tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post741047572491260810..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: TV Networks Would Love The Banquets In Las VegasDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-39947253038247113722007-11-19T20:43:00.000-05:002007-11-19T20:43:00.000-05:00who is the host and musical guest this year for th...who is the host and musical guest this year for the banquet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-36942350919576298792007-11-12T23:33:00.000-05:002007-11-12T23:33:00.000-05:00Just to let the rest of you know, I get the NYC lo...Just to let the rest of you know, I get the NYC local channels, and they NEVER mention anything about NASCAR on any of their sports news on evening news shows. Why Nascar kisses their butts up there, is beyond my thinking. Vegas would be a great place to have the banquet.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Oh, Nascar has a commericial on about 8,000 horses coming uptown (downtown NYC), and showing a cop ready to direct them, so that is the only NASCAR spot on any of the NYC locals...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27949082003643090892007-11-12T21:49:00.000-05:002007-11-12T21:49:00.000-05:00Mark these anonymous words...the banquet according...Mark these anonymous words...the banquet according to Bruton "off the record" will be in Vegas next year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8716124698423690592007-11-12T20:16:00.000-05:002007-11-12T20:16:00.000-05:00I'd like to see them move all the banquets to Las ...I'd like to see them move all the banquets to Las Vegas, too and then open it up for the fans. The stuff from NYC comes across really stuffy and the entertainment such as it is on the broadcasts for the Cup version is so lame and just puts me to sleep. Move and let all the drivers have some fun.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-7553057420750167742007-11-12T18:02:00.000-05:002007-11-12T18:02:00.000-05:00Something off the wall - how about a 'celebrity ro...Something off the wall - how about a 'celebrity roast' format for part of it, let the drivers mess with each other, tease and laugh, and blow off some of the tension that builds between competitors during the season?<BR/><BR/>That would be worth watching much more than a formal banquet/speech format to me. Some of those guys have a great sense of humor, it would be great to see them let their hair down and have a few laughs after 9 months of stress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27781508629514526342007-11-12T17:33:00.000-05:002007-11-12T17:33:00.000-05:00"I think you'd also have to factor 'ratings' into ..."I think you'd also have to factor 'ratings' into the equation. With ratings on the decline since 2005, an upgraded banquet telecast might be an increasingly hard sell, especially until the overall issues concerning broadcasting during the regular season have been addressed."<BR/>Tom in Dayton.<BR/><BR/>November 12, 2007 3:58 PM <BR/><BR/>Good thought: what network would air a new and improved primetime NASCAR awards show? Especially an improved production which will likely have an increased budget. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, no way ABC would go near it for the time being, with the ratings they got for NASCAR in Primetime and the Young Guns show. NBC always aired their condensed version on Sunday afternoon, not evening.<BR/><BR/>Cable - I don't think the nonsports networks would go for a NASCAR Awards show. CMT tried to air the Miss America pageant for two years and now they're giving up, it's on TLC next year. Sad that Miss America used to be a big deal but gets shipped all around cable now.<BR/><BR/>SPEED would be the choice, but ESPN wouldn't go for that. Would ESPN buckle down and air a special on the main network or ESPN2 in primetime? They probably would, but the end of November/first of December is full of live weekend events -so the show would probably have to be delayed and air on a Tuesday-Wednesday to be in primetime. If that's acceptable, then that would be an idea.<BR/><BR/>I'm trying to think of another sport that has year end awards or entertainment show and I can't. Except the Pro Bowl skills challenge - It used to be on ESPN, but it's on NFL Network now. <BR/><BR/>Changing the banquet is a GREAT idea, though maybe NASCAR will have to wait to get its network off the ground to get the awards/banquet really going.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5745984475001806532007-11-12T15:58:00.000-05:002007-11-12T15:58:00.000-05:00Mr. Daly:"NASCAR may have to decide who Champions'...Mr. Daly:<BR/>"NASCAR may have to decide who Champions' Week is aimed at - the media, the sponsors, or the fans. After they decide that, they can proceed with how to approach TV coverage and if that becomes less important overall."<BR/>anon @ 11:47 am.<BR/>I believe this paragraph is the central issue to be answered.<BR/> We all know that, if the NASCAR executive collective wanted the banquets together and in any other American city, it would be done in short order, so the discussions on the relative merits of NYC vs Vegas serve no real purpose until it can be determined what NASCAR wants.<BR/>Media, sponsors or fans. I think you'd also have to factor 'ratings' into the equation. With ratings on the decline since 2005, an upgraded banquet telecast might be an increasingly hard sell, especially until the overall issues concerning broadcasting during the regular season have been addressed.<BR/>We know what the banquets (and the telecasts) have been; now NASCAR has to decide what they want them to be in the future.<BR/>Just my take...<BR/>(My own opinion - I don't think BZF would seriously consider Vegas until the problem of LVMS's second date issue is resolved!)<BR/>Tom in Dayton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43876344897140251772007-11-12T15:48:00.000-05:002007-11-12T15:48:00.000-05:00I also believe no spontaneity hurts the banquet/aw...I also believe no spontaneity hurts the banquet/awards. Watching overall coverage last year, IMO the only spontaneous thing was at the lunch they had on Speed with the some awards the night before the banquet.<BR/><BR/>Somebody from Chevy called Jimmie Johnson's wife Chani up to the stage and thanked her for her support of Jimmie and gave her keys to a new Corvette. Yeah you could argue they don't need a Corvette, but she and Jimmie were genuinely shocked and thrilled, and it was very nice to watch. <BR/><BR/>Mentioning the ESPYs above - it would be nice if the drivers would do a few - emphasis on a few - comedy things like that. But it needs to be funny, like some of the Jeff Gordon skits on Saturday Night Live. <BR/><BR/>Other than Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson doing some taped skit with Jay Mohr last year, did they have anything like that at the banquet? I can't even remember what happened in that skit so it must not have been written too well.<BR/>So NASCAR needs to get them some good material.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43396766932738402192007-11-12T15:08:00.000-05:002007-11-12T15:08:00.000-05:00I like the idea from the link about the Busch/Truc...I like the idea from the link about the Busch/Truck banquet,posted above at 11:21 pm (thanks). <BR/><BR/>Instead of having the drivers give speeches, have them accept their awards and then sit down and be interviewed by a (good!) interviewer. Since I didn't see the Busch awards, I don't know what this 'living room' set looked like -if it was part of the stage or what. But it sounds like the drivers were more relaxed, even though the pictures show they were in formal wear. <BR/><BR/>No matter how good some of them are in one-on-one interviews or sponsor tent appearances, some simply can't deliver formal speeches to a large crowd. (From what I understand, that is why a speechwriter for NASCAR public relations had to be brought in to help certain drivers write speeches, and the teleprompter was introduced. Thus, boringness).<BR/><BR/>Music? I don't know. Maybe let the top five drivers pick one music act each. Maybe not all would be available, but if each driver provides a list of five acts as soon as they are selected for the Chase, perhaps they can book one of those five from the top five guys lists. <BR/><BR/>Some columnist talking about the banquet one time said the sponsor names should be run on a scroll while the driver is talking so the driver doesn't have to list them. That sounds good to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-26548500816061809892007-11-12T14:43:00.000-05:002007-11-12T14:43:00.000-05:00In my opinion, NASCAR has to find a way to bring a...In my opinion, NASCAR has to find a way to bring a level of spontaneity to the banquets themselves.<BR/><BR/>With the ESPYs and most other award shows you don't know who's getting the award until the night of the awards. Even though you might have a pretty good idea, you still have to tune in to find out. That's not the case in NASCAR. We know who finished where (there's no way around this aspect), and most of the contingency awards have already been announced prior to the banquets as well.<BR/><BR/>What's the point of tuning into an awards show that you know exactly who's won what before it happens?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-40195762063317295542007-11-12T14:13:00.000-05:002007-11-12T14:13:00.000-05:00SPEED is carrying the Truck Series banquet, as tha...SPEED is carrying the Truck Series banquet, as that is the series that the network covers.<BR/><BR/>What we were speaking about was SPEED's attempt at a "red carpet" style show from the NEXTEL Cup banquet. That will not be happening this year.<BR/><BR/>Please keep your comments focused on the subject at hand, and your personal views on the issue.<BR/><BR/>This is a great topic to discuss this week, and the points raised in these comments have been fantastic. Keep them coming.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-77981051627061999622007-11-12T13:17:00.000-05:002007-11-12T13:17:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-65803515655677618892007-11-12T12:49:00.000-05:002007-11-12T12:49:00.000-05:00I thought SPEED isn't having a banquet show becaus...I thought SPEED isn't having a banquet show because of ESPN contracts, not because they dumped their coverage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8276055057988997902007-11-12T12:29:00.000-05:002007-11-12T12:29:00.000-05:00I agree that moving the banquets to Las Vegas is w...I agree that moving the banquets to Las Vegas is worth trying out. As far as ancillary activities, I would like to see something like NFL Experience or NBA Jam Session, where fans would drive simulators, be part of a pit stop, or even simulate a victory lane interview.<BR/><BR/>One of the other comments was something like, "The L.A. media cares even less about NASCAR than that in NYC." I agree with this due to firsthand experience. I have written and published a novel which centers on a NASCAR driver who is uprooted to what can best be described as a "country heaven."<BR/>(If you are interested in more information or to buy the book, e-mail me at desmond.hobson@netzero.net and I will reply with the website address. I won't give out that information here in case policy prohibits commercial use.)<BR/><BR/>To help promote the book, I sent e-mails to the motorsports writer of the <I>Los Angeles Times</I>, one of the columnists of the <I>Press-Telegram</I> in Long Beach, and a sportscaster at local TV stations CBS2/KCAL9. I included my contact information and consented to interviews. That was four months ago. I never heard back from any of them. Not even the racing writer responded. I am very disappointed about that.<BR/><BR/>Also, thanks for whoever provided the link for the coverage of last year's Busch and truck banquets. The people in charge of the Cup event can learn a lot from those other series.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16574336173241511892007-11-12T12:17:00.000-05:002007-11-12T12:17:00.000-05:00In reference to Charlotte, at the present time the...In reference to Charlotte, at the present time the downtown area is undergoing a change toward residential renovation. The old convention center is being changed into a big commerce center, and the area offers almost nothing for race fans. <BR/><BR/>Once the NASCAR Hall of Fame is complete in two years, the area may be once again considered for this type of function. Earnhardt's point was that none of the NASCAR folks would need hotels in Charlotte, and that there were enough rooms for the sponsors and others who would attend. It was a point well taken at the time.<BR/><BR/>Right now, Vegas offers the most options for visitors including the teams and sponsors. It also offers the most venues for entertainment and functions. Once this year's banquet in NYC is again a TV disaster, these points will have added weight.<BR/><BR/>SPEED has dumped their extra coverage, and ESPN has put the Cup banquet on the back-burner. <BR/><BR/>I appreciate your ideas, and I encourage you to have an open mind and suggest what you would like to see from your NASCAR stars as an end-of-season celebration.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-62570739295386880722007-11-12T12:03:00.000-05:002007-11-12T12:03:00.000-05:00The best thing the CMA did was abandon their one-y...The best thing the CMA did was abandon their one-year experiment in New York, and move the awards back to Nashville. Now if only they'd leave the downtown arena and return the the new Opry.<BR/><BR/>I think it's time Nascar do the same thing - return to their fans. Either a place with a historical link (NC, Fla) or to a place where there is at least a race (Vegas).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-24977237885720246662007-11-12T11:55:00.000-05:002007-11-12T11:55:00.000-05:00Re: Banquet:The banquet airs on ESPN Classic from ...Re: Banquet:<BR/><BR/>The banquet airs on ESPN Classic from 9PM-midnight EST Nov. 30.<BR/><BR/>It replays on ESPN2 from midnight -3AM EST immediately after the ESPN Classic broadcast (Dec.1).<BR/><BR/>There's live NBA and college FB on ESPN and ESPN2 during the 9-midnight timeslot, so there's no chance the schedule will change and the live banquet airing will move from Classic to those channels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-49199146565362578692007-11-12T11:47:00.000-05:002007-11-12T11:47:00.000-05:00Anonymous said... I respectfully disagree with the...Anonymous said... <BR/>I respectfully disagree with the opinion that NASCAR does not have the gravitas to make <BR/>the banquet a high profile media event. If promoted properly, a NASCAR Championship Week could rival Daytona Speed Week as a destination event.<BR/><BR/>November 11, 2007 1:21 PM <BR/><BR/>That seems to be the question. What works well for fans won't necessarily work on TV. Daytona Speedweeks are popular with vacationing fans -and copying that for Las Vegas seems like an excellent idea - but you don't hear anything much about Speedweeks on TV outside Speed Channel.<BR/><BR/>NASCAR may have to decide who Champions' Week is aimed at - the media, the sponsors, or the fans. After they decide that, they can proceed with how to approach TV coverage and if that becomes less important overall.<BR/><BR/>I've seen two drivers comment on this last year. Jeff Gordon thought it was important for the Champion's week/banquet to be in NYC, because currently the week/banquet is mainly set up for the sponsors and for sponsor networking so that team owners can land new sponsors. Since many of the marketing executives are in NYC, he thought NASCAR needed to be there. (As seen by the resulting show, TV is an afterthought.)<BR/><BR/>Dale Earnhardt Jr. said if is not in NYC, it should be in Charlotte N.C. <BR/><BR/>``I think Charlotte would be the only thing worth even pondering,'' Earnhardt said. ``But New York's great, over the past several years (the city) seems to have embraced it a little better and been more eager to have us here.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-37321987277454185102007-11-12T11:09:00.000-05:002007-11-12T11:09:00.000-05:00JD,Do you know if ESPN is going to re-air the banq...JD,<BR/><BR/>Do you know if ESPN is going to re-air the banquet on ESPN or ESPN2 late night for those who don't have ESPN Classic?<BR/><BR/>Thx.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-83487236048833033432007-11-12T10:15:00.000-05:002007-11-12T10:15:00.000-05:00It seems like NASCAR has abandoned the tried truth...<B>It seems like NASCAR has abandoned the tried truth in business: take care of your existing customers first. They are so hung up on "new" markets strictly out of greed.</B><BR/>...which is an excellent reason for NASCAR to quit trying to build a track in New York. <BR/><BR/>And move the banquet to a more traditional location.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-84582801200119082402007-11-12T09:24:00.000-05:002007-11-12T09:24:00.000-05:00NASCAR is certainly looking at options, and one re...NASCAR is certainly looking at options, and one reason is the season ends for all three series on the same weekend.<BR/><BR/>Going somewhere to blow off steam, get the money and hardware, and then be done for the season would be positive.<BR/><BR/>All kinds of sources tell me NYC is done. The prices are incredible, the weather is bad, the traffic is horrible. It served its purpose of making a statement that NASCAR could come to the big city and get some additional media attention.<BR/><BR/>Now, with the changes in technology, that is not a problem. Las Vegas was floated because it is a professional convention city. Anyone who has been to big meetings or conventions there knows that they could host NASCAR and take care of every need. <BR/><BR/>As for the format of the banquets, it should be interesting to see if the pressure to be "hollywood" continues, or if NASCAR decides to talk to some TV professionals and weigh their other options.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-26832589774395625042007-11-12T07:19:00.000-05:002007-11-12T07:19:00.000-05:00The question here, JD, seems to be:Who from NASCAR...The question here, JD, seems to be:<BR/><BR/>Who from NASCAR PR is floating this trial balloon re: Vegas? You suggest it isn't Jim Hunter...but this looks and seems a lot like how NASCAR tends to gauge opinions on things they consider. The "tightly controlled" credentialled media plays along, publishes the discussion, and we see great analysis on sites like yours, and some discussions and ruminations that don't quite measure up.<BR/><BR/>What would happen in Vegas, were the NASCAR Champions Week to be moved there, would not necessarily stay there--thanks to the networks.<BR/><BR/>Hope someone has Gil Cates (the ONLY TV producer who can serve up a major gala style TV broadcast IMO) on speed dial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-1049187004894352162007-11-12T00:15:00.000-05:002007-11-12T00:15:00.000-05:00The idea that NYC does not like NASCAR is foolish....The idea that NYC does not like NASCAR is foolish. What do you want, 10 million people yelling it from their windows? It's a complex place with many draws especially in sports. Just because a new track was refused, does not mean that the place doesn't harbor a huge fan base. We know a boatload of NYC folks who are race fans, and thousands travel to New Hampshire every year.<BR/><BR/>Keep the banquet in NYC ... NASCAR is already signaling the reduction or eventual end of NASCAR racing in New England with the sale of NHIS. Now this, too?<BR/><BR/>It seems like NASCAR has abandoned the tried truth in business: take care of your existing customers first. They are so hung up on "new" markets strictly out of greed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8679817744650873312007-11-11T23:21:00.000-05:002007-11-11T23:21:00.000-05:00I've watched the Cup Banquet couple of times but h...I've watched the Cup Banquet couple of times but have never watched a Truck or Busch banquet. I knew they were on, I just never tuned in.<BR/><BR/>This column by Dave Moody makes them sound pretty cool. Carl Edwards gets up and plays guitar with the guest band (Robert Randolph and the Family Band, no less)? Now I would tune in for that!<BR/><BR/>http://motorsports-soapbox.blogspot.com/2006/12/busch-truck-banquets-produce-real-drama.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-20016863224215512312007-11-11T22:09:00.000-05:002007-11-11T22:09:00.000-05:00I agree with anonymous@4:20 that the red/yellow ca...I agree with anonymous@4:20 that the red/yellow carpet on Speed would have been fine if Melissa Rivers and Michael Waltrip hadn't been on the show. If they'd just had Wendy (and perhaps Krista Voda to assist),all would have been fine. <BR/><BR/>Melissa was the one who asked all the awkward questions and mispronounced names, and made fun of Kasey Kahne for still having a tag on his tuxedo. Michael nodded his head a lot and made Melissa ask the already embarrassed Kasey Kahne if he could have a hug (a new Mikey low).<BR/><BR/>Despite that, the concept was good and it was very entertaining when Wendy did the interviews because it was just like on RaceDay except everybody was dressed up. I would have liked to see them do it again this year. I just don't think you can have a big time awards show without participants being dressed up -at least semiformal like MTV -and without a red carpet. But they could get rid of all the awkwardness by not asking the "who did your dress" questions that Melissa brought to the show. In the past on Speed, the reporter (was it Shannon or the NASCAR Nation lady?) would just say to the wife/girlfriend they look beautiful/lovely etc. and start asking general questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com