tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post7572542524519860780..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: TV Build-Up For Sunday Not About That RaceDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27095945276923944292008-08-10T11:38:00.000-04:002008-08-10T11:38:00.000-04:00Just a reminder, there is a new post up about the ...Just a reminder, there is a new post up about the Outside The Lines episode on ESPN Sunday morning.<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-83122597335658584492008-08-10T11:05:00.000-04:002008-08-10T11:05:00.000-04:00The OTL segment just aired.The most puzzling part ...The OTL segment just aired.<BR/>The most puzzling part is the fact that Mark Scwartz & Kelli Naqi do not realize(or care)that NA$CAR does not "own" the teams unlike the NFL. They definately used the "stick & ball" model of sports. That showed a lack of complete preparation. And they made it sound as if everyone works in 1 giant garage every day.<BR/><BR/>That said was there racism at the different independetly owned teams, yes undoubtedly.I noticed each of the men dealt with it in a different way, yet got the same results, respect & long term employment. <BR/><BR/>Is it worse than other workplaces? Mostly. Auto industry & other blue collar workplaces can be just as bad. (I use auto & factories as my reference because thats where I worked. I am a woman) It was like that in the late 70's & early 80's when I worked there. I would hope that would have been a thing of the past by now.<BR/><BR/>2 women NASCAR employees claim to have had a very rough time, 2 women at SEPERATELY OWNED TEAMS not NASCAR had & have an easier time of it. <BR/><BR/>I liked what Lisa Smokstad ( sp?)said she "demanded respect".<BR/><BR/>As far as NA$CAR, the common thread is they worked DIRECTLY for NA$CAR, and both women dealt with Starr in HR. Both times she screwed up, and if she is in charge of "diversity training" that explains how it got to this point.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Jadotte was fairly well spoken, I wish Mr. Schwartz would have not tried to talk over him, just let him finish a sentence & ask the next question, then edit it.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes this type of lawsuit is whats needed to drag an employer to the right way of doing things.<BR/><BR/>Basically it was a balanced report,but, not earth shaking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-48148170459215874472008-08-10T10:32:00.000-04:002008-08-10T10:32:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-7334005455347731682008-08-10T10:19:00.000-04:002008-08-10T10:19:00.000-04:00Wow, this is one amazing show. One question that ...Wow, this is one amazing show. One question that popped into my mind is, what will sponsors such as Hefty and Kingsford do once they see this program? No matter what, these allegations, if true, reflects poorly on these sponsors and could appear to the general public that there is some kind of tacit approval of discrimination. <BR/><BR/>But, as a woman who worked in one of the most macho environments, a trucking company, I really have to shake my head at the woman who said she was called a whore because she was pregnant. A fellow co-worker of mine at the trucking company was pregnant out of wedlock, and the men from all generations treated her with respect. While I don't doubt that comments are made by overly testerone-filled Neaderthals, I just have a hard time believing that a pregnant woman would be called a whore, unless there was some kind of knowledge of her behavior that these men were aware of. But to ridicule a woman just because she is expecting, I just don't bite on that one.<BR/><BR/>One interesting thing I noticed, why didn't the woman reporter verbalize the team name when speaking of the individuals who experienced harassement? Yes, the crawl on the screen said what team, but all she would say is "the 57 team or the whatever number team". <BR/><BR/>Another thing. Isn't it up to each individual team owner to take care of such harassment issues? Nascar can't police each team and their issues, so this is a team problem if the issue involves team members. But did you notice, the two team members who reported no problems were from very high profile teams, Hendrick and JR Motorsports? Does that say anything?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63847069845408208062008-08-10T10:14:00.000-04:002008-08-10T10:14:00.000-04:00There is a new post up about the Outside The Lines...There is a new post up about the Outside The Lines program on ESPN Sunday morning. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-40222606125696240092008-08-10T08:13:00.000-04:002008-08-10T08:13:00.000-04:00Looking at the guide I see that the reair of Tradi...Looking at the guide I see that the reair of Tradin Paint is on at the same time. After reading yesterdays comments on Trading Paint, I am going to watch it. <BR/><BR/>I really don't care for ESPN trying to inject tabloid journalism into NASCAR. I don't understand why they are willing to "waste" a 1/2 hour of broadcast time on their flagship station discussing allegations, but can't even broadcast a 1/2 hour of a scheduled program (Friday's rained out qualifying set to end at 5:30, they left at 5) on their 2nd channel.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158542903007550535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16455080867799831262008-08-09T19:18:00.000-04:002008-08-09T19:18:00.000-04:00I will watch OTL I have the DVR setup.As far as Mr...I will watch OTL I have the DVR setup.<BR/><BR/>As far as Mr. Hintons article it was very well written, very in depth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38045059227602764982008-08-09T18:21:00.000-04:002008-08-09T18:21:00.000-04:00From seeing Ed Hinton on Wind Tunnel in the past I...From seeing Ed Hinton on Wind Tunnel in the past I was impressed with the detail and evenhandedness of his article. I may be wrong, but my impression is that he lost his job with the Orlando paper as a result of downsizing. The one thing I am sure of is that no matter what OTL shows, Jason Whitlock will write a hatchet job on both NASCAR and ESPN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-89157359606563325622008-08-09T16:29:00.000-04:002008-08-09T16:29:00.000-04:00I plan to DVR the OTL show because I won't be arou...I plan to DVR the OTL show because I won't be around to watch it live. I will be interested to see how the issue is addressed on this show. Being a female, and having experienced some harassment in the past at work myself, I have been following this story with interest. I've been a race fan for a long time and I have no problem with diversity and I sure am in favor of equality in the sport-- but I want it to be the real thing, not some trumped up corporate policy or overhyped driver. I'm sure that NASCAR would much prefer to be able to bully everyone into seeing it all their way since that is their usual method of operation. I don't think covering this issue correctly (and I don't mean in the shouting head media like Nancy Grace) will ruin the sport, I think that having an IROC car out there and bad racing will ruin it.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61539582388481286952008-08-09T13:20:00.000-04:002008-08-09T13:20:00.000-04:00JD, I understand that.Outside the Lines is not a N...JD, I understand that.<BR/><BR/>Outside the Lines is not a NASCAR racing weekend support show, which is what I was addressing.<BR/><BR/>As I said in the comment section of the Outside the Lines column,"If I remember that it is on, I will probably watch.Lisa Hoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15816899271672467136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-67931568822646708312008-08-09T12:44:00.000-04:002008-08-09T12:44:00.000-04:00oops...employee!oops...employee!Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74255091205635357982008-08-09T12:43:00.000-04:002008-08-09T12:43:00.000-04:00lisa,ESPN's show Outside The Lines has been interv...lisa,<BR/><BR/>ESPN's show Outside The Lines has been interviewing the other female and minority professionals who work in NASCAR.<BR/><BR/>The goal was to try and get a snapshot of whether there was a true culture of trouble or Grant's allegations were just trumped-up by an emloyee struggling in her job.<BR/><BR/>Like it or not, the results of this one TV program will be all over the place on Sunday.<BR/><BR/>Might be interesting if things turn in NASCAR's favor after the results of the iterviews are aired.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-86522663510961505382008-08-09T12:23:00.000-04:002008-08-09T12:23:00.000-04:00A lawsuit against NASCAR has been filed with the c...A lawsuit against NASCAR has been filed with the court. NASCAR has filed a reply to this lawsuit with the court. What else is there to be said on the weekend racing shows?<BR/><BR/>NASCAR racing and the weekend support programs are my entertainment and escape from my real-world problems. <BR/><BR/>If the support shows on any TV network suddenly turn into Nancy Grace or Dr. Phil and the panelists on Tradin Paint decide to play legal scholars and discuss the merits of a lawsuit, I will not be watching.Lisa Hoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15816899271672467136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-66550666205503069272008-08-09T12:19:00.000-04:002008-08-09T12:19:00.000-04:00Anon...Anon...Anon,You seem to be like every other...Anon...Anon...Anon,<BR/><BR/>You seem to be like every other complainer who wants to blame a real life event on the media.<BR/><BR/>This has not even started, and it has nothing to do with the media. If you want to find someone to blame, try the suspended NASCAR officials who exposed themselves to a single female employee and thought it was funny.<BR/><BR/>That happen in your workplace?<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47935306712853433362008-08-09T12:13:00.000-04:002008-08-09T12:13:00.000-04:00John john john.....you seem to be like everyother ...John john john.....you seem to be like everyother media outlet and blowing this whole thing out of proportion. I am really sick of hearing about the lawsuit. I think most fans are past it now. I don't think this will be the top story of NADCAR countdown. Its old news now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-84658389527164671062008-08-09T12:06:00.000-04:002008-08-09T12:06:00.000-04:00This entire issue has troubled me greatly, I actua...This entire issue has troubled me greatly, I actually find myself looking for minorities (both by gender and race) when looking at those working on the cars or fans at the track which is something I did not do last year. I will DVR the OTL show but I will most likely look at posts here before I actually make myself watch it. I agree NASCAR needs to stay out of the direct mud slinging in the media and Brian France needs to keep his face out of this mess unless he gets some big time coaching.Newracefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16324764517098771035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-12827032644473223342008-08-09T11:37:00.000-04:002008-08-09T11:37:00.000-04:00Ed Hinton is a 1970 graduate of the University of ...Ed Hinton is a 1970 graduate of the University of Mississippi. He began working for the Orlando Sentinel covering NASCAR. He later moved to Atlanta to work for the National - a sports daily newspaper which folded after a few years. In 1993, Hinton wrote a book with Dallas Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson. He was then hired by Sports Illustrated as a senior writer. In May 1999 he was involved in a controversy when he wrote an article about a fatal accident at an IRL race at Lowe's Motor Speedway in Charlotte. A tire went into the grandstands and killed three spectators. The IRL was critical of the article and revoked Hinton's credentials for the INDY 500 later that same month. Several newspapers announced they would boycott the race, and Hinton's credentials were restored prior to the race. In 2000 Hinton returned to write for the Orlando Sentinel and Chicago Tribune newspaper chain. His periodic articles on motorsports were run in a variety of U.S. newspapers which were members of the chain. Dale Earnhardt (senior) was a long-time friend of Hinton, and Hinton suspected that he had died of a basilar skull fracture as had Kenny Irwin and Adam Petty. Hinton had recently written a series of articles on safety in NASCAR. There was a concern by some that the circumstances surrounding Earnhardt's death would not be fully investigated or revealed to the public because of NASCAR's influence. In January 2008, Hinton left the Sentinel/Tribune chain, and ESPN announced hiring him in July 2008.<BR/><BR/>The above information is primarily taken from Wikipedia.<BR/><BR/>I followed Hinton's writing on-line while he was writing for the Sentinel/Tribune. He was the only writer I routinely followed. In my opinion, he is one of the few people covering NASCAR who is worthy of the description "journalist". I don't always agree with him, but he is a serious writer willing to deal with serious subjects in depth.<BR/><BR/>Michigan fanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-66129269714524054322008-08-09T10:58:00.000-04:002008-08-09T10:58:00.000-04:00some thoughts in re: the coverage of the lawsuit:h...some thoughts in re: the coverage of the lawsuit:<BR/><BR/>hinton's article is a "must read" for those who wish to be informed in their commentary about this lawsuit. great historical perspective balanced with the contemporary drivers, a clear effort made to be fair to both sides, didn't back off the hard questions. thanks, mr hinton. (and, for some reason, i have a vague recollection that hinton and earnhardt sr had a falling out before earnhardt died? i might be confusing him with another reporter of that generation and i apologize if i am.)<BR/><BR/>fox has 2 men commenting on the lawsuit and its ramifications and don't believe i've seen either of them do nascar columns on that site before: jason whitlock and kevin hench. even more fascinating, both are taking a strongly-worded anti-nascar stance. hmmm.<BR/><BR/>speed doesn't seem to have anything at all -- but then again, that site is so difficult to navigate that i may have missed it.<BR/><BR/>it seems to me that the story has clearly moved out of the normal boundaries of nascar coverage and is now setting up to mainstream in a BIG way. in that case, it would be extremely intelligent of nascar to keep france out of the media and use only professionals in the role of spokesmen for the governing body. france has already committed some major pr blunders and nascar might want to muzzle him immediately.<BR/><BR/>right now, we're heading into pr full court press mode: if you think it was tough going to this point, look out! and i believe that nascar has made a very big mistake in commenting on the personal history of the plaintiff. a smarter move would have been to say nothing, allow (or facilitate behind the scenes) the revelations to become out in the press and thus be perceived as being above the muck that's being slung. <BR/><BR/>again, i have to ask as i did when this first hit the media: is there no one in nascar headquarters who is a professional in media management?!? i see little sign of it at this point, although the law firm they've hired should be able to help them with it.<BR/><BR/>and jd, yes, ms grant does have a pr firm engaged. but that pales in comparison with the resources that nascar has at its disposal, including reporters and commentators who are friendly to the point of fawning and many, many tv shows which can conveniently ignore the issue all togther. an individual pr firm, no matter how efficient, against nascar's media machine equals "no contest" in my mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-81720769906793662932008-08-09T10:02:00.000-04:002008-08-09T10:02:00.000-04:00Rockin Rich - that must be where I've heard the na...Rockin Rich - that must be where I've heard the name before. Thanks.Tracy Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361101058670921686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-33170769822024083372008-08-09T09:49:00.000-04:002008-08-09T09:49:00.000-04:00Correction to my post, (wish we could edit these t...Correction to my post, (wish we could edit these things):<BR/><BR/>The lawsuit was against the state of Fla., not Teresa. Teresa was deeply, and publicly involved in not wanting the photos made available. It really got very ugly.Rockin Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401306989231204937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-67387038007378405552008-08-09T09:45:00.000-04:002008-08-09T09:45:00.000-04:00Re – Tracy @7:25 AM today:Ed Hinton's used to writ...Re – Tracy @7:25 AM today:<BR/><BR/>Ed Hinton's used to write until recently for a big Florida paper, can't remember its name at the moment. His name became well known to everyone, (NASCAR fans anyway), when he got involved in a lawsuit against Teresa Earnhardt, (and I think DEI), over the state of Fla. refusing to release the autopsy photos of Dale's body after his fatal crash at the end of the 2001 Daytona 500. The recriminations got pretty ugly.Rockin Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401306989231204937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-64616444984595981962008-08-09T08:52:00.000-04:002008-08-09T08:52:00.000-04:00Anon 4:50AM,"Hype" and "ruin" are nowhere in my co...Anon 4:50AM,<BR/><BR/>"Hype" and "ruin" are nowhere in my column. The results of this TV program will not be known until the show is over.<BR/><BR/>Why you continually choose to address me instead of the topic being discussed like our other posters continues to be confusing.<BR/><BR/>Anon 8:31AM,<BR/><BR/>Here is a quote from a recent news article on that topic:<BR/><BR/>"A spokesman for the public relations firm representing Morelli and Grant in this suit said the case was never settled because Grant began working for NASCAR and was busy traveling for her new job. It was unclear Thursday if the issue had been resolved, and Morelli did not make Grant available to the AP."<BR/><BR/>Ms. Grant has a PR firm working with her and her attorney.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-31439512361367058342008-08-09T08:43:00.000-04:002008-08-09T08:43:00.000-04:00The NASCAR Drive For Diversity consists of an ad c...The NASCAR Drive For Diversity consists of an ad campaign , a logo ( can't have a cause without a logo ) and a very small , very quiet group of employees who are mostly unpaid interns . NASCAR has no intention of actually achieving anything with this program , but just in case anyone questions them on diversity in the sport , they have something to point to .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-91585726949037314752008-08-09T08:31:00.000-04:002008-08-09T08:31:00.000-04:00Sadly Ms Grant does not have her own corporate PR ...Sadly Ms Grant does not have her own corporate PR army to spread stories about NASCAR . Sure would be entertaining if she had the resources to dig into Brians' background . I imagine she could find much more than drunk driving in Daytona . ESPN needs to be very carefull to avoid smearing this woman by accepting the " facts " NASCAR gives them as being the truth . As we have seen many times , NASCAR will use any means deemed necessary ethical or not , to crush opposition .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56855995277566677992008-08-09T07:25:00.000-04:002008-08-09T07:25:00.000-04:00Just read Ed Hinton's article. Spot on, as the Bri...Just read Ed Hinton's article. Spot on, as the Brits say. <BR/><BR/>BTW, what is Hinton's professional background? His name is so familiar -Tracy Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14361101058670921686noreply@blogger.com