tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post3808150942652747252..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: New Faces But Same Issues For ShowtimeDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56925886000929798262011-03-11T22:52:08.046-05:002011-03-11T22:52:08.046-05:00[i]NASCAR promotes itself as a family-friendly spo...[i]NASCAR promotes itself as a family-friendly sport.<br /><br />Pofanity on TV does not seem family-friendly to me.[/i]<br /><br />I somewhat disagree. Look at the track and you have the Budweiser car running side-by-side with the Crown Royal car. What family sport promoted alcohol and driving?<br /><br />And chances are if you watch these (or any) cars long enough, you'll see them flip the bird out the window (a common occurence). Not quite family entertainment, per se.<br /><br />Showtime isn't creating the profanity, they are simply showing what happened. If you have a problem with profanity then you should either have a beef with the driver who swears incessantly or else be mad at NASCAR for letting kids listen to this on headphones at trackside. Showtime is simply showing what happened.<br /><br />I for one am interested in hearing the radio chatter as it really happened. Frankly, the chatter I've heard on Showtime has had me seriously re-think how I feel about a few drivers. Personally, I would rather know how they really are and judge them accordingly, rather than only hear censored radio transmissions and be fooled into thinking they are someone they are not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-90712609118846241072011-03-11T20:10:24.278-05:002011-03-11T20:10:24.278-05:00newracefan - I'm with you. It bugs me that I ...newracefan - I'm with you. It bugs me that I pay for trackpass and they censor the radio traffic.<br /><br />I don't have kids and I'm sure that's why it was changed, but it's NOT broadcast TV and I want to hear exactly what my driver said, not some sanitized version.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11132546602695007492011-03-11T17:07:57.117-05:002011-03-11T17:07:57.117-05:00I'm sorry but I had to *giggle* at people upse...I'm sorry but I had to *giggle* at people upset over the profanity. When they temporarily stopped playing it people were upset & couldn't wait for them to bring it back.<br /><br />I don't have access to it so am not able to see it as my friend who I was able to see it via moved out to the boonies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-62748290017116943582011-03-11T16:51:15.821-05:002011-03-11T16:51:15.821-05:00I'm not "upset" about profanity, but...I'm not "upset" about profanity, but the context of its presentation can be very damaging, and I'd like to know who controls the context; NASCAR, Showtime or the teams? It's one thing to hear the Biffle meltdown from the stands, but it's much different to hear it as a packaged television story.<br /><br />I can't see where 3M, Ford or Jack Roush is very happy to have the dirty laundry so artfully packaged and aired, albeit to a small number of people.<br /><br />The first time a sponsor says goodbye because of what got on TV, or when a driver gets fired because his comments publicly destroy the team, the fans or the sponsor, where does NASCAR and Showtime go from there?<br /><br />It was a very good show. I like the NFL Films treatment of the races. I just worry about the fallout when all it seems is Showtime is saying, "oooh, an F-bomb. Let's keep that tape!"bowlalpohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361020298223178407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-41519605144752205372011-03-11T13:25:53.030-05:002011-03-11T13:25:53.030-05:00Don't have Showtime so can't watch but it&...Don't have Showtime so can't watch but it's interesting the people are complaining about the language on the scanner. One of my biggest pet peeves is that I pay for Pit Command and now it is censored. Not Nascar.com's job to determine if it appropriate it's mine. It's Showtime have they looked at the other offerings on this channel. As we all know people who like things are less likely to comment VS people who don't like something and then they go a ruin it for the rest of us. Can't wait until I get to Dover and I can hear the real Chad and JJ, f-bombs and allNewracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16324764517098771035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74511818586364221132011-03-11T12:45:26.085-05:002011-03-11T12:45:26.085-05:00Never understand the hate this and all nascar prog...Never understand the hate this and all nascar programming gets.....people here and the old speedcouch forum just like to complain imo......they threaten to walk away and say people like DW are driving fans away but when attendence and ratings on the upswing they have find another reason to complain.....sad reallyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19305764746162619122011-03-11T12:18:35.407-05:002011-03-11T12:18:35.407-05:00Anon at 11:01pm
I have a problem with all of what...Anon at 11:01pm<br /><br />I have a problem with all of what you are sayng when NASCAR is promoting itself as a family-friendly sport. All the things you said is not family-friendly as NASCAR tries to promote itself to be. And NASCAR is caught into the fire with fan reaction. Not just with the way NASCAR does business but with the TV networks not providing quality broadcasts. NASCAR is on a path of destruction and the brass does not seem to care.saltsburgtrojanfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-69021762249082835852011-03-11T11:59:58.025-05:002011-03-11T11:59:58.025-05:00the profanity doesn't bother me. When I go to...the profanity doesn't bother me. When I go to the races, I hear my driver's scanner and get the raw inforamtion which is fine with me - I'm a grown up. I don't get Showtime either - so I don't see the show, but I get all I can stand of Mikey and Brad on other Fox/Speed/ESPN shows, so missing another half hour of race recaps doesn't concern me.<br /><br />I figure I already pay for cable tv and can get the same info in a better format on Race Hub (since I like Steve) and NASCAR Now on Monday's with Allen. I don't need this show.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-64412791591644286232011-03-11T11:23:39.613-05:002011-03-11T11:23:39.613-05:00Ironic that I have Showtime and I don't watch ...Ironic that I have Showtime and I don't watch the show. I don't like the stuffiness of it. Are they still wearing suits? <br /><br />I wrote here last year that I was mad that they bleeped out all the swearing. I couldn't understand this when it's a show on cable I pay for and on past "family time". We've known for years that driver talk is rated R/X. If it offends, don't watch.<br /><br />Last year when I did record Inside nascar, I too fast forwarded to the car audio part. There's a 12 year old in all of us. :)Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-25825336568365888702011-03-11T11:01:51.825-05:002011-03-11T11:01:51.825-05:00I really like this show and don't have a probl...I really like this show and don't have a problem with the unedited scanner chatter. I don't agree that they "promote" the profanity. The meltdown by Biffle this week was quite interesting. We listened to trackpass and missed that. The show has a warning at the beginning about the language, so people who are offended by it have a choice NOT to tune in. I enjoy all the original programming on Showtime and find it well worth the few extra $$$ it costs me on DirecTV. I might not have subscribed just for Inside NASCAR, but it's a bonus with the movies and other original programming for which I already subscribed. As usual, not sure why there is so much hate for Showtime and this show on this site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-87205730787923206072011-03-11T08:52:46.426-05:002011-03-11T08:52:46.426-05:00Many NASCAR teams used to broadcast a "messag...Many NASCAR teams used to broadcast a "message" that you were monitoring a private channel licensed by the FCC if you were listening on a scanner.<br /><br />Maybe they should do so again for those easily offended.<br /><br />You are naive if you think team radio traffic is ever going to be rated PG. <br /><br />I'm sure you have seen the "warning" posted before Showtime airs Inside NASCAR.<br /><br />As someone who spent 15 years in the team radio business, I really hate this is a major concern.BGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-89544524174847284682011-03-11T08:37:26.230-05:002011-03-11T08:37:26.230-05:00Editor, you said:
"Perhaps as the Showtime u...Editor, you said:<br /><br />"Perhaps as the Showtime universe of subscribers continues to be affected by Netflix, offering this one series online will become a smart business and public relations decision."<br /><br />And how, exactly, would giving their NASCAR show away for free to NASCAR fans, be anything but a drain on their existing subscriber base? There would be no reason for any NASCAR fan who just wants to see this show to subscribe to Showtime.<br /><br />And can we please get OVER the fact that two years ago, someone from NMG misspoke about the distribution of this program? Its like hearing a kid complain to his mom, "But you SAID you were going to! WAAH!"<br /><br />I actually like the more compact version of the show better. The highlight package with scanner audio produced by NMG is actually the best part, to me. The tighter time frame seems to force MW and the others to keep their comments relevant and succinct. No more going off on some unrelated tangent and hijacking the conversation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-22750961187728918872011-03-11T08:08:13.321-05:002011-03-11T08:08:13.321-05:00hey anon @ 10:57pm
NASCAR promotes itself as a fa...hey anon @ 10:57pm<br /><br />NASCAR promotes itself as a family-friendly sport.<br /><br />Pofanity on TV does not seem family-friendly to me.<br /><br />The networks could have at least beeped it out or not aired it.<br /><br />NASCAR is so money hungry they lost where they have gotten them to the forefront.saltsburgtrojanfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74433899675274639702011-03-11T08:03:58.510-05:002011-03-11T08:03:58.510-05:00Well It appears with every passing day that NASCAR...Well It appears with every passing day that NASCARS decision to air Inside NASCAR on Showtime was a horrific idea. Not everybody has Showtime. And with the economy the way it is Showtimes subscriptions will decrease and the viewership of the show will decrease.<br /><br />NASCAR is without a doubt im my mind the stupidest most incompetent people to run a sport. BZF once again sold out fans for money. And the profanity and horrific promos on some telecasts mind boggles me. <br /><br />Well once agin the rich get rich, and the poor get poor.<br /><br />*puh*saltsburgtrojanfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57675428012542631202011-03-10T23:00:49.778-05:002011-03-10T23:00:49.778-05:00As excited as I was to have Kyle Petty added to th...As excited as I was to have Kyle Petty added to the panel -- that excitement has been doused by the new format of the show. <br /><br />The race-recap highlights are so extensive (lots of slow-motion, deep-voiced announcer like NFL films) that the discussion is limited to very very short segments with this new half-hour format. I think in the first three episodes, Kyle Petty has only been allowed to speak 10, maybe 12 sentences. Literally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-2188063959774849272011-03-10T22:57:56.192-05:002011-03-10T22:57:56.192-05:00I don't understand why people watching a pay-c...I don't understand why people watching a pay-cable service would be upset about profanity from the drivers. My goodness, there were 150,000-plus fans in attendance, and it really doesn't matter which driver they listened to on their headsets that day - they were ALL swearing. Even goody two shoes drivers like Jimmie Johnson or Matt Kenseth regularly swear over the radio. As in: all the time! <br /><br />I would venture that it would be impossible to listen to any radio frequency during a race without hearing some profanity. So what is the big deal?<br /><br />And let me make another case in favor of profanity: it really shed light on both the intensity of the race as well as the drivers themselves. It is one thing to hear Kevin Harvick yell at his team on ESPN about changing tires, but it's another thing entirely to hear him scream repeated F-words into the microphone at his team. <br /><br />If you're upset, you should be upset at Harvick, not the network that broadcasts it. I for one would rather have an accurate picture of a driver's behavior, instead of having a network sugar-coat and censor them so that I have a false idea of how that driver acts. <br /><br />And one final point: this isn't exclusive to NASCAR. I've sat courtside at an NBA game and heard the X-rated trash talk from players. I've sat in the first few rows at baseball games and heard players swear, too. It's part of the intensity of the sport. If you don't like it, you have plenty of other options to get your NASCAR coverage on venues where they don't feature this. But to attack Showtime as if they are doing something wrong by simply showing what happened Sunday at the race is unfair from where I sit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29211408484663820332011-03-10T22:07:08.740-05:002011-03-10T22:07:08.740-05:00Showtime has one revenue stream: paid subscribers....Showtime has one revenue stream: paid subscribers. There is no logical reason why they should stream it for free. Unless it would be subsidized by NASCAR or Turner or whatever. The other alternative is like through iTunes for a buck or two per episode.<br /><br />I think the overall production of the show isn't bad, but the analysts are awful. I'm not a big fan of Brad Daugherty, but he actually is the best they've got of the bunch. That shouldn't be the case.uncredentialedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11436452929578443121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-78893153400766576312011-03-10T21:58:33.687-05:002011-03-10T21:58:33.687-05:00I am a huge nascar fan in Bama no less (ROLL TIDE!...I am a huge nascar fan in Bama no less (ROLL TIDE!) And I have Showtime but will dvr the show and watch just the scanner part,I just can't watch with Waltrip on. Its like fingernails on a blackboard for me.michealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06698520955076358203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11155807444475790532011-02-09T20:03:26.709-05:002011-02-09T20:03:26.709-05:00I might pay to see Michael and Brad play half-cour...I might pay to see Michael and Brad play half-court one-on-one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29441229237147782422011-02-09T19:34:07.034-05:002011-02-09T19:34:07.034-05:00we people know about Brad and how long he's be...we people know about Brad and how long he's been involved in NASCAR. We just don't think as an owner/fan he has shown he has anything to contribute other than being a really good cheerleader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-71738595440297420832011-02-09T19:01:01.315-05:002011-02-09T19:01:01.315-05:00Like most others, a single half-hour program isn&#...Like most others, a single half-hour program isn't enough reason for me to subscribe to Showtime.<br /><br />I enjoy Petty, and Waltrip in this format (not in the CWTS booth). I can tolerate Daugherty, but actively dislike Myers' NASCAR persona; why can't he drop the goober routine and behave like he does on the NFL sidelines?<br /><br />Sorry, not enough meat for the money, especially when there are a couple of decent alternatives on networks I already receive (Speed and ESPN).Palmettonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-951483413107010382011-02-09T18:33:57.266-05:002011-02-09T18:33:57.266-05:00I'm really suprised to hear these negative com...I'm really suprised to hear these negative comments about Big Brad. You people obviously have no idea of his extensive NASCAR knowledge and how many years he has been involved with the sport in one capacity or the other. He's certainly better to listen to than Mikey and Chris.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43149119340552724392011-02-09T16:59:08.484-05:002011-02-09T16:59:08.484-05:00I have Showtime and like the show, but one hour is...I have Showtime and like the show, but one hour is too long. It's at least 30 minutes of scanner talk with slo-mo race action. I'd like to see more panel and more discussion and fewer clips packages. Adding Petty to the show is a HUGE positive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76890592996467309892011-02-09T16:41:19.315-05:002011-02-09T16:41:19.315-05:00Gotta be honest, I fastforwarded through most of i...Gotta be honest, I fastforwarded through most of it. Can't stand Brad Daugherty or Chris Myers. The in car audio is the only part I watched.kswheelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01165162825432443354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-33115544685388640072011-02-09T16:03:25.596-05:002011-02-09T16:03:25.596-05:00With the reuniting of the still sensible 3/4 of th...With the reuniting of the still sensible 3/4 of the old IWC gang over on ESPN, do more than just a handful of Kyle Petty and Michael Waltrip fans really care about this Showtime show anymore especially at a reduced length? If the only other appeal of this show is to be able to hear drivers cuss, I'll be glad to take any Planeteer along with me for free on my daily commute through suburban Los Angeles traffic. :-DKoHoSohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457687879505057220noreply@blogger.com