tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post4038684131969373373..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Please Post Your ARCA TV Comments HereDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-70973751471874748542008-05-05T22:48:00.000-04:002008-05-05T22:48:00.000-04:00Anon 9:06PM,How about that excellent live...oops.....Anon 9:06PM,<BR/><BR/>How about that excellent live...oops..video right after "gentlemen start your engines." My fav....<BR/><BR/>JD<BR/><BR/>PS - You saw D.O. just picked up the Lifetime Achievement trophy?Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-51451645092738512542008-05-05T21:06:00.000-04:002008-05-05T21:06:00.000-04:00FYI to "inside guy"I was in the production truck f...FYI to "inside guy"<BR/>I was in the production truck for the Indy 500 when the director missed the winner crossing the finish line.<BR/><BR/>The mistake was LIVE for all to see, and believe me, the director heard about it from Tony George for a looong time. In 1992, there was no dvr technology in the truck for time shifting. So you are dead wrong about the facts. It was fixed via edit for reply and history.<BR/>Inside inside guyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-77164233464591599032008-05-05T18:17:00.000-04:002008-05-05T18:17:00.000-04:00@JD--Thank you for having this blog and allowing u...@JD--Thank you for having this blog and allowing us to chat about various things *and* allowing the media to chime in and help us to understand from their POV :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-85629447134049075312008-05-05T14:46:00.000-04:002008-05-05T14:46:00.000-04:00Yes, I know, I am repeating. Once again Mr. Allen...Yes, I know, I am repeating. Once again Mr. Allen thanks for stopping by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-15765225107808647942008-05-05T12:24:00.000-04:002008-05-05T12:24:00.000-04:00Thank you, Mr. Allen.Thank you, Mr. Allen.Lisa Hoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15816899271672467136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-62710648113337723392008-05-05T11:36:00.000-04:002008-05-05T11:36:00.000-04:00JD, Thank Rick for us I for one appreciate his wil...JD, Thank Rick for us I for one appreciate his willingness to give us an explanation of what happened and to Speed for at least trying to give us the final laps. I hope they learn from their mistakes and the race coverage will be better for it. At least they are showing ARCA races on TV and I for one watched because of everything I heard about The Rock, since it was off the schedule by the time I started watching.Newracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16324764517098771035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-50898245118224963772008-05-05T11:11:00.000-04:002008-05-05T11:11:00.000-04:00thank you JD for letting the fans know that us on ...thank you JD for letting the fans know that us on the inside don't try to fake anything. it was in the fans best interest I bet that SPEED made that decision. <BR/>as for your friend that is with NATAS. I have a few thoughts on the emmy's. these are paid for awards that the networks hold in high regard. the networks pay to put them together, they pay to send them in and if they win, they pay to get the trophy's. Let's not get into who judges these awards. the networks then flood the judging to hopefully have it come out in their favor. sports emmy's...a total joke! get real judges and don't just judge a broadcast on 20 minutes. one more thing...if you don't think the networks edit their submissions...your kidding yourself!!!! <BR/><BR/>indy 500 1992 al unser jr. edges scott goodyear..one of the best finishes in indy history....the director missed the finish of the race!!!! luckily they had time to go back and edit it in so YOU the fans wouldn't miss it! for years that race was always taped delayed!!!! how about the olympics...am I opening a can of worms here!!! <BR/><BR/>like JD said...SPEED made a huge blunder and they are embarrassed by it. they tried to do the right thing in a bad situation. <BR/> <BR/><BR/>inside guyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-75745131986418632102008-05-05T10:49:00.000-04:002008-05-05T10:49:00.000-04:00Anon 10:34AM,I don't know if you are new to auto r...Anon 10:34AM,<BR/><BR/>I don't know if you are new to auto racing, but what SPEED did was try to preserve all the content of the final segment for the viewers.<BR/><BR/>Apparently, if not for a machine problem, TV viewers would have been able to see the entire final segment from when the network left for commercial.<BR/><BR/>Over the last couple of seasons, several networks have used the available TiVo and DVR technology to time-shift content for the fan.<BR/><BR/>During qualifying, all of the cars are seen using this approach and none are missed while the network is in commercial. Often times, the network program finishes almost thirty minutes after the actual qualifying.<BR/><BR/>This is not NFL football or NBA basketball where a coordinated system of clock management insures that all commercials air on a pre-determined format. <BR/><BR/>This is a TV network trying to use the most up-to-date technology to insure that viewers see as much of the action on the track as possible.<BR/><BR/>I understand SPEED had a problem, and trust me, they are very embarrassed about it.<BR/><BR/>If I took the time to tell you how much sports content even back in the 1980's was pre-produced and then passed off as live, you would probably faint. Can you say Indy 500?<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-42124471503252236502008-05-05T10:34:00.000-04:002008-05-05T10:34:00.000-04:00JDYou're response to my 9:07 is exactly the point....JD<BR/>You're response to my 9:07 is exactly the point.<BR/>If Speed producers are doing the "edge of deception" recorded content fraud, then chances are FOX has been doing it too. If true, then thier Emmy should be disallowedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-67323425366195195542008-05-05T10:21:00.000-04:002008-05-05T10:21:00.000-04:00Anon 9:07AM,I think it might be somewhat safe to a...Anon 9:07AM,<BR/><BR/>I think it might be somewhat safe to assume that the ARCA race from Rockingham will not be an issue in the 2009 Sports Emmy Awards.<BR/><BR/>By the way, NASCAR on Fox did win for "Outstanding Live Sports Series." This might give the ARCA crew something to shoot for in the future.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-7322319036779166692008-05-05T09:07:00.000-04:002008-05-05T09:07:00.000-04:00Mr. AllenThe truth is that your producer did a ter...Mr. Allen<BR/>The truth is that your producer did a terrible job of pacing the placement of commercials during the preceeding 3 plus hours of air time. It matters not whether he or she "works hard". So do I, and when I invest 4 hours of my day to watch SPEED and suffer through interminable commercials breaks, I expect MY valuable time to be rewarded. Assuming I will see the conclusion of a race is hardly an extraordinary expectation. Which brings another ethical issue to the fore. If SPEED is claiming that its telecasts are LIVE, then show them LIVE! Recording and playing back any event content and representing that it is live is ethical fraud perpetrated under the false pretense that the network "got it right". If footage is NOT LIVE, then you have AN OBLIGATION TO SAY SO! That pertains to whether its delayed by 2 minutes or 2 hours. <BR/>It is also grounds for the dismissal of ANY SUBMISSION TO THE SPORTS EMMY AWARDS BY SPEED in the category of "live". <BR/>As a member of NATAS, I plan to bring this issue to their attention at once.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-26424500964386071482008-05-05T08:59:00.000-04:002008-05-05T08:59:00.000-04:00Lou, That was out of line. All Rick did was explai...Lou, <BR/><BR/>That was out of line. All Rick did was explain what happened. That is why I put up this post in the hope that someone from SPEED would tell us.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, we would be in the dark as to why the problem happened. No one here excused it, they just wanted to know what happened.<BR/><BR/>I created this forum to faciliate this kind of communication between those doing the motorsports TV for us and the fans. <BR/><BR/>If you can find this interaction happening anywhere else on the Internet, I invite you to go there.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-64734198894283180652008-05-05T08:54:00.000-04:002008-05-05T08:54:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27534819985868335272008-05-05T07:59:00.001-04:002008-05-05T07:59:00.001-04:00Thanks Rick. Really appreciate your time. And don...Thanks Rick. Really appreciate your time. And don't worry about a couple of people here who call for people's heads and jobs. There are many here and many who don't post here that manage to put things in perspective and don't have their lives revolve around NASCAR/ARCA broadcasts 24/7.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16373091827602282290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-42955994245818229312008-05-05T07:59:00.000-04:002008-05-05T07:59:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-12540072247835644782008-05-05T07:51:00.000-04:002008-05-05T07:51:00.000-04:00I'm sorry, but somehow I knew people here would cl...I'm sorry, but somehow I knew people here would claim that SPEED <I>always</I> had great productions. I just don't understand those claims! They always have too many commercials and miss restarts in the truck series regularly. Michael Walrips completely ruins the truck broadcasts with his hyper talking all the time!<BR/><BR/>Yesterday's SNAFU was just inexcusable, and I speculated the time-shifting thing was the culprit. But I do appreciate Rick Allen giving the viewers an explanation. <BR/><BR/>We've been listening to MRN most of the season for Cup races and always try to sinc up the audio between that and Fox by pausing our Tivo. It's been quite clear that Fox time-shifts a lot because sometimes TV will be way ahead of internet MRN and then other times it will be way behind. I'm okay with that to a certain point and honestly wish they could shift more things so we don't miss so many restarts, passes for the lead or accidents, but what SPEED did yesterday was just sad and then to have no explanation before they went off the air is just disrespectful to the fans. It's like they thought we wouldn't notice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-67472367674698834372008-05-05T00:54:00.000-04:002008-05-05T00:54:00.000-04:00It's always fun and you never know who will show-u...It's always fun and you never know who will show-up. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for all the comments and thanks to Rick and the gang for the explanation.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-64385307958054233732008-05-05T00:13:00.000-04:002008-05-05T00:13:00.000-04:00mr allen, thank you for caring enough to answer th...mr allen, thank you for caring enough to answer the concerns and for doing so honestly and without doubletalk. i also appreciate you being frank in taking us to task about "rush to judgement", as 'twere!<BR/>see, this is why i enjoy this site! we received an intelligent, coherent explanation - AND an apology - from someone who was involved in the moment we've been discussing. i simply can't find that level of discourse anywhere else b/c most other sites are focused on the negatives and unwilling to learn how to ask for information politely and respond accordingly. <BR/>sometimes, in the heat of the moment, we may forget that we are partners in this venture of producing and watching racing on television. sometimes, we may even forget that there are real men and women working hard on our behalf. and sometimes, the production folks may forget that our angry words appear b/c we care about the job they're doing and we are certain there are aspects that can be enhanced if we just talk about it.<BR/><BR/>but i, for one, am immensely grateful to all parties involved: my fellow posters, the media folks who read what we write, and most of all, jd for keeping all of us honest and on track! thanks yet again, jd, for everything!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-2161472344599061512008-05-04T23:26:00.000-04:002008-05-04T23:26:00.000-04:00As well as the mess up at the end, how about the a...As well as the mess up at the end, how about the audio. Usually when you watch a race on TV, you can hear the cars as they drive by. Not today, I saw numerous instances when cars would drive by and not one sound was heard other than the announcers.<BR/><BR/>These were from cameras down low at trackside, not from the cameras on the roof. Every race I've been to, when your standing along the fence as these cameras were, you hear plenty of ambient noise from the cars. Not today. Maybe Arca is now running mufflers on their cars. <BR/><BR/>C'mon Chet Burkes Productions, Lets hear some car noise, not just announcers. CRANK IT UP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-62112489045182567812008-05-04T22:49:00.000-04:002008-05-04T22:49:00.000-04:00Thanks Mr. Allen for stopping by to explain.I was ...Thanks Mr. Allen for stopping by to explain.<BR/><BR/>I was not calling for anybody's job (But admit I thru a hissy fit) and I know mistakes happen.<BR/><BR/>What flummoxed me is if SPEED knew there was a problem (and isn't SOMEBODY watching a monitor for tv land air waves?) why couldn't they make up the missing 30 seconds and show us on SPEED REPORT what was missed in the ARCA race?<BR/><BR/>I mean it's on hours after the race, race is on SPEED, SR is on SPEED...that probably irked me.<BR/><BR/>But I will get over it. Like others I CERTAINLY hope it doesn't happen again, and that COMMUNICATION is better so you guys in the booth can apologize to the fans if there is a huge glitch. You guys do a great job in the Truck series and the rare times we see ARCA.<BR/><BR/>It was frustrating but also had to be disappointing for the owner of the Rock who was hoping for a larger turn out.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for stopping by to explain. We love hearing from the horses mouth.<BR/><BR/>Thanks JD for a site that makes that possible for rabid fans.<BR/><BR/>We complain because we care!!!<BR/><BR/>xoxo<BR/><BR/>:-)Sophiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789033556426951026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80438291709262489982008-05-04T22:43:00.000-04:002008-05-04T22:43:00.000-04:00Mr. Allen,Thanks for clearing that up. I'm glad t...Mr. Allen,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for clearing that up. I'm glad to hear it was a technical glitch and not human error so I sincerely apologize for jumping the gun and calling for the job of the individual(s) involved.<BR/><BR/>Clearly in the heat of the moment I was upset for investing 3 1/2 hours of time into watching a race, only to miss the final few laps (including the last lead change). The fact that you didn't panic and made such a seemless and smooth transition from the taped restart to the live call gave me the impression this was planned all along, so if anything that is a true testament to your professionalism in making a chaotic behind-the-scenes situation seem like status quo on the air.<BR/><BR/>Thank you very much and keep up the great work!stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-3346070132866382732008-05-04T22:42:00.000-04:002008-05-04T22:42:00.000-04:00Hi Mr. Allen!Thanks for stopping by! The SPEED pro...Hi Mr. Allen!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by! <BR/><BR/>The SPEED production is usually OUTSTANDING and there are very few complaints. In fact, many of us would have you, Phil and the SPEED production crew cover ALL the races if we had our choice. <BR/><BR/>It was weird to see the unexpected change in scenes at the end and no on air explanation. While I do understand that at the time y'all may not have known/realized the glitch. Thank you for stopping by and giving us an explanation. <BR/><BR/>We do have some "rough" posters, but most of us don't ask for heads on a plate when things go wrong :).<BR/><BR/>Thank you again for the wonderful job that you do! I hope you get a chance to drop by again (and Phil too!). <BR/><BR/>Take care!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48133342402944086952008-05-04T22:25:00.000-04:002008-05-04T22:25:00.000-04:00It actually raises an interesting proposition... w...It actually raises an interesting proposition... would a network consider tape-delaying a restart so that no restart would ever be missed again? I'm sure there would be opportunities during the broadcast to go back to <I>live</I> action, but it was an interesting move by Speed to implement something like that today. I'd be willing to think that the NASCAR network partners should be looking at something like this technique. Obviously it didn't work out this time, but had it worked out, Speed would have come out as the hero by not missing a crucial restart late in the race.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05555965613877228435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56446631321576515942008-05-04T21:49:00.000-04:002008-05-04T21:49:00.000-04:00This may just be a case of "live and learn" ..and ...This may just be a case of "live and learn" ..and dont do that again<BR/><BR/>srsly if TNT had FUBAR'd like this we would be ready for a Bill Weber bonfire but SPEED 9 times out of 10 doesnt mess up so id let them off the hook on this one since its safe to say this race will be re-aired SEVERAL times throughout the weekWickedJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786052306720946487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-3522442158582159582008-05-04T21:43:00.000-04:002008-05-04T21:43:00.000-04:00Good Evening Mr. Allen,Thank you for taking the ti...Good Evening Mr. Allen,<BR/>Thank you for taking the time to respond to the problems today. It only helps some of us understand the ongoings and problems that can happen on the spur of the moment. I understand that is no excuse, but I hope it helps avoid future problems when they are discussed in meetings.(You do have after action meetings don't you?) Mr. Daly, thank you alsoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com