tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post2975128072175924540..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Tuesday TV/Media NotesDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-66508668077484014092011-09-01T11:10:43.489-04:002011-09-01T11:10:43.489-04:00FABMASTER at 7:38 on 8/30/11 -
I am one of the ...FABMASTER at 7:38 on 8/30/11 - <br />I am one of the people who scoff at NASCAR's program to attract college students and commented to that effect above. I think that you misunderstand my motives and those of others.<br /><br />I WANT NASCAR to succeed. I WANT the sport to be financially healthy for all the participants. I WANT the sport to grow steadily or at least maintain its current level of fans. I WANT the sport to be respected. I WANT the fans to be respected. Those are the reasons fans read TDP and bother to make comments.<br /><br />However, that doesn't mean that I have to make happy talk and blindly suppport everything that NASCAR management does. In this case, NASCAR is going to spend a limited amount of money to grow the fan base through special programs. It's not like there will be an unlimited amount of money to fund hundreds of different programs. The university program looks like it is doomed to failure, and I would rather see NASCAR spend its money on some program that had a better chance of success.<br /><br />NASCAR management frequently demonstrates its lack of understanding of its fan base. I think some of it may be a generational issue, but other things make it appear that management only sees the sport as a product to sell. It appears that most of management doesn't really watch the sport or see it through the eyes of the fans. And at some level and in spite of what they say, they do not respect the fans.<br /><br />Fake debris cautions to manipulate a race may be the most obvious example. Someone in power thinks fans are too dense to notice, and the practice only disgusts fans and drives them away. Secret disciplinary action involving fines and probation also alienates fans. Allowing a few cup drivers to dominate the Nationwide series continues to push many fans away. NASCAR's reaction to social media also suggests that management is detached and just doesn't get it.<br /><br />I see the university program as just the latest example of NASCAR's detachment. I don't think they know how to attract and hold the interest of this generation of college students because they don't really understand them. <br /><br />I see no value or merit in encouraging someone about to embark on a foolish venture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-64793965247015322592011-08-31T16:16:00.650-04:002011-08-31T16:16:00.650-04:00Snooki will almost certainly be able to provide mo...Snooki will almost certainly be able to provide more coherent and substantive commentary than Rusty or Brad in the infield studio.<br /><br />I would like to see Nancy Grace go after Kyle Busch every time he intentionally wrecks a car that is in his way.<br /><br />The NASCAR U Crew is going to be a waste of money. The way to get the college crowd involved with NASCAR would be to give them weekend passes to the infield campground with a big supply of free beer and food.SD80MACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-15707545049152357032011-08-31T14:13:18.165-04:002011-08-31T14:13:18.165-04:00Rick Benjamin - great motorsports knowledge, good ...Rick Benjamin - great motorsports knowledge, good TV guy but NOT cut out for talk radio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35242900905183437282011-08-31T13:30:02.373-04:002011-08-31T13:30:02.373-04:00That recent post about Snooki is right on. I ever...That recent post about Snooki is right on. I ever watched Snooki on TV, but there's material on the internet where she demonstrates her acting talents. On the serious side, I wish Nascar and the Media would emphasize RACING and not hype. Here's hopin'....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-54013095173624174102011-08-30T21:14:58.032-04:002011-08-30T21:14:58.032-04:00And I quote:
"Yep, the controversial star of ...And I quote:<br />"Yep, the controversial star of The Jersey Shore is going to mount the starter's stand..."<br /><br />From what I gather, she has mounted just about everything else :)sbaker17https://www.blogger.com/profile/10234130094477084972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61124472138328766042011-08-30T20:17:59.181-04:002011-08-30T20:17:59.181-04:00I don't really have an issue with NASCAR givin...I don't really have an issue with NASCAR giving it the old college try. I don't have much hope...but you never know.<br /><br />Palmetto, she's only waving the flag, so far as I've read. <br /><br />John in Chico...I'm not a car person. Not a gearhead, don't mess with cars, not loyal to one brand, just take them in & keep them running. Just a way to get places. Yet I am still a race fan. I don't play football but I like to watch. And where are all those Northern Californian fans? Can barely keep Fontana open. Owning a car has NOTHING to do with being a race fan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-20909764339653993212011-08-30T19:38:58.223-04:002011-08-30T19:38:58.223-04:00I'm curious as to why all you NASCAR haters co...I'm curious as to why all you NASCAR haters complain about "they aren't doing enough to grow the future of the sport" Then complain when they announce this college program. They are trying something that hasn't (to my knowledge) been tried before. I know that from working in Drag Racing, there are those interested in Motorsports Marketing and they don't have many options geared to them. So they take sports marketing classes then have to intern somewhere to learn the motorsports side.<br /><br />As a business owner myself I can tell you that I have tried many things that failed. But I have NEVER succeeded when I didn't try something.<br /><br />Alfabmasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15152030044764497793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23429297597863991822011-08-30T19:32:38.168-04:002011-08-30T19:32:38.168-04:00I don't know who Nancy Grace, Snooki, or Rick ...I don't know who Nancy Grace, Snooki, or Rick Benjamin are, and the comments by the other Planeteers don't make me burn with desire to find out. Darcie, if she can't name five drivers then she'll be know different from half a dozen others who have given the command this year.<br /><br />hannahanderson, many of us face the same obstacle and find the same solution: if you can just get them to the track, you've got 'em. I start potential fans with a Truck or Nationwide race. The tickets are cheaper, the races are shorter, and there are usually more wrecks (which newbies enjoy until they learn to appreciate rubbin' without wreckin').<br /><br />JD, thanks for the heads up on 'The Day'. I've already got the DVR set.Palmettonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43414859482639550612011-08-30T18:39:23.492-04:002011-08-30T18:39:23.492-04:00NN taking it on the chin? That's an understat...NN taking it on the chin? That's an understatement. Even when we recorded the show it was poker instead of a show about Nascar racing. And a comment abouty DWTS that I have never watched, there are sure more interesting stars on it this year I saw mentioned on yahoo.Vicky Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13084198036514255332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-83329714398682354832011-08-30T17:18:27.510-04:002011-08-30T17:18:27.510-04:00Great column JD! Looks like the
myriad of marketin...Great column JD! Looks like the<br />myriad of marketing geniuses at<br />NA$CAR are grabbing at straws again to enhance their stale product.<br /><br />As I commented yesterday, the ratio of racing to commercials continues to fall. It would be interesting if someone with previous years of data would do a calculation of the declining race viewing time compared to the declining viewership. I'm sure NA$CAR has the data but it probably is clouded by all their trips to the bank.52yr. fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-6730227052124702782011-08-30T17:02:40.891-04:002011-08-30T17:02:40.891-04:00George Pyne -IMG grabs UPS away ?
Mark Dyer - IM...George Pyne -IMG grabs UPS away ? <br /><br />Mark Dyer - IMG now handling Danica Patrick ?<br /><br />Both of these guys use to be BZF's right hand men but bailed on NASCAR. <br /><br />Aside from Mike Helton - it's clear that all of Brian France's executive staff have no sense of the sport.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-6647643983957070922011-08-30T16:55:26.385-04:002011-08-30T16:55:26.385-04:00Do you think UPS will stay with Nascar that would ...Do you think UPS will stay with Nascar that would suck if notJonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-2350748163679182762011-08-30T16:07:27.377-04:002011-08-30T16:07:27.377-04:00and if we are going to talk about Nancy Grace, ugh...and if we are going to talk about Nancy Grace, ugh, well, talk about a pit bull. I haven't watched DWTS often but sometimes it would be fun, but with that cast of characters, I won't be watching DWTS this year at all.<br /><br />dear heavens, that woman is just plain mean and vindictive. I agree with vince - when I see her face on TV, it makes me want to screamGinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/08428501118097469128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27389970968314019912011-08-30T15:46:21.204-04:002011-08-30T15:46:21.204-04:00NASCAR U CREW ?? Yet another absurd, crazy, far fe...NASCAR U CREW ?? Yet another absurd, crazy, far fetched, lame brain marketing idea from BZF and his "team" of experts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-52641270659793247692011-08-30T15:35:24.512-04:002011-08-30T15:35:24.512-04:00Glad to see that Atlanta race being highlighted. ...Glad to see that Atlanta race being highlighted. It remains the most memorable race I've ever seen.<br /><br />Who owns the NASCAR broadcasts and why do I have to wait for these specials. They have DVD sets of every crappy TV show that's ever been broadcast; where's the memorable races series? There's a special season wrap-up DVD being hawked the day after a Super Bowl/World Series win. Where's the NASCAR championship reel?Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10283047990239738052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23688809484824523152011-08-30T15:17:58.706-04:002011-08-30T15:17:58.706-04:00Like many others here, Snooki is of no interest to...Like many others here, Snooki is of no interest to me. Name recognition is only slightly above zero. As far as I know, she has no discernible talent or skill. She is famous for being famous. I guess Andy Warhol was right: Everyone will be famous for 15 minutes.<br /><br />If all of Snooki's fans tune in, NASCAR's problems will be over as they lock up the MTV generation. And if all the fans of pistachios tune in as well, the France family will need a new fleet of trucks to haul their money to the bank.<br /><br />NASCAR's program to raise interest in college students is dead on arrival. I haven't heard anything this lame since Indy Car announced they were going to promote the series with the Gene Simmons song "I Am Indy". I'm sure Simmons cashed his check, but the results for the series were less than spectacular. Some promotional company will cash the check from NASCAR for the college program, and the results will be the same as Indy Car. By the way, when is the last time you heard someone humming "I Am Indy"?<br /><br />The remarks regarding UPS sound ominous to me. It sounds like UPS may stop sponsoring an individual car and move to the sanctioning body. If so, it will be added to the list of sponsors who have been siphoned away from race teams and put in NASCAR's pocket. NASCAR can always be counted on to go for the short term gain at the expense of the long term health of the sport.<br /><br />If you need an illustration of maximizing short term gain at the expense of long term health of the sport, just look at the present television contract. Brian sits back and counts his money while the sport slowly sinks, thanks in part to the terrible broadcasts of races.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-72783768739540054042011-08-30T15:10:09.810-04:002011-08-30T15:10:09.810-04:00You know what's funny? I know people that are ...You know what's funny? I know people that are actually going to tune into the race just to see Snooki there. lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47532709480382300042011-08-30T12:35:40.657-04:002011-08-30T12:35:40.657-04:00DWTS, watched maybe 5 minutes of the first show an...DWTS, watched maybe 5 minutes of the first show and heard groaning from the Better Half, changed the channel and haven’t been back since. Caught a segment of Nancy Grace on the former Headline News, now known as HLN. HLN is no longer a news outlet and is filled with screaming (Talking) heads. And Ms. Grace’s abuse of her guests, even more reason to not watch the show.<br />Snooki, do not watch MTV, MTV doesn’t show music videos and well, I don’t care what they do, we don’t watch.<br />College students and NASCAR, when I got my drivers license I couldn’t wait to get a car. I had a nothing job but it was enough to buy a cheap car for a few hundred bucks, insurance was cheap enough to afford and of course gasoline was cheap enough to fill up the tank for less than $5. Out here in the west, Northern California if you don’t have a car, back then or now, you’re in big trouble getting around. You have to have personal transportation. Cars, even cheap used cars cost thousands of dollars these days, insurance, tires and gas are for those that have good jobs and lots of money. All of the above do not match a college students ability to purchase and operate a car, besides the fact that a new driver has to deal with some very aggressive and rude, if not threatening drivers.<br />None of the above makes for car nuts that we were and are. How many people that live in NYC and other Eastern large cities have cars? We’ve watched the Cash Cab show and it looks like there are more cabs than personal cars. Besides where do people park, without going broke paying for a parking spot?<br />Where in all of that do the car nuts and racing fans come from?<br />NASCAR Now, yep, it was to come on a 9pm here and what did I get after a replay of a tennis match? A riveting (presumably repeat) of a card game. More of the same from ESPN. Stick and ball, stick and ball, stick and ball and the occasional poker game. Riveting, exciting.<br />And people expected more? What, NASCAR should preempt a repeat of a poker game? Blasphemous….<br />The DVR is set, if it gets poker then we don’t get to watch and whoever was advertising on that show did not get to us.<br />Again the ONLY reason I have EVER watched ESPN is for is motor sports, Sports Center? Never watched, stick and ball. I had enough watching Bonds, Maguire and the bash brothers pump themselves up with drugs, not interested in taking time to watch cheaters and thugs and then have Sports Center glorify them.<br />Just some thoughts from a car nut.John in Chiconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-81235416063194346772011-08-30T12:03:16.885-04:002011-08-30T12:03:16.885-04:00@ anon & Buschseries61 - I love my Sirius radi...@ anon & Buschseries61 - I love my Sirius radio and the NASCAR channel. Most of the programming is great but I have to agree, the Tradin' Paint show at 11 am is the low point. You guys are spot on regarding Rick Benjamin and Chocolate Myers is a big NASCAR & RCR cheerleader. Neither of them handle the callers well at all. They do not encourage different points of view - it's their way or you get cut off. <br /><br />Granted, on these call in shows there are some callers who are from outer space but the other hosts have the flair to handle them in a humorous manner. <br /><br />Kudos to the other shows but Tradin Paint is due for a revamp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9651748736827164132011-08-30T12:00:03.400-04:002011-08-30T12:00:03.400-04:00I took a look at the list of schools that are &quo...I took a look at the list of schools that are "participants" in this lunacy of U Crew and I can't see any of the kids at those schools being interested. U of New Hampshire? Get serious. U of Delaware? Come on. The U's of Kansas, North Carolina and Illinois will be too busy with their sports teams, especially basketball. I agree with the author of the original article who says the whole thing sounds lame, especially the name of the thing. Nascar is grasping at straws here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-69087741281651023832011-08-30T11:56:34.228-04:002011-08-30T11:56:34.228-04:00Jayhawk...
If it makes you feel any better, I hav...Jayhawk...<br /><br />If it makes you feel any better, I have spent many a day cleaning off my monitor due to some of the hilarious comments made here. We're going to have to ask JD put up a warning or something. ;-)KoHoSohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457687879505057220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-2853509076668605812011-08-30T11:54:33.077-04:002011-08-30T11:54:33.077-04:00Just wondering...does Snookie know the difference ...Just wondering...does Snookie know the difference between splitter and a tire iron? I wonder if she can name at least 5 drivers? Probably not. But if you ask her to name five alcohol beverages, she'd pass with flying colors.<br /><br />As for the U Crew, give me a break. Unless it involves copious amounts of alcohol and putting the Sprint girls in bikinis, forget it. It's a stupid move. Of course if this U Crew thing includes free tickets to the races, free beer and food, you're not going to get any interest. College kids, at least at my alma mater Wisconsin, only care about the football, hockey and basketball teams. You're not going to infuse any interest in Nascar, especially at schools where the stick and ball sports rule the day. <br /><br />Love "The Day" especially this new one focusing on one of my favorite drivers, Alan Kulwicki, Mr Polish Lap, himself. Should be an excellent show.Darcienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-40699619919843185872011-08-30T11:28:19.294-04:002011-08-30T11:28:19.294-04:00GINA V 24 . Happy to see you made it through the s...GINA V 24 . Happy to see you made it through the storm. North of you got clobbered. I hope Rusty has his arm around BRAD when he departs. It would not surprise me if SNOOKY gets an analyst job, she would fit right in.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00077528082787084016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80476670902592303702011-08-30T11:00:23.064-04:002011-08-30T11:00:23.064-04:00Roland - Nancy Grace paired with Marty Reid, hilar...Roland - Nancy Grace paired with Marty Reid, hilarious!<br /><br />I have the same situation at college here in NY. It is rare to see 'professional' men and women into NASCAR here. College kids just don't care about the sport either - unless you travel closer to Riverhead. Baseball, football, hockey & basketball are popular instead. All the NASCAR promotions, t-shirts & gear have been gone for half a decade unless you travel to small die-cast stores out east. NASCAR has a lot of work to do to catch this age group.<br /><br />Anon 8:57 - I was on vacation last summer without cable tv & happened to listen to Benjamin & Chocolate Meyers. It was horrible. Rick would speak over callers that didn't have his viewpoint. He was convinced the sport was as great as it's ever been. So he carried a negative attitude towards callers that wished NASCAR would go back to it' roots. He's another: 'if you don't like _____, you're not a fan of NASCAR.' I've never listened to his show again.Buschseries61noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-72648401821886315812011-08-30T10:56:24.298-04:002011-08-30T10:56:24.298-04:00KoHoSo:
Please do not say things like that when I...KoHoSo:<br /><br />Please do not say things like that when I am drinking coffee while reading things on my computer. It hurts my nose and my budget for new keyboards is limited.Jayhawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00756807802218022043noreply@blogger.com