tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post3689636123581194448..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: In-Progress At Texas: Nationwide Series Race On ESPN2Daly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-82119693897739493412008-04-06T02:28:00.000-04:002008-04-06T02:28:00.000-04:00I am so sorry, maybe it was the pomegranate martin...I am so sorry, maybe it was the pomegranate martini after my 13 hour work day, but I think ESPN is trying to give me a stroke. The constant chit chat that has nothing to do with the battle on the track I found very irritating. The fact that they showed car about to battle for position and then dropped the ball about the out come. Again irritating. The fact that cars were out of the race by lap 12 with no news as to why. Yep you got it irritating. Then the ESPN goes for the kill with the Wimmer interview. Yes Nashville was a great race, yes there are more cup drivers in the race today vs 2 weeks ago, so MAYBE that means more people are watching today. BUT that is no excuse to use the last 20 laps to do this interview. To add insult to injury you could see cars racing in the background!!!!! (before the caution). Then just to make sure they finished you off we get the "Rowdy" recap. Couldn't that have waited for the checkered flag. I am sorry if I had been off work today I would have listened to this race on Sirius. I want to hear about the action ALL over the track. If ESPN tries this when they take over the cup race I will watch the race on my lap top, or listen to radio. I will not support their ratings this year with this kind of crap. They have improved in so many areas why not this?<BR/>Sorry to vent, that just burnt my toast.<BR/>KendriaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27364252266509240402008-04-06T00:42:00.000-04:002008-04-06T00:42:00.000-04:00Great finish. I counted 28 cars in view until the...Great finish. I counted 28 cars in view until they cut away. Yes, on the Wimmer interview. He isn't exactly an exciting personality, with no disrepect to him. But never on green flag run even if it's a favorite driver of mine. I hit the fast forward through the whole thing. It seems I may be the only poster with some criticism of the announcing. Andy is doing great. DJ needs some practice...too many words, too fast. I'm sure he will improve. Dr. Punch is such a nice man, but just doesn't add anything and I think he is trying to infuse some excitement (since he was criticized last year) but it doesn't sound real. The ESPN crew sound like announcers. The Fox crew sounds like 3 guys watching a race and we are listening in...IMO.<BR/><BR/>DianeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-25258764913459604192008-04-05T21:43:00.000-04:002008-04-05T21:43:00.000-04:00hey stricklinfan82! i guess for me the biggest iss...hey stricklinfan82! i guess for me the biggest issue that would need to be addressed by nascar is "what is the role of the busch series?" the answer to that question will drive the economics that concern the track owners, the viability of small, 1-car teams who only compete in busch, the ability of drivers to progress thru the various regional series and end up with a ride in busch/cup and probably 1000 other concerns.<BR/>the fuzziness of the purpose of busch -- aside from providing more racing -- is what's making it impossible to figure out how to present the series to the tv viewer. if it's "just another race" and is heavily populated by cup drivers, then focusing on whoever's at the top of the points for busch makes sense. but if it's intended to feed talent into cup, then changes must be made.<BR/>i like the idea of more busch stand-alone races: spreads the racing across more (generally smaller) venues and give busch teams the opportunity to prove themselves. not clear, tho', if the economics of such a plan are viable in this day and age. plus, quite a few of those smaller tracks have simply disappeared and it doesn't seem likely that busch stand-alone races could fill the mammoth tracks that cup racing requires.<BR/><BR/>ah well. if it were up to me? i'd split the 2 series completely, focus some media and $$ on the busch teams and revitalize the smaller, regional tracks to handle the racing. of course, i still go to my local dirt rack as much as i can so what do i know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-39461610055145564482008-04-05T19:31:00.000-04:002008-04-05T19:31:00.000-04:00red said... anon 5:06 & stricklinfan82: so here's ...<B>red said... <BR/>anon 5:06 & stricklinfan82: so here's my question about cup drivers competing in n'wide: what would happen if cup drivers were excluded from running n'wide unless they own the car they're driving? seems to me that ratings couldn't (necessarily) get worse & you might just get folks making an effort to watch the race b/c "their cup driver" won't be visible until sunday. <BR/>that being said: it would help if the coverage focused more on the fates of the n'wide guys. there's a bunch of good stories there and you can only build interest in the series by telling those stories. i agree that the cup guys are leading the series but they aren't -- in my opinion -- even supposed to be there! cup drivers get PLENTY of coverage on sunday! let's give the n'wide guys a shot at the spotlight.<BR/>maybe if someone did an in-depth piece about the struggles of the n'wide teams competing vs the cup teams, something could change. for example, are all teams using n'wide pit teams? or are there cup pit teams working n'wide duty?<BR/><BR/>April 5, 2008 5:15 PM</B><BR/><BR/>red,<BR/><BR/>My solution the Nationwide problem would be to go back to the way things used to be and only have a limited number of these races as "companion races". That way stand-alone Nationwide teams could win races and championships and attract enough sponsorship money to at least be respectable compared to the Cup teams.<BR/><BR/>Cup drivers winning races has been nothing new. The first 12 Busch races at Daytona were all won by Cup drivers (and Dale Earnhardt won that race 5 years in a row). Guys like Harry Gant, Mark Martin, Darrell Waltrip, and Geoff Bodine used to win almost every Busch race at Cup tracks like Michigan, Darlington, and Rockingham.<BR/><BR/>But the difference was the Busch-only teams would still win several races once they branched off and raced at tracks like Nazareth, Hickory, Myrtle Beach, and Milwaukee. And occasionally guys like Rob Moroso, Jeff Green, and Jason Keller were able to beat the Cup guys at the companion races. And it was always the Busch-only teams and drivers that won the championships.<BR/><BR/>Nowadays with almost every race being a companion races and Cup drivers and teams running the entire schedules, they win all but about 1-2 races a year, and take all of the top spots in the championship.<BR/><BR/>With the current "mini-Cup" schedule, teams like BACE Motorsports, PPC Racing, James Finch, Brewco, and Rensi Motorsports lost "their piece of pie" that they used to get from being the champions every year and winning multiple races when the Cup guys weren't in town. Now with Cup teams winning every race, filling up the top 10 spots in the points and in each week's race... there's little interest in companies sponsoring a Nationwide-only team that runs 15th every week behind 14 Cup guys and never wins a race or shows up in the top 10 in points.<BR/><BR/>That's one man's opinion anyway.stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63950832952714661412008-04-05T19:15:00.000-04:002008-04-05T19:15:00.000-04:00Sorry for the delayed comments again, I can't alwa...Sorry for the delayed comments again, I can't always watch every lap of these races live.....<BR/><BR/>I loved the coverage of the finish of the race. It was nice to see all of the battles to the line. I still think the vertical drop-down of finishing results as they trip the line would be better. The current horizontal graphic shows a delayed 1-5 then really quickly they're gone, then 6-10 and they're gone, etc. The vertical would keep all the finishers on the screen the whole time AND update the results in real-time the second the cars cross the finish line.<BR/><BR/>The finish was good but there were two major flaws:<BR/><BR/>- Interviewing Scott Wimmer in the pit studio AND putting his face on the entire screen UNDER GREEN. Mercifully a caution came out and stopped this nonesense or Lord knows how long that full-screen interview would have lasted. The "studio guests" should be limited to the pre-race show. If they absolutely positively must be used under green, WE DON'T NEED THEIR FACE ON THE ENTIRE SCREEN TO HEAR THEM.<BR/><BR/>- With under 20 laps to go we do not need full-screen video packages of any sort, especially the same Kyle Busch bad-luck hype video we've seen over and over and over again.<BR/><BR/>Also, ESPN has the perfect scoring crawl technology but I would like them to adopt Fox's green flag pit stop method of always keeping the leader on the race track in another box on the screen. Had they done that today we would have seen the incident where McMurray was coming into the pits and alertly darted back on the track because of the caution.<BR/><BR/>Maybe Fox and ESPN can get together and merge ESPN's scoring crawl and Fox's green flag pit stop "leader box" so we can see both features on both networks.stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-55074622127694340822008-04-05T18:44:00.000-04:002008-04-05T18:44:00.000-04:00LESS SOUND EFFECTS and graphics, the better. I am...LESS SOUND EFFECTS and graphics, the better. I am still grateful NN dropped that crazy 'space ship landing/warbly noise' when they displayed graphics next to interviewees.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of graphics, Now we have SPEED promoting DIGGER T shirts, though sadly...sign. I wondered if that wasn't the rolled up t shirt on the track!!??<BR/><BR/>Less is more ESPN and also, YES, YES thank you for the FINISH LINE CAMERA!!<BR/><BR/>If ONLY FOX CARED!!!!!!!!!!!!Sophiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789033556426951026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-17700424466434448512008-04-05T18:40:00.000-04:002008-04-05T18:40:00.000-04:00spring,I think you are right. It sounds like they ...spring,<BR/><BR/>I think you are right. It sounds like they bagged that effect...another good decision.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38481107183158811252008-04-05T18:31:00.000-04:002008-04-05T18:31:00.000-04:00The ESPN Deportes guys are pretty good. I can onl...The ESPN Deportes guys are pretty good. I can only pick up a word here and there, but the race sounds exciting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-73787635177158461622008-04-05T17:54:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:54:00.000-04:00Overall a good broadcast. They get an "A" from me....Overall a good broadcast. They get an "A" from me. It reminded me that ESPN does know how to do it. They did it on occasion last year. We couldn't say enough good about the "Busch" race(s). <BR/>Then Sunday would come and I would wonder if an untrained or unskilled set of production people took over. The two days broadcast were night and day.<BR/>Excellent race finish. <BR/>Post race interviews went well also. I don't recall any question asked that could have been answered "Well Duh". Much-improved phrasing of the questions.<BR/>Enjoyable afternoon.Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10695831353283754366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-30629711612741196572008-04-05T17:51:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:51:00.000-04:00Is it me or are they not using sound effects for t...Is it me or are they not using sound effects for the lower thirds used during interviews much like NN stopped using that "wobbling" sound effect for when the sidebar graphic animates in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-3437175140140956722008-04-05T17:41:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:41:00.000-04:00Thanks for the Logano update, now it "kind of" mak...Thanks for the Logano update, now it "kind of" makes sense.<BR/><BR/>Nice finish line coverage by ESPN, the upper logos revealing the finishers as they crossed the line was nice.<BR/><BR/>Doesn't ESPN's triple split coverage on pit stops blow Fox away with that bad 4-box? I thought they did a killer job this race on pit road.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9601101529031358432008-04-05T17:33:00.001-04:002008-04-05T17:33:00.001-04:00anon 5:24 -- you're right, there's no easy solutio...anon 5:24 -- you're right, there's no easy solution. tracks and fans will both be . . . irritated, i suppose. but if n'wide is intended to be a "feeder series", then it has to be run as such. <BR/>and to bring this full circle to a media discussion -- if tv would cover the n'wide teams instead of the cup teams on saturdays, fans might just come to like the n'wide drivers and appreciate that level of racing as well.<BR/>as you note: doesn't seem as if the cup guys are making THAT much of a difference in attendance on saturdays, now does it? and as a race fan, you can bet i'd go see n'wide guys on saturday & then return to see cup guys on sunday -- IF i could afford to do so, both in terms of $$$ and time.<BR/><BR/>in the meantime, it seems that the real feeder series are the levels below n'wide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-75952067082651370832008-04-05T17:33:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:33:00.000-04:00The race is now being shown tape delayed on ESPN D...The race is now being shown tape delayed on ESPN Deportes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-41978615409346620752008-04-05T17:31:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:31:00.000-04:00Great way to show the finish.Another top notch job...Great way to show the finish.Another top notch job with the time interval. As bad as Espn was last year,they are now aces.Only hope QVC eh.....Fox can take notes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-46303547758517867592008-04-05T17:29:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:29:00.000-04:00JD, the Logano promos were mentioned by me and som...JD, the Logano promos were mentioned by me and someone else in the Martinsville race on FOX thread last week. They had been airing on ESPN since the season began, but last week was the first time I saw them also on SPEED or FOX. <BR/><BR/>He is not racing ARCA. He is waiting to race until his Nationwide debut in two months because he doesn't have any good equipment to race in those other series.<BR/><BR/>Here are the comments (mine first, another anon second):<BR/>__________________________<BR/>Anonymous said... <BR/>Did anybody else notice the Joey Logano commericial has been on SPEED and on FOX, incuding today? I had always thought it was an ESPN commericial for the Nationwide Series, but it's a NASCAR created commercial for the Nationwide series, saying you might have missed Logano's triumphs before but you can be there to see his triumphs when he goes to the NW series.<BR/><BR/>That's pretty big for NASCAR to make an ad about a driver who's never driven a lap in the three big series. Even Chrissy Wallace didn't ge that! <BR/><BR/>Interesting motto on the ad "Fan Up". Wonder if that is a Nationwide motto or a NASCAR one.<BR/><BR/>March 30, 2008 1:57 PM <BR/>_______________________________<BR/>Anonymous said... <BR/>I noticed Logano's commercial. I think it's weird. Sets a bad precedent. Drivers are not draft picks. Too much pressure from NASCAR to put on that kid, unless he really is Tiger Woods in a racecar (or the new Jeff Gordon) like some people say he is.<BR/><BR/>If he is, sponsors must not be too impressed; IIRC JGR is having trouble finding a fulltime sponsor for him.<BR/><BR/>Looking around a second ago, there's a Motorsports Authentics merchandise site that has a clock counting down to Logano's first race. 62 days, 2 hours and 20 minutes from now.<BR/><BR/>You can buy Digger shirts at that site too LOL.<BR/><BR/>March 30, 2008 2:25 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47460012927380741462008-04-05T17:27:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:27:00.000-04:00jd: though logano was going to run n'wide once he ...jd: though logano was going to run n'wide once he turns 18 . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-4118919898614859362008-04-05T17:26:00.001-04:002008-04-05T17:26:00.001-04:00I haven't seen the Logano ads, JD, but than again ...I haven't seen the Logano ads, JD, but than again I haven't been watching the commercials today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74155859415072054372008-04-05T17:26:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:26:00.000-04:00I've seen the Logano promo, but I dont recall it a...I've seen the Logano promo, but I dont recall it as an ESPN one. I think it was by NASAR. ESPN wasn't mentioned or displayed on the screen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-37479410159940701552008-04-05T17:24:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:24:00.000-04:00red said... anon 5:06 & stricklinfan82: so here's ...red said... <BR/><B>anon 5:06 & stricklinfan82: so here's my question about cup drivers competing in n'wide: what would happen if cup drivers were excluded from running n'wide unless they own the car they're driving? seems to me that ratings couldn't (necessarily) get worse & you might just get folks making an effort to watch the race b/c "their cup driver" won't be visible until sunday. </B><BR/>That sounds like a good idea to me. Or limiting Cup drivers to 10 races per season, which I think one of the Cup drivers suggested.<BR/><BR/>The problem is even if it didn't hurt the TV ratings the tracks wouldn't go for it b/c they feel the only reason they get people in the stands for Busch races and can pay the purses is b/c of the Cup drivers. And they have a point: the people who benefit from the Cup drivers being in the races are the fans attending the race. They either get to see them twice or can see them at a reasonable price if they can't get or afford Cup tickets.<BR/><BR/>But the ratings are going down (just like they did in 2007 -it's been a steady progression down from there) so they can't say the Cup drivers are packing in the viewers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74467081364312584662008-04-05T17:22:00.001-04:002008-04-05T17:22:00.001-04:00Hey gang,I am getting a lot of email about an ESPN...Hey gang,<BR/><BR/>I am getting a lot of email about an ESPN promo for the Nationwide Series that supposedly features Joey Logano?<BR/><BR/>Isn't he racing in the ARCA Series this season? Did any of you see this promo? I am going to go back and scan through the race once ESPN2 signs-off.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-85021229420986586972008-04-05T17:22:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:22:00.000-04:00That was a beautiful new finishing rundown graphic...That was a beautiful new finishing rundown graphic for when the cars cross the line. It's much better with five cars displayed instead of three, and the layout in general was nice as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-14318668176060137342008-04-05T17:19:00.001-04:002008-04-05T17:19:00.001-04:00ABSOLUTELY PERFECT way to show the ending. Should...ABSOLUTELY PERFECT way to show the ending. <BR/><BR/>Should have run the driver pictures for every car, but the lead lap cars was good enough, then run a full running order banner.<BR/><BR/>I wish they would do this for every race. <BR/><BR/>I missed most of the race so cant comment on how it went, but the end was great!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-64335629510782062262008-04-05T17:19:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:19:00.000-04:00nice job on showing the finish: top 15 cars, ticke...nice job on showing the finish: top 15 cars, ticker reflecting the finish -- sweet. and how nice to go talk to the winning crew chief right away.<BR/>good work, espn!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57381108901997340152008-04-05T17:18:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:18:00.000-04:00I hope Fox was watching how ESPN showed the finish...I hope Fox was watching how ESPN showed the finish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-42321650997939360562008-04-05T17:17:00.000-04:002008-04-05T17:17:00.000-04:00The scheduled off time of this telecast is 6PM Eas...The scheduled off time of this telecast is 6PM Eastern.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.com