tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post8586227099301485768..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: NASCAR TV/Media React To Childress PenaltiesDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5903661306901965932011-06-08T19:30:07.176-04:002011-06-08T19:30:07.176-04:00Spence took one shot a Busch brother and had to si...Spence took one shot a Busch brother and had to sit out for a week. RC pokes the other one several times and gets a fine that's probably less than his annual taxidermy bill.Palmettonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-73421060143020518582011-06-08T18:20:59.864-04:002011-06-08T18:20:59.864-04:00At 8:00 PM on June 7th, Anonymous spewed from his ...At 8:00 PM on June 7th, Anonymous spewed from his keyboard these immortal words: "To you people who believe KB "deserved" it - you are a bunch of idiots." Well, Awesome, I will have to defer to you on the subject of idiots since you appear to have much more expertise than most all the people I know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-1014398922521858872011-06-08T09:25:49.422-04:002011-06-08T09:25:49.422-04:00Anon 8:00 p.m. History lesson here - Kurt Busch tr...Anon 8:00 p.m. History lesson here - Kurt Busch tried the "let's press charges" deal when Spencer punched him in the nose after KuBu trying to intentionally wreck him at speed in a race.<br /><br />It made KuBu the laughing stock of the garage and the fan base.<br /><br />I was at Darlington the race when Jimmy Spencer came off probation -- it sure looked like the entire grandstand stood up and cheered when he was introduced.<br /><br />NASCAR talks out of both sides of its face with this stuff. They allow drivers to wreck one another at will on the track without any penalty -- and yes, I do think there is a difference between bumping someone out of the way vs deliberately wrecking them and yet they cry foul when someone tweets comments they don't like.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29023094130308079312011-06-07T21:08:22.089-04:002011-06-07T21:08:22.089-04:00well, i was going to sit this one out but what the...well, i was going to sit this one out but what the heck! my opinions:<br /><br />1. it was an owner on owner moment, not owner on driver. <br />2. RC was neither defending nor protecting a young driver. he was protecting his company and equipment.<br />3. RC issued a warning; it wasn't heeded; he handled it the old-fashioned way.<br />4. probation apparently is irrelevant. otherwise KB would have not been absolved of any responsibility in the fracas by nascar.<br />5. i would much rather see garbage like this settled with fists to the head instead of using cars at high speeds as weapons.<br /><br />like anon@6:29, i have no favorite in all this. but i once again offer this thought:<br /><br />take the personalities out of this & then determine how you'd feel. better yet, substitute YOUR driver for KB and/or YOUR owner for RC. still feel the same way? honestly?<br /><br />bottom line: i have no problem w/what happened nor with the penalty handed down to RC. nascar couldn't do nothing so it came as close as possible to that as it could.<br /><br />those who mock nascar will do so no matter what. this isn't going to destroy our sport's reputation: either one "gets" racing or one doesn't.<br /><br />and i like to think i "get" it.redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08469882559901586219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-20495517868928917192011-06-07T21:06:22.244-04:002011-06-07T21:06:22.244-04:00To Anon 11:19 AM, thanks for your answer. A point ...To Anon 11:19 AM, thanks for your answer. A point I wasn't thinking of when I posted.Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-6052265075952622652011-06-07T20:00:22.519-04:002011-06-07T20:00:22.519-04:00I seem to remember a driver in Nationwide that see...I seem to remember a driver in Nationwide that seemed to wreck people on purpose week after week. That would Kevin Harvice and he intentionally wrecked Greg Biffle over and over in NW.<br /><br />So Childress is also one big hypocrite. - <br /><br />and les not forget Dale Sr. another Childress driver who wrecked people on purpose and admitted it afterwards. But all he hqad to do is sweet talk Bill France Jr or maybe he knew the private phone line to Bill.<br /><br />To you people who believe KB "deserved" it - you are a bunch of idiots. It was a crime. He should have pressed charges but of course that never happens in sports. Childress should have been arrested and charged.<br /><br />So if your loved one gets assaulted but you find out that he bad-mouthed the attacker then its all good then? right. Thats what you are saying. Your son gets punched out but had trash-talked big-time. Then he "DESERVED IT"?<br /><br />THINK ABOUT IT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-11739401368954639742011-06-07T19:42:08.495-04:002011-06-07T19:42:08.495-04:00i can see alot of you kybu fans,don t really know ...i can see alot of you kybu fans,don t really know how many hours and money goes into repairing a front nose,hood and fenders.ive been on the losing end of repairing a damaged race car.you might think "oh it didnt hit that hard,why are they complaining about it.well it takes about a week to get the wrecked pieces removed carefully so you dont make any more work that is unnessesary,and assuming it didnt bend the frame horns down,meaning a new front clip,that means taking the car to nascars r&d center to be re certified,costing about & 3500.00 dollars.a new nose from chevrolet costs about $2500.00,and a new radiator from C&R,costs around &1500.00.I havent got to the point of employees salaries.So you so called fans should do a little research before you spout off about how little the damage looked on tv.craig dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-6238402045468649962011-06-07T18:29:03.636-04:002011-06-07T18:29:03.636-04:00I am amused by the moral outrage in the media and ...I am amused by the moral outrage in the media and many of the fans. When did NASCAR get to be such a genteel sport?<br /><br />The first Hall of Fame class included a moonshiner who spent time in jail. The second class included a man who was a central particiapant in the most famous fistfight in NASCAR history complete with a national audience. Drivers regularly use their 3600 pound cars as weapons at high speed when they lose patience or feel the need to make a point. Tony Stewart does a lot of good work. Does that excuse the times he has intentionally wrecked people at speed?<br /><br />And don't look too closely at the owners. One current prominent owner had a felony conviction until a friend bought a pardon with a donation to an outgoing president. I believe Stewart's partner was in prison at the time Stewart became the visible side of the business. And you have to love Joe Gibbs. He can have a come to Jesus meeting and forgive any of his employees for anything. Well, anything but not winning enough. That's the only sin that will get you fired at Joe Gibbs Racing.<br /><br />I saw the NN show. I have been a big fan of Ricky Craven as a broadcaster, but I think he screwed this one up badly. In contrast, this was the first time Tim Brewer said anything that was worth listening to. I am also a fan of Allen Bestwick and desperately wish he was doing play by play. But his commentary on this issue made him sound like he just fell off the turnip truck. He's been around the sport long enough to know better.<br /><br />For the record, I am not a fan of Richard Childress or Kyle Busch. I don't have a dog in this fight. I simply take the larger view and put this in perspective. It was a tempest in a teapot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-58779242363943138402011-06-07T15:41:51.120-04:002011-06-07T15:41:51.120-04:00I enjoyed the Time Brewer analysis because I agree...I enjoyed the Time Brewer analysis because I agree with it. <br /><br />Why not move Brewer out of the tech garage and into a 90 second editorial role each Monday on NN?Chadderboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08452946399432640630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-75374639291883126572011-06-07T15:35:42.781-04:002011-06-07T15:35:42.781-04:00Anon 11:06 brought up a point that I thought of wh...Anon 11:06 brought up a point that I thought of when the incident happened.<br /><br />Richard was in the role of Truck owner and Kyle was in the role of Truck owner/driver.<br /><br />All media/fans have their own opinion of the incident and fine for their own reasons.<br /><br />As for myself, I'm ready to move on. :)Lisa Hoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17467463661032218684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16681061969460304542011-06-07T14:56:09.148-04:002011-06-07T14:56:09.148-04:00"What if Kyle was injured?" Seriously R...<i>"What if Kyle was injured?" </i> Seriously Ricky Craven? That dipweed Busch drives 128mph on a city street in the middle of the day when soccer mommies could have pulled out in front of him at any moment and THAT doesn't get your attention but three punches from Childress does? Seriously? Where are your priorities? I normally abhor vigilante justice but between NASCAR looking the other way and the Busch-Gibbs apologists and the complicit sponsors who silently endorse this young man's behavior I just don't think there was any other way to get his attention that it's time to straighten up and fly right. Heck 50k a punch probably wasn't enough. Shoulda hit him another 250k worth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80979523852248212782011-06-07T14:04:12.399-04:002011-06-07T14:04:12.399-04:00I'm thoroughly enjoying the posts on this thre...I'm thoroughly enjoying the posts on this thread. You have to give some folks kudos for being consistent. There are several posts this morning from people who, several weeks ago thought that Samantha Busch was just a bimbo and the other thought Sam was a bimbo because he didn't consider her degree major from Perdue 'worthy'. You'll never guess their position on the Childress meltdown?!? Growing up in Pennsylvania, there was a Pennsylvania Dutch saying..."give some people enough rope, and they'll hang themselves.."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-54999598881913428932011-06-07T13:53:07.770-04:002011-06-07T13:53:07.770-04:00KYle bush was warned by RC LEAVE MY CARS ALONE. if...KYle bush was warned by RC LEAVE MY CARS ALONE. if u have a problem go face to face with it.<br /> Kyle is a Big man behind the wheel using the car/truck as a weapon. but is a WIMMP in face to face meeting.<br />Nascar said KYLE did nothing wrong, BS he ran into the truck. If that id the case after every race someone or everyone should run into KYLE's carAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38757837311116638462011-06-07T12:59:06.913-04:002011-06-07T12:59:06.913-04:00Kyle Busch is a bully and just like in real life s...Kyle Busch is a bully and just like in real life sometimes a bully has to be knocked to the ground. Kudos to Childress.indyfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-71444877981666895052011-06-07T12:53:05.245-04:002011-06-07T12:53:05.245-04:00AR--I think we all appreciate some candor from a K...AR--I think we all appreciate some candor from a Kyle fan. We all know Kyle has great talent. In fact, I dislike him so much that I kept hoping his maturity would *not* catch up with him, lol, cause then he would be a bigger threat. The difference I've seen between Kyle & Kurt is that Kurt eventually started to care what others (perhaps not always his cc or team...) thought of him. Kyle doesn't. That doesn't make him evil, just immature and selfish. It has occurred to me that eventual parenthood would change him. But I also think of some of the other drivers who've been given 'lessons' like this...Ernie Irvan comes to mind...and for Kyle, I do hope it sticks. He only makes the road harder for himself. The press is obviously going to focus on this all week, but my hope is that we won't see the camera close up every time an RCR car gets within 20 feet of the 18.Seventeen Fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-39011614812393717692011-06-07T12:48:24.354-04:002011-06-07T12:48:24.354-04:00i'm starting to think nascar lost it's his...i'm starting to think nascar lost it's history, 79 Daytona anyone and of course before thenSpencernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76969030955838244512011-06-07T12:03:24.910-04:002011-06-07T12:03:24.910-04:00Dale was well known for damaging competitor's ...Dale was well known for damaging competitor's cars to win a race. Harvick is not the model of even temperament. There's a pattern of aggression at RCR that needs to be addressed by NASCAR but this was not the answer.<br /><br />I think the story is overblown because writers are short on exciting stories. Nobody got hurt and the fine won't change anything. Agree that battles should be handled in the garage instead of on the track where things can go bad quickly, but that's how racing has always been and will always will be.<br /><br />If NASCAR thought this was serious they would have suspended the team from racing. Like Carl Long's $200k fine and 8 race suspension for being .017 cubic inches over. Or Mayfield's lifetime ban. They put him on probation just like they did for Robby Gordon's altercation.<br /><br />PS: I found out through Google NewsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-89746500397838725962011-06-07T11:46:33.251-04:002011-06-07T11:46:33.251-04:00Hearing some of the comments by some of the analys...Hearing some of the comments by some of the analysts tells me the networks need to take the handcuffs off their announcers.<br /><br />I think Childress should have been suspended. A big fine means nothing. I was suprised Kyle Busch get nothing. He's the one that slammed into Childress' truck for no good reason. I guess I can't blame Childress for doing what he did. But a message also needs to be sent that an owner can't take matters into their own hands and physically confronting a driver that doesn't work for him.MRM4https://www.blogger.com/profile/04045747192945960087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-40183036405967879692011-06-07T11:33:59.170-04:002011-06-07T11:33:59.170-04:00What I did not hear was the obvious point. Well, a...What I did not hear was the obvious point. Well, at least to me it is obvious. The fine, the suspension are really academic. $150k, $300k would not matter to RC. Probation (whatever that means) or suspension for "X" number of races would not matter to RC. Just would not.<br /><br />What matters is KyBu, and everyone here knows I am a fan of his, now KNOWS "something." THAT "something" will stick with him for a long, long time.<br /><br />No one in the media, at least that I have seen, mentioned this.<br /><br />I'd say the penalty was worth, to RC, every single penny. Every single one.AncientRacernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-51864115529353536682011-06-07T11:19:39.589-04:002011-06-07T11:19:39.589-04:00Dot, for your video answer--even if someone was c...Dot, for your video answer--even if someone was close enough to film, everyone in the garage has a hard card. People know who was around. They've figure out who released it and you'd be in big trouble. It's okay to have issues amongst themelves, but they close ranks when it comes to the press. I think there is just a code there, you know not to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-76556008144590172032011-06-07T11:07:34.236-04:002011-06-07T11:07:34.236-04:00I saw NN last night and was pleasantly surprised t...I saw NN last night and was pleasantly surprised to hear what Tim Brewer said. I like him, just not on the Tech Garage segments that interrupt the racing (big box). We'd probably dislike anyone in that role no matter who it was. <br />KyB had this coming. I'm glad RC punched him. I bet others in the garage and elsewhere agree with this. I've heard that the fines go into the point fund, so maybe RC will get some of it back when his drivers make the chase. ;) <br />I'm still wondering why there isn't any video evidence of this, or is there? Did nascar confiscate the cell phones of those in the garage and delete it? Or, threaten fines if shown? I'm also wondering why KyB got a pass for hitting Coulter's truck with malice and not as a "good job kid, you out Kyled me" hit. At least his probation should've been extended.Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29703037234007293832011-06-07T11:06:29.977-04:002011-06-07T11:06:29.977-04:00This was not an owner against a driver. This was a...This was not an owner against a driver. This was an owner against and owner/driver and both of them are grown men with Kyle having the edge because he is a young man. This fine was way too high based on what Kyle got for his Darlington antics and Kyle got nothing for his speeding ticket. Listen folks, you are on probation as a driver, do you go out and deliberately run into a race vehicle of the other owner who you've been involved with at Darlington? Well, most people with a little sense wouldn't but Kyle has proven that he is not very smart about things. And, if you were Nascar, wouldn't you have emphasized to Kyle to avoid any deliberate contact with a Childress Car? Yet, Kyle bumped Richard's Truck after Richard had already warned Busch not to and I assumed Nascar should have too. That's why I'm puzzled as to why Nascar was so fast to absolve Kyle of any blame for this incident when it's clear if not for Kyle's bump of the Childress Truck this would have never happened. And, just because you have a little money doesn't make you happy when people tear your equipment up. And, what about the past history of both involved? To my knowledge, Childress hasn't had any discipline problems with his self that I can think of. Yet, Kyle has had quite a few events the last several years. This is his third event in about three weeks. Darlington, the speeding ticket, and the bumping of Childress' Truck. How can Nascar not blame Kyle for this. He's the one that bumped Richard's Truck. And, it's clear that Kyle wasn't injured for what happpened but Kyle's actions over the last few years could of very easily resulted in some serious injuries and a lot of other drivers/owners equipment has be destroyed by Kyle's Actions. The only thing I can figured out is Toyota must be really paying Nascar some big money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-54939695677945762002011-06-07T10:48:00.953-04:002011-06-07T10:48:00.953-04:00RC is old school, that is missing from the sport. ...RC is old school, that is missing from the sport. Take nothing away from KB's ability to drive a car, but he runs his mouth, and can't back it up. Here are the facts, the Bush brothers are 0-4. Kurt, runs his mouth about Spencer, gets his nose busted. 0-1. Kyle tries to rough up Steve Wallce, Steve almost rips his head off. 0-2. Kyle turns KH into the wall, KH confronts him, Kyle runs. 0-3. Now he hits the nerve of an old school guy. 0-4. Again, he can drive a race car, no dispute there, he runs his mouth, then hides under the covers. Man up Kyle, Your a punk, with no Punk !!!Rocnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-4727040002238739662011-06-07T10:15:57.100-04:002011-06-07T10:15:57.100-04:00I've seen Nolan Ryan do the same thing to a ba...I've seen Nolan Ryan do the same thing to a batter during a baseball game too. It's the heat of the battle but my observation is that if Sr. were still alive and driving I think things would be different out on the track. Maybe RC going way back with Nascar had something to do with the light penalty. Someone mentioned Carl flipping and almost killing Brad K last year and people stuck up for CE and Nascar only put him on probation I don't remember whether there was a fine or not. What RC did was really nothing he's 65 and KyBucsh is 26 I didn't see any marks on Kyle. And Nascar's probation is a joke.Vicky Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13084198036514255332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-84457734765790505902011-06-07T10:09:31.479-04:002011-06-07T10:09:31.479-04:00for those of you saying Kyle didn't do anythin...for those of you saying Kyle didn't do anything to warrant this...oh, puleez. This goes back a long ways--it was not about the door donut--it was about years of putting up with his antics. At some point, with every child, you have to say 'no more' and if they cross the line, even over something minor, you have to follow through. Yes, I think the punishment was too light. But if all RC was upset about, anon 6:52, was Kyle winning, why hasn't he been punching Jimmie Johnson or Denny Hamlin? <br /><br />I think we all know, no talking heads are going to be really objective about NASCAR. That has *never* been true. If they do, they'll be looking at a pink slip (yes, it has happened, and yes, it's NASCAR who dictated it, regardless of who the actual employer was.) They can take away the hard card and make it impossible for you to do your job. Why NASCAR does this when other sports don't, and aren't afraid to take the criticism I have never understood. I think the NFL, the NBA, all the major leagues get publicity even when they're being criticized by the press so they go with it. It all goes back to the days of Big Bill's 'benevolent dictatorship'. Sure, it's time to get over that, but as we can see, no one wants to be the first to try and make it happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com