tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post6544955828993350905..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: NASCAR Marketing MayhemDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11623574810638244372012-09-19T16:57:31.359-04:002012-09-19T16:57:31.359-04:00Oh NASCAR, how far you have fallen. And the driver...Oh NASCAR, how far you have fallen. And the drivers and teams are right there with them. It's all about making more money than God. Period.<br /><br />The best racing is no longer at the top. Far from it.AllisonJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-91772528411902470322012-09-15T13:20:07.189-04:002012-09-15T13:20:07.189-04:00Since you don't have a News & Notes post t...Since you don't have a News & Notes post today, I'll comment right here. Pretty interesting day today.<br /><br />The Nationwide race this afternoon will have an exciting race to the parking lot with over 10 cars parking.<br /><br />The Truck race is a stand alone event at Iowa with many fresh faces and will be fun to watch (and only 3 should be parking in that race)<br /><br />Bob Jenkins will call his final race on television tonight on NBC Sports Net covering the IndyCar finale.<br /><br />The modifieds will be at Riverhead tonight making up for the rainout over the summer. Because of this I will probably miss watching most of the above on tv. But I will be here on Sunday.Buschseries61noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-21945352036276684152012-09-15T10:39:51.025-04:002012-09-15T10:39:51.025-04:00To quote and support what Anonymous 12:22PM said, ...To quote and support what Anonymous 12:22PM said, "I consider myself a serious fan that is being alienated by NASCAR business/PR strategy, poor quality TV broadcasts, and a general whiny attitude by millionaires. I also despise the chase. I'm not sure how much longer I am going to stick with this. The sport as a whole is moving in the wrong direction in my view".<br /> <br />I railed at the beginning of the season during the pre-season press tour that the NASCAR “media” were nothing but stenographers for the teams and especially the sanction. Oh once in a while the press will collectively criticize a driver or team for whatever the controversy du jour is but much like the current White House Press Corps, the NASCAR media finds no fault with the sanction. All is well in NASCARville. “Don’t look at all the empty seats. Look at all the great advertising banner’s covering them up”. <br /><br />They’ve turned themselves into a collection of bloggers, all regurgitating the same story line. There are serious issues with this sport that many long time fans have come out against. But we only have our own voices on social media. David Poole is gone and even Ed Hinton has been NASCARstrated. I know that Speed, Fox, ESPN/ABC are all “broadcast partners” with the sanction, therefore no honest critique or criticism of the sport at large or the sanction will come from those outlets and contrary to what Jeff Burton says, the touring beat writers are the biggest pom-pom waiving, band wagon riding, collection of sycophants the drivers, teams and especially the sanction could ever have. They are either on board and believe in the crap this sport has become or they are spineless, gutless jelly fish afraid of having their credentials pulled.<br /><br />Fans used to discuss and read about racing, team vs. team, Ford vs. Chevy, etc. Now it’s all about babies, wives, girlfriends, family, grooming habits and bogus championships.<br />Bucky Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01514519230957576700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56621510783015172162012-09-14T21:55:10.606-04:002012-09-14T21:55:10.606-04:00all of you have certainly covered the same issues ...all of you have certainly covered the same issues that come to mind for me when I read JD's columns. Honestly the thought police are alive and well and promoting NASCAR.<br /><br />They've also almost killed off any real interest I have in the sport. Since I'm a Jeff Gordon fan, I'll more than likely continue to watch until he retires, but it certainly isn't "fun" like it was before the chase, the really silly hype that they are doing now (I didn't watch any of the programming since it's so obviously fake).<br /><br />rumors that Jr's girlfriend has said - make me an honest woman or lose me forever? Sheesh who cares?<br />Denny throwing wild parties and won't invite JPM or Gordon? Why would he think they'd come if he invited them? And again, who cares?<br /><br />Jeff's reinventing his stache? Well, that I actually thought was funny - mainly because his wife tweeted that it was going to happen immediately after Richmond. Then again, I'm a JG fan, so I'm biased.<br /><br />As Colorado said, I read 1984 in high school as well and it certainly applies here. I'm not really sure how it is that NASCAR has become so disconnected from its fan base that they really think this is the right way to go.<br /><br />GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61636123865679961722012-09-14T14:41:36.566-04:002012-09-14T14:41:36.566-04:00When will NASCAR ever learn?
When will NASCAR act...When will NASCAR ever learn?<br /><br />When will NASCAR actually give what the actual hardcore fan what they want, which is real racing not a follow the leader parade?<br /><br />When will NASCAR realize that fans dont want the chase they want the old system back because it was, although flawed, an honest system?<br /><br />Are the people in NASCAR even aware of what the fans actually want to see JD?<br /><br />NASCAR can not possibly think the fans are nothing to them? If so, they are screwed<br /><br />When will NASCAR ever go back to basics?saltsburgtrojanfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48898931180919196172012-09-14T12:21:00.983-04:002012-09-14T12:21:00.983-04:00I agree JD, about NASCAR curtailing rumors... In 2...I agree JD, about NASCAR curtailing rumors... In 2002, on Jayski, I knew about Toyota 4 years before it was official... Now, you read Jayski, and you find out the same thing at the same time as the Drivers, etc... Well, they know more, but are suppressed in commenting. I miss my sibling working on NASCAR teams... I would find out alot more than NASCAR would EVER want to let out...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-78492902107504505902012-09-14T11:42:18.893-04:002012-09-14T11:42:18.893-04:00RPM:I'm pretty sure their doing all of the rem...RPM:I'm pretty sure their doing all of the remaining races.They done the Daytona 500,then took the long break.They announced then that they would return for the 10 chase races,so unless something's changed,they will back for the rest of the season.Jakehttp://twitter.com/JakeL42noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-55436709326799077512012-09-14T10:37:26.925-04:002012-09-14T10:37:26.925-04:00A few years ago I watched almost all the 3 series ...A few years ago I watched almost all the 3 series of racing and some of the "news" shows. Now, I tape things and half the time either watch the last 10 laps, or don't even watch. I just check in on the timing and scoring.<br /><br />I enjoy Supercross and Motocross and at least there TPTB don't seem to demand a lockstep message for all. I'm not getting manufactured messages and prepackaged drivers shoved down my throat.dianenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53352456505137448922012-09-14T08:53:56.734-04:002012-09-14T08:53:56.734-04:00That piece on Dale Jr. reading a letter to hisself...That piece on Dale Jr. reading a letter to hisself at 16 was pure na$car marketing gold. God I love the "playoffs".tominmnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06580160887111839964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-82300653964469552512012-09-14T08:40:23.185-04:002012-09-14T08:40:23.185-04:00Controling the uncontrolable, I always thought tha...Controling the uncontrolable, I always thought that was the attraction to racing in the first place. I find the comments above sounding like the fans are not so dumb as the marketing folks assume. The marketing became more important than the racing and the control was applied gently usually to "keep the sport growing", the direction of the sport has changed from the wild and unpredictable, to the controled and boring. At times it is like watching a giant reality show, only the contestants have been so vetted the that the only thing that matters is following the script. Jayski was an informed and usually reliable source back when it was a game to find information, with all the blogs, sites and control Nascar has stiffled almost all of the media, very few have the nerve of a Mike Mulhern, he actually thinks out loud, not always perfect, but he certainly adds something to the party. JD, you have gotten your share of the cold shoulder of NASCAR, but the core group is sure getting smaller.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00077528082787084016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-14799016509925974592012-09-14T02:08:13.469-04:002012-09-14T02:08:13.469-04:00FYI Daly Planet Editor: Showtime has resurrected I...FYI Daly Planet Editor: Showtime has resurrected Inside NASCAR for at least 2 weeks according to my DirecTv guide.Is it up for the whole Chase?RPMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04294406748353031441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-36664177685422432102012-09-13T22:48:22.746-04:002012-09-13T22:48:22.746-04:00In the past few years our money has gone to the di...In the past few years our money has gone to the dirt track sene. When was the last time the World of Outlaws or the Lucas oil dirt late model series fined one of there top drivers for being outspoken!? These guys are RACErS and they actually race and don't complain about being raced to hard too early in the night if guys like Terry Phillips or Scott Bloomquist, jimmy Owens ect don't "race" and not make the A-main they take a HuGe it in the pocket book unlike the multi millionaires who no matter what they are locked into Sundays and if they blow up on the first lap they still fly home in their jet to their huge homes . Screw NASCAR... Go to the show-me 100 in Wheatland, mo or Knoxville or Eldora ect. Dirt racing is STILL RACING.... Thank God!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-14132467259770082872012-09-13T22:17:06.822-04:002012-09-13T22:17:06.822-04:00The sad part is that I studied IMC in school and w...The sad part is that I studied IMC in school and what NASCAR is doing has absolutely nothing to do with messaging or anything. Just another in a long line of failures. So glad football has returned.Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-434336011958677832012-09-13T21:24:32.339-04:002012-09-13T21:24:32.339-04:00If any of you didn't read Anonymous 12:22 abov...If any of you didn't read Anonymous 12:22 above because it was a long post, get back up there and read it...post of the year type material.<br /><br />I just wonder...if this is how far NASCAR is going to go to control the message, what type of attacks are going to come at disgruntled fans in 2013 after what got thrown at us this year?KoHoSohttp://kohoso.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-91607835866616767752012-09-13T17:49:25.110-04:002012-09-13T17:49:25.110-04:00"The media is the enemy" is classic righ..."The media is the enemy" is classic rightwing politics being applied to NASCAR, which is nauseating. I realize I'm a liberal watching a largely conservative sport, but that was ok as long as we could all focus on the racing. If this "We're great, and if the media says any different, we're victims" crap keeps up..I'm outta here. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10228751291651549631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-79697369175600551362012-09-13T16:58:45.304-04:002012-09-13T16:58:45.304-04:00Isn't it interesting that a sport that attract...Isn't it interesting that a sport that attracted fans and viewers in the first place because of it's 'rough and ready, shade tree mechanics' is now trying to sell itself as a squeaky clean white collar 'sport'? It's become more important for a driver to be a 'good corporate spokesman' than to be a good driver. Nascar's rules changes have made computers and engineers and expensive equipment more important than being an instinctual mechanical 'genius'. Apparently it's more important to Brian France to project the correct image than to keep racing honest. This pre packaged, sanitized version of Nascar is doomed to consume itself.Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03233133246348697023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-22719113245745989012012-09-13T16:42:03.473-04:002012-09-13T16:42:03.473-04:00Jayski's site content is getting scooped by Tw...Jayski's site content is getting scooped by Twitter. When something newsworthy happens in the sport, it appears on Twitter in seconds. Jay takes the time to vet the source. And by the time he is able to post the item to his site it's "old news". <br /><br />As for controlling the stories, let's not forget major college football coaches (Meyer, Spurrier, Kiffin, that jerk at OK State, etc.) who have resorted to banning beat writers for being too critical (or factual). The NFL and NBA are pretty good at these media-bullying tactics, too. Therefore, I think NASCAR is just trying to emulate the more popular sports.<br /><br />That said, BZF and Tony George are brothers from different mothers given how they have systematically degraded two of America's top motor sports leagues.JTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-7705415911513438752012-09-13T16:38:37.400-04:002012-09-13T16:38:37.400-04:00All i can say is this just makes me bleed frustrat...All i can say is this just makes me bleed frustration even more.Controlling the news.Sounds a lot like what goes on with our government.<br /><br />JakeL42(I will no longer sign my comments with Coffeeshop42 anymore)Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16914539371457499662012-09-13T15:44:35.637-04:002012-09-13T15:44:35.637-04:00Jayski had a nice thing going there for a while. T...Jayski had a nice thing going there for a while. The guy built himself a nice business from the ground up, but he's at the point where you can only go so far copying and pasting news releases and links. Paint scheme news...ooooh, compelling! (Not.) If I ever lose my real job I'm going to buy a couple cameras and start stalking Mooresville like I'm Harvey Levin at TMZ. NASCAR has created a news vacuum that has choked the passion out of the sport. Someone brave enough to go all paparazzi on the sport might have lightning in a bottle. And I don't wanna hear how people "just wanna see racing". People can't turn away from a trainwreck. Harvick shoving chicken wings in his face, Krissy Newman out by the pool, dirt on Juniors' potential in laws. Seriously. Gold mine. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35943681161587371122012-09-13T15:39:03.326-04:002012-09-13T15:39:03.326-04:00@Anon 10:44 a.m.
If I have to buy tickets to race...@Anon 10:44 a.m.<br /><br />If I have to buy tickets to races I do not want to watch or the dreaded season pass,<br /> - thats price gouging. Period.<br /><br />Thats the way it was at many tracks before we quit attending races. Maybe they have wised up in 5 yrs. time.<br /><br />As for your "adding value" - if I want to see a concert I go if I want a race I go. : )<br /> Better a lower ticket price at either than a combo I may not want. And if you have never been gouged at the track, you must never have eaten there either.<br />Or bought water.Jojhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17003121615505036490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-92150569996557245112012-09-13T14:35:38.026-04:002012-09-13T14:35:38.026-04:00Clarification: In mentioning Jayski, I was not sug...Clarification: In mentioning Jayski, I was not suggesting that his access to media was curtailed or that he is being told what to do by ESPN.<br /><br />On the contrary, the reason there are fewer and fewer "rumors" posted on the Jayski site is because NASCAR and the major teams are all working to control the marketing of every aspect of the sport.<br /><br />There simply is no information available to report. These drivers, crew chiefs and team members are not speaking out or even slipping information to the media. <br /><br />The total control of NASCAR by the sanctioning body's marketing arm has resulted in this sanitized and obviously planned campaign of information that ultimately makes the drivers and teams look like cartoon characters. <br /><br />It should be interesting to see just how long this squeaky-clean marketing of a sport that used to embrace exactly the opposite image can or will continue.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-55281169176057228902012-09-13T13:57:51.061-04:002012-09-13T13:57:51.061-04:00If I see one more tweet about Jeff's stache, I...If I see one more tweet about Jeff's stache, I' start hurling. The only thing worse will be actually seeing it. Do you really think any of us give a d***?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-49342658055574067212012-09-13T13:51:40.943-04:002012-09-13T13:51:40.943-04:00I remember when i got into NASCAR in 2004, I read ...I remember when i got into NASCAR in 2004, I read Jayski religiously! Loved it. Then he got bought by ESPN or whatever. Said he wasn't a sell out but clearly is being controlled what he can say.<br /><br />I miss his old site and rarely, if EVER venture to the current one.<br /><br />I heard Denny on Dan Patrick show talking about wild parties...when asked who he would NOT invite said "Juan Pablo Montoya" . . . because "I can't understand a word he says."<br /><br />And when Dan asked how about Jeff Gordon, Denny said "Too old." I hope he's kidding but who knows. I also thought he said he's expecting a baby...Sheesh...I remember when most race car drivers got married first, or I am just old fashioned.<br /><br />The more NASCAR tries to control the sport and the Emperor is wearing no clothes mentality, the more it makes me sad.<br /><br />And mad.<br /><br />Thus I rarely watch. I don't even watch the truck races much because I don't remember they are on!Sophiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789033556426951026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-68114009735019493912012-09-13T13:15:17.164-04:002012-09-13T13:15:17.164-04:00I'm not sure what Jeff Burton meant by the med...I'm not sure what Jeff Burton meant by the media promoting the negative, but I do know that the media could have dug a lot deeper than they did regarding the rules violations coming from the RCR shops. The media could have been also dialed back on the Dillon brothers love fest.<br /><br />Jeff should be thankful for how the media is handling some delicate situations this year.Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80733714756640656022012-09-13T13:05:56.041-04:002012-09-13T13:05:56.041-04:00Busch61,
Agreed completely. This reminds me of th...Busch61,<br /><br />Agreed completely. This reminds me of the way that the "boy bands" were marketed years ago. One is the rebel, one is the heart throb, there's a "quiet one," etc. <br /><br />And Jeff Burton's comments aren't really surprising. Dale Jarrett made a similar statement many years ago, as did the late Benny Parsons, implying that if the media tells fans everything is great, they'll believe so. At the top levels of NASCAR, even our purest racers have the heart of a businessman.Tim S.noreply@blogger.com