tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post7001500047717969760..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Top Two Executives At SPEED Step AsideDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35385251249499721312011-12-14T21:00:34.554-05:002011-12-14T21:00:34.554-05:00bowlalpo,
SPEED is owned by FOX. NMG is owned by...bowlalpo, <br /><br />SPEED is owned by FOX. NMG is owned by NASCAR. Currently, NMG has a big contract to produce the shows from the tracks on weekends for SPEED.<br /><br />From RaceDay to Victory Lane and all the practice and qaulifying, NMG gets paid.<br /><br />While we might see a clear need for additional NASCAR "support programming" during the Monday through Thursday time frame, SPEED only gave us "RaceHub" over the past two years.<br /><br />SPEED has cancelled every single well-produced and inventive NASCAR TV series brought to them by NMG. The list is long and NMG has nowhere else to go.<br /><br />If SPEED does not wake up and smell the coffee pretty soon, NMG may be producing the shows from the track for a stand-alone NASCAR Network and SPEED will be wondering what the heck happened.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-39956227216822596152011-12-14T19:40:12.510-05:002011-12-14T19:40:12.510-05:00For those who miss the old Speedvision, check out ...For those who miss the old Speedvision, check out Velocity Network<br />It is awesomeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-33947959054306662472011-12-14T13:48:52.930-05:002011-12-14T13:48:52.930-05:00JD, I saw that NMG produced the "SEC Storied&...JD, I saw that NMG produced the "SEC Storied" show on ESPN's family about the 1992 SEC Championship (I was shocked to see this in the show's opening).<br /><br />I DVR'd a later airing after watching the last 20 minutes by accident. It was so good, I wouldn't mind NMG doing other documentaries, regardless of the sport being covered. Yes, "The Play That Changed College Football" was excellent, but then again, so were NBS 24/7 and Behind The Wheel, etc.<br /><br />Why can't NMG be the NFL Films of racing instead of the NFL Films of the Southeastern Conference? Is it only because SPEED will not give shows like this the time of day and instead give airtime to profane imbeciles like Adam Corolla?<br /><br />The CBS Sports network runs the same talking-heads shows 20-30 times in a week, and I'll bet that the new Versus will choose/be forced to do the same. Any chance that NMG productions ABOUT RACING could get a foothold there?bowlalpohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361020298223178407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-21279556991786871532011-12-14T07:04:39.569-05:002011-12-14T07:04:39.569-05:00I understand all of that DP. What I am saying is ...I understand all of that DP. What I am saying is that the reality is it is not worthwhile for SPEED to show more NASCAR content when they can make more money with cheesy "lifestyle" programming that appeals to people 35 and younger. I'm 39 and rarely watch SPEED except for Wind Tunnel and Speed Center. Why do you think ESPN shows NFL highlights 24/7 ? It is because that is what the majority of sports fans want to see. Heck, once NFL season begins, MLB even takes a backseat to the NFL. <br /><br />Look at how the NASCAR HOF and NASCAR tower has bombed. <br /><br />And I'll say this: I would be VERY surprised to see the truck series still around after 2014 or 2015 at the latest. Brian/Bill France Jr. have literally ran NASCAR into the ground by abandoning the tracks that made the sport. I have always been of the opinion that there is no reason why we should be going to the same track twice per year except Daytona. <br /><br />Brian France would never admit it, but his constant tinkering with the points system may have gained a short term boost in ratings, but it is at the expense of the series' legitimacy. <br /><br />Rant = offAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-85271122730143215152011-12-13T20:33:06.044-05:002011-12-13T20:33:06.044-05:00Anon 8:08PM,
NASCAR does not get paid for TV rati...Anon 8:08PM,<br /><br />NASCAR does not get paid for TV ratings. <br /><br />The NASCAR TV partners paid rights fees directly to NASCAR for an eight year contract.<br /><br />None of those fees depend on ratings. <br /><br />The sanctioning body has a fixed amount of revenue from TV that is at the heart of this issue.<br /><br />An active partnership with NASCAR and FOX Cable Networks will allow a new approach that can echo the 24 hour cable nets now operating for the other major pro sports.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-81990584652265771562011-12-13T20:27:07.492-05:002011-12-13T20:27:07.492-05:00Well I think Race Hub is a much better broadcast t...Well I think Race Hub is a much better broadcast than Pinks, Pass Time, or whatever reality tv show they telecast. With these changes I wonder if during the racing season we'll see better Nascar shows. Oh well, guess we don't have any say in the matter!Vicky Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13084198036514255332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-30533868749790816452011-12-13T20:08:03.750-05:002011-12-13T20:08:03.750-05:00Well said Anon. Just look at what channels have t...Well said Anon. Just look at what channels have to pay the NFL to show highlights. It's an insane amount of money! NASCAR only has 36 races per year (not enough "games") to compete. The NFL has teams that have sold out games for decades. Heck, the Broncos have sold out their home games for over 40 years. <br /><br />We all love NASCAR, but we are just going to have to be happy with what we have. Some of the races only had 50% capacity in the stands (contrary to what NASCAR will admit to). <br /><br />No one here likes SPEED's format these days, but they are in business to make money. And having a partnership with NASCAR would be a money-losing proposition since NASCAR no longer gets the ratings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47353488992762973202011-12-13T20:06:19.599-05:002011-12-13T20:06:19.599-05:00Anon, that argument just does not hold water.
Non...Anon, that argument just does not hold water.<br /><br />None of the current pro sports cable nets was built to feature high-profile events.<br /><br />The idea was to use the revenue from events on other broadcast, cable and regional networks as the foundation for operating.<br /><br />The same would be true with a NASCAR network. My feeling is that expanding the type of offerings we see now on SPEED from the tracks Friday through Sunday would be the first step.<br /><br />Other than perhaps the trucks, there would be no need to have any Cup or NNS events on a NASCAR TV network.<br /><br />The idea is to define dayparts, a task that SPEED was unable to do as it was formed on a regional cable network model by Mr. Nickell.<br /><br />SPEED runs infomercials in the AM and throws away the morning daypart as worthless. Nothing could be further from the truth.<br /><br />Simply engaging the NASCAR fan and then welcoming in fans of other motorsports would create a synergy no other nework could capture.<br /><br />The model worked and that is why SPEED was moved to Charlotte. It was NASCAR that blinked and allowed the deal to fall through.<br /><br />It time to make it work or walk away and go back to LA.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-31299232085425853262011-12-13T19:30:00.029-05:002011-12-13T19:30:00.029-05:00Daly Planet Editor,
I am absolutely not oblivious...Daly Planet Editor,<br /><br />I am absolutely not oblivious to the fact that the other major sports leagues are basically 24/7 covering their own sport with their own cable networks. <br /><br />However, a significant difference is that NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL all air actual LIVE telecasts of their games. Those telecasts draw ratings that are significantly high enough to support the measly non-ratings that they get on the other days that they do not air live games, those days when they rehash everything to death, and when they re-air games, coaches shows, etc. <br /><br />Take the NFL Network. Outside of its pre and post game coverage, the Thursday night games in Nov/Dec, and the Draft in April, they do not draw ratings. <br /><br />Now, looking at Speed, they do not have the Cup nor Nationwide Series. So they don't have the "NFL game" caliber ratings to offset obscure racing coverage ratings. <br /><br />So your comparison of Speed to NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL doesn't hold. <br /><br />If Nascar started its own network, or joined Speed in a network, and put top-tier racing on the network on F, Sa and Su, then yes, M-TH they can put on your dad or your mom's backyard racing league in primetime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-41434619202787070022011-12-13T18:22:18.701-05:002011-12-13T18:22:18.701-05:00"The frustration comes because most feel like..."The frustration comes because most feel like we have been given the old bait-and-switch on content and are tired of every single channel programming to the 18-35 year old male demographic while those of us now beyond that age are not ready to start watching nothing but Matlock."<br /><br />Thank you. It's really sad that productive television is being replaced by the downward elevator of stupidity to chase profit. Rather than develop a passion for something productive, our demographic is presented with scripted arguments, physical violence, freak shows, and cheap laughs. SPEED's highlight 'Dumbest Stuff on Wheels' features human stupidity and injuries - but it makes a profit. Meanwhile, the men and women that do this the correct way for a living are ignored Monday-Thursday except for taped Monster Truck shows. <br /><br />This is just a downward spiral for motorsports. Teams need funding to run, sponsors want eyeballs and cameras when paying out money, and television (the link in all this) is chasing the next stupid act to introduce to viewers. There is no room to grow in this cycle.Buschseries61noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-90234857111357291222011-12-13T18:03:41.346-05:002011-12-13T18:03:41.346-05:00Anon, when you have NMG with no cash flow doing co...Anon, when you have NMG with no cash flow doing college football and SPEED struggling to fill four days of content, I don't think the correct resolution is hard to figure out. Partnership.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57992731694683954612011-12-13T17:40:58.273-05:002011-12-13T17:40:58.273-05:00Mr Editor -
Time indeed to 'dump the junk'...Mr Editor -<br />Time indeed to 'dump the junk' and call O'Hare Towing' to drag SPEED off to the scrap yard ...sadly, it appears the addition of Patti Wheeler was not made with the intention of making positive changes ...ergo, she has bow left ...in retrospect, David Hill continues to wallow in ESPN envy - all hat and no cattle ...I'm looking forward to what comes of NBC Sports/Versus and Velocity (which I haven't seen yet on DirecTV) with regard to NASCAR programming ...for gosh sakes, even WWE has iy's own channel ...interesting that CBS picked up the Chili Bowl, even as a delayed broadcast ...I was fortunate to be there for the 1st running of this great event ...nothing to warm a cold Oklahoma night like a noisy and packed Tulsa (Fairgrounds) Expo Center and hot, hot, hot sprint car racing<br />Walterw17scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587322614416999020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53329063205548228722011-12-13T17:30:32.219-05:002011-12-13T17:30:32.219-05:00JD,
You are missing the point too.
NBA, NHL, MLB...JD,<br /><br />You are missing the point too.<br /><br />NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL all have their own networks because they own the content and broadcast events. I would venture to say that if the leagues charged themselves for the content, they wouldn't make any money and would have to rely on viewing generating content like speed has during the weekdays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29082228729944737482011-12-13T17:13:51.548-05:002011-12-13T17:13:51.548-05:00Anon 4:36PM,
You are apparently oblivious to the ...Anon 4:36PM,<br /><br />You are apparently oblivious to the fact that the NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL all have fulltime dedicated cable TV networks serving their fan bases.<br /><br />The question is not whether to schedule other forms of racing. The entire reason SPEED moved to Charlotte, NC where no other national cable sports TV network is based was to become the NASCAR TV network.<br /><br />Over and over again failure to recognize this brand and the partnerships that can be formed have put SPEED in an awkward position.<br /><br />Only by embracing NASCAR as the programming "umbrella" and then moving to allow other motorsports to be show within that framework will the network finally get it right.<br /><br />It's time to dump the junk and get real about motorsports on TV.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23178487419416269512011-12-13T17:03:13.179-05:002011-12-13T17:03:13.179-05:00Anonymous 4:36...
You make excellent points. Man...Anonymous 4:36...<br /><br />You make excellent points. Many here including myself have said similar things when it comes to what we would all like to see balanced out against a company's right and <i>need</i> to be as profitable as possible.<br /><br />The frustration comes because most feel like we have been given the old bait-and-switch on content and are tired of every single channel programming to the 18-35 year old male demographic while those of us now beyond that age are not ready to start watching nothing but Matlock.<br /><br />After all, look at what has happened in the cable/satellite landscape. We used to have a music channel that played music, a history channel that ran history, an arts channel that featured arts, a learning channel where one could learn something, and a racing channel that showed racing. Almost all of that is gone now and has been replaced mostly with pseudo-reality programming that is not real and, in many cases, features the worst sides of humanity.<br /><br />Still, you are right. Some race at a local short track won't pull in the same rating -- or, more correctly, the same rating from the key demographic -- as some show like Speed runs now. I just wonder how much more channels can keep slicing up the same finite pie as the rest of us lose interest and even "cut the cord" -- not to mention how much longer NASCAR can afford to "go black" for three months with no support from Speed and no care from ESPN.KoHoSohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457687879505057220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-55200511320374321992011-12-13T16:36:50.019-05:002011-12-13T16:36:50.019-05:00It is commendable that most people on this site --...It is commendable that most people on this site -- it is a NASCAR & motor racing site after all -- are passionate about racing and having the sport shown on a cable network every day/night of the week.<br /><br />Now, let's get real with the economics here: Outside of the NASCAR races themselves, and a few practice and qualifying sessions, F1, and maybe Supercross and Grand AM, racing does not get enough eyeballs on television. It's that simple.<br /><br />God bless you for wanting obscure racing on television, but they do not rate!<br /><br />Which is why outside of Fri-Sat-Sun, you have to develop reality type series. Most fail. But some do break through, like Pinks, Wrecked, Dumbest Stuff, etc. These shows get ratings, and much bigger ratings than the obscure races you all are talking about.<br /> <br />So get with the program, and understand that Speed is in the business of getting ratings=profits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5629352855090758882011-12-13T14:05:35.530-05:002011-12-13T14:05:35.530-05:00It's pretty simple what SPEED should do - add ...It's pretty simple what SPEED should do - add racing programming to the Monday-Thursday lineup. There are plenty of other racing series other than NASCAR that could be showcased and get better ratings than the garbage that's on there now.<br /><br />Take a page from the old TNN and old ESPN playbook. Show a variety of racing that generates interest in other forms of racing. Have each night be a theme for a particular brand of racing. Have one night be nothing but dirt racing (sprint cars, late models, big block modifieds), have another night of racing showcasing future stars of racing, have a Thursday Night Thunder type program showing live racing in other forms of racing.<br /><br />I never watch SPEED from Monday through Thursday unless there is a truck race on one of those nights. As long as the "reality" shows continue, I will continue not to watch.MRM4https://www.blogger.com/profile/04045747192945960087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29249799054846779682011-12-13T13:25:47.854-05:002011-12-13T13:25:47.854-05:00Other than RaceHub, I don't watch any programm...Other than RaceHub, I don't watch any programming on Speed. I'm with Brandon, dump the reality garbage and show me racing and I'll turn the channel back on.<br /><br />Having another LA based exec who is a "friend of" the new guy running things doesn't make me think that will happen any time soon.<br /><br />Plus even the NASCAR based shows have become less must see TV for me. I'm not interested in shows like trackpass as much because it has become too much about the people who are moderating (an overabundance of Waltrips) and less about the guests or content.<br /><br />Like NASCAR, IMO, Speed needs to get back to the basics - show the fans racing - all forms - and see if they can rebuild their core audience.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34201805729150725362011-12-13T13:05:38.307-05:002011-12-13T13:05:38.307-05:00Anon, to say ratings for "Dumbest Stuff"...Anon, to say ratings for "Dumbest Stuff" are off the charts is incorrect.<br /><br />The ratings for the intial airing of those episodes were higher than what SPEED saw when re-airing other post-produced product.<br /><br />The decision is whether SPEED is in or out with motorsports on the Monday through Thursday timeblock and can they develop daypart programming like the other major cable networks.<br /><br />JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57795377841182478712011-12-13T11:56:39.669-05:002011-12-13T11:56:39.669-05:00If they go back toward the Speed Vision model that...If they go back toward the Speed Vision model that would be great. Real racing, real behind the scenes shows, real news.nannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-37749184112740672332011-12-13T11:46:58.181-05:002011-12-13T11:46:58.181-05:00some of those reality/lifestyle shows help keep th...some of those reality/lifestyle shows help keep the network in business. the ratings for "dumbest stuff" are off the charts.<br /><br />would love to see a couple more racing/nascar shows from nmg or elsewhere, but in the past those shows simple just don't rate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-52817768072747148982011-12-13T11:46:31.023-05:002011-12-13T11:46:31.023-05:00With Patty Wheeler stepping away and the West Coas...With Patty Wheeler stepping away and the West Coast pulling the strings, I hope I'm wrong, I don't see SPEED adding any Nascar relevant programming. I don't see the West Coast being that keen on Nascar as it is.<br />With as many different forms of racing that there is, there's more than enough for a channel called "SPEED" to cover. They just don't do it. They've lost their way with Nascar programming.<br />Only plus for me is 1 less tier on my Time Warner bill.Mulehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01787057678322863151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-2015464993659746512011-12-13T11:40:57.811-05:002011-12-13T11:40:57.811-05:00I used to watch Court TV on a regular basis. I di...I used to watch Court TV on a regular basis. I did not watch the live/taped courtroom activities but liked the programs that dealt with broader issues or overviews of significant cases. When I heard that Catherine Crier was being fired and Star Jones was being hired, I knew that Court TV was moving away from my interests. That was at the same time they announced the name change to Tru TV. I haven't watched it since then.<br /><br />I wish someone at Fox would have the decency to change the name of Speed channel to something that fits its programming. As long as it bears the Speed name and its heritage, people like me will keep wishing for the good old days of motorsports programming. They should change the name of Speed as someone did to Court TV, and it would make it easier to say good bye and stop hoping for a return to the past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-90543661211820582752011-12-13T10:58:32.639-05:002011-12-13T10:58:32.639-05:00It's gotten so bad at NMG that company has act...<b><i>It's gotten so bad at NMG that company has actually been producing college football content in order to generate some revenue.</i></b><br /><br />That's the line that really struck me in the article. NMG has shown great potential in what it can turn out. What a shame that Fox won't use them more and that NASCAR won't work harder to find an outlet that <i>will</i> show thei work...unless there's something in the works with Velocity that we don't know about yet.KoHoSohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457687879505057220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-24573470135197661242011-12-13T10:44:02.791-05:002011-12-13T10:44:02.791-05:00It’s a sad story I grew up watching. SpeedVision c...It’s a sad story I grew up watching. SpeedVision came around when I was just entering my teens. It had cars, boats, planes, and motorcycles – really fun programming. Then things got even better with Speed Channel. NASCAR had a bigger presence, and I loved watching shows like Back in the Day, Inside Winston Cup & NBS 24/7. Although not on Speed, Totally NASCAR was a fixture in my life. I remember watching the World Rally races with fascination weekend mornings, as well as ARCA, ASA & Hooters Pro Cup events at tracks I’d never seen before in NASCAR. I remember Grumpy Dave’s Motorcycle Tuesday nights I sometimes watched. <br /><br />SPEED began to jump the shark in 2005 when Totally NASCAR moved to SPEED and was canceled for the failure NASCAR Nation. Allen Bestwick and Johnny Benson were fired from Inside Nextel Cup. ASA, Hooters Pro Cup, & other divisions disappeared. TWIN collapsed and was canned. SPEED only shows ten ARCA races a year now. There were some great additions like NASCAR Confidential and Pit Bull, but those were quickly canned for NASCAR Smarts and The Racing Chef. Now the same reality garbage that can be found across the other channels pollutes SPEED’s weekday programming. All grown up, the current SPEED is nothing like the original SpeedVision that started it all for me. But I’m afraid it won’t get better as racing is suffering across the divisions. It’s sad that Nascar Media Group has to cash in on football to survive. Clearly, there are different opinions on the tv contract than Brian France’s view that the tv partners are doing an excellent job. When Jayski.com is leading NASCAR’s offseason coverage as we enter 2012, there is a major tv problem.Buschseries61noreply@blogger.com