tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post4521506291672784976..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: A TV Tale of Three NASCAR BanquetsDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-59956704864988434332007-12-14T12:38:00.000-05:002007-12-14T12:38:00.000-05:00Kelly Clarkson is with Startstruck Entertainment a...Kelly Clarkson is with Startstruck Entertainment and the CEO is Narvel Blackstock, who is Reba's husband. Narvel serves as Kelly's personal rep.elenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13307257449151940082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9467368530466971242007-12-14T12:30:00.000-05:002007-12-14T12:30:00.000-05:00I also doubt that the banquets should be televised...I also doubt that the banquets should be televised at all. Maybe there are some memorable moments in the speeches, but if the occasion is mostly to satisfy sponsors, why is there any reason for the fans to care?<BR/><BR/>In that same vein, it no longer matters where the banquet is held, though I personally prefer Las Vegas.<BR/><BR/>Also: So Kelly Clarkson's manager is Reba McEntire's husband? I thought it was Simon Fuller, of the Spice Girls and <I>American Idol</I> fame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35736872067871245022007-12-14T07:57:00.000-05:002007-12-14T07:57:00.000-05:00Earlier today, I received an email from ESPN indic...<B>Earlier today, I received an email from ESPN indicating that neither the Cup or Busch Banquets would re-air in edited form. They also indicated they will not be airing any NASCAR content over the winter. </B><BR/><BR/>That figures.<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't want to keep the fans happy over the winter.<BR/><BR/>Here we go again. ESPN really <B>doesn't</B> care about NASCAR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80237677200476694782007-12-14T00:24:00.000-05:002007-12-14T00:24:00.000-05:00I have been watching the cup awards banquet since ...I have been watching the cup awards banquet since they first went to New York,and each year the the individual drivers sound like they all read from the same script.Maybe if we let the drivers be themselves during this time if would show more of the drivers true personally.I doubt we will never hear a off the wall remark made by Mr. Barney hall hosting in the eighties when asked if he was nervous, he replied, nervous as a fag at a hot dog roast!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9103931559598506572007-12-13T21:08:00.000-05:002007-12-13T21:08:00.000-05:00Thank you for some very interesting and diverse op...Thank you for some very interesting and diverse opinions and suggestions. It is amazing that one topic can generate such different views.<BR/><BR/>Earlier today, I received an email from ESPN indicating that neither the Cup or Busch Banquets would re-air in edited form. They also indicated they will not be airing any NASCAR content over the winter. <BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76582983545033665182007-12-13T20:18:00.000-05:002007-12-13T20:18:00.000-05:00Although I have watch all the banquets this year a...Although I have watch all the banquets this year and would again, I am not sure they should even be televised. They are all for the guys involved and the sponsers and not so much for the fans. This is easily seen when watching the cup banquet. The truck and Busch banquets were edited with the fans in mind. Our thoughts on the entertainment (music or comedian) are irrelevant; what do those attending want. What I would like to see is an awards show that was geared with the fans in mind and make the banquets what the drivers, sponsers, etc want, if they have them at all. I wonder if the drivers would look so wooden if there were no TV cameras. Hey maybe Brian France would actually stay on the stage for more than 3 seconds. If an awards show won't work then get the sponsers out of the banquet, televise it and let the indivdual teams/race shops thank their sponsers on there own and in their own way. This will get all/most of the awards in the banquet like the championship crew chief (what that doing at the luncheon) and hopefully make it easier for the fans to watch. I live about 2-3hrs from NY but would never go there during Championship week, I would consider it if was south or in Vegas; I agree with JD in this era there is no need to be in New York.Newracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16324764517098771035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5527189562982230462007-12-13T17:44:00.000-05:002007-12-13T17:44:00.000-05:00Only one good comment here: No one needs this on T...Only one good comment here: No one needs this on TV. It is hokey and stuck in 1985. Even the term "banquet" makes people laugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34547346134961886772007-12-13T17:13:00.000-05:002007-12-13T17:13:00.000-05:00To recent posters who say," keep the fans out of t...To recent posters who say," keep the fans out of the banquet", and "the banquet is for the sponsors teams and drivers who have toiled through the season" :<BR/>Who in the world do you think they show up at the track for? <BR/>Who buys the sponsors product?<BR/>Who pays for the tickets to get into the track?<BR/>Who watches the telecasts,including the commercials?<BR/>Who buys the drivers' merchandise?<BR/>We watch all year long in support of these teams, and when the final bell rings, since I helped pay for it, then invite me in to the banquet.<BR/>After a race, the driver thanks all the sponsors anyway, so don't tell me that the banquet is for the sponsors. It's to honor the drivers championships. If you are afraid that Jeff Gordon will get booed at the ceremony, so what.<BR/>If you are afraid they will throw something,....I can't believe you even said that. They have security at these functions.Either invite the fans, or quit televising the damn thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56705035209164550972007-12-13T16:53:00.000-05:002007-12-13T16:53:00.000-05:00As others have said, the banquets are not for you ...As others have said, the banquets are not for you and me, they're for the drivers, teams, sponsors and others who have toiled through the season to make it to the top of their sport. <BR/><BR/>These folks live under the media microscope for nine months each year. They deserve at least the one night to relax with their close family and extended team members to bask in the light of what they've accomplished. <BR/><BR/>Having been to many banquets in other businesses, I expect to be fed, entertained and subjected to speeches. That's what banquets are in most cases. Why should one expect NASCAR's banquets to be different? <BR/><BR/>Banquets by definition are bad TV. As long as NASCAR broadcasts these banquets, they will probably be ploddingly slow and often boring for the viewer. If the teams like them as they are, leave them alone. <BR/><BR/>Now if NASCAR wants a rip-roaring season-ending broadcast, well that's something different and will probably never be called a "Banquet".Tripphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15961339747449141551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-44892832443710993362007-12-13T13:46:00.000-05:002007-12-13T13:46:00.000-05:00I think awards shows are boring so I stay away fro...I think awards shows are boring so I stay away from the nascar banquet broadcasts. I really don't think we need them on tv.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-69337401501170626722007-12-13T13:41:00.000-05:002007-12-13T13:41:00.000-05:00I attended the Busch Series Banquet and wish they ...I attended the Busch Series Banquet and wish they wouldn't have edited as much as they did. I was disappointed when they did show the shortened version and the comedian wasn't even shown. His name was John Pinette and he had everyone laughing the whole time. He was so much better than David Spade at the Cup banquet. Musical guest also was great! It was really a great time for everyone!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-45132865417453934702007-12-13T13:18:00.000-05:002007-12-13T13:18:00.000-05:00Anonymous said...If word gets around in Nashville ...Anonymous said...<BR/>If word gets around in Nashville that the NASCAR banquet audience is not a receptive one, they might have a harder time booking a big country act for the banquet. <BR/><BR/>December 13, 2007 10:57 AM <BR/><BR/>I only watched the Nextel Cup banquet. But the blank expressions and outright lack of enthusiasm for the musical guest floored me. I actually rewound to see the driver's/wives expressions: absolutely blank, even at the end of each song. Even if you don't like the music, politeness dictates you feign some enthusiasm. At least at the formal/corporate events I've been to.<BR/><BR/>Was it the formality of the occasion that made them seem so unappreciative? I don't know, but if the event is aimed at the drivers and sponsors, I have no idea what kind of musical guest would catch their attention in such a stiff atmosphere. <BR/><BR/>I also agree that drivers should not be allowed to use a teleprompter for their speeches. That would probably make for the single biggest improvement in the broadcast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-44189914669565766262007-12-13T12:55:00.000-05:002007-12-13T12:55:00.000-05:00A couple of observations:1. Many long-time fans on...A couple of observations:<BR/>1. Many long-time fans on this and other sites blame NASCAR for being all about money while ignoring the fans, including at the banquets. <BR/><BR/>Well, I ask what about the drivers? Does anyone think they want to go back to the good old days? Richard Petty is one of the drivers that bemoans the fact that they did not make that much money compared to the drivers of today, and he's right. Richard Petty won 27 out of 48 races and the championship in 1967. He made $129,375. In 2007, Kyle bearly made it in the top 35,and made almost $4,000,000. Mark Martin is semi-retired and still made close to 4 million, too. All the drivers are chasing bigger paydays, so it is not just the suits at NASCAR. Every driver is eager to use his fame as a driver to cash-in on commercials, just like Tiger, MJ, Payton, Jr., Jeff Gordon, etc. <BR/><BR/>2. I would HATE to see fans included in the banquet. I love NASCAR and the drivers. Many of the "good ole fans" do not. The banquets are about the drivers and their time in the limelight. NASCAR has some of the most hateful fans I've ever seen, I would hate to see Jimmie or Jeff getting boo'd while trying to accept their trophies. They put up with that for 36 races a year. Let them enjoy the applause of their family, friends, drivers, etc. One can only imagine what fans might throw at them. What a shame! Keep fans out of the banquet!elenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13307257449151940082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-77064155245581596352007-12-13T11:14:00.000-05:002007-12-13T11:14:00.000-05:00The Cup banquet doesn't need a comedy act or music...The Cup banquet doesn't need a comedy act or music. Just get a decent host to hand out the awards and do transitions to commercials. There has been a lot of talk lately about how robotic the drivers have become and that they can't/won't show personality. The canned speeches just play into that. Ditch the teleprompter and let them read off some 3x5 cards or speak off the cuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-51580096036821990742007-12-13T11:06:00.000-05:002007-12-13T11:06:00.000-05:00Adding on to my comment at 10:57, it seems NASCAR ...Adding on to my comment at 10:57, it seems NASCAR has a problem in general finding banquet entertainment. The singer at the Busch Banquet (the Five for Fighting guy) hasn't had a hit song in about five years. <BR/><BR/>The Truck series had the band Fuel as the music and they also haven't had a hit in years. So who is booking these acts and why can't they book a more prominent act, in any music genre? <BR/><BR/>That's the question. <BR/><BR/>Either the banquet is not seen as prestigious enough for a top act, or the compensation package for the appearance isn't good enough for a top act, unless they are the NASCAR ambassador for the year (i.e. past performers Clarkson, Jewel, Scott Stapp, or Lisa Marie Presley, who sang -terribly -at the Busch banquet a couple of years ago.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-78040114151182884982007-12-13T10:57:00.000-05:002007-12-13T10:57:00.000-05:00"There has been a lot of criticism of the music at..."There has been a lot of criticism of the music at the banquets. It seems like most fans want country-western music. That’s fine, but when drivers are interviewed not many give that as their first choice."<BR/><BR/>If there is music at a future banquet (I'm undecided whether there needs to be music at all), it does seem like country music is going to have to be the choice or else fans will criticize the singer. <BR/><BR/>I wonder if NASCAR will have any trouble booking a country act after the semi-rude reaction to Kelly Clarkson. People may not realize that Kelly's manager is Reba McEntire's husband (Reba and Kelly are touring together starting next month.) He might not have been happy about the reaction to his artist. If word gets around in Nashville that the NASCAR banquet audience is not a receptive one, they might have a harder time booking a big country act for the banquet. Someone in banquet production -if there is such a thing - might need to make some amends - quickly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9426868865071089692007-12-13T10:45:00.000-05:002007-12-13T10:45:00.000-05:00NASCAR lost me with the Cup banquets when they sta...NASCAR lost me with the Cup banquets when they started adding so-called "entertainment" to them a few years ago. No real fan tunes in to see a comedian or pop singer. They tune in to see the drivers and hear them. The rest is unecessary and appeals to no one. This is the first year I didn't even record the banquet to watch it later. I saw enough of no-talent Clarkson all year long and didn't need to see/hear her again. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I don't care when they hold the banquet as long as they go back to allowing the drivers to speak from the heart instead of these stupid teleprompter speeches we've heard the last 6-8 years. That isn't something I care to see. <BR/><BR/>I happened to catch a bit of the Busch banquet the other night. While I didn't think they needed Shannon there at all, Allen Bestwick did an awesome job and the drivers I saw were natural and sounded sincere. Edwards most of all. He's articulate, geniune and didn't need a teleprompter. He still managed to thank his sponsors, while adding some life to his acceptance speech. Something that has sorely been lacking from the Cup awards for way too many years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-51553372951476723922007-12-13T10:35:00.000-05:002007-12-13T10:35:00.000-05:00Follow up on my previous comment:The fans buy the ...Follow up on my previous comment:<BR/>The fans buy the sponsors product, so in effect the FANS FOOT THE BILL. Without the fans, the sponsors have nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-28366415976651449252007-12-13T10:33:00.000-05:002007-12-13T10:33:00.000-05:00They need to get out of NYC. The people there coul...They need to get out of NYC. The people there could care less, and basically have never cared for about 25 years. The boredom fest that is the Cup banquet, needs alot of tweaking. Put fans in the audience, and pare down the amount of sponsor employees to just the brass tacks. It's a wonder, when drivers can do interviews at the track in front of 160,000 fans, and talk into a t.v. with 20 million people watching,they have no fear, yet when you put them in front of the people that foot the bill, there is an adverse reaction to spontanaity. It's akin to having the Mob boss show up at your wedding, when you are about to say your vows...<BR/>The networks have a demanding task in front of them. But no matter how bad ESPN was in their coverage, when your bosses send you out to tape paint drying, you have nothing but an uphill climb.<BR/>The first poster says he would not like it in Charlotte, because "that's why people go away on their honeymoon."I've got a newsflash for you:The drivers love to be "home" at any given chance. Listen to them during the All-Star weekend, and they'll tell you that.<BR/>I agree with Bruton Smith: Put it somewhere where they are wanted, and include the fans. The American Music Awards include the fans, The Grand Ole Opry includes the fans, Hell, even the Oscars include the fans to a degree. Stop making it all about the sponsors, and start making it about the drivers and crews (and the fans that buy the product and support them), and you might have something worth watching.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9596125693336643822007-12-13T09:58:00.000-05:002007-12-13T09:58:00.000-05:00The banquets are not for the fans, they are an opp...The banquets are not for the fans, they are an opportunity for the teams to thank their sponsors. There is no way to change this, it's strictly business. Comparing the excitement level of the banquets versus music/TV/movie award shows doesn't work because we already know who is getting what.<BR/><BR/>For the few fans that feel the need to be included in champions week, some events in the Charlotte area would be appropriate. When the Hall of fame opens in a couple years, I'm sure that's what will happen.<BR/><BR/>For now, the banquets accomplish what they were intended to and there is no reason for NASCAR to change anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-42013252332300832672007-12-13T09:00:00.000-05:002007-12-13T09:00:00.000-05:00Las Vegas has great weather in the late fall, lots...<B>Las Vegas has great weather in the late fall, lots to do, lots of room, and a wide range of prices for hotels and restaurants. Some hotels have that NY feeling. <BR/></B>Sure, let's just continue aleinating the fan base that kept this sport going for so many years and do even more out west. <BR/><BR/>For decades, people outside the southeast did nothing but make fun of this sport and the "rednecks" that followed it. <BR/><BR/>Now they're being rewarded for those years of ignorance by being given races that diehard fans in the south--who were there all along--have lost. So it makes perfect sense to move the banquet out west, too.<BR/><BR/>Keep punishing the original fans. We're used to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-4752904518422713962007-12-13T08:43:00.000-05:002007-12-13T08:43:00.000-05:00As an east coast fan and a Washington, D.C. reside...As an east coast fan and a Washington, D.C. resident, I would be very upset if NASCAR moved the banquet out west.<BR/><BR/>Yes, Vegas deserves more of a NASCAR presence. Las Vegas is very deserving of a second race. California is not.<BR/><BR/>The Awards Ceremony needs to stay on the East Coast, where most of the mainstream fans are. Maybe not New York. Richmond and Charlotte would be great areas to host the ceremonies.<BR/><BR/>The lame, dried out comedians and the poor music quality are two killers. They should either get good comedians, someone with a name (Mencia, Ron White, Jeff Foxworthy, etc.) and good musicians or just leave them out.<BR/><BR/>Kelly Clarkson does not appeal to NASCAR fans. First of all, she's an average ordinary pop singer. Her time's over, she's done.<BR/><BR/>David Spade is a hasbeen. He's been reduced to making cameo appearences and headlining 2 minute scenes in Adam Sandler movies. These guys are not funny. Either be funny, or go away.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and ESPN sucks.Andy Marquishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670916053954152880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-32970478574418114592007-12-13T08:04:00.000-05:002007-12-13T08:04:00.000-05:00I've always thought that having the banquet in NYC...I've always thought that having the banquet in NYC was antithetical to what NASCAR is all about. <BR/><BR/>Why not Charlotte or Daytona? Why in the world does NASCAR abandon its fan base for the end-of-the-year celebration?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-13487359623218499752007-12-13T07:23:00.000-05:002007-12-13T07:23:00.000-05:00IMO, when thinking about the awards banquet we fan...IMO, when thinking about the awards banquet we fans need to remember that, while Nascar lets us peek through the window, ITS NOT ABOUT US. Like all awards banquets its about honoring those who have achieved, not about those who watched. <BR/><BR/>IMO, the Nascar banquets look like what they are -- private, internal events to honor the participants.<BR/><BR/>While Champions Week is and needs to be the media wrap-up for the season, the banquets are fine as they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-50351077395765326832007-12-13T05:52:00.000-05:002007-12-13T05:52:00.000-05:00The opening of the Hall of Fame in Charlotte would...The opening of the Hall of Fame in Charlotte would be the perfect time for Nascar to move all the championship banquets to all the racers back yard. For starters, it would eliminate the need for extra travel expenses for the teams, and allw most of them to actually stay in their own homes once the season is over, rather than spend another week on the road. While having fan participation in the actual banquets isn't practical, holding the banquet in Charlotte would at least encourage fans to spend some time in the area ,visiting the local shops. Appearances by drivers could involve the fans in ways that they are now excluded from. Having the Cup banquet as yet another sponsor love fest is redundant. Every fan already knows who sponsor the drivers...they hear it every week every time a driver, owner or crew cheif is interviewed. This function should be a celebration of the drivers, teams, and the fans who ultimately make all of it possible. Continuing to have the banquet in NYC makes it seem like Nascar is a poor relation, coming to try and grab some attention where no one cares. It's time that Nascar decided they were 'big' enough to not need New York City to make them feel 'legit'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com