tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post3306044204736716092..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Road Course Challenge Not Just For DriversDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-2183964945446818162008-08-13T03:29:00.000-04:002008-08-13T03:29:00.000-04:00I was not sure where to post this, here on in the ...I was not sure where to post this, here on in the roundtable commetns. But my comments are about the poor quality of the coverage durring the race so I'll post here. <BR/><BR/>I do not know home many times I'll be watching ESPN and hear driver D is passing driver Z, when in reality, and with the pictures we are seeing on the tv is is driver Z passing driver D. I know this is a small thing, but this is the "meat and potatoes" of calling a race. If ESPN can not get that right what can we expect?<BR/><BR/>The bottom ticker is something NASCAR needs to tell ESPN it can not use durring the races.<BR/><BR/>For this weekends race I am going to just watch the round table show. They actually show more of the racing in one hour than did the crew durring the entire race! (ala Jeff Gordon being taken out by Robby Gordon)<BR/><BR/>Annon @8/10 9:26 PM<BR/><BR/>I think if ESPN and all of the networks would broadcast in letter box fasion it would be better for everyone. This would allow the boxes to be bigger on HD TV's and also make it so those of us who do not get ESPN HD (and TNT HD for that matter) to see the whole picture. Fox should also do this. It will just make better use of the space on the TV screen.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03963617760442852143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-79323400542342899442008-08-11T19:53:00.000-04:002008-08-11T19:53:00.000-04:00Haus and Ken,Thanks for bringing up the lap counte...Haus and Ken,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for bringing up the lap counter issue. Even when I know how many laps the race is, I still can't do the math. Must be a blonde thing.<BR/><BR/>Let's hope the ESPN suits make these changes so our race viewing is more pleasurable. I'm not holding my breath.Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-45106578159959911492008-08-11T18:09:00.000-04:002008-08-11T18:09:00.000-04:00It occurs to me that part of the problem is that E...It occurs to me that part of the problem is that ESPN, using the football model,is trying to have SIX guys in the booth (two booths, but still), when three will do.<BR/><BR/>This is part of the more-is-NOT-better problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38151856085220719252008-08-11T16:51:00.000-04:002008-08-11T16:51:00.000-04:00Two things were wrong with this week end (sunday)f...Two things were wrong with this week end (sunday)first of all it was a road race? and second it was televised by ESPukeNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48999467640965469422008-08-11T16:12:00.000-04:002008-08-11T16:12:00.000-04:00wouldn'tKenny - Pacific Time Zone, Alameda, Califo...wouldn't<BR/><BR/>Kenny - Pacific Time Zone, Alameda, CaliforniaKenn Fonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381315903467639353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34649726183414550092008-08-11T16:11:00.000-04:002008-08-11T16:11:00.000-04:00Haus,Good point. I think all networks should pick ...Haus,<BR/><BR/>Good point. I think all networks should pick one method of displaying the number of laps either completed or to be raced and then stick with it as a permanent protocol through the season.<BR/><BR/>In fact, I would mind seeing one of those little thermometer diagrams showing what portion of the race is completed and what remains.<BR/><BR/>By the way, is anyone interested in doing a live site with pit stop information for the field or even just the Chase and bubble drivers? Is it possible to get that information without being present at the track press room?<BR/><BR/>Kenny - Pacific Time Zone, Alameda, CaliforniaKenn Fonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00381315903467639353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57898210877558396802008-08-11T14:51:00.000-04:002008-08-11T14:51:00.000-04:00Well it is good to be back...I had to do a laptop ...Well it is good to be back...I had to do a laptop harddrive transplant, but I digress.<BR/><BR/>Since I have not really been on the Daly Planet since ESPN took over, here is what I have noticed. <BR/><BR/>It seems that Dr. Punch is watching a completely different race. He seems to make so many off the wall statements trying (i guess) to sound excited. He references guys coming up through the field when at the time they are farther back than where they started...how did they get there?<BR/><BR/>No real coverage on who was on what pit strategy. No coverage on why different drivers went a lap down.<BR/><BR/>No real coverage on how the "ringers" were doing coming through the field.<BR/><BR/>On top of that, the cameraman in the tech center or maybe the director of that camera need to rehearse the shots they are going to use before they go to Brewer. You never can see what Brewer is trying to point out.<BR/><BR/>Using a wide shot to point to the brake bias knob and the brake components under the hood doesn't work...either tighten the shot or don't do the piece...it was pointless.<BR/><BR/>A general pet peeve for all of the networks...if you are going to change the lap counter when there is less than 100 laps to go to a lap countdown, please talk in those terms when you are explaining which lap a driver has to pit on or which lap he last pitted on...when the upper left of the screen says 87 to go and you are telling me that the driver has to pit or last pitted on lap 213, that doesn't do much for me. I don't have the total laps of every race memorized. Keep it as how many laps ran out of how many total.<BR/><BR/>I too often wonder why there is soooooooooo much pre-race speculation and so little post-race reality. I hope that they do get that fixed for 2009.Haus14https://www.blogger.com/profile/06348382223779617438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-10273202760828668962008-08-11T12:28:00.000-04:002008-08-11T12:28:00.000-04:00I think it was coming here I found out Robby/ie G...I think it was coming here I found out Robby/ie Gordon spun out Jeff on the last lap. I saw dust on the tv towards the back but never a mear mention.<BR/><BR/>Oh and speaking of camera work, even NBC HIGH RATED olympics has horrible camera work. The girls doing gymnastics: all you see is their facial expression as they run to that vaulting thing (I don't watch this but room mate has a relative into gymnastics) So the whole time you are thinking WIDE ANGLE SHOTS please.<BR/><BR/>Thought it was just a NASCAR deal.<BR/><BR/>sighSophiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789033556426951026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-10001628464198719522008-08-11T12:03:00.000-04:002008-08-11T12:03:00.000-04:00The race itself was not bad.But ESPN's coverage re...The race itself was not bad.<BR/><BR/>But ESPN's coverage reminded me of how right Randy Pemberton was on TP when he said the TV people need to stop just covering the top 10 drivers (and the wrecks).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-31661645243260416432008-08-11T09:32:00.000-04:002008-08-11T09:32:00.000-04:00I thought the coverage was pretty bad -- I was ins...I thought the coverage was pretty bad -- I was inside (again) because it was storming on Sunday, so I once more tried watching the race on ESPN, but I wound up using the computer with raceview and the scanner so I could actually follow "my" driver since the TV broadcast was only follow their chosen storyline. I thought it was an incredibly boring race and the PXP done by Punch is just not interesting. I think DJ and Petree do a good job and you can't beat Allen Bestwick (although I can skip listening to Rusty and Brad). The fact that there wasn't any follow up of what happened to Jeff Gordon, who whether you like him or not, IS an awesome road course racer was quite an oversight. One the whole, all the racing has been boring this year, once more we pretty much had a follow the leader race.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-87461309544072023632008-08-11T09:28:00.000-04:002008-08-11T09:28:00.000-04:00The coverage was better than Saturday, but all the...The coverage was better than Saturday, but all the things that were wrong in the booth are still wrong.<BR/><BR/>Anon 9:26 said<BR/>"I think that you might be seeing the dawn of a new kind of booth in sports. The days of the PxP guys doing most of the talking and the "expert" chiming in once in a while might be what you're used to, but I like the "conversation" that Dale and Andy have during the race. I feel like I am sitting on the couch in the same room with them. It's comfortable. Then JP chimes in with the set up, or the stat, or the promo in classic "Cliff Claven" fashion. Every group has one. Why not the ESPN announce booth." <BR/><BR/>No offense, but if this is some new paradigme ESPN is tring to develop it is assinine. NASCAR has WAY too many moving parts to accomodate a 'conversation' in the booth. That is what your friends are for when you're watching the race together. I don't want to be so busy tring to determin what is going on ontack or in the pits that I CAN'T have a convesation with my friends. Frankly, the FOX guys have a conversation too, they just care what their talking about and have their heads in the WHOLE game as we all do. If the picture I am watching doesn't show me something noteworthy, I am dependent on the booth to WATCH THE WHOLE TRACK AND TELL ME WHERE TO LOOK OR REFOCUS MY ATTENTION.<BR/><BR/>"If you put AB in the booth, you lose him in many of his other roles. He is awesome in the pit studio, and he really shines in his Monday role in Bristol." <BR/><BR/>Again, no offense, but if ESPN would stop living in denial and put the proper resources in North <BR/>Carolina where EVERYONE IS, AB could, and I believe would, do both.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for yelling JD but I am just sick to death of trying to watch a race with Jerry Punch. With all the things that are shakey with NASCAR right now you would think Brian France would be taking note of the complaints about the coverage, I know his Daddy would have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-82783531309059848472008-08-11T09:27:00.000-04:002008-08-11T09:27:00.000-04:00Strick says it best - the coverage with Dr. P at t...Strick says it best - the coverage with Dr. P at the helm was a mess. Once again, ESPN is NOT seeing the forest through the trees - put AB in in place of Punch and they'll get it right. DJ and Andy continue to be a joy and with AB - as I've said before - it would be an unbeatable triumvirate. Punch is just plain tired - and it shows every time he opens his mouth. If ESPN wants to keep the viewers they've got to make the switch in the booth and make it now - don't wait for 2009 - we deserve the best talent available who can give us what we want - clear and concise coverage - so make the change NOW before Punch completely mires the whole network 'team' in the mud once again. Thanks JD for letting us sound off!chasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10751889821381250237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-40002545056995883232008-08-11T01:37:00.000-04:002008-08-11T01:37:00.000-04:00I thought that the the good Doctor made a strange ...I thought that the the good Doctor made a strange statement regarding Dale Jr's point situation. After he was caught out on the caution, a big deal was made about him slipping down 2 places. Do they understand how the point system is set up? As it stands now no matter where he finishes he will be no better than 4th when the points are reset. The Shrub, Cousin Carl and Jimmie J all will have more bonus points than Him. <BR/><BR/> Just thought that it was funny that they overlooked and never corrected this issue. <BR/><BR/> Frank in SebringAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43986042703814373262008-08-11T00:39:00.000-04:002008-08-11T00:39:00.000-04:00Anon: I think that you might be seeing the dawn of...<B>Anon: I think that you might be seeing the dawn of a new kind of booth in sports. The days of the PxP guys doing most of the talking and the "expert" chiming in once in a while might be what you're used to, but I like the "conversation" that Dale and Andy have during the race. I feel like I am sitting on the couch in the same room with them</B><BR/><BR/>I think you might be right, and I do enjoy the conversation between AP and DJ. However, there needs to be an even balance between the conversation and the PxP. I just hope ESPN finds that before we get to Homesteadalexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12233729764999778397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-17184148069560648972008-08-11T00:06:00.000-04:002008-08-11T00:06:00.000-04:00I would guess that ESPN would have had a great pos...<B>I would guess that ESPN would have had a great post race had it not been for the almost hour long red-flag.</B><BR/><BR/><BR/>The red flag was the only thing keeping them on the air for the scheduled time. If the race ended without the red flag it would have been roughly an hour before the end of the scheduled broadcast, and you can bet ESPN would only have a 10 minute postrace before moving to the 90 minute impromptu Sportscenter.<BR/><BR/>Sure, it would have been a longer postrace than we had, but not long enough to fill up the 45-60 minutes that would have been left for the program to finish. <BR/><BR/>One of the TNT races (forgive me, I forget which one), ended around 5:20 and had a long postrace show until 6:00 when the scheduled time was over for the broadcast. That will <B>never</B> happen on ESPN, as they have too many more important sports to show us than to interview drivers for half an hour.<BR/><BR/>It's just one of the necessary evils of a sports network that tries to cover everything. Damn TV contract....alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12233729764999778397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-77301557744066607622008-08-10T23:42:00.000-04:002008-08-10T23:42:00.000-04:00I think that you might be seeing the dawn of a new...<B>I think that you might be seeing the dawn of a new kind of booth in sports. The days of the PxP guys doing most of the talking and the "expert" chiming in once in a while might be what you're used to, but I like the "conversation" that Dale and Andy have during the race. I feel like I am sitting on the couch in the same room with them</B><BR/><BR/>Oh, I hope not. See, if I'm not at the racetrack, I need someone to tell me what's happening o the track, not just talk about racing in general. <BR/><BR/>This lack of focus on the track is what drove me to listen to MRN while watching ESPN today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-62969178611029720492008-08-10T23:39:00.000-04:002008-08-10T23:39:00.000-04:00I would guess that ESPN would have had a great pos...<B>I would guess that ESPN would have had a great post race had it not been for the almost hour long red-flag.<BR/></B><BR/>Today, perhaps, but what's been their excuse for every other race they've broadcast prior to this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23864936131772091302008-08-10T23:10:00.000-04:002008-08-10T23:10:00.000-04:00If I didn't have HotPass and FoxTrax today I would...If I didn't have HotPass and FoxTrax today I would have been lost. On HotPass you usually have three screens - one for the ESPN coverage, one in car and the other a wide shot with that driver. It's very easy to follow any of the cameras. When I switched over to the ESPN audio it was like a totally different race was being called.<BR/><BR/>It seems to me like ESPN is trying to do too much during a broadcast. Go back to the basics - good camera work and timely cuts. Look at the racing in the pack. Let the race itself be the star. Have someone track the pit stops and pass on some strategy. <BR/><BR/>ESPN has improved from last year but they could really take some pointers from the TNT coverage this year.bevohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07186936436307739896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-50886567987632668342008-08-10T22:44:00.000-04:002008-08-10T22:44:00.000-04:00JD- Thank you. I appreciate the picture and all yo...JD- Thank you. I appreciate the picture and all your efforts. Do you get to eat during the weekends? Your efforts here are really exceptional. You make The Daly Planet stand head and shoulders above others. I just checked another blog by a respected journalist and it has already disintegrated into a name-calling food fight.Thank you.<BR/><BR/>The Daly Planet attracts intelligent exchange. I sure am glad there are other blogs to attract others.<BR/><BR/>After ESPN-2007, there is always reason to have hope.<BR/><BR/>Also, I finally found a report that Bobby Labonte was released from the hospital.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-84341786148088450942008-08-10T22:40:00.000-04:002008-08-10T22:40:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-6807447604783847582008-08-10T22:12:00.000-04:002008-08-10T22:12:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02009046883462925303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-14487499713071339932008-08-10T21:47:00.000-04:002008-08-10T21:47:00.000-04:00Anon 9:26PM,No problem with the rant, but I do wan...Anon 9:26PM,<BR/><BR/>No problem with the rant, but I do want to address two things.<BR/><BR/>First, keep guys like Mike Joy, Rick Allen and AB in your mind. Instead of letting the PXP lapse into a relaxed conversation, they keep the story unfolding on the track and in the race up to date. <BR/><BR/>That is what I miss with this ESPN approach. While they focus on one thing, the rest of the race seems to be passing them by.<BR/><BR/>Second, if we as fans sat through the garbage that ESPN tried to deliver as "NASCAR Now" and the Sprint Cup coverage last season and then we returned for 2008, I assure you we must have very open minds.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56264817798568280562008-08-10T21:42:00.000-04:002008-08-10T21:42:00.000-04:00The race coverage was much better today,Sophia &am...The race coverage was much better today,<BR/><BR/>Sophia & Strick,<BR/>Ditto on the split screen during the green flag. <BR/><BR/>With 4 minutes left after KyB got to VL, I almost thought they weren't going to interview him. What I want to know is, would it have hurt anything if the 90 minute Sport Center started late? I don't watch it, do they repeat stories in that 90 mins?<BR/><BR/>Regarding the "bottom line", football and olympics is probably why it was on all race.<BR/><BR/>One more thing. The LeMans something race was on SPEED. You should hear how those guys in the booth get excited. Don't know who they are offhand but, they could hardly contain themselves.Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74978113857317333512008-08-10T21:26:00.000-04:002008-08-10T21:26:00.000-04:00I would guess that ESPN would have had a great pos...I would guess that ESPN would have had a great post race had it not been for the almost hour long red-flag.<BR/>I agree with Boyd's post from earlier...not much excitement in the first few ESPN races and it certainly isn't ESPN's fault.<BR/><BR/>I think that you might be seeing the dawn of a new kind of booth in sports. The days of the PxP guys doing most of the talking and the "expert" chiming in once in a while might be what you're used to, but I like the "conversation" that Dale and Andy have during the race. I feel like I am sitting on the couch in the same room with them. It's comfortable. Then JP chimes in with the set up, or the stat, or the promo in classic "Cliff Claven" fashion. Every group has one. Why not the ESPN announce booth. <BR/>If you put AB in the booth, you lose him in many of his other roles. He is awesome in the pit studio, and he really shines in his Monday role in Bristol.<BR/><BR/>Open your minds and enjoy the show. Agreed, JP could be more excited, but I bet if you met him on the street, he'd be the same as he is in the booth. <BR/><BR/>One more thing...<BR/>If you (the royal you) don't like the qualifying coverage because it in the little box with all the graphics around it, why do you want 2 little boxes for pitstops. It's the leader by himself in a little box and a pitstop you can't see because its in a little box. I bet ESPN pays handsomely to broadcast in HD and yet you want that beautiful detailed dance called a pitstop squeezed into a little box while some graphic backround fills my great big HDTV screen? If something happens on the track worth being missed, I bet you will get a replay. Otherwise, give me my 16:9!<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the rant JD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63032729743532232022008-08-10T21:04:00.000-04:002008-08-10T21:04:00.000-04:00Is there an alternate-universe board out there whe...Is there an alternate-universe board out there where everyone praises Punch's PBP, thanks ESPN for only showing the top-10 drivers in each race, and congratulates ESPN for getting out of each race as fast as they can?<BR/><BR/>I can't imagine there being such a board, but ESPN must be reading it, because otherwise the network would have to admit it is ignoring what everyone--the viewers who would keep them in business--is clamoring for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com