tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post4615115976268570025..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Huge Day Of NASCAR On SPEEDDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-51712154760859734562008-02-22T20:25:00.000-05:002008-02-22T20:25:00.000-05:00"Come on NASCAR!!! If Robby Gordon has to cough $1..."Come on NASCAR!!! If Robby Gordon has to cough $100k for an innocent mistake, why not a track owner?"<BR/><BR/>NASCAR's parent company, ISC, owns California Speedway, um, Auto Club Speedway. They aren't going to fine themselves.<BR/><BR/>Agreed about Robby, I hope they win the appeal on that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19698770569353121812008-02-22T20:11:00.000-05:002008-02-22T20:11:00.000-05:00Anon 8:07PM,I have seen this at big tracks and sma...Anon 8:07PM,<BR/><BR/>I have seen this at big tracks and small, it is just the nature of the beast. The ironic thing is that California Speedway really needed a good solid weekend of racing to get back on the map after the disasters of 2007.<BR/><BR/>Despite what the Prez of the speedway is saying, things are not very rosy for the future out there right now. It is certainly a shame coming off a good Daytona 500.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-18394914485947947802008-02-22T20:07:00.000-05:002008-02-22T20:07:00.000-05:00JDWhere are the penalties for track operators who ...JD<BR/>Where are the penalties for track operators who can't control ground water from screwing the entire architecture of qualifying?<BR/>These go or go home-ers spend money they can't afford to travel across the country, yet because a millionare track owner doesn't build it correctly, these guys get punished?<BR/>Come on NASCAR!!! If Robby Gordon has to cough $100k for an innocent mistake, why not a track owner?<BR/><BR/>This is NOT a new problem to this venue, and its not as though it rains every week in SoCal!!!<BR/>Fine them, and pay it to the go or go home teams!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47902269593756749162008-02-22T19:35:00.000-05:002008-02-22T19:35:00.000-05:00I thought the Speed guys did a good job with the r...I thought the Speed guys did a good job with the rain fill coverage. Other than the on-air guys being clueless about these rainout rules that have been in place for no less than 3 years, they did as well as could have been expected.<BR/><BR/>Definitely a downer to lose 10 straight hours of live on-track action to the rain :(stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-82005365588391190262008-02-22T19:34:00.000-05:002008-02-22T19:34:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61764762260577790692008-02-22T19:26:00.000-05:002008-02-22T19:26:00.000-05:00Final comment on the qualifying rule confusion:The...Final comment on the qualifying rule confusion:<BR/><BR/>The ironic thing about the #10 team being confused about these qualifying rules is that these same exact rules allowed them to start that 2006 race at Bristol. They were a new team and had they used entirely 2005 points they would have missed the field. If they could flash back to how these not-so-new rules saved them in 2006 maybe they would remember that there is nothing "new" about this rain-out procedure in the first 5 races of a season.stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-45478014843071458342008-02-22T19:22:00.000-05:002008-02-22T19:22:00.000-05:00I just saw on another board that Trackside has bee...I just saw on another board that Trackside has been moved to 8:30 PM EST and will replay at 10PM the original time.<BR/><BR/>I thought the Speed Channel crew did a good job today. I didn't think they needed to stretch it to three hours without moving to a prerecorded show (what about that Road to Daytona show that was on Fox Sunday, SPEED should be able to air that?), but maybe they were hopeful or were told that racing activity would get going soon. <BR/><BR/>I personally thought they did a great job of finding people to interview. I watched for about 45 min and probably saw seven or eight interviews. It didn't seem like they wasted too much time with filler or had trouble finding people to interview.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-3472907295375360192008-02-22T19:16:00.000-05:002008-02-22T19:16:00.000-05:00Here's the proof about the 2006 Food City 500 at B...Here's the proof about the 2006 Food City 500 at Bristol, broken down by Jayski:<BR/><BR/>http://www.jayski.com/stats/2006grids/2006bms1-grid.htm<BR/><BR/>Unless the starting lineup on Jayski's at 7:00 is wrong, the rules have not changed from 2006. The #10 team and Speed Channel made a mistake.stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-86774419022318028292008-02-22T19:08:00.000-05:002008-02-22T19:08:00.000-05:00Stricklinfan, you had better check that rule again...<B>Stricklinfan, you had better check that rule again. Earlier today Carpentier said he thought he was in regardless of the weather only to find out that the rainout rule for the first 5 races had been changed and it is based on current owner points which means he is out. On Go Or Go Home Steve Byrnes thought the rule was the same as last year where the top 35 in points from last year were in and John Roberts corrected him with the above version which he said they verified with Nascar.</B><BR/><BR/>John Roberts explanation said the field was baed on this year's top 42 in current owner's points, which would put Ryan Newman and Kurt Busch on the front row. The starting lineup I saw had Johnson and Gordon on the front row, which backs up my understanding of the rules.<BR/><BR/>I would recommend reading Jayski for a full explanation. This rule has not changed since at least 2006. Look at the starting lineup for the spring race at Bristol of that year. Top 35 in 2005 owner's points, then '05/'06 race winners (none), then past champions (Terry Labonte), then 2006 (not 2005) owner's points and qualifying attempts.<BR/><BR/>Patrick Carpentier and the #10 team didn't understand that the rules in races 1-5 are different from races 6-36. They probably assumed the whole field was baed on 2007 points, but they were not correct.<BR/><BR/>Again, if the starting lineup on Jayski at 7:00 eastern is accurate than I am correct that nothing has changed since 2006.stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9287855694933637032008-02-22T18:56:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:56:00.000-05:00Forgot to mention on rainouts it is the top 42 in ...Forgot to mention on rainouts it is the top 42 in owners points. It wasn't mentioned where number 43 is derived from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23902428398370317702008-02-22T18:53:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:53:00.000-05:00Stricklinfan, you had better check that rule again...Stricklinfan, you had better check that rule again. Earlier today Carpentier said he thought he was in regardless of the weather only to find out that the rainout rule for the first 5 races had been changed and it is based on current owner points which means he is out. On Go Or Go Home Steve Byrnes thought the rule was the same as last year where the top 35 in points from last year were in and John Roberts corrected him with the above version which he said they verified with Nascar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56993122179558921852008-02-22T18:52:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:52:00.000-05:00Hey guys,Got a nice note from the TV compound talk...Hey guys,<BR/><BR/>Got a nice note from the TV compound talking about your comments and the fact that SPEED basically only had one race so far this season to review. That can only take you so far, and three hours was about it.<BR/><BR/>The drivers were in their haulers and the pickins' were slim for stories and interviews. There is a new post up about tonight's NASCAR Now, and once again we really appreciate the TV crews at the track reading The Daly Planet and offering their feedback. <BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19093534386472360512008-02-22T18:36:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:36:00.000-05:00Oh Strickland you are so naive to think that quali...<B>Oh Strickland you are so naive to think that qualifying would go off at midnight EASTERN. <BR/><BR/>you posted at 5PM ET 2PM Pacific that after five hours 7PM PT they would then have 90 minutes of practice followed by 90 minutes of Insurance practice making it now 10PM Pacific = 1AM Eastern then have qualifying. Sure you are not friends with Erik?</B><BR/><BR/>Qualifying at California would only take around 2 hours, so 3 hours of practice plus 2 hours of qualifying starting at 7:00 PST would have pushed things right to midnight local time.<BR/><BR/>Out of fairness to the go-or-go homers I would have liked to see them do that, but at the same time I wasn't naive enough to believe that they would. Oh well.<BR/><BR/>I don't know how being sympathetic to the go-or-go homers and wanting to see them get a chance to qualify makes me like the "ESPN is great and everyone else is terrible" guy you compared me to.. but maybe that's just me.stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-58580459930207509312008-02-22T18:35:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:35:00.000-05:00Bad weather again, qualifying not going to happen....Bad weather again, qualifying not going to happen. At the end of NASCAR Now on ESPN2, you could see hail coming down on the track. I hope the cars are all tucked away. <BR/><BR/>SPEED has finally gotten tired of showing Back in the Day and has started showing Survival of the Fastest, beginning with the episode right before the Chase. I think it's a DEI episode with Truex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-68250041469849684592008-02-22T18:34:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:34:00.000-05:00Qualifying for Cup cancelled at 6:25 ET. What a ...Qualifying for Cup cancelled at 6:25 ET. What a bummer. Planned my whole evening around NASCAR.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03138762423112575914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53213050760662421292008-02-22T18:21:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:21:00.000-05:00NASCAR needs to give Schrader, Skinner, Carpentier...<B>NASCAR needs to give Schrader, Skinner, Carpentier, Lamar, and Allmendinger a fair chance to make the show.<BR/></B><BR/><BR/>Of course, they called qualifying for rain several times last season...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48009288270792668442008-02-22T18:18:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:18:00.000-05:00Now John Roberts is talking about these "new" rule...Now John Roberts is talking about these "new" rules for qualifying rain-outs in the first 5 races of a season. Again I wish these broadcasters had a grasp of these qualifying rules. There is absolutely nothing new about these rules. These exact rules were used as recently as Bristol in the 5th race of 2006!<BR/><BR/>How can everyone working on these broadcasts be this clueless?stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9299327182715239602008-02-22T18:13:00.000-05:002008-02-22T18:13:00.000-05:00Is todayMY NASCARYour NASCAROur NASCARor their NAS...Is today<BR/>MY NASCAR<BR/>Your NASCAR<BR/>Our NASCAR<BR/><BR/>or their NASCAR<BR/><BR/>Oh Strickland you are so naive to think that qualifying would go off at midnight EASTERN. <BR/><BR/>you posted at 5PM ET 2PM Pacific that after five hours 7PM PT they would then have 90 minutes of practice followed by 90 minutes of Insurance practice making it now 10PM Pacific = 1AM Eastern then have qualifying. Sure you are not friends with Erik?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-67798285433989387972008-02-22T17:58:00.000-05:002008-02-22T17:58:00.000-05:00Now (at least last year) FOX uses COPS as its rain...<B>Now (at least last year) FOX uses COPS as its rain delay replacement - maybe we should be glad SPEED doesn't have that annoying show to use.</B><BR/><BR/>You know, we found that really insulting last year. No race today, NASCAR fans? We'll we know what kind of programming you like and will keep you NASCAR people watching Fox..."Cops"!<BR/><BR/>Yuck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-83074988703680263102008-02-22T17:47:00.000-05:002008-02-22T17:47:00.000-05:00SPEED had brief update Same thing as of 5:30 that ...SPEED had brief update Same thing as of 5:30 that everyone mentioned above. No racing. Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson out on the track checking it. The sky didn't look that bad, so maybe there's hope. But no sun. Probably depends on how much water is coming up in the track.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-73415921949937240192008-02-22T17:36:00.000-05:002008-02-22T17:36:00.000-05:00please have jeff gordon explain why he has never m...please have jeff gordon explain why he has never mentioned his late father JIMMY GORDON from back in the day in california the west coast king of the behind the wheel driver /jimmy ment a untimely death crashedcand died hard hitting the first turn wall after being TBONED at the roseville raceway track in a late modle car. I`m a dale sr. fan a dale jr. fan an jeff gordon fan but most of all MY HERRO was and in my minds eye still is jimmy gordon.<BR/>thankyou jackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29871800909304536102008-02-22T17:11:00.000-05:002008-02-22T17:11:00.000-05:00I think the issue is not that it's raining - it st...I think the issue is not that it's raining - it stopped raining a couple hours ago. The track has little leaks of water in the asphalt.<BR/><BR/>You can't dry a two mile track in an area like Fontana when the mist is in the air directly above it and it has those "weepers". As the evening goes on I don't know that it will get drier. If this had cleared up early this morning and the sun came out they would have had a better chance.<BR/><BR/>My bet is they'll shut the garage by 3 Pacific, 6 Eastern. It's unrealistic IMO for SPEED to stay on to what would be 2-3 in the morning Eastern, even if NASCAR was still conducting activity.<BR/><BR/>But I think that they're finding weepers in the asphalt shows that if it rains on Sunday for any length of time, that race won't run until Monday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-71858632404214358392008-02-22T16:47:00.000-05:002008-02-22T16:47:00.000-05:00I still hope NASCAR is dedicated to getting this C...I still hope NASCAR is dedicated to getting this Cup qualifying session in tonight, even if it takes until 11 PM or midnight PST, and if it gets that far I hope Speed sticks around to cover it. NASCAR needs to give Schrader, Skinner, Carpentier, Lamar, and Allmendinger a fair chance to make the show.<BR/><BR/>Even if it takes another 5 hours for the rain to stop there's still plenty of time to get the Cup cars 90 minutes of practice, get the Nationwide cars out there for their first practice session of the week while the Cup cars are being inspected, and then get the Cup cars qualified. I don't think anyone would be too upset about Truck qualifying being scrapped because they already had their practice yesterday and every truck entered will race tomorrow whether there's qualifying or not.stricklinfan82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01808897974344304657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53804891826889287202008-02-22T16:42:00.000-05:002008-02-22T16:42:00.000-05:00I got home and checked to see what was on SPEED, B...I got home and checked to see what was on SPEED, Back in the day was going off (4:30 here). John Roberts came on for a minute to say still no track activity. They showed footage of Jeff Gordon and Robin Pemberton out touching the track surface, I assume they wanted Jeff to give his opinion, and he must have said no. They showed Jeff talking to Steve Letarte and Zippy I guess they wanted to know what he thought. They said the fog over the mountains is not allowing the track to dry even though it's not raining.<BR/><BR/>So nothing going on, they said Trackside would be on at the scheuled time no matter what, which doesn't make sense, what if they are still practicing or qualifying? It will only be 7 out there. Unless they're thinking everything is going to be off today.<BR/><BR/>And back to Back in the day. (I don't care for that show either, so switched to Jim Rome on ESPN after JR went off.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-91052212868028689702008-02-22T16:30:00.000-05:002008-02-22T16:30:00.000-05:00Regarding the rainout qualifying rules for the beg...Regarding the rainout qualifying rules for the beginning of the season - it is shocking broadcast professionals don't know the rules.<BR/><BR/>It only takes a two minute visit to jayski's qualifying page if you don't know. Plus, I assume the networks have access to the elusive NASCAR rule book anyway.<BR/><BR/>The same thing applies to teams/crew chiefs/drivers. It's not that difficult to figure out who is in and who is out. For a team to not know the rules (especially given the weather forecast) is shocking.<BR/><BR/>Of course, like a lot of things in sports, it seems like fans take things a lot more seriously than the athletes. I don't know if this is a good thing, but our passion certainly pays their bills.<BR/><BR/>Hope the rain clears this weekend!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com