities could put the post-race show onto a "dark" channel for those folks who are unable to get broadband 'Net connections. But, alas, that's probably much easier said than done.bullittheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29447439069702324872009-06-15T14:47:57.881-04:002009-06-15T14:47:57.881-04:00It was a boring race but judging from past Michiga...It was a boring race but judging from past Michigan races I have watched, it has a higher probability of being boring than most tracks.<br /><br />TNT did the best they could with what they had to work with. Anyone who thinks Fox's buffoonish approach to race coverage is better, must like morning talk radio. It's just one yuk-yuk after another with Fox. At least TNT tries to cover the race and leave the clown antics to the pre-race show.<br />BTW, it was a boring race and it was a very quick race (thank God), therefore once the checkered flag flew I wasn't going to sit around and watch the post race show. It was a beautiful spring day out and there was still 3+ hours of sunlight. My point is, perhaps I wasn't the only one that bolted when the checkered flag waved. If that is the case and there is a noticable drop in ratings for the post race show, no wonder tnt doesn't stick around long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61712581536422013352009-06-15T14:47:34.105-04:002009-06-15T14:47:34.105-04:00I also don't understand the rush for TNT to ge...I also don't understand the rush for TNT to get off the air the last 2 weeks. I don't get too much into the post-race interviews unless there is a fight, controversy, or my guy wins the race. Still, it's not like they had to get to any valuable programming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-37303966310795948522009-06-15T14:33:16.623-04:002009-06-15T14:33:16.623-04:00I don't think this is a case of them dumping e...I don't think this is a case of them dumping early just to push the post-race show. I've said in other posts that TNT has done this every year of the new TV coverage, and decided to dig up the evidence today.<br /><br />Now, TNT didn't start doing an online post-race show until after the Daytona race in 2007. So for the 4 races before that, let's see if they left early then:<br /><br />For Michigan in 2007, TNT went off the air at 5:15. See http://dalyplanet.blogspot.com/2007/06/tnt-dumps-nascar-for-van-helsing-movie.html for details.<br /><br />The other races appear to have either went off the air on time or later than that.<br /><br />2008: Michigan again, 15 minutes early again: http://dalyplanet.blogspot.com/2008/06/tnt-catches-early-flight-out.html<br /><br />The other races they stuck with it, but it also looks like the other races didn't finish so early in their window.<br /><br />So, not saying don't complain about it, just saying it's nothing new, and that I'm still astounded that people are surprised by this.SonicADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06647057393154203533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-33792014212152239042009-06-15T14:13:01.998-04:002009-06-15T14:13:01.998-04:00If I had not seen the race on tv, I would have bee...If I had not seen the race on tv, I would have been glad that it was so good according to most of the comments. But I did see the race and thought it was very boring.<br /><br />I do agree that the best part of TNT booth is Kyle Petty. Though he does not stay on task (comments on ongoing race), he is so interesting. <br /><br />I still don't car for Wally or Weber. Since most folks seem to say they hated DW, Fox, and Digger, I have to wonder why NASCAR ratings on TNT were down 13% last week. Maybe it's something other than Fox.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27356496433821679452009-06-15T14:00:50.743-04:002009-06-15T14:00:50.743-04:00I really like TNT's coverage overall. I love ...I really like TNT's coverage overall. I love not having the screen cluttered with the scores from MLB, Soccer, and every other sport.<br /><br />But again, the racing was boring until the last 20 laps---same for Pocono and it's going to be even worse for Sonoma. When is Nascar going to wake up and realize that this car stinks and since the Chase format, these guys do nothing but points racing. When they're just driving around, trying hard not to screw up so as not to lose points for the Chase, you're not going to get great racing. Keep the Chase if you must, but do something that will make it more rewarding to race hard and win the friggin race. Sheesh, I hate points racing.<br /><br />But considering what TNT has to work with, they do an admirable job.darbarnoreply@blogger.com