tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post3616980927372219338..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Crunch Time For The "B Team"Daly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29102880534300547042010-07-19T20:14:58.176-04:002010-07-19T20:14:58.176-04:00Craven's the shining star - smooth, unassuming...Craven's the shining star - smooth, unassuming, experienced, and professional. He should have THREE contracts covering all of next year. His analysis has proven that most every other commentator is unneeded.<br /><br />Shame for the struggling Nationwide teams who did not need to lose a car as a result of the rage of a bonehead Cup infiltrator. <br /><br />@Martin Vincent, 11:51 am:<br />Perfect, absolutely perfect!Tridentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8881468184004493732010-07-19T18:12:19.885-04:002010-07-19T18:12:19.885-04:00Interesting to note that neither ESPN2 nor Speed w...Interesting to note that neither ESPN2 nor Speed were able to post the complete starting linueps for their respective races due to technical difficulties. Also, there was no rundown ticker for the Nationwide Series finish. Not that anyone noticed.[lol]<br /><br />ESPN did get the soundbite from the year from Bob Keselowski - "He's not going to kill my boy" or something like that.BWBarefoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01036243008335938017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63334115218954835192010-07-19T11:14:32.865-04:002010-07-19T11:14:32.865-04:00I'll take it one further about blatant wrecks ...I'll take it one further about blatant wrecks for the win. I don't think either third-generation Earnhardt (Kerry or Dale Jnr) has been the same since the K. Earnhardt-Alexander incident for the win at Charlotte in October 2001. The next spring at Sprint All-Star Race XVIII (as it's now referenced), Junior's actions going at the end of the race against Ryan Newman was evident that incident still affected him. <br /><br />And ironically, it as Junior who ended up with a mess at the end of Saturday, since it was Steve Arpin who took much of the hits other than Keselowski and Edwards, and Arpin drove Junior's #88 that race. Good run for Josh Wise too -- showed promise when he can drive in Junior's car.<br /><br />Of course, Junior's Daytona win was the first as a driver in a while, as for over two years all of his winning was as a Nationwide car owner, mostly with Keslowski winning in the #88, with a Mark Martin and Ron Fellows win each too.<br /><br />Maybe NASCAR needs to copy F1 and have a different ex-driver be in the stewards' tower to determine malicious driving. This last-lap crash was malicious, and he's made this move twice.Bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02366544608847776006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11481363889944344532010-07-19T10:20:45.001-04:002010-07-19T10:20:45.001-04:00Kurt Busch & Jimmie Johnson showed at Loudon &...Kurt Busch & Jimmie Johnson showed at Loudon "proper" bump and run racing, where the cars make contact and retaliate without trying to injure each other or collect half of the field. <br /><br />Carl Edwards blatantly bragging about his actions in Victory Lane ended any respect I had for him. His Victory Lane speech put him in the same class as Kyle Busch who wanted to "thank his haters, I mean fans." If it wasn't for the haters or the fans neither one of them would have a job. <br /><br />In 1991 NASCAR took away a win from Ricky Rudd at Sears Point after contact with Davey Allison that was no where near what happened on Saturday night. NASCAR parked Kevin Harvick for a Cup race after his actions in a Nationwide race (I believe with Biffle) a few years ago. Both of these penalties took place in a time when NASCAR let the drivers police themselves.<br /><br />If NASCAR does not take some type of action or stance on Saturday night, it's only gonna escalate until we see drivers injured or worse.CraigJLongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-86359712720799196652010-07-19T10:18:26.617-04:002010-07-19T10:18:26.617-04:00VERY impressed by Dave Burns, must admit I feared ...VERY impressed by Dave Burns, must admit I feared the worst when I heard he would be the play by play guy. Outstanding job! Ricky Craven should have been doing this for years, the guy has always been professional, unbiased, and very knowledgeable of any topic being discussed. Rusty Wallace, however, is terrible. I always thought the awkwardness that is ESPN was the reason he acts the way he does, but it's clear that's just how he is in general. His fake excitement and repetitive commentary is beyond annoying, and I smile every time he gets cut off in mid-sentence. Let the man just be an owner, his personality is garbage!! What would it take to bring Buddy Baker in the booth? Now THAT would be awesome!Bryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-41199562934839617502010-07-19T10:09:08.139-04:002010-07-19T10:09:08.139-04:00@VickyD 8:49,
I thought I was the only one who was...@VickyD 8:49,<br />I thought I was the only one who was sure that Cousin Carl was in the wrong all 3 times; nice to see someone else on my side.<br /><br />About the telecast, I thought Burns was very good for first time under the microscope. But Craven was the star. He seems to know how to talk right AT you, not above or below you, when he explains racing strategy, car setup, etc. I don't watch the weekday shows so I didn't know how good Craven was.<br /><br />About the end (JD please help because you've been in the truck); IMO, there was no excuse for ESPN not being ready to compile and run a highlight package of Carl-Kez at Dega and Carl-Kez at Atlanta. Would they have needed to call up NMG or Fox or are these highlights easily accessible? B-team or no, someone needed to call Bristol CT as soon as the yellow flew to get those uploaded.<br /><br />Finally, all those teams that took six-figure hits from Carl's petulance should show up with bills and lawyers at RFR's front door. I'm thinking specifically of Shelby Howard (a struggling team that has made a great turnaround after being kicked out of racing a few years ago) and Steve Arpin, whom Carl helped elevate to the NNS.<br /><br />Watching The Captain yesterday at Toronto, even though his man won, the other two crashed, and his facial expression made me believe that he's still seething about Saturday night.<br /><br />NASCAR has not given Penske a whole lot of love, and if Carl gets off scot-free again (which I think he will), RP may choose to team up with Bob Keselowski to mete out some frontier justice. Bob and Roger, you have my permission to "have at 'em."bowlalponoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-70936881751668561602010-07-19T09:36:30.012-04:002010-07-19T09:36:30.012-04:00Anon @ 1002: Punctucation is a wonderful thing. Di...Anon @ 1002: Punctucation is a wonderful thing. Did Dale <br />Earnhardt right hook every driver he didn't like into the wall? No. Every driver knows it is the most violent and vulnerable impact. His car hit the wall at Daytona at that angle, and it killed him. We lost many drivers in 1999-2000, but little was done to improve safety. It took Earnhardt's death to finally increase the safety of the sport. I'd hate to lose another due to pure stupidity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-4646659951677964252010-07-19T09:14:35.414-04:002010-07-19T09:14:35.414-04:00I only saw the last 15 laps or so of the race beca...I only saw the last 15 laps or so of the race because I was watching the Legends Million on SPEED (which was a good broadcast BTW). I thought Craven's call of saying Edwards' move was a mis-timed crossover move was off base. It was obvious what Edwards did was intentional. From what I saw of the race, the coverage wasn't too bad at all.MRM4https://www.blogger.com/profile/04045747192945960087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-45635913066261130722010-07-19T08:49:45.144-04:002010-07-19T08:49:45.144-04:00Darcie, Dave Despain was calling out Carl for bloc...Darcie, Dave Despain was calling out Carl for blocking Brad at the Talladega race and showing that Brad was holding his line and saying it was completely Carl's fault. Carl is simply a bully in this sport now he needs to be out of NW that's for sure. It sure will be interesting once the chase starts and whether he's in it or not and like you said Brad doesn't have anything to lose. And your comment about Dale Sr was right on. I remember after Terry Labonte was dumped by him at Bristol and they asked Terry about it and Terry said he always says he never means to dump other drivers and all Dale said was I was trying to rattle his cage. There are a lot of fans who never saw Terry & Dale race against each other either. I would like a comment by Penske or Roush or even Terry Labonte about Carl and see what they have to say.Vicky Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13084198036514255332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-45710377794372319722010-07-18T22:38:07.149-04:002010-07-18T22:38:07.149-04:00To Anonymous at 2:03 PM:
You said "BK tries ...To Anonymous at 2:03 PM:<br /><br />You said "BK tries to close the door. He does not have the room... He is simply too close to Carl to try to slide up in front... Now here Carl could have checked. He did not, he rose a little but the draft took him into BK's right rear..."<br /><br />Your analysis fell apart when Carl admitted wrecking him on purpose for what Brad did to him earlier in the lap. There's no closing the door, no sliding up, no draft. Brad gave Carl a textbook bump-and-run, so Carl got mad and dumped him. End of story, even according to Carl (to a certain degree).<br /><br />If you could remove the numbers and paint schemes and ask a group of knowledgeable NASCAR fans to point out which was the rookie and which was the veteran, my money says they'd get it completely backwards.<br /><br />NASCAR could gain big respect in my eyes if they would park The Carl for The Brickyard, but I'm not holding my breath. It would take more guts than they traditionally show.AndyPandynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-79871600571647355302010-07-18T22:33:38.029-04:002010-07-18T22:33:38.029-04:00Anon 10:02, if you know Nascar history, Dale Sr wa...Anon 10:02, if you know Nascar history, Dale Sr was reviled by a lot of people because of his overly rough driving. There were a lot of number 3 haters back then, and even a lot of the drivers disliked him. Sure, they may have respected his abilities, but they hated the way he punted other cars out of the way. Like many things in life, when a person dies young and tragically, perceptions change. Now, not many seem to remember that the Intimidator had a lot of enemies.<br /><br />BTW, Despain was great tonight. Pretty evenly divided as far as being for or against Carl. Dave was in the "Carl was totally wrong" camp.Darcienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-77545297135702028642010-07-18T22:02:38.239-04:002010-07-18T22:02:38.239-04:00SEE i thought Carl was in the wrong last night and...SEE i thought Carl was in the wrong last night and you say u lost respect for him and stuff but I think back to what Dale SR did and he turned people no one said much back then why is this sooo bad now in an era where the cars are so much safer and such:?????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-79079351932774138252010-07-18T20:00:15.349-04:002010-07-18T20:00:15.349-04:00Amen to Ken!
Good coverage throughout. I still do...Amen to Ken!<br /><br />Good coverage throughout. I still don't understand why ESPN sends the B-team to any race. I understand the contractual aspect but if you want to cover the series then cover the series.<br /><br />It's confusing and disjointing to have different people every week - and I think this contributes to the lack of a good Nationwide following (possibly as much as the Cup drivers participating).<br /><br />I'm so sick of Brad K. It goes both ways. It's not Carl's fault other spotters didn't keep cars away from hitting Brad. Brad hit Carl, Carl hit Brad. It's racing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76501807113155878672010-07-18T19:31:19.531-04:002010-07-18T19:31:19.531-04:00. . .
The broadcast was good, Craven was great, B.... . .<br /><br />The broadcast was good, Craven was great, Burns was OK, but Rusty needs another gig, he does not belong on TV.<br /><br />If NASCAR did not allow Cup regulars to run Nationwide races, we would be talking about something completely different.<br /><br />As far as the finish, it was classic NASCAR racing in its purest raw form. If Keselowski does the same thing to Edwards down the road, that will also be classic.<br /><br />Race on.<br /><br />. . .longtimeracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03867593056745774242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-41636559524121551682010-07-18T19:04:15.491-04:002010-07-18T19:04:15.491-04:00I've read some posts on here and across the we...I've read some posts on here and across the web.<br /><br />Let me put this into a different perspective.<br /><br />So you bump into someone in line. That person gets pissed goes out gets a gun and shoots you because they were disrespected by some delusional idea of how cool they are. <br /><br />Carl basically laid it out. If you touch his car he's going to wreck you. Because in theory any race is 'your race' no matter where you are in placement on the track. Just the slime fraud of a personality that he is makes it disgusting. It's irrelevant that its Brad. Its a matter of this idiot will take people out because he feels he owns the place. But obviously NASCAR, Owner and sponsors love the thug mentality because they aren't racing a peep.<br /><br />Shame for all the low dollar teams that lost cars because of someone's childish actions.Jimbaccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285247612540977600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-84164300560807722842010-07-18T18:28:51.723-04:002010-07-18T18:28:51.723-04:00ESPN has a history of not following through on int...ESPN has a history of not following through on interviews that are important, and they did it again last night. They needed to speak to the guys who were involved in the late wreck and get their perspective on Carl and his driving. They wasted a great opportunity for some real journalism. <br /><br />I think Dave Burns did a pretty good job with the play by play and Craven is a rising star. But Rusty needs to go. He cannot possibly be objective about anything on the track, and that's a detriment to the entire broadcast. <br /><br />To those who think that idiot Carl will receive a penalty, think again. It's already been announced that the powers that be have said "it's just racing". No matter that it was blatant and that there could have been serious injuries. I fully believe that the bozos LOVE this stuff and it will take a season ending injury, a fan's death or a driver's death before Nascar puts a stop to this lunacy. We all want to see great racing but none of us want to see an anger management needing jerk continue to be allowed to pull this crap.Darcienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-3324785856273788872010-07-18T17:34:07.782-04:002010-07-18T17:34:07.782-04:00So does this sort of attempted murder with Edwards...So does this sort of attempted murder with Edwards fit in with NASCAR's "have at it, boys" philosophy.<br /><br />After all, this isn't the first time he's done this stuff -- it seems that all these guys want to be the new intimidator on the track, epecially on the last lap. I know that Kez has had his fair share of run in's too and not always used the best judgment, but this was so blatant, that I'm having a hard time with it.<br /><br />I was out with friends and got back just in time to see the end of the race so I didn't hear all the play by play by Burns, but I sure did see things fall apart at the end in the booth.<br /><br />Craven made a mistake in trying to explain away Edwards actions and Rusty has no credibility with me at all in the booth, not only because he annoys me with his mannerisms but because he has the same conflicts of interest, actually more, than the Waltrip boys do when they call a race.<br /><br />Edwards seemed like a nice guy when he came into the series, someone that I could like and possibly cheer for. That is gone for me.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80761842707467283282010-07-18T17:28:59.072-04:002010-07-18T17:28:59.072-04:00Bob Pockrass has a good column on Carl & Brad ...Bob Pockrass has a good column on Carl & Brad re Gateway.<br /><br />It appears to me that Carl has no sense of perspective - Brad hit Carl with a fly swatter, so Carl hit him with a hammer, and endangered others besides Brad. Carl obviously has a temper and, it would appear, often acts without thinking long-range. He's battling to make the Chase in Cup and now has given Brad - and maybe other Penske drivers - a reason to give him a payback in a Cup race where it will do Carl more damage. Maybe Carl just wants to demonstrate how much everyone needs AFLAC insurance.<br /><br />I watched part of N-wide qualifying, part of pre-race and first part of race, and part of last 20 - 30 laps recorded. I thought the booth did a good job, but I believe it would have been much improved to have a crew chief in the booth to better address strategy. I wish L'EESPN would use Tim Brewer more and put him in the booth some.<br /><br />I have really enjoyed and been impressed by Ricky C's analysis since I found his columns on Yahoo a couple of years ago. I suspect Saturday will turn out to have been good for him as it appeared to me that he might have felt compelled to comment before he had a chance to adequately review the tape. With more booth experience I suspect he would have hedged his comments more until he had a chance to get a good look at the tape.<br /><br />I was never a Rusty fan and he obviously has an ego big enough to be in the media, but he still has a world of real experience. I find Rusty far more knowledgeable about his sport and far less biased than Skip Bayless and Ed Hinton.Richard in N.C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48506182496366529812010-07-18T16:30:34.219-04:002010-07-18T16:30:34.219-04:00I also really enjoyed the booth. Dave and Ricky d...I also really enjoyed the booth. Dave and Ricky did an outstanding job of calling the race and balancing with Rusty. Camera work was a B. Still too many in-car, single car, two car, roof cam, etc. You can pull the shot back and still show two cars racing. But do not get me wrong, the camera work was SO MUCH better than fox. Regarding the last lap, the booth trying to be nascar politically correct, plus trying to be semi nuetral, plus being tied directly to nascar bit them in the rear. At least they did not make fools of themselves. Based on Brad's past and actions in turns 1 and 2, he had/has it coming. Carl should know the front stretch was NOT the place to do it because of the safety reasons and all the other cars that would be involved. For this reason only, nascar should come down hard on him. Park him for at least two races (both nationwide and cup) and fine him $100,000.00. Carl should pay all the other teams their cost of replacing cars. It was a stupid, stupid move. There is a time and place for retaliation. That was not it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34403833548546988052010-07-18T14:55:41.455-04:002010-07-18T14:55:41.455-04:00I really enjoyed the trio in the booth, as well as...I really enjoyed the trio in the booth, as well as the pit reporters and of course the doctor. I know this is the "B" team, but I think it should be the <br />"A" team for the Nationwide Series.<br />Carl has finnally lost my respect, it took awhile, but last night was the last straw. I have always liked Brad and last night proved my point even more. His after the race interview was great considering.<br />Keep up the good work and Keep it WFO.<br />Kevinnscr2fnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09502900277576069249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-49696797332266140322010-07-18T14:43:58.272-04:002010-07-18T14:43:58.272-04:00I don't understand the bashing of Carl. He did...I don't understand the bashing of Carl. He did exactly what the good drivers "back in the good old days" did. If you messed with Dale Earnhardt, Bill Elliott, Cale Yarborough or many of the other great drivers of their day, you were paid back double. The other drivers quickly learned to not mess with them. The sissified NASCAR of recent years stopped hard racing until the "have at it" of this year. The ratings in recent years have shown what the touch football version of NASCAR racing gives us. People complain about the follow the leader racing and then complain when the drivers actually race to win. You can have the boring touch football version of racing or you can have the tackle full contact exciting version of racing. I think the attendance and TV ratings tells us what the public wants.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29177830180929299942010-07-18T14:38:55.578-04:002010-07-18T14:38:55.578-04:00I enjoyed Dave too! I think he did a decent job :)...I enjoyed Dave too! I think he did a decent job :).<br /><br />@Karen--I agree his name isn't that hard to say and he was scared to try Matt's which is actually *easy* to pronounce.<br /><br />I love Dad Bob! I hope he has a fan club now because I want to join it! <br /><br />Very disappointed in what happened last night, it was uncalled for. Sure being "upset" after being moved is understandable but you can move the other guy cleanly. Blatantly taking someone out as well as admitting it should get the win taken away. Roush and Penske have money but what about those innocent teams collected in the mess who don't have money growing on trees out behind the shop? They still need to make sure they have enough cars for the rest of the season as well as get the Pony cars ready.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-10731233753765554962010-07-18T14:10:23.978-04:002010-07-18T14:10:23.978-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-66742122216909054642010-07-18T14:03:55.467-04:002010-07-18T14:03:55.467-04:00Lot of complaining about Carl, but these guys have...Lot of complaining about Carl, but these guys have a history.<br /><br />Here was my thinking as I watched it unfold:<br /><br />As they lined up for the final restart I said to myself, "Self, this could be interesting."<br /><br />Then there was a nice clean restart, Carl held back, stayed away from Brad and let Brad have at least a front quarter-panel lead at the line. Then they raced. I said to myself, "So far so good, Self, let us see what happens when they are at speed."<br /><br />Then the contest started, still clean hard racing. BK leads, Carl edges up, Carl leads but cannot close the door. I say to myself, "Self, watch Brad."<br /><br />Sure enough in 1&2 on the last lap Brad does a Brad and tags Carl on the left rear, Carl wobbles and Brad gets ahead. I say to myself, "Self, you and me have never met Carl, but I can guarantee you he's pissed. I'd be if I were him."<br /><br />Now to 3&4. Checkers are in the air, Carl has recovered and though I didn't have telemetry I could see his right foot must have been through the floorboard. Carl is advancing, then he got the vscuum. BK is in clean air, but Carl is now riding the lightning. "uh, oh," I say to myself.<br /><br />BK tries to close the door. He does not have the room -- who told him he did or did he just think it I do not know. He is simply too close to Carl to try to slide up in front with Carl puttin' it all out and in the draft.<br /><br />Now here Carl could have checked. He did not, he rose a little but the draft took him into BK's right rear -- hard if you looked at Carl's left front after the race. Carl just pushed through and the rest, as I am sure Drs. Hawking and Einstein would tell us, was simple physics.<br /><br />Over my many many years as a race fan I've heard Dale Sr., Cale, Junior Johnson, etc. etc. criticized for this kind of thing, but that is racing. And I think Carl's message was clear -- do not mess with me or I'll mess back.<br /><br />BTW -- I wish Ricky Craven could be in the booth for every race -- and that would be a good question for here -- who would the Planeteers chose as the Dream Team for the booth?<br /><br />That's my 2 centsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16762700756718115482010-07-18T14:03:55.468-04:002010-07-18T14:03:55.468-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com