tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post6418479207631979111..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: SPEED Delays Truck Race And Fox TV Director On "Trackside"Daly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-40503220433028093782008-05-31T20:44:00.000-04:002008-05-31T20:44:00.000-04:00Unless someone does a well-crafted, focused study,...Unless someone does a well-crafted, focused study, no one can be certain what attracts and keeps new fans. Apparently FOX thinks there is a significant group of viewers that are attracted by shots of family members as the race ends - but apparently ESPN has a different view. If either FOX or ESPN were certain of the effect on viewership of how they handle the end of a race, they would both handle the end in the same way.<BR/><BR/>In almost all cases, I would prefer seeing at least all the cars on the lead lap finish the race in real time - and the girl frinds on replay. However, one very compelling TV shot was the shot of DJ's mother in her car listening to him win the Daytona 500 the 1st time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-55017180153603712542008-05-31T20:41:00.000-04:002008-05-31T20:41:00.000-04:00Could Carl Edwards be any more whitebread on Tradi...Could Carl Edwards be any more whitebread on Tradin' Paint? Come on, Carl. Pick a side and tell people what you think. Carl could be a presidential candidate with how he waffled on every question. "Gee, I can see both sides". Don't ever have Carl on a show that's supposed to be debate. But even this guy from USA Today wasn't great. Why not guys like David Poole?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11489240968582157362008-05-31T16:45:00.000-04:002008-05-31T16:45:00.000-04:00FOX ratings, if they are up...and thats a BIG IF, ...FOX ratings, if they are up...and thats a BIG IF, are not because of a "casual fan" base. Theres no such thing, Sparky!!!<BR/>Hard core fans beget new fans, not diggers or glowing pucks or sound effects and boogity. <BR/>Fans turn other folks into fans, and that fact is lost on FOX. And the fact that they continue to pay a disservice to true fans is the reason for ratings that are essentially flat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19294986099677962008-05-31T14:50:00.000-04:002008-05-31T14:50:00.000-04:00Anon,I don't agree with you on that point at all, ...Anon,<BR/><BR/>I don't agree with you on that point at all, but I guess we are going to leave it at that.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-25389025631736437342008-05-31T14:03:00.000-04:002008-05-31T14:03:00.000-04:00@anon 12:54--they tape delay the race EVERY year. ...@anon 12:54--they tape delay the race EVERY year. Dover does not have lights. So they record/run the race at 5 and barring major cautions/delays, it's over by about 7:30ish. MRN always airs the race and then SPEED airs it in prime time. Why they don't run it live and then repeat later on, I'm not sure. As I stated on another forum, if it's due to them feeling there wouldn't be enough of a west coast audience, it doesn't make sense due to the other Friday activity. Plus we had Pick 'em Ups quals and there was a practice show a few weeks back that was at 7 AM Pacific.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34561412314970402162008-05-31T13:44:00.000-04:002008-05-31T13:44:00.000-04:00Daly Planet Editor said... Anon 9:04AM,If you thin...Daly Planet Editor said... <BR/>Anon 9:04AM,<BR/><BR/>If you think our well-written and thought out comments without profanity or anger are critical, I would invite you to visit some other message boards and blog sites that talk about NASCAR.<BR/><BR/>Time to thicken that skin up just a little bit my friend.<BR/><BR/>JD<BR/><BR/>May 31, 2008 12:29 PM<BR/><BR/>Yes, the comments are what make this blog....my point was you saying you and the readers are not critical is just wrong,,,yes you are being critical and there is no problem with that....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-1747828915966188602008-05-31T12:54:00.000-04:002008-05-31T12:54:00.000-04:00First post was refused by an error so I apologize ...First post was refused by an error so I apologize for last post.<BR/><BR/>I am appalled that Speed tape-delayed last nights Truck Race. I watched thinking it was live but eventually noticed that it was still sunlight at the track.<BR/><BR/>Totally unacceptable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29568821808394265152008-05-31T12:52:00.000-04:002008-05-31T12:52:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-88357072341965138232008-05-31T12:29:00.000-04:002008-05-31T12:29:00.000-04:00Anon 9:04AM,If you think our well-written and thou...Anon 9:04AM,<BR/><BR/>If you think our well-written and thought out comments without profanity or anger are critical, I would invite you to visit some other message boards and blog sites that talk about NASCAR.<BR/><BR/>Time to thicken that skin up just a little bit my friend.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-41727327357126526662008-05-31T12:11:00.000-04:002008-05-31T12:11:00.000-04:00Thirty years of tv racing and an insipid Gopher is...Thirty years of tv racing and an insipid Gopher is saving the day. Yea, that's it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-45412267582277333032008-05-31T12:03:00.000-04:002008-05-31T12:03:00.000-04:00The ratings are up because we are in a bad economy...The ratings are up because we are in a bad economy and more fans are staying home instead of going to the tracks.<BR/><BR/>It doesn't matter what Digger does or what Junior does. It's the economy that's driving the increase in ratings. <BR/><BR/>Did you see that empty track for the Charlotte Nationwide race? Empty, empty, empty. I've never seen a Charlotte Busch race that empty. Yet the TV ratings for that race were up a substantial amount from last year. <BR/><BR/>It's not rocket science. Fans who can't afford the races are watching on TV and increasing the ratings. It really doesn't matter how good or bad certain elements of the coverage are. If they can't get to the race, they're going to watch it on TV.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-14437260264362268472008-05-31T11:18:00.000-04:002008-05-31T11:18:00.000-04:00I told all my friends to watch the race because of...I told all my friends to watch the race because of this cool gopher that pops in and out of the track.<BR/><BR/>Just kidding, it didn't help ratings.alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12233729764999778397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-77398753562577013372008-05-31T09:05:00.000-04:002008-05-31T09:05:00.000-04:00Never said anyone here or myself was "all knowing....Never said anyone here or myself was "all knowing." That's what we do here, talk about the TV coverage of racing.<BR/><BR/>You really believe that Digger led to an increase in ratings?<BR/><BR/>What new things did the Director do this season on Fox that you have seen?<BR/><BR/>You can Google France's remarks about the failure of the TV last season and the casual fan as well.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48736690344641115102008-05-31T09:04:00.000-04:002008-05-31T09:04:00.000-04:00Daly Planet Editor said... You are missing the poi...Daly Planet Editor said... <BR/>You are missing the point. No one is being critical. <BR/><BR/><BR/>You must be joking!!!! Go back and read the comments from you and the readers after the checkered flag flies...<BR/>If those are not critical comments than I need to load "babblefish" and see what language this is written in!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-81800924632852492492008-05-31T09:00:00.000-04:002008-05-31T09:00:00.000-04:00Why are you all knowing and just discount that may...Why are you all knowing and just discount that maybe digger and the directing has lead to an increase as much as your story line reason?<BR/>There can be more than one theory or explaination for the ratings increase. Funny that most "Fans" hate COT and the flawed notion of "lack of passing" yet TV viewership is up. I must say that it would seem the "storyline" or WWF aspect of Jr, Busch and others would have more effect on the casual fan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-45055019717136017602008-05-31T08:52:00.000-04:002008-05-31T08:52:00.000-04:00You are missing the point. No one is being critica...You are missing the point. No one is being critical. The NASCAR on Fox team does a tremendous job as this blog has said since we started.<BR/><BR/>Digger is embarrassing and the technology existed in the 1980's. Was that Digger's cousin at the Indy 500?<BR/><BR/>You are avoiding the point that the other two NASCAR series on TV show the lead lap cars or trucks race to the line.<BR/><BR/>If you are going to be snide, at least speak to the topic.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29672732191318642312008-05-31T08:49:00.000-04:002008-05-31T08:49:00.000-04:00seems natural the directer would take credit for t...seems natural the directer would take credit for the increase due to the changes he made or type of coverage. The blogger critical of the changes and TV direction would say the increase in ratings is due to something else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-44697091301701832002008-05-31T08:47:00.000-04:002008-05-31T08:47:00.000-04:00The saga of Junior and the emergence of Kyle Busch...The saga of Junior and the emergence of Kyle Busch have driven the ratings.<BR/><BR/>Unlike entertainment TV which lives and dies on the script, acting and production, TV sports is different.<BR/><BR/>A compelling real life storyline is going to keep the fans despite the goofy hype. If you have a different view on the lap issue, perhaps you would like to share it like many other posters?<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11022651190996064662008-05-31T08:31:00.000-04:002008-05-31T08:31:00.000-04:00Digger...No finish-line = ratings increase this ye...Digger...No finish-line = ratings increase this year!!?? correctAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19351793103327676842008-05-31T08:09:00.000-04:002008-05-31T08:09:00.000-04:00Anon 7:31AM,That was the motto for the 2007 season...Anon 7:31AM,<BR/><BR/>That was the motto for the 2007 season which Brian France admitted failed miserably. There were no "casual fans" attracted to the sport and that is why a bunch of us are fired up that Mr. Kempner did not get that message.<BR/><BR/>For the Indy 500, no doubt there were tons of folks who had no clue as they saw Ms. Dixon that other cars were screaming across the finish line. Those are casual fans.<BR/><BR/>Mr. France said 2008 was a return to the harcore fan and old-school racing. That includes Kempner understanding that regardless of who wins, it does not change the loyalty of the NASCAR fans.<BR/><BR/>Those with #20 shirts or #88 hats do not care if Kyle Busch wins. They want to know where Tony or Junior finished and they want to see him do it. <BR/><BR/>This fundamental disconnect on the final lap of some of the biggest NASCAR races of the season by Fox is truly the Achilles Heel of the coverage. <BR/><BR/>There are NO casual fans who want to see Greg Biffle's girlfriend of Carl Edwards mom when those guys win. NASCAR fans want to know where their driver finished after three or four hours of giving Fox their time. It is just not fair.<BR/><BR/>Fox began this practice, it did not happen with ESPN or TNN or TBS in the old days. It does not happen with SPEED in the Truck Series. It rarely happens with ESPN2 this season on the Nationwide side.<BR/><BR/>It will be very interesting to see how TNT approaches this final lap issue, as the Fox producer is also the TNT producer but the director is different. It is the "old school" director from the ESPN NASCAR days. <BR/><BR/>Well, next week will tell the tale, as for today...who knows?<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-15848296617767365152008-05-31T07:31:00.000-04:002008-05-31T07:31:00.000-04:00Anonymous said... anon wrote"Kempner has won many ...Anonymous said... <BR/>anon wrote<BR/>"Kempner has won many emmys, but the dunderheads on here think they know more than the director of the winner of the "live sports event" It sure would be a thank-less job trying to keep the "NASCAR Fan" happy..."<BR/><BR/><BR/>So in your mind, the fact that Kempner has a couple of Emmys endows him with some super power that makes any "NASCAR FAN's" opinion worthless? And wrong????<BR/><BR/>With THAT attitude, you could have a future at FOX.....or maybe you already work there......dolt<BR/><BR/>May 31, 2008 6:52 AM<BR/><BR/>Joe NASCAR needs to understand that the main objective of the networks is to get more of the "casual fans" This is where their increase in numbers has to come from. To try and get and keep the casual fan for a while, the networks need to have digger..wives..girlfriends and other non-harcore racing shots. Casual fan would rather see the wife or mom shot than cars 6-10 crossing the line. Not saying the true fan will like it, but NASCAR is and needs to move past it's "harcore base" to keep it's TV numbers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-17748270696928800172008-05-31T06:52:00.000-04:002008-05-31T06:52:00.000-04:00anon wrote"Kempner has won many emmys, but the dun...anon wrote<BR/>"Kempner has won many emmys, but the dunderheads on here think they know more than the director of the winner of the "live sports event" It sure would be a thank-less job trying to keep the "NASCAR Fan" happy..."<BR/><BR/><BR/>So in your mind, the fact that Kempner has a couple of Emmys endows him with some super power that makes any "NASCAR FAN's" opinion worthless? And wrong????<BR/><BR/>With THAT attitude, you could have a future at FOX.....or maybe you already work there......doltAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-59930501094028112422008-05-31T03:41:00.000-04:002008-05-31T03:41:00.000-04:00ams fan - I believe Joey Logano's sponsor for the...<B>ams fan - </B> I believe Joey Logano's sponsor for the race is "Game Stop" ... Since DW is not a gamer, it's very possible that he didn't know who/what Game Stop is ... And, there are some 18yos as well as NASCAR drivers that don't play the video racing games ... Tony & Kasey don't play the NASCAR racing video games ... But, it was a good way to show the difference between "old school" and "new school" racing & drivers ...<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Chris Long is the one who decided to turn the Trackside stage around to have the hosts/guests' back to the crowd ... As Erik Arneson used to tell people on the Speedtv.com boards, it was to give the home viewer the feeling of being at the track ... <BR/><BR/>The crowd noise is high because there is a boom mic on a crane that moves over the crowd ... just like the camera ... The change in the headset/mic combo for the guests & hosts has improved the sound quality, but the crowd noise is still bothersome ...<BR/><BR/>Dover is the only Truck race that's tape delayed ... <BR/><BR/><BR/>The racetrack at Dover is NOT owned by the same company that owns the casino ... <BR/><BR/>And, according to Bloomberg, the largest holder of common stock in Dover Motorsports thinks that the company should be sold to take advantage of the premiums being paid for tracks that host events in NASCAR's top series ... This is because of the recent sales of Kentucky & NHIS ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-79961488266437919922008-05-30T23:50:00.000-04:002008-05-30T23:50:00.000-04:00Thanks JDI have noticed some smaller advertisers n...Thanks JD<BR/>I have noticed some smaller advertisers not being talked about, I didn't think to much of it. It seems like the Pole award would be different. But,maybe not.<BR/>*That was some wild TV on Trackside as some previously said. Excellent TV "Are you a computer geek?". It don't get no better than that. At least the young man respectfully went right back "I got Game Source on my shirt". <BR/>At least DW is good for the heart. No blood pressure problems there. When you can go on a national tv show, laugh that much, even at yourself, life has got to be pretty good. Good or bad tv- left or right handed- in the eyes of the viewer. <BR/>I'm getting used to the men in suits and ties, but I'm still more comfortable watching people without the ties. Who wears a tie driving a race car? <BR/>IMHO- pretty good showGlennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10695831353283754366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-2980516860365081412008-05-30T23:28:00.000-04:002008-05-30T23:28:00.000-04:00ams fan,Just because NASCAR has a sponsor paying t...ams fan,<BR/><BR/>Just because NASCAR has a sponsor paying them money does not mean that the ABC/ESPN/TNT/FOX Sales Departments are getting paid.<BR/><BR/>In the future, which is what Ken was talking about, keep track of what elements of the race at the track do not make it to TV.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes, it is actually the title sponsor of the race. At the track, it could be one sponsor and on TV another one completely different. <BR/><BR/>Sometimes, it will be the title sponsors shown on the walls of the track or other places. <BR/><BR/>Sometimes, as Ken mentioned, it will be very important sponsors to the sport that the TV crew somehow "chooses" to ignore because that sponsor did not buy TV advertising time on the network broadcast.<BR/><BR/>What many people believe is that some networks extend that "branding" of products and companies that bought TV ads to coverage of the cars on the track. <BR/><BR/>That argument will rage-on forever, because the network will never admit it and the fans can never prove it. <BR/><BR/>If you pay attention to just how many NASCAR race and contingency sponsors do not make it from the track to the small screen it will amaze you.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.com