tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post8607114802952167329..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: "NASCAR Now" vs. "Race Hub" Battle FizzlesDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23563820551774513052010-03-06T11:35:14.129-05:002010-03-06T11:35:14.129-05:00DVR is the viewer's friend. You don't have...DVR is the viewer's friend. You don't have to miss the news segment of Race Hub, and you can zip by stories you don't care about. <br /><br />Twitter has become a crutch for lots of ESPN shows to pad content and avoid the need for creativity. Best example is the insufferable Sportsnation, with the even more insufferable Colin Cowpie. <br /><br />NascarNow is good on Monday. Enough that I don't even miss TWIN a little. But right now the remainder of the week seems to require continual reprise of the obligatory big story of the year so far which they judge to be the RCR revival.<br /><br />Race Hub really needs to ditch the set, and stop making the guests stand awkwardly and uncomfortably, wondering if it's ok to put hands in pockets or to hitch thumbs in the belt. But the range of guests they get is much better than what NN is interested in or willing to do. Hammond and Larry McReynolds have both been used to much better effect than Tim Brewer, in discussing and reviewing, for example, the various rules changes this year. <br /><br />We should be glad that we are getting content from both networks, and that NN is a very different show than it used to be. We can expect that RH will continue to grow as well. ESPN has already had several years to polish their entry.dwighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16804227666271358860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-83019551767462529632010-03-05T18:36:52.915-05:002010-03-05T18:36:52.915-05:00I dvr and sortof watch both, but bail early, espec...I dvr and sortof watch both, but bail early, especially midweek if they are just filling airtime. NN's team seems a good mix, while RH is terribly uneven. And the moment they start with fantasy racing it's stop/delete time. So far this year I've not missed much NN due to their not being on as scheduled, which was a major problem last year.FloridaMattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-75057151951725451242010-03-05T12:06:42.633-05:002010-03-05T12:06:42.633-05:00RACE HUB for one simple thing. It does not have ES...RACE HUB for one simple thing. It does not have ESPN tied to it. ESPN doesn't know how to carry the sport and until they do I don't watch them until I have to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-71689639339135362372010-03-04T16:53:15.079-05:002010-03-04T16:53:15.079-05:00I DVR both, but find that I usually get more info ...I DVR both, but find that I usually get more info out of NASCAR Now -- who'd have thought it a couple of years ago when I couldn't stand the show?<br /><br />Race Hub needs to find a plan. Rotating hosts don't work. They are in the perfect position with their location to be a good show, but they haven't taken advantage of it.GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29248179824641704622010-03-04T16:14:27.096-05:002010-03-04T16:14:27.096-05:00Race Hub is like most "NASCAR related" s...Race Hub is like most "NASCAR related" shows on SPEED - No meat on the bone. <br /><br />Just same old fluff from SPEED...<br /><br />Finally deleted it from my DVR as a daily record.<br /><br />BTW, Inside NASCAR on Showtime is a great show, too bad it's on Wednesday night instead on Monday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56656924865769789812010-03-04T15:56:04.693-05:002010-03-04T15:56:04.693-05:00Neither show does much for me. I'll skip both...Neither show does much for me. I'll skip both and get my info from the best source: jayski.com!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-56304836851798234422010-03-04T15:49:59.663-05:002010-03-04T15:49:59.663-05:00I prefer Race Hub. It's laidback and more in ...I prefer Race Hub. It's laidback and more in my comfort zone. I don't think 'tough questions' are a necessity in this type show.<br /><br />NASCAR Now is built on the ESPN culture of fomenting issues and tough questions are integral to their paradigm.<br /><br />I TiVo both and watch later in the evening. I find myself watching many more minutes of Race Hub than NASCAR Now.BToS JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07006493796055867710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-58677213394168524122010-03-04T15:28:15.380-05:002010-03-04T15:28:15.380-05:00Nascar Now anyday. I never thought that they woul...Nascar Now anyday. I never thought that they would out do Speed, but they sure have for me. The rotation of reporters gets on my last nerve. Nascar Now has a great Monday show after the race with their round table. It kinda gives me fond memories of what was once TWIN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-10739103410135601462010-03-04T12:19:23.342-05:002010-03-04T12:19:23.342-05:00Currently NASCAR NOW is the on that I watch most. ...Currently NASCAR NOW is the on that I watch most. I catch Race Hub occassionaly, but don''t fret if I miss it.<br />I am hopeful that Hub can mature and become a competitive voice in my nightly racing menu.boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294840909356871860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-82283343558250225352010-03-04T11:58:25.137-05:002010-03-04T11:58:25.137-05:00I can't for the life of me understand the rele...I can't for the life of me understand the relevance of any of these shows . They go over the very same story lines that every other show goes over . And there aren't all that many interesting story lines per week . How many times , on how many shows do we need to have Larry Mac tell us the very same info ? The hype behind all of these pre and post race shows is " an inside look " at NASCAR . For one thing , none of these shows goes " inside " any further than the newest race fan would be interested in . And no self respecting race team would allow any of these people into their true inner workings . The average fan could get more infomation by simply going on the shop tours . <br />Its a huge overload of not very interesting information . Since most of these shows are really only infomercials financed by NASCAR , they get the infomercial treatment from me .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9271143408769490662010-03-04T11:19:06.239-05:002010-03-04T11:19:06.239-05:00Race Hub hands down. Espn lost me during the Chas...Race Hub hands down. Espn lost me during the Chase last year. Plus the 5pm time slot here on the east coast is the worst around. Either just getting home, or working with dinner. And nope, don't have a dvr, yet. This group got me into Race Hub and I enjoy it. But lately it's gotten stale and I don't watch it every night like I was a couple weeks ago. With some work, a full time host, getting everyone looking comfortable and some harder content will change any issues I have with it. <br /><br />Oh, does anyone know if TDP is on myspace? Or just facebook? Just wondering. Have myspace, not facebook.JohnPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12569069135013356289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53592503540949865392010-03-04T08:58:54.918-05:002010-03-04T08:58:54.918-05:00I'll take Race Hub anytime. I think the varie...I'll take Race Hub anytime. I think the variety of announcers<br />and particpants create more of<br />cross section of the sport. I'll<br />bet you already know the answer<br />from the NN panel when questions<br />arise. What did you expect Brad<br />to spew yesterday when talking<br />about his "alliance" team mate?<br />Race Hub just needs to develop<br />some journalistic integrity and<br />ask the tough questions.51 yr. fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-13694508483557245142010-03-04T07:30:48.016-05:002010-03-04T07:30:48.016-05:00Race Hub
Miss Sprint?
The stench of David Hill&#...Race Hub<br /><br />Miss Sprint?<br /><br />The stench of David Hill's mucking about with something thatwas once, long ago, not brokenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-10122121716485244602010-03-04T02:12:08.428-05:002010-03-04T02:12:08.428-05:00And now, after all I said above, there is a rebroa...And now, after all I said above, there is a rebroadcast of today's NN at 10:30pm here in San Diego. Cox's Zap2it search engine either missed it, or ESPN decided to fit one in at the last minute.<br /><br />So I'm watching it and so far what we've got is Nicole (not sure) asking Reutimann and Brad D about Martin Truex and Reutimann's chances this year. Some good insight from all concerned, but nothing earth-shaking.<br /><br />Then a segment on Harvick's succession to the legacy of the #3 car. Nicely done, nothing really new. And upcoming is a piece on drivers having a slow start to 2010.<br /><br />Well...I know it's Wednesday, the slowest news day, so I'll give them a B+ for good presentation of mostly stuff we already knew. Nicole still has to learn not to sound like she's reading a prompter, even when she admits to Marty Smith that hearing the last lap call from Atlanta in 2001 when Harvick just edged out the 24 "gave her a chill." <br /><br />Next came segment about why Atlanta is so fast, and other Tweeted questions featuring Ray Evernham. He went to a cutaway car to discuss the track bar (or Panhard rod) adjustment we hear so much about. What kind of cutawy car is it when you can't see the dang thing? Now, I know what it looks like because I've worked on cars, but if you didn't, you just had to imagine it. Good description of it by Ray, but coulda used a better visual. He spoke of the track bar raising or lowering the car's roll center which in turn affects the spring rate, but not really why that happens. An Animation or even a nice illustration would have helped a lot.<br /><br />Maybe I'll amend my earlier reluctance to go out of my way to tape this show...Dannyboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16518711829783474742010-03-04T02:01:42.084-05:002010-03-04T02:01:42.084-05:00NASCAR NOW: why
a.) watched it from it's unse...NASCAR NOW: why<br /><br />a.) watched it from it's unsettled beginnings with Ryan Burr and Erik Kuselias where the host during the debut season.<br /><br />B.) been watching it more due to being at a time slot that perfect for me, unlike Race Hub which is up against the last half hour of G4TV's Attack Of The Show.<br /><br />C.)more established to me. <br /><br />and that's the ABCs or why i like NASCAR Now and watch it.boutitbenza699https://www.blogger.com/profile/09346154614634758414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29428887447705836712010-03-04T00:05:16.269-05:002010-03-04T00:05:16.269-05:00The reason I watch NASCAR Now is because:
1) They...The reason I watch NASCAR Now is because:<br /><br />1) They break down the race. Not just the winner and the highlights, but they will take a half-dozen drivers and recap their race. Overlooked by every other show.<br /><br />2) They offer mixed opinions. Sometimes it gets a little chummy on the set, but they do disagree and do get into discussion. On RaceHub all the discussion seems scripted and light.<br /><br />3) They get the most info in - the most clips, the most stats on screen, the most new between segments, everything. It's really not even fair to compare this to RaceHub.<br /><br />If you missed a race, the only better way to get a recap is Showtime's "Inside NASCAR" which does an extended three-segment version of the scanner talk. But aside from that (which is on Wednesday!) NASCAR Now is the show to beat.<br /><br />I like that they are having more reporters on the roundtable, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-31903551224546195052010-03-04T00:01:53.922-05:002010-03-04T00:01:53.922-05:00Funny, I think the addition of Twitter messages to...Funny, I think the addition of Twitter messages to NASCAR Now has been utter filler. I get Twitter... but there has to be something better they can do that put up on the screen: @tinyboxershorts99 says "Jimmie Johnson was awesome Sunday. He is definitely the team to beat."<br /><br />I mean - it is useless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-92006450515308717272010-03-03T23:48:52.131-05:002010-03-03T23:48:52.131-05:00From some NASCAR.com videos I've seen, I think...From some NASCAR.com videos I've seen, I think Monica is being groomed as an attractive, articulate, fan insider. At least I hope so for her sake, and I certainly wouldn't mind seeing more of her. <br /><br />The current trophy girl thing is kind of awkward, just standing around trying to stay in picture and look good. Maybe they could shake the winning driver's hand or something when they get out of car?jdh417https://www.blogger.com/profile/14541882649762424101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-25033470814065749452010-03-03T22:39:21.268-05:002010-03-03T22:39:21.268-05:00I try to catch both shows every day and view them ...I try to catch both shows every day and view them more as complements, than competitors. Many of the interviewees on Race Hub are unlikely to ever show up on EESPN, like lower profile crew chiefs.<br /><br />I do believe it is unfair to imply that an opinion agreeing with NASCAR is necessarily less honest than one criticizing NASCAR. I believe there are many members of the media who would rather choke than say anything positive about NASCAR, including one in particular at EESPN.<br /><br />In regard to Phil Parsons' poorly arranged appearance on Race Hub, of course nothing prevented him from bringing up S&P and giving his side.Richard in N.C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-81825502069485628642010-03-03T22:36:45.702-05:002010-03-03T22:36:45.702-05:00Oh, BTW Race Hub does not YET have enough original...Oh, BTW Race Hub does not YET have enough original content of sufficent interest to me that it compels me to watch more than here and there.Dannyboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-39169194030471591672010-03-03T22:34:30.517-05:002010-03-03T22:34:30.517-05:00I will regrettably not be watching much of Nascar ...I will regrettably not be watching much of Nascar Now due to ESPN's unfathomable scheduling of this show in San Diego. Below is the grid for the next two weeks as provided by COX.com's Zap2it search engine. As you can see, unlike last season when they ran the Monday show usually around 9-10pm, there are NO slots for the weekday show during normal viewing hours when people are home from work. This means that if I want to watch it I have to program the VCR/DVR and frankly that's too much bother for a business owner with a busy workday.<br /><br />I may watch some of the prerace show (I'm not big on pregame/race hype shows) and I will watch the Monday at 12 midnight recap of next Sunday's race when it airs.<br /><br />But this scheduling shows just how little ESPN cares about us NASCAR fans. Most of the time when a West Coast rebroadcast of NN is pre-empted, it's been for such inane stuff as a background piece on a long past NFL football game (not even a Superbowl!) or perhaps a poker match. A pox on your houses, ESPN/ABC/Disney.<br /><br />Thu 3/4 1:30-2:00am ESPN2<br />Thu 3/4 5:00-5:30pm ESPN2<br />Fri 3/5 1:30-2:00am ESPN2<br />Fri 3/5 5:00-5:30pm ESPN2<br />Sun 3/7 9:00-10:00am ESPN2<br />Tue 3/9 12:00-1:00am ESPN2Dannyboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-88080677575709779872010-03-03T21:27:33.857-05:002010-03-03T21:27:33.857-05:00I find that Nascar Now is what I end up watching. ...I find that Nascar Now is what I end up watching. They give me up to the minute news, and discuss and issues without seeming to cater to the Nascar line. I'm not sure what Race Hub is supposed to be. It isn't news, and any discussions are strictly soft ball. The constantly rotating 'hosts' just don't do it for me. Not what I'm looking for, so I stick with NN.Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03233133246348697023noreply@blogger.com