tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post4761876132142408859..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Last Deep Breath For NASCAR TV CrowdDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23470584998944187852009-08-28T20:26:16.122-04:002009-08-28T20:26:16.122-04:00@ Anon 8:17, good point. Bet you're right.@ Anon 8:17, good point. Bet you're right.Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-7208892017760744592009-08-28T20:17:43.305-04:002009-08-28T20:17:43.305-04:00Very astute observation, David. It makes me wonde...Very astute observation, David. It makes me wonder what sort of due diligence Brian France and his crew did in negotiating the TV contract. Its not like ESPN just started showing college football on Saturdays.<br /><br />Its like buying a house by an airport and then griping about the noise from the airplanes flying overhead.<br /><br />NASCAR really screwed this one up and the fans are paying the price. No matter what ESPN execs said about a "diamond in the rough", I think ABC/ESPN just really wanted the chase, and a few races leading up to it.<br /><br />Its my opinion that in order to secure the Chase, NASCAR made ESPN pick up the Nationwide series as well. They made it a package deal pawning something off less desirable in order to also get the golden nugget.<br /><br />ESPN has always treated the Nationwide series as yesterday's leftovers.<br /><br />By the way, where the heck are the live practice sessions and live qualifying for tomorrow?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11212293180954957882009-08-28T16:28:32.733-04:002009-08-28T16:28:32.733-04:00JD, NASCAR made the boo boo by putting the NW Seri...JD, NASCAR made the boo boo by putting the NW Series on a dedicated network family. I rather enjoyed it when it was in sync with the Cup package. If it was a network like a Versus that doesn't have a stake in the Cup Series, think of how good the coverage would be though?<br /><br />They made a move in the right direction by allowing Marty Reid in the booth with Rusty and Randy though so credit where it is due. Now they just need to step up and give these 3 the primary duty of handling the Nationwide Series full time all year long. Use the ABC races as a rehearsal for JP, Andy and DJ but let the guys who have something at "stake" in the NW Series call it the way it should.<br /><br />If they replaced Rusty though, wouldn't bother me lol.The Loose Wheelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06048709313597675807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-55252756630564933062009-08-28T14:22:03.942-04:002009-08-28T14:22:03.942-04:00Anon 10:52AM,
When ESPN got the NASCAR contract, ...Anon 10:52AM,<br /><br />When ESPN got the NASCAR contract, the Prez of the network said the Nationwide Series was "a diamond in the rough" that ESPN would develop.<br /><br />The reason this made sense is because the Nationwide Series is the ONLY NASCAR series that the ESPN networks carry from start to finish.<br /><br />The only other involvement is the final seventeen Cup races. Instead of following through on this promise, ESPN has done the same thing for the last two seasons.<br /><br />They pour all their resources and manpower into the N'wide events right up until they switch over to the Cup series coverage. Once they have their minds focused on Cup, the N'wide series is pushed onto the back burner.<br /><br />Well, who that leaves in a lurch are the ESPN viewers who have been watching this series since February. We now know the personalities, the youngsters and the Cup drivers who are involved in the championship hunt.<br /><br />When football begins, the change in the level of Nationwide Series coverage is criminal. Pushed around networks, sent to ESPN Classic and even bumped to SPEED.<br /><br />Why not man-up and either decide to give the N'wide Series good coverage or shift it to SPEED and simply concentrate on Cup down the stretch?<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-64482889771541170102009-08-28T14:11:04.320-04:002009-08-28T14:11:04.320-04:00This "newraceface" has been an avid fan ...This "newraceface" has been an avid fan for about 5 years so I don't remember when all we got was a 3 minute blurb on wide world of sports. I learned to love Nascar by watching Mike Joy and the Fox guys and still prefer them to all the others. Yes Digger is a problem but overuse of car camera, single car shots, never seeing anyone outside the top 5 are bigger problems for me. The job of the guys in the booth is to make me want to look at the screen. Fox is the best at that unfortunately the race breaks, promotions, and car camera shots are hindering them greatly. I wonder if we would all be screaming about Digger if all we had was the cute little commercial and an occasional graphic in the corner and silence on the subject from the booth. Of course all those Race Breaks, video clips, etc would need to go too for it to be effective. Perhaps we wouldn't be as annoyed with DW's love affair with Kyle Busch (he was doing pretty well back then so I'm thinking he would have moved on to Smoke and Mark but I digress) if he wasn't also promoting Digger and what ever else he was told to by the Fox people. Mike etc still make me want to look at the TV screen now the pictures I see need to keep me there. <br /> <br />TNT did an excellent job with the picture aspect and Race Buddy is a bonus that I used for commercials. Ralph works for me much better than Weber but I prefer Mike, DW, etc yelling TROUBLE in turn 4 then details to Kyle's and Wally woooo and a long wait for specifics. When that happened I tended to look at Pit Command or Race Buddy on my laptop and I could usually figure out who's involved before they told me, if it was something big. My perfect world would have TNT camera work with an agenda-less Fox crew.<br /><br />Then comes ESPN they for the most part don't make me want to look at the TV screen and when I do they don't keep me there. JP has no change in tone except when promoting a commercial. DJ and AP try but they are so busy doing what they are not suppose to they can't analyze which is their job. AP has been off lately and I'm wondering if it's the lack of information from the Pit Road reporters, we have all heard Larry Mac hounding them to get him information. Perhaps Andy can't or hasn't though of it. It will be interesting to see if AP will do better with someone who actually does PxP so he can do what he was suppose to do. ESPN camera work is a mess just like Fox's can be with the tight shots and car cameras because even if the PxP continues to be poor I would at least be looking at the screen instead of the little circles on my laptop because it gave me a better idea of who was racing who. I am even more worried now that the chase is almost hear once that happens I'll never hear about any of my other drivers because the won't be the magic 12. I am a huge JJ fan so I'll know what he is doing but I like several others who will not be in the chase an if it's anything like last year unless they win the race or crash big it's like they stayed home even with a good run. <br /><br />I need to stop now and go back to work. I am sure this post is long enough already.Newracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16324764517098771035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-30080681770657086812009-08-28T10:52:48.798-04:002009-08-28T10:52:48.798-04:00It appears to me that the Digger thing is just ano...It appears to me that the Digger thing is just another irritant by the Fox network. Most people who don't like Digger (myself included) also dislike most all of Fox's other coverages. So I guess we can say Fox has manifested itself into one huge cartoon with a little racing thrown in to fill time. Way to go Fox. You must be a legend in your own minds.Ziekenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-87829620433897855172009-08-28T10:52:10.533-04:002009-08-28T10:52:10.533-04:00Fans may remember that last season around this tim...<b>Fans may remember that last season around this time a lot of things began to happen. Once college and pro football began, the post-race press conferences left ESPNEWS. The Nationwide Series pre-race shows often disappeared and sometimes only a good open field tackle allowed a college football game to end just in time for the green flag. Let's hope the ESPN programming folks have a little more mercy on NASCAR fans this season.</b><br /><br />What makes you think anything will change here? What sports has ESPN dropped since last season? What additional networks has ESPN started since last season?<br /><br />Football is still king in America, and everything else will just have to take a back seat.<br /><br />ESPN will still continue to fully utilize its Saturday programming schedule. Frankly, I don't blame them. Thats there big day, and they need to get as much out of it as they can. Its no different than an airline that overbooks trying to maximize revenue. Empty airline seats doesn't make you money. Likewise, dead time one of your main TV networks doesn't make you money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-44448052456697823492009-08-28T10:08:27.050-04:002009-08-28T10:08:27.050-04:00There's nothing like the smell of a forum in t...There's nothing like the smell of a forum in the morning.<br /><br />To all the pro-digger people out there.....I dunno if it's even fair to consider you 'race' fans.<br /><br />A true race fan would be up in arms about the whole digger thing. It's a shameless act of profitability by Fox....and all you folks who waste money on the digger junk are deserving of the online criticism, whether you buy it for your kids or not.<br /><br />It's like, GO BUY YOUR KIDS SOME TOY RACE CARS.<br /><br />Like I said in my previous post, I don't mean to offend anyone or come off as a jerk.<br /><br />It's just....sad, though. This is what a race broadcast has become. <br /><br />Could you imagine Ken Squier trying to sell Digger crap, let alone anything else? NEVER. Or even Dr. Punch? Nope.<br /><br />And I think somebody mentioned earlier about bringing the kids to a short track.....THAT is the way to make your kids love the sport. That's how I got into it. From age 3 on, I went to Oxford Plains Speedway 10-15 times a year. I loved it. And it led me to my love of NASCAR.<br /><br />Sorry to repeat something I said earlier, but......NASCAR needs to earn back the trust and loyalty of it's current fans and the ones it has lost, rather than cater to children in HOPES that they'll one day be fans. And Digger, ESPN's coverage, and the NASCAR brass aren't helping.<br /><br />What do you think a non-NASCAR fan would say if they decided to check out the race, only the first thing they happened to see on their screen was Digger? They'd say 'what is this crap? Is this what people get when they watch a race?'<br /><br />P.S.-Does the NFL broadcast have a 5 minute cartoon of their robot before the game? I don't think so.<br /><br />Sorry if this blog was extra long, JD, it's just I can't stress enough how depressing the whole TV deal is across the board, especially the travesty that is Digger.Smiff_99noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-20188006327771223782009-08-28T08:38:27.858-04:002009-08-28T08:38:27.858-04:00peggyann...we can agree to disagree, but we're...peggyann...we can agree to disagree, but we're not going to stop complaining about the cartoon gopher. There are people on this blog who've lost jobs and yes, there are a lot bigger things in life to worry about, but this is a place to get your mind off those things. It's unfair to make assumptions about people's lives because they complain about things they don't like on TV.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-59641216973678504082009-08-28T00:55:06.822-04:002009-08-28T00:55:06.822-04:00I really wish all the Digger bashing would stop. I...I really wish all the Digger bashing would stop. I know several kids (above 7!) who are fans of both the rodent and NASCAR. I personally found the little rugrat who personified Race Buddy most distasteful. If Digger is the only thing you have in life to rant about, you have far fewer troubles than I do. <br /><br />I won't be reading all the protests about my opinion. We are keeping our fingers crossed about the weather in Joliet tomorrow and will hopefully be there to watch the ARCA and Truck series races. And maybe IRL qualifying.peggyannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07777698566879951497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-60964025847366496902009-08-27T21:22:10.321-04:002009-08-27T21:22:10.321-04:00uh, I believe that'd be Ryan Newman, Tony'...uh, I believe that'd be Ryan Newman, Tony's teammate. It isn't about the driver, as Tony would probably tell you. It's about the owner who put the right people in the right places, but with Hendrick power, his job was made just a little easier. I am not Darbar, in fact I disagree about the COT, but I think the other teams were behind on their technology, and any HMS or satellite teams have hit upon a good combinaton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61175521183866342922009-08-27T21:04:21.280-04:002009-08-27T21:04:21.280-04:00And why did he not point out that five drivers in ...<b>And why did he not point out that five drivers in the top 10 are driving Hendrick cars---and are part of the whole big money Hendrick system?</b><br /><br />I count three Hendrick drivers in the top 12.<br /><br />How do you get five? Tony? Yeah, that car (Haas-CNC) has been using Hendrick engines for several years, and I don't recall seeing it in the top 20 before, let alone the Chase. Maybe the driver makes the difference, huh?<br /><br />Who else are you claiming is an HMS driver?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-90819858485494147292009-08-27T21:03:11.507-04:002009-08-27T21:03:11.507-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-6245741569129227872009-08-27T20:58:33.955-04:002009-08-27T20:58:33.955-04:00Really? You can't just change the channel for ...<b>Really? You can't just change the channel for the five minutes while the cartoon is on? Your choice, but to not watch the prerace because of a silly cartoon seems a bit much to me.</b><br /><br />I shouldn't have to change the channel. I tuned in to watch trace coverage, not cartoons.<br /><br />For decades, kids have become baseball fans, football fans, hockey fans, and yes, even race fans, without having cutesy cartoons run during the live game coverage.<br /><br />Digger is a stupid idea designed by people who don't like actual racing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47783539914912328232009-08-27T20:55:25.130-04:002009-08-27T20:55:25.130-04:00Josh, I think people are saying that Fox risks its...Josh, I think people are saying that Fox risks its prerace ratings by showing a cartoon during a program aimed primarily at adults. When a friend of mine who doesn't blog and barely looks at racing websites asked me if I saw the ridiculous gopher cartoon, I knew it wasn't just me. I watch football too, and the robot...I forget its name...comes on, it's not while a play is being run. That's the difference. Every interview, every taped piece, every gopher cam shot takes time away from actual racing. Yes, I sometimes turn away *intending* to flip back the channel, and then I realize 20 minutes has gone by.<br /><br />JD...I love being considered an 'old school' fan...11 years ago, I was the newbie, everyone said I was fickle & it wouldn't last, (they thought we were all 'bandwagon' fans) and now I'm old school, that's awesome, lol.glenc1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9886255695252219142009-08-27T20:45:30.242-04:002009-08-27T20:45:30.242-04:00Some thoughts:
-I wish FOX & ESPN would make ...Some thoughts:<br /><br />-I wish FOX & ESPN would make something similar to TNT's Race Buddy. That's the best innovation in a while. I liked having 4 camera angles on my computer to go along with the TV broadcast, especially when it was commercial time.<br /><br />-Speaking of TNT, I don't know what made the difference, but the post-2006 TNT's coverage is MUCH better than what we saw 2001-06. The NBC/TNT coverage always felt stuffy. The current coverage is much more enjoyable. FOX is still my favorite, but I'm getting to where I wish TNT's part of the TV contract was a few weeks longer.<br /><br />-3 years on, I still can't get excited for ESPN's coverage of NASCAR.<br /><br />-Shootouts are for hockey. "Double-file restart: Shootout Style" sounds like Brian France is trying to manufacture extra hype for something that can create its own excitement without an extra nickname.<br /><br />-I don't get the Digger hate. If people hate it in the pre-race so much, wouldn't it be easier to go grab a beer, a bag of chips, or change the channel for a couple minutes while the cartoon's on?<br /><br />For those complaining about seeing Digger coming out of commercials, is it any different than FOX's Robot on the NFL broadcasts that we've seen for years now?Joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38983874952617616612009-08-27T20:34:19.618-04:002009-08-27T20:34:19.618-04:00tom,
NMG owns the video one day after the race i...tom, <br /><br />NMG owns the video one day after the race is over. It is used for news highlights and then just like the PGA, NFL and MLB becomes the property of their in-house video company.<br /><br />That is why the old NASCAR races can play on ESPN Classic, those were produced by ESPN before NMG came along so ESPN still owns them.<br /><br />Any online piece like RaceBuddy has to be done in cooperation with the TV network doing the race. That is the shame of all these various pieces being scattered around. <br /><br />If NASCAR decided that side-by-side commercial breaks, a new NASCAR.com provider and a full-time online RaceBuddy-style application should be their focus for 2010, the entire sport would change.<br /><br />The only thing each of the individual pieces of the TV pie is offering right now are excuses. <br /><br />As usual, the fans are left holding the bag.<br /><br />Jessica, <br /><br />Only DW is more polarizing then Digger. Inserting this cartoon into the NASCAR pre-race and the animated character into the races made "old school" fans go bonkers.<br /><br />But, as long as Fox has the rights to the races they can use good old Digger just as much as they want to.<br /><br />Please don't take differing opinions personally. Everyone has a viewpoint and where NASCAR fans are concerned, we are probably going to hear what they think.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43503204073734281242009-08-27T20:21:39.380-04:002009-08-27T20:21:39.380-04:00Really? You can't just change the channel for ...Really? You can't just change the channel for the five minutes while the cartoon is on? Your choice, but to not watch the prerace because of a silly cartoon seems a bit much to me. <br /><br />Again, it's making a mountain out of a molehill. Pun intended. <br /><br />I just don't think it takes away from the racing itself, it might be a bit much that they show him every time they come back from commercial, but in the big picture, it's not a big deal.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10872035951484273463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-21786651537668647502009-08-27T19:57:23.992-04:002009-08-27T19:57:23.992-04:00it's not harmless when there is racing going o...it's not harmless when there is racing going on and we're seeing the rodent instead. Before the race, if they want to run a five minutes cartoon instead of interviewing someone interesting...well I guess that's their choice. But they lose fans like me who no longer watch their prerace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-12294363058017747292009-08-27T19:48:45.681-04:002009-08-27T19:48:45.681-04:00Wow, I didn't expect such a response to my Dig...Wow, I didn't expect such a response to my Digger post. The truth is, my kids still watch the races with my husband and i even though FOX isn't on the air any more. I think they would've ended up being race fans anyway since we are, but Digger's presence helped start it sooner. Like I said, we went to Dover this spring and the Digger trailer was probably the third busiest one throughout the days behind Junior and Tony. <br /><br />I just don't understand all the hate for Digger, it's almost like people just feel the need to complain about something. It's harmless, silly fun. He's not to be taken seriously by adults at all, positively or negatively.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10872035951484273463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16436684184636660962009-08-27T19:36:07.407-04:002009-08-27T19:36:07.407-04:00Got a question for you, JD.
Referencing your earl...Got a question for you, JD.<br /><br />Referencing your earlier YouTube column, is there anything preventing Turner Sports from deploying "RaceBuddy" online for the entire Sprint Cup season? If I understand that NASCAR, through NMG, owns the entire video content of every race, wouldn't it be possible to ramp up the RaceBuddy platform not just when TNT has their segment, but also during the FOX and ESPN segments?tom in daytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00114092644890003246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53953590947889607962009-08-27T18:47:41.948-04:002009-08-27T18:47:41.948-04:00GramaFan...thanks for sharing those memories, very...GramaFan...thanks for sharing those memories, very cool. Doesn't mean we're gonna stop asking for better coverage though!<br />:)<br /><br />I know lots of people who are/were fans of S&P car drivers. Dave Blaney, particularly, since he ran full time in Cup. I think most of us see, the drivers are the worker bees, the owners are the ones responsible. And in *some* cases, I can understand it. Robby's solo team probably made some tire money when they ran PJ at the Glen. Made me sad for him though. I think some only do it when they've run out of money to finish (can't pay a pit crew, etc.) But the ones who go full out from the start, you listening Phil? that's just wrong. But I do think they need to mention it, I almost had a stroke when Punch actually said S&P the other day. I hate to say it, but there is a 30% chance of rain in Montreal...let's hope it holds off.glenc1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80069294215174032212009-08-27T18:13:36.744-04:002009-08-27T18:13:36.744-04:00I think Randy would do a better broadcast than AP ...I think Randy would do a better broadcast than AP in Montreal. I think AP needs a vacation he's been sub-par the last 3 or 4 races.Vicky Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13084198036514255332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-18098199903688064612009-08-27T18:09:51.628-04:002009-08-27T18:09:51.628-04:00Sometimes I think I lived thru the "great&quo...Sometimes I think I lived thru the "great" days of auto racing when it was racing. We had no TV coverage, per se - I remember the night the team we worked with hurried back to our house to watch the local news since they had won. Racing was never mentioned so I wrote to the Lancaster, PA newspaper and the TV station. Got little response tho the newspaper did carry a few after I told them who was at the house reading and watching. Thus, be thankful for the poor reporting now. Another "cute" note here - we had stopped at a diner - had on Fike Plumbing shirts I made and people there thought we had been to the Maple Grove Dragway near-by. Oh yes, car was on open trailer in front of diner. For those unfamiliar with it - was a Chevy powered sprint car with Parnelli Jones name on side - So let's be thankful that we have to sit thru the "odd" reporting - I use the mood "mute" button well and I am TV and PC challenged. And, I am biased - my children played in the tracks infields with many others - one being Wally Dallenbach and his brother and sister. Thus, I like him. Another thought - I hate "S&P" racing and I am a fan of one of those - I support him tho he knows I dislike the method. No rain this week-end in Montreal - no extra TV time for the "announcers".GramaFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01818424302887962822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-6363331730077860232009-08-27T17:52:40.984-04:002009-08-27T17:52:40.984-04:00DARBAR:
I too thought Manske's skirt was inap...DARBAR:<br /><br />I too thought Manske's skirt was inappropriately short for a Presidential interview, but we obviously elected a different kind of president this past November. Most earlier administrations would've nixed such attire beforehand.<br /><br />And anyway, you don't REALLY mean anyone would have WANTED to see Helen Thomas or Andrea Mitchell in a mini & spikes, even in their younger years, do you? Puh-leeze!<br /><br />And it seems to me when I myself was a youngster, I can recall only one or two drivers (#43 or 21 sound familiar?) winning EVERY race. By multiple LAPS in many cases.<br /><br />Craven's OK in my book. Ask most drivers and they'll volunteer that they're enjoying the racing this year.<br /><br />P.S. as for on-air talent not mentioning problems like start-and-park, have a look at the Little League World Series: the ghost of Eric Gregg is calling a 2-foot-wide strike zone! It's embarrassing how bad it is, yet Orel Hershiser & company have barely questioned any calls. ESPN needs the programming and Little League needs the big TV money. It's the same in ALL the sports - you just don't get any serious criticism of blatant problems any more, so don't expect NASCAR to be any different.Dannyboynoreply@blogger.com