tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post8205511427864153610..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: NASCAR TV Partners About To Be Put To The TestDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56545017743829394372008-06-20T10:46:00.000-04:002008-06-20T10:46:00.000-04:00In a perfect world, there would be ONE media outle...In a perfect world, there would be ONE media outlet who would report the news in Nascar without any fear or prejudice. I'm so sick and tired of Speed and their shows, and even ESPN to a certain extent, couching their comments so they don't have to worry about recriminations from Nascar or their teams. I'm tired of Mikey Waltrip on TWIN being over the top politically correct---Nascar could sue him and he'd still not have anything negative or controversial to say against Big Brother Nascar. Every decade you'll hear something slightly opinionated on Raceday, but you'll rarely hear the tough issues being discussed. It would be great to have someone like Jim Rome, who doesn't seem to be afraid of anyone, tackle Nascar and it's important issues. But alas, this will never be.<BR/><BR/>I guess it's that way in all sports. The uneasy marriage between media and sports is a delicate one. Case in point; a few years ago, there was an athlete on one of our professional sports teams who was quite popular with the fans for his athletic ability. There was some quiet rumbling about him, but nothing substantial. But once that guys was traded away, boy did the fangs come out. He was called everything but good by the local media. I guess this just points to the fact that the media, be it print or electronic, must toe the line and kiss the behinds of whatever sport they're covering, or risk losing access. It's a shame, but it's just the way it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-73221615332245395352008-06-20T01:37:00.000-04:002008-06-20T01:37:00.000-04:00JD, I'm reading the lawsuit. Oh my God, is everyb...JD, I'm reading the lawsuit. Oh my God, is everybody in the garage a racist pig? NASCAR needs to sign up everybody for sensitivity training. I just can't believe in this day and age. It's one thing to think something, but to say it? Good grief.Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53861447782715811202008-06-19T23:55:00.000-04:002008-06-19T23:55:00.000-04:00This is my perspective. If you only take half of w...This is my perspective. If you only take half of what the lawsuits says it is is probably true. I remember Patty Moise in an ARCA race at Daytona after the BUSCH Clash and the scanner was all abuzz. Back then ARCA would let the cup guys run the show for them. I remember hearing that they should tell Red Farmer and all the other drivers they should back off Patty a little bit but not all the way. They said every chance they got she got hit. I could only imagine working on pit road with them... This is the Make or Break deal for NASCAR.. Nationwide basically waited out the lowball offers and won the series for around 10 mill.. The series is in Disarry big time sponsor wise and they took their shot.. I would have a come to some deity meeting with Bri Bri if I was Nationwide. They need to be very scared. The NASCAR media posse is soft pedaling this big time..E-Tickethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03373431350836360535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-84312814660457869892008-06-19T21:59:00.000-04:002008-06-19T21:59:00.000-04:00dot,Check out the story links in the lawsuit post ...dot,<BR/><BR/>Check out the story links in the lawsuit post on the main page. <BR/><BR/>We have an overview of media stories posted on the Internet about this topic. <BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53095002518535008172008-06-19T21:57:00.000-04:002008-06-19T21:57:00.000-04:00I haven't seen any real coverage on this issue out...I haven't seen any real coverage on this issue outside of Jayski or links on his site. <BR/><BR/> I think Ms Grant has brought up some things that should be addressed. The $225 million is excessive, though. Would she make that much in her lifetime? She had to know going in she would work with idiots. And I agree that she had opportunities to educate the "rednecks". Except for the pigs who exposed themselves to her (whole different breed), there is a difference between ignorance and malice.<BR/> <BR/>This will be settled out of court. Regardless, I hope NASCAR has good EPLI coverage.Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-6971734746877155422008-06-19T20:07:00.000-04:002008-06-19T20:07:00.000-04:00Anon 5:53PM,Well, the idea was to make it clear th...Anon 5:53PM,<BR/><BR/>Well, the idea was to make it clear that something was building "out there" and that is was going to head to Daytona.<BR/><BR/>Being a South Florida person, that is the best way I could get my point across. <BR/><BR/>I certainly would be open to your perspective on just how big you think this issue will be in the end.<BR/><BR/>Anon 7:02PM,<BR/><BR/>I really do disagree. If you listened to the phone call on the site link and read the interview, this is not your typical office issue. <BR/><BR/>She says these guys exposed themselves to her, used racial slurs that can be verified and eventually fired her for complaining. Talk about hot buttons for the mainstream media.<BR/><BR/>I wish I could agree with you simply for the good of the sport, but I have a feeling this will be a very long summer.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34544190199055374872008-06-19T19:29:00.000-04:002008-06-19T19:29:00.000-04:00It may blow over for a while, but if it goes to co...It may blow over for a while, but if it goes to court it will be a prominent case.<BR/><BR/>It took more than a year for the Browne-Sanders harassment lawsuit against Isiah Thomas, the New York Knicks and its ownership to come to trial. People completely forgot about it between the filing and the court proceedings, but it was on the news a lot when the trial finally came around.<BR/><BR/>Browne-Sanders was awarded 11.6 million dollars from the jury, FYI.<BR/><BR/>If you want another example about how NASCAR tries to bury its news, the misdemeanor battery charge and lawsuit against Kasey Kahne (for supposedly shoving a security guard to the ground at Homestead) hasn't been mentioned <B>at all</B> - since the very beginning of this season - by anyone (TV or print media). Not a single media member has asked him about it - If they had, someone would have posted a summary of Kasey's comments on a Kasey message board or YouTubed it if it was on TV, as they do with most of his appearances. <BR/><BR/>Yet online public court records from the county where Kasey was charged list regular updates on the court proceedings in the criminal case. <BR/><BR/>His fans are (quietly) keeping up with the case more than the media is, apparently. The battery trial was finally set for May 5 of this year but one or both sides were granted a continuance in late April. Think we'll ever hear about this case from NASCAR reporters unless we look for it online? Nope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-78519804052689323582008-06-19T19:02:00.000-04:002008-06-19T19:02:00.000-04:00This will blow over. This stuff happens in other s...This will blow over. This stuff happens in other sports all the time adn no one can remember a few months later and by the time a trial may or may not start, as long as Nascar has kept their hands clean, no one will care then either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63164248733783567822008-06-19T18:32:00.000-04:002008-06-19T18:32:00.000-04:00Because NASCAR is Ms Grant's former employer, I su...Because NASCAR is Ms Grant's former employer, I suspect they are somewhat constrained as to what they can say outside of court and, in any event, hopefully are being advised to be careful about public statements.<BR/><BR/>I suspect the amount of the claim may have been geared to attract media attention - but it is so huge that it might have instead raised questions with some in the media of whether the suit is just for money.<BR/><BR/>Whether Oprah might get interested is a really intriguing thought as her former (current?) significant other (Steadman Graham) is (was?) involved with a public relations firm out of High Point, NC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-85393759948601865682008-06-19T17:53:00.000-04:002008-06-19T17:53:00.000-04:00The sound you hear is the wave that is forming jus...<B>The sound you hear is the wave that is forming just outside the NASCAR community and is about to hit the beach with a force that will change the sport forever. Just how much damage will be done and how long it takes the sport to recover is going to depend on one thing. That is the NASCAR TV partners.</B><BR/><BR/>A little too over-dramatic for me John.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34417099914063935892008-06-19T17:34:00.000-04:002008-06-19T17:34:00.000-04:00Lots of good comment above about how NASCAR shuts ...Lots of good comment above about how NASCAR shuts up any and or all news about their sport. I believe if NASCAR was put under the microscope, you'd see many more cover ups that NASCAR has done over the years, especially in their busines practices..Be nice to have good unbias reporting of the NASCAR news..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-86374505197564150032008-06-19T15:53:00.000-04:002008-06-19T15:53:00.000-04:00Let's be realistic -- there is nothing the mainstr...Let's be realistic -- there is nothing the mainstream media like better than an African-American-as-a-victim story. The same people who gasp in horror if you dare stereotype a minority will quickly stereotype NASCAR and all its fans and racists and bigots long before the details come out. It's a hypocritical double-standard that's been employed forever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76987520573487373222008-06-19T15:25:00.000-04:002008-06-19T15:25:00.000-04:00Folks, Please try to put your comments into a pers...Folks, <BR/><BR/>Please try to put your comments into a perspective that contains your view of the media and how this story is currently being covered. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-78403237078496133472008-06-19T15:03:00.000-04:002008-06-19T15:03:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5254659175965922602008-06-19T14:32:00.000-04:002008-06-19T14:32:00.000-04:00Anon 1:15--we aren't here to debate the issue, but...Anon 1:15--we aren't here to debate the issue, but the *coverage* of the issue. However, she says she *did* report it--to her supervisor like she's supposed to. If it wasn't properly forwarded to the PTB, I'm sure that situation will be dealt with separately. But that argument is lame anyways--many if not *most* of us would probably choose to live with something like that for a while in our own jobs--to see if things get better, hoping a particular person moves on, because we really need/enjoy the work--any number of reasons. It's part of why I think Brian came across in his interview so poorly; it was a weak argument. People who complain to their bosses always risk getting fired; it's kind of a no brainer. Going through litigation is also not something people should do quickly or without a lot of thought. It's hard to imagine that NASCAR never considered something like this could happen. BTW, I don't think there would be a reporter around when only the officials are left, they have deadlines and flights to catch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-66261096506078877892008-06-19T13:30:00.000-04:002008-06-19T13:30:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-73190089570110354352008-06-19T13:15:00.000-04:002008-06-19T13:15:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-21062880734973209812008-06-19T13:06:00.000-04:002008-06-19T13:06:00.000-04:00Nascar has always been considered the illegitimate...Nascar has always been considered the illegitimate child of sports. You know it's there, but it's not quite in the mainstream or universally accepted, and Nascar has seemed to like it that way. <BR/><BR/>But to be honest, I'm very surprised by how little coverage this issue has received, when compared to what's thrown down our throats with regards to the likes of Brangelina and Brittany. When one considers how much sex sells in our culture, you would have to think that an issue such as this lawsuit would be front page in the mainstream media.<BR/><BR/>What's the reason for this issue being basically ignored? Many reasons, I suspect. Since Nascar is viewed by the intelligencia as something out of the norm, being populated by lower class, beer swilling, Confederate flag flying uneducated rednecks, it's not surprising that you're not seeing the mainstream media jumping all over this. I can hear it now, "Oh hell, it's just those cousin-marrying rednecks.". Another reason could very well be the insular nature of Nascar. We all know it's very much a closed society, rather like the Masons or some other kind of club with passwords and secret handshakes. But I would also surmise that another reason is that we're constantly innundated by things such as this. We hear about the bad behavior of celebrities every day, so perhaps the media feels this isn't all that important.<BR/><BR/>As a side note, after reading the short blurb on this issue in this week's Sports Illustrated, I cannot at all disagree with Ms Grant's comments regarding Nascar.<BR/>"They need to stop hiring ignorant sisters, cousins and uncles and start hiring qualified educated people to work their billion-dollar business. Stop giving Uncle Frank a hookup knowing that he's ignorant". I think that says it all. When you look at Nascar as a whole, even teams and track owners, you see nepotism running rampant. Heck, Bruton Smith fires an icon in Nascar in order to promote his son to that position. Maybe Ms Grant has this one point right. Maybe Nascar needs to open the doors to a new workforce.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-32801155676314240932008-06-19T13:03:00.000-04:002008-06-19T13:03:00.000-04:00With all of the media presence in the race track g...With all of the media presence in the race track garages, it is hard for me to believe that they didn't jump on this when it was happening. It appears that several things were "said" that would have been within earshot of several reporters.<BR/><BR/>I would say that there may be some substance to this, but I also believe much of it is just retaliation against NASCAR. Ms. Grant said she was asked about what it was like to be black and other similar questions. It seems to me the opportunity was there to educate folks (who MAY have REALLY wanted to know). If people won't respond to questions about themselves it's difficult to know what their situations are. She could have also responded with "I'd rather not talk about it" and that might have stopped the questions.<BR/><BR/>I have a great many friends that are minorities (black, hispanic, etc.) and open conversation is the best way for us to understand each other. None of us are always right, and none of us are always wrong, but we respect that we are different and accept that there are some things that none of us are willing to change our views about. That said, we are still very good friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-81085623791953730802008-06-19T12:21:00.000-04:002008-06-19T12:21:00.000-04:00I don't see Oprah touching this story while in lit...I don't see Oprah touching this story while in litigation.<BR/><BR/>She got HAMMERED years ago for making statements about eating beef and mad cow disease connection...when some people were on her show she made some comment "I will never eat a cheeseburger again" which of course she STILL does eat meat.<BR/><BR/>But allegedly the stock prices for the beef industry tumbled and she had a HUGE lawsuit against her for MONTHS in Texas. That's where she met Dr. Phil....so I don't see her jumping on the band wagon to TRY to take sides until this is over.<BR/><BR/>She's been there and done that with lawsuits. Not fun.<BR/><BR/>I do agree her show has power but in some cases that really bothers me but that's another story for another place. :-)Sophiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789033556426951026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-10908199002221139532008-06-19T11:40:00.000-04:002008-06-19T11:40:00.000-04:00The real problem is that in America you are innoce...The real problem is that in America you are innocent until proven guilty except by the Media. In the US, the media proclaims your guilty until you prove your innocence, and even after you are found innocent you will still be vilified in the Press.<BR/>It is a no win situation, and NASCAR has been lucky to duck this until now.<BR/>Once it make main stream, the gates will be open and once again NASCAR and it's fans will be a bunch of Drunk Racist Rednecks.<BR/>The only good thing is that we are going to Sonoma this weekend and not Talladega.<BR/>I have a feeling that NASCAR will be trotting out a lot of Yuppie sweater wearing wine drinkers in front of the camera this weekend to try and keep the redneck image at bay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-78753050872746672912008-06-19T11:19:00.000-04:002008-06-19T11:19:00.000-04:00I have a feeling that NASCAR, France and Helton th...I have a feeling that NASCAR, France and Helton think that if they don't say anything else on this issue it will quietly go away as far as media coverage goes. They are going to find out they are sadly mistaken. I just did a Google search on Mauricia Grant and got 74,800 hits for her on the Internet. I for one am going to love seeing France getting grilled by the main stream media. <BR/><BR/>The only thing that surprises me at all about this whole mess is that it took so long to happen. When I first saw women showing up in the pits years ago I knew this was going to happen at some point in time. <BR/><BR/>The main stream media is not going to differentiate between the Nationwide series and Sprint Cup series. That doesn't mean a thing to them. NASCAR racing is NASCAR racing. So everybody is going to be under the microscope, not just the Nationwide people. If I was a major sponsor in NASCAR right now, I'd be very worried about how the public was going to perceive my involvement in the sport. <BR/><BR/>If NASCAR, France and Helton just think this one is just going to go away, they are smoking some really good stuff.Vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530553847645526841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-43759265709169929342008-06-19T11:16:00.000-04:002008-06-19T11:16:00.000-04:00If Oprah does get a hold of this lawsuit and gets ...If Oprah does get a hold of this lawsuit and gets an interview with Grant, look out! Can you say "new ball game?" France and Helton have to be thankful Oprah doesn't do her show in the summer and will be in repeats until after Labor Day. If the lawsuit continues for the next year or more, though, Oprah would be an option for Grant.<BR/><BR/>And it's not that Oprah is anti-NASCAR. She had Kyle Busch on a long time ago, when he won a race (his first?) and he donated the money to hurricane victims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-39763479529593506852008-06-19T11:09:00.000-04:002008-06-19T11:09:00.000-04:00IMO the "mainstream" media latching onto this laws...IMO the "mainstream" media latching onto this lawsuit to the extent mentioned here is not going to happen. NASCAR is not seen as mainstream and the coverage of the lawsuit I've seen has mainly been limited to sports pages and sports columns, where is is getting more coverage than NASCAR usually does.<BR/><BR/>The other coverage has been a simple news scroll on cable "NASCAR official suing for discrimination" with no added information. This is not getting coverage like Isiah Thomas and the woman who sued the Knicks. The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, LA Times, haven't touched this story other than the basic news summary (the Times has a blog on it today, but not a story). The CNN link on the lawsuit takes you to si.com, which indicates they still see this as a sports story, not a news story.<BR/><BR/>People just don't care as much BECAUSE it's NASCAR. If the Fike allegations had occurred in another major sport, the media coverage would have been overwhelming. Because it was NASCAR, Fike's story didn't get much coverage outside of the traditional NASCAR media. Which was a shame because using drugs while driving a truck at high speeds seems to be more dangerous than an athlete using a ball or bat under the influence, but that shows how little influence NASCAR has in the mainstream. <BR/><BR/>It's still considered a niche sport in many quarters, and because of NASCAR's history, this lawsuit is seen neither as surprising...or all that interesting. In some cases it's not even considered a sport. One of the Times' TV critics today ended her review condemning a new primetime TV show by saying she'd rather watch NASCAR (not the NASCAR Sprint Cup series, just NASCAR) than be subjected to this new TV show again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38631862520494248442008-06-19T11:08:00.000-04:002008-06-19T11:08:00.000-04:00It is shocking that it has taken so long for an is...It is shocking that it has taken so long for an issue like this to be on the brink of hitting major media...the "sport" is laced with a HUGE number of dim, racially biased and sexist miscreants.<BR/><BR/>Will enough people care enough to enact change? They mave be forced to. <BR/><BR/>At long last.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com