tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post5463438021505800993..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Your Turn: Sprint Cup Series On ESPN From Kansas SpeedwayDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8511209472122900152010-10-04T22:42:00.055-04:002010-10-04T22:42:00.055-04:00SO, DO YOU GIVE KUDOS TO ESPN?
- Dustin Long.
Hea...SO, DO YOU GIVE KUDOS TO ESPN?<br />- Dustin Long.<br /><br />Heard about some complaints from last weekend's race about when ESPN took commercial breaks and how long they were, so since I was at home this weekend, I timed all the time ESPN showed racing and how long their commercial breaks were.<br /><br />At the first part of the race (first 27 minutes), ESPN showed 17:02 of racing and had 10:38 in commercial time. Some would argue that's a heavy load of commercials early in the race. But by doing that _ and with the way cautions happened during the middle of the race _ ESPN showed the final 22:56 of the race without taking a break. They took a break as Biffle headed to Victory Lane.<br /><br />Of the commercial breaks, none was more than 3 minutes. Most were in the 2:30-2:45 range.<br /><br /> So, if you have to have commercials _ and don't even argue about fewer commercials because that's partly how the bills get paid for networks _ where do you want your commercials? Are you fine with being able to watch the last 20 or so minutes of a race without a break? Or something else?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19550343297667091072010-10-04T19:35:37.405-04:002010-10-04T19:35:37.405-04:00Todd, they had to sell the Rock *because* attendan...Todd, they had to sell the Rock *because* attendance was off & they were losing money. The last race, with only one, they didn't come close to filling the place. I loved racing there, but there was just too much saturation--it makes you vulnerable when NASCAR wishes to get both their spectators and TV markets into new areas. North Wilkesboro did not keep their facilities up, they never progressed like, say, Bristol or Richmond & were ripe for a 'takeover' so to speak. People can glorify the old days, but you also have to be realistic about what you have (Bowman Gray thrives even though NASCAR outgrew them.)Kathy16noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-36267381738943320522010-10-04T18:02:33.239-04:002010-10-04T18:02:33.239-04:00NH apparently gave away a bunch of tickets to get ...NH apparently gave away a bunch of tickets to get the crowd they did. Kind of irritating when we paid full price for ours.<br /><br />Dover was 70% full at best. The track is only 2 hrs drive for us and you get a great view of the whole track if you sit up high in the corners like we do. I just wish that it would race like it used to -- there used to be some cool battles side by side on the high banks, but now with the COT and the goodyear tire rubbering it up - it has been a one groove track for several seasons and the racing IS boring when its all a parade so attendance has been falling off.<br /><br />The TV can't fix the way the tracks or the way the ugly car races, but by continuing to provide a scripted broadcast, it won't attract new fans and it will drive the old fans who hate the chase away even more.<br /><br />I'm glad that you'll get to see a chase race in C'land, so have fun.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76227101841300364732010-10-04T17:58:53.343-04:002010-10-04T17:58:53.343-04:00DW and Kenny on RaceDay: Awesome. The race coverag...DW and Kenny on RaceDay: Awesome. The race coverage: not so good, but I'm learning to ignore the booth and focus on the cars. But I have to say it again: it's great to see DW and Kenny kicking it old school, instead of the vanilla drones that most seem to desire. We all have to be careful to not blame the coverage and the on-air personalities for our discontent with our drivers' finishes.Allisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11764897016671673602010-10-04T17:18:21.045-04:002010-10-04T17:18:21.045-04:00yeah Gina Its much easier to follow live no doubt ...yeah Gina Its much easier to follow live no doubt but ESPN did a better job this week than last weeks let down! How were the past 2 races bet you had a blast! How full was Dover? 50 60 70%?? Im happy next year Chicago gets a Chase race ill get to goJonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43331783986211304532010-10-04T16:36:15.761-04:002010-10-04T16:36:15.761-04:00JD...I did notice that the sound on regular or hdt...JD...I did notice that the sound on regular or hdtv was pretty bad. You can't hear the announcers for the cars, but If you have a surround sound system, go to it, and jack up the center, and turn down the rears, and you'll hear the announcers. Rockingham lost it's races becuase B. Smith bought it so he could take the races away. Same with N. Wilksboro.Todd Cranenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47917578251796242232010-10-04T14:10:26.029-04:002010-10-04T14:10:26.029-04:00yankeegranny, just because ESPN did a crappy job o...yankeegranny, just because ESPN did a crappy job of showing the racing doesn't mean Kansas didn't deserve 2 dates. That's based on (relative) attendance. <br /><br />It was attendance (or lack thereof) that cost Darlington 1 race, and Rockingham all. Kansas at least draws in from areas not already covered in the midwest where there are a lot of racing series. I saw 'relative' attendance because it's been down everywhere, even Bristol & Richmond, so I think you have to take the market into account. <br /><br />Also...I have to say, while I think it's dishonest to say the stands are full when they aren't, it also isn't really relevant to a TV broadcast. Even if there are 3 thousand watching a truck race, it shouldn't affect the coverage of the actual racing, so it's not something I find that important (knowing that the economy is what it is.) I think the racing appeared to be good, we just couldn't see it all. It was pretty good on restarts, and then it went downhill. I also think think the ad placement was better. You have to fit them in one way or another. While I think NASCAR needs to relent on side by side, I think ESPN has said they would be up for it so we can't be blaming them on amount, only on timing.<br /><br />The worst thing for me was the emphasis on the Chase guys, even though I was prepared for it. It is kind of interesting how they start all spread out and by 20 laps to go they're usually all up there (which is why they're in it...) But guys like Menard & Newman deserved some love also.glenc1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-39034661836478811922010-10-04T12:38:15.689-04:002010-10-04T12:38:15.689-04:00I wonder how many times the word "chase"...I wonder how many times the word "chase" was used during the race coverage. I'm guessing a few hundred?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-17159922756927155962010-10-04T11:57:22.559-04:002010-10-04T11:57:22.559-04:00Well JD, I tried it different this week. No blog a...Well JD, I tried it different this week. No blog and very little twitter, just TV. I was surprised to see what I consider changes. The commercials seemed better handled. Camera shot selection seemed better this week. Wonder if it was a different director this week? <br />However it was not what I would call a good broadcast. Booth monkeys were lost at times. I really think that if DJ and Andy took their ear buds out and just said what they wanted to we would have a better called race. Marty is still lost at times. Maybe he will get better with time.<br />ESPN often fails to call all the action because they have just got to stick to that script. They will take to long to try to explain what happened instead of just telling what happened. They continue to talk to the "new fans" who might not know what is happening. While they do that, the old timers are getting fed up and going to watch football which manages their commercials perfectly.richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07439356499324682338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-32720822183239920432010-10-04T11:28:45.846-04:002010-10-04T11:28:45.846-04:00Jonathan, perhaps I should have said it differentl...Jonathan, perhaps I should have said it differently -- the non-race coverage of the broadcast.<br /><br />Sometimes you could actually see racing on the track, but the booth was usually talking about something else or like Seinfield's show "nothing at all".<br /><br />I just don't find watching the TV broadcasts that exciting any more -- remember I am coming off being at the track for the last 2 races so I could watch everywhere not just where the ADHD cameras were pointing.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-22844931997805044182010-10-04T10:37:33.371-04:002010-10-04T10:37:33.371-04:00Twice, I heard John Roberts claim that the seats w...Twice, I heard John Roberts claim that the seats were all full. They had an elevated camera shot inside the track panning as the cars exited turn four. There were quite a few empty,blue seats when you shot directly into the stands. Naturally, the booth immediately cut to another shot. When they did focus a shot on the main grandstand, they did it from an extreme angle so you couldn't clearly see the empty seats. I think the ratings would be higher if you got rid of Rusty,Allen,Brad,Brewer and Marty. Just let DJ and Andy call the race and have a fair amount of silence where viewers could just take in what they were viewing. These guys in the booth think we're listening to radio where they explain what any idiot can see with their own eyes! Nascar continues to slide and "The Chase" is not going to save them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74232012717245488222010-10-04T10:12:06.443-04:002010-10-04T10:12:06.443-04:00I just don't believe the racing is horrible, I...I just don't believe the racing is horrible, I just think ESPN misses it. I'm a huge Harvick fan and listen in on his radio through TrackPASS. It seem there was a lot of close and great racing he was invovled in. NASCAR didn't even mention he was in the race until 30/40 laps in though. As I saw on Twitter yesterday, at one point the two major things that happened were a caution and a lead change, and ESPN was in commercial both times. It's not their fault stuff happens during the break, just unfortunate I guess. The whole booth seemed off, usually just Marty Reid drives me crazy. As far as the finish, I'm so glad we got to see that "close" battle between Edwards and Gordon coming to the line. Again, I think the racing is a lot better than we see on TV.Mariemont Kiwanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03234316565088299283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-28094327417651927192010-10-04T10:06:35.339-04:002010-10-04T10:06:35.339-04:00ESPN can't figure out why their ratings are so...ESPN can't figure out why their ratings are so low? Maybe they ought to read The Daly Planet on Mondays. However, it looks to me like they have figured it out all by themselves and its start times. I thought they had changed them this year because of last years dipping ratings. Masterful!!!!<br /><br />Also, they might consider toning down the cars just a little so the fans could hear Andy and Dale in the booth. I believe this could be done right there in the production truck.gwsp3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74542566515576444132010-10-04T09:41:47.219-04:002010-10-04T09:41:47.219-04:00As usual, the coverage left a lot to be desired. D...As usual, the coverage left a lot to be desired. Disjointed camera shots and commentary go a long ways towards driving fans away during the last 10 races. Showing one driver while talking about others makes it confusing and adds to the mess. Missing action,like lead changes or cautions,for commercials just adds to the dislike of the coverage.<br /><br />One thing I did notice was they kept mentioning Joey Logano even though he's not a part of the play-offs. Could it be that Home Depot is raising heck about the fact that they're paying for commercials and not getting the additional air time of their sponsored car on the track?<br /><br />Granted, it was nice that the last 22 minutes were commercial free. But having to suffer through the rest of the race with all it's faults makes me wonder if it was "worth the price of admission". <br /><br />I also noticed that BSPN did a great job of not showing the grandstands. Tight shots from the blimp and angled shots from ground level made it hard to tell if it really was a sell-out or not.The Mad Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16233595109346758582010-10-04T09:37:00.217-04:002010-10-04T09:37:00.217-04:00Jeepers, JD you are raising expectations about you...Jeepers, JD you are raising expectations about your Tuesday offering. I would recommend at least 4 edits before you publish. Remember, many of us are virtually sitting in the waiting room more or less convinced the patient will likely die or become a vegetable.AncientRacernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76187135825307799092010-10-04T09:16:43.743-04:002010-10-04T09:16:43.743-04:00The weekend started with trying to find the Nation...The weekend started with trying to find the Nationwide race and finding a football game instead and went downhill from there. And the best part was the morons on the booth had no idea there was anything wrong. Good racing in the Nationwide race. Sunday prerace with no sound might have been a blessing in disguise. The less we have to listen to the announcers the better. As to the race/coverage, MARTY REID HAS TO GO. Horrible does not begin to describe him. Hit the mute button and listened to the race on MRN. wow can those guys call a race and you know what is happening during commercials. Another boring race with cars strung out all over the place. Watched JR on raceview and that was another disappointment, as usual. Way, way too many commercials and too much emphasis on the chasers. Paul Manaurd should have been the story of the race,but he was invisible unless he was racing for position with a chaser. Never thought I would say it, but I cannot wait for DW and Fox at least he has passion and knows something about racing. Kansas does not deserve 1 race, let alone 2 next year and one of them a chase race.yankeegrannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-81015844233398983132010-10-04T09:11:04.830-04:002010-10-04T09:11:04.830-04:00"The Waltrip and Wallace clans start the fias..."The Waltrip and Wallace clans start the fiasco with their over-exposure and self-promotion."<br /><br />Thanks OSBORNK- my thoughts exactly. I thought I was the only one who felt this way. Their drive for fame and fortune was when NASCAR jumped the shark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-62267711248814769672010-10-04T00:28:56.104-04:002010-10-04T00:28:56.104-04:0051 yr old fan,
My column on Tuesday will feature ...51 yr old fan,<br /><br />My column on Tuesday will feature that article and ask for comments from fans.<br /><br />This post is for comments about the Kansas race and the current TV presentation of the Chase.<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-32359698922406576122010-10-04T00:21:39.976-04:002010-10-04T00:21:39.976-04:00ESPN VP Julie Sobieski is looking
into the TV rat...ESPN VP Julie Sobieski is looking <br />into the TV ratings drop according<br />to a column from Scene Daily. Maybe she should look at the way ESPN treats real fans by moving<br />around Nascar Now, along with the<br />stale presentation from the booth<br />and the production/direction that<br />leaves the viewers dizzy. <br /><br />With the superior NFL and MLB programs today, I watched only<br />about ten minutes of NA$CAR.51 yr. fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27737678895384685892010-10-04T00:06:42.841-04:002010-10-04T00:06:42.841-04:00Overall this race felt like it was a snooze fest o...Overall this race felt like it was a snooze fest on the track. I watched on DVR around 7 pm. The coverage seemed a little better this week and I won't blame the network because the race was boring. <br />But, ESPN still has the same problems each week, IMHO.<br />1. The on air talent is weak in the booth. The energy level in the booth is non existent. It's lame. It's unbearable. There is no edge, no passion or excitement in the booth. I don't know what happened to the booth, but it's getting worse every week. Silence would be better than the monotone chatting I hear. <br />2. Erratic camera shots and overuse/poor use of technology. The overall race telecast just has no FLOW to it. The coverage just jumps around and I lose track of what is going on in the race. It's very frustrating. The producers are trying to do too much. Just show the damn race!<br />3. Too much talking about nothing during the race. <br />4. ESPN has lost control of the broadcasts. The coverage is fit for a crazy person.Chadderboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08452946399432640630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-70181084202330104522010-10-03T23:31:52.788-04:002010-10-03T23:31:52.788-04:00I have been following Nascar since before 1956. I...I have been following Nascar since before 1956. I think I have come up with the answer to all of your problems with both the races and their coverage. The pitstops are by all accounts much more interesting than the actual race. So, if the TV coverage was shown in 43 little boxes and only showed pitstops they could run the commercials all during green flag racing. <br /><br />Then, the Nascar brains could evolve the sport so that actual racing is only long enough to get in the commercials. We the viewers could then see 3 hours of continuous pitstops, interrupted by commercials. Think of the money to be saved by the owners on barely used cars, tires, fuel and brave drivers. Nascar could then award a cup to the best pitcrew (the last 10 events of the season would be called the run-around).<br /><br />We don't need no "stinkin racing", do we?Rexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34455121658128346782010-10-03T23:17:02.596-04:002010-10-03T23:17:02.596-04:00I dont understand Gina the Non racing??? I thoug...I dont understand Gina the Non racing??? I thought the racing was great today!!Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-60195955400838353432010-10-03T23:16:17.058-04:002010-10-03T23:16:17.058-04:00As for me I am looking forward to the ARCA final o...As for me I am looking forward to the ARCA final on Saturday on Speed. Then I will, as I have for years, go to Talladega. I may watch the race from Charlotte since that is on ABC and I get that in HD. Other than those things I am outta here for this season.<br /><br />I will be very interested to see what "big changes" JD has said to expect for next year, but I am not holding my breath in anticipation of good news.<br /><br />As I leave I am reminded that John Lennon had some advice for NASCAR which he wrote, I believe, before BZF was born:<br /><br />"There's nothing you can do that can't be done.<br />Nothing you can sing that can't be sung.<br />Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game<br />It's easy.<br />There's nothing you can make that can't be made.<br />No one you can save that can't be saved.<br />Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be you<br />in time - It's easy."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38077857741805342252010-10-03T21:52:45.220-04:002010-10-03T21:52:45.220-04:00Same old disjointed, clueless broadcast. Marty'...Same old disjointed, clueless broadcast. Marty's become a fish out of water, the production truck likes to press buttons, and Tim Brewer still has creepy fingernails. <br /><br />Time to mail it in through Homestead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-52613343855559160442010-10-03T21:52:22.532-04:002010-10-03T21:52:22.532-04:00Johnson's in the points lead. They've los...Johnson's in the points lead. They've lost me for the rest of the season unless a post-race inspection drops him to 7th place.<br /><br />I'm not a Gordon fan, but I think that NASCAR needs him up front if they hope to retain any of their diminishing audience. A Gordon-Kyle battle at Homestead would probably sell out. <br /><br />Personally, I'd love to see Gordon and Johnson separated by ten points going into the last race. I think that would be a very exciting duel for many reasons.Andy Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10044383516876179717noreply@blogger.com