tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post876228264961810877..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: NASCAR Loses To Little League World SeriesDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47229821739873172292007-08-22T18:24:00.000-04:002007-08-22T18:24:00.000-04:00Did I miss something. I usually watch Nascar Now,...Did I miss something. I usually watch Nascar Now, thinking that maybe there would be some news that may of be of interest to me. This week Little Baseball Playoffs is on in the timeframe that Nascar Now usually is on. Have they changed the time, or have they just not had the show on so far this week? Thank youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-6767162758323793052007-08-21T14:07:00.000-04:002007-08-21T14:07:00.000-04:00John, thanks for the "nightmare sports" terminolog...John, thanks for the "nightmare sports" terminology!<BR/><BR/>Don't forget to include baseball - <I>e.g.</I> Little League World Series in that category.<BR/><BR/>Also, the interruption for the coverage of the Michael Vick plea agreement is a non-starter because all the LLWS games were also rained out. Therefore, viewers missed nothing there, either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-20938190904511717552007-08-21T07:14:00.000-04:002007-08-21T07:14:00.000-04:00As far as ESPN breaking off of footage for the NFL...<B>As far as ESPN breaking off of footage for the NFL, I'm 99.9% sure that ESPN has that written in to their NFL contract.</B><BR/><BR/>Yes, the contract reads: "In the event that a player or other individual associated with the National Football League is accused of, pleads guilty to, or is convicted of a felony, ESPN shall immediately cease programming on all of its channels and carry the news of said criminal activity."<BR/><BR/>Sure, that's just what the NFL wants. <I>How</I> long have you "been in TV"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-333640203947774722007-08-20T19:11:00.000-04:002007-08-20T19:11:00.000-04:00Little League represents everything that is right ...Little League represents everything that is right with sports today. Kids playing simply for the love of the game. Some of those kids are getting their one chance to be in the spotlight in their life. Hey, why not right? I'd much prefer to watch these kids play for the love of the game, than watch a sport where the most important thing a player(driver) will do all day is make sure he gets all of his sponsors' names in when he gives his post-race interview. Once every year, ESPN shows sports in all of its innocence via the LLWS. ESPN is doing the right thing here by leaving these kids on ESPN and not bumping them.<BR/><BR/>Quit complaining about ESPN. It's quite an improvement over the FOX and SPEED sideshow we've had to deal with for far too long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-51760688795535504502007-08-20T17:39:00.000-04:002007-08-20T17:39:00.000-04:00I have no problem with ESPN putting the Cup race o...I have no problem with ESPN putting the Cup race on ESPN2. FOX did it all the time by putting rained out Cup races on FX. It's been going on forever and will always go on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-30536096242182427782007-08-20T15:56:00.000-04:002007-08-20T15:56:00.000-04:00Race postponed until 10am tomorrow on ESPN2. The b...Race postponed until 10am tomorrow on ESPN2. <BR/><BR/>The brand loyalty has always been something that confuses me. Shouldn't people like the products they buy rather than buy products because they're on a car? I don't see that as loyalty, I see it as stupidity. I hate Bud, I like Jr. I shouldn't drink Bud because I like Jr. I also drive a Jeep, which isn't made by Chevy. <BR/><BR/>I was at the race in Dover this year. It was fantastic. For whatever it's worth, there weren't any fights. Nothing like an Eagles/Cowboys game in Philly. NASCAR fans are much more civil. It was a great experience until we left. Some guy threw stuff at my dad's car because we drove a Toyota and not an "American made" car. Hilarious because the Camry's are made here in North America, and my dad worked for GM for 25 years before getting hosed by the company. I think if anything, the only problem with a NASCAR weekend is there are always a few bad apples who spend the entire weekend drunk off their arse. But then again, isn't that true of all major sports?<BR/><BR/>And to the guy who wrote about the 15 year old in Little League. You're spot on. I've been saying for years that some of these teams from the Far East send kids that are older. How many times do you hear them talk about that new b-ball player Yi Jianlin and they say, "We're not quite sure how old he is." Ridiculous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-64396588399722195562007-08-20T15:45:00.000-04:002007-08-20T15:45:00.000-04:00Re: Anonymous @2:02 amLittle League right with spo...Re: Anonymous @2:02 am<BR/><BR/>Little League right with sports today? Remember a few years ago when that 15 yr old was pitching? That was the last season for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-13520031110378863042007-08-20T15:27:00.000-04:002007-08-20T15:27:00.000-04:00Anonymous "news" person -For many fans NASCAR is a...Anonymous "news" person -<BR/><BR/>For many fans NASCAR is a lifestyle (I am not one) and just because you think they need to adjust their "priorities" does not mean that it's not a lifestyle for them. Check out the infield of any race and you will find out how many make multiple trips every year to catch races. It's not unusual for fans to make a dozen races a year. Ask any marketing or advertising person about the brand loyalty NASCAR fans show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-68007834320453689762007-08-20T15:04:00.001-04:002007-08-20T15:04:00.001-04:00OK.Let's be fair. This an opinion blog, and always...OK.<BR/><BR/>Let's be fair. This an opinion blog, and always will be. All opinions are welcome, but that does not mean they make sense to all of us.<BR/><BR/>Your continuing efforts to lump NASCAR with other sports is off-base, and that is what I said in my ealier post. Take four days off, get an RV, go to a race. You will never be the same, and all these whiners about fights and drunks will be put in their place in your mind. You may come away with new friends for life.<BR/><BR/>My ESPN reference was in response to the fact that they usually do not take the time to get a blue name, and use the anonymous comment tag for all they can get. You should see the email I get from the ESPN.com server!<BR/><BR/>If you don't think NASCAR fans embrace the sport, I would point you to the infieldparking.com or rowdy.com sites. That might be an education.<BR/><BR/>Just to be clear, nothing here is insulting or anything of that nature. Its easy to make things personal, and hard to stay on the topic. That is the reason I do not use the names of anyone in the business except the on-air talent.<BR/><BR/>No one expected these issues this season, but they certainly have presented themselves. We will continue to bring them up, and offer one commentary. Then, anyone can offer their opinion without fear of obscenity or personal ridicule. Thanks.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-73328993414821570772007-08-20T15:04:00.000-04:002007-08-20T15:04:00.000-04:00I went to the race at Pocono, and yes it was very ...I went to the race at Pocono, and yes it was very cool. Where do people do sports for a weekend??? How about college football? People show up in their Winnebagos for the weekend. I do a baseball weekend every year and go to a park I've never been to and spend a weekend and do the entire series. I don't think it's unique to just NASCAR. <BR/><BR/>However, NASCAR has one thing unique to it that no other sport has. It only shows up once or twice a year. That's why you make a weekend out of it. In the NFL, if you have season tickets, you go to 8-12 games per year with preseason adn playoffs. You're not going to go for the entire weekend for 10 weeks straight. However, college football does do this. And that's 5-6 times a year for big schools. That's even more of a commitment than NASCAR, and the college fans do it all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16861189974291280252007-08-20T14:30:00.000-04:002007-08-20T14:30:00.000-04:00To AnonYou must not be a NASCAR fan. That is easy...To Anon<BR/><BR/>You must not be a NASCAR fan. That is easy to see. You may be right NASCAR being a lifestyle might be pushing it. But what other sport do the fans go for 2 or 3 days. Some go for the NCTS, NBS and Cup races if possible. The fans are passionate. Have you ever been to a race? It gets in you, in your blood. And it's not just NASCAR it's racing period. Someday ESPN will catch up to Speed and FOX and realize all this. Until then we are stuck with their sub par broadcasting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19895838027576713502007-08-20T14:08:00.000-04:002007-08-20T14:08:00.000-04:00When I said "minor league" I meant the Busch serie...When I said "minor league" I meant the Busch series. To the person who said that "if it's minor league, why do so many Cup drivers drive in it." 1. So they can get a feel for the track for Sunday, and 2. They really love racing. But you know that if push came to shove, they'd only race in Nextel Cup if they had to make a choice. If it's not minor league, than Why don't all the Busch Drivers choose to race in Nextel Cup? Because the series aren't interchangeable. One is the minor league for the other. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, why is it that whenever someone defends ESPN, they work there? John, I think this is incredibly short-sighted of you. You assume, that because I defend ESPN,(I too work in TV, but in news, not sports), that I work there. So you're basically saying that unless someone agrees with you, they must work for ESPN. That's pretty ridiculous and insulting considering my 15 years experience in this field.<BR/><BR/>For the person who said NASCAR is a lifestyle, I'm sorry but that is just ridiculous. It's a sport. Yes, not the same as "stick and ball" sports, but it's not a lifestyle. You don't make a living doing it. You go there, you watch it, you go home. Whether that's for the Cup race or the entire weekend, it's not a lifestyle. Your family, your career, those are your lifestyle. NASCAR is a getaway for the two weekends they come to your neck of the woods every year, if your track is lucky to get two Cup races every year. I go away for a month every year on vacation. Again, not a lifestyle, vacation. If you seriously consider NASCAR a lifestyle, than you need to reconsider your priorities.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, that all being said, the one problem with this race is that a lot of people don't get ESPN2HD. And NASCAR is just way too good on HD for me to watch it on anything else. Fortunately, ESPN2HD was added in my area of Maryland in December, so I'm in luck today. That's the real issue.<BR/><BR/>As far as ESPN breaking off of footage for the NFL, I'm 99.9% sure that ESPN has that written in to their NFL contract. And with the NFL being the biggest of boys on the block, you can be sure that they have the leverage to insist that they're the priority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35347438476289455192007-08-20T14:07:00.000-04:002007-08-20T14:07:00.000-04:00Funny to see ESPN posting in their defense. Maybe...Funny to see ESPN posting in their defense. Maybe it's Erik K. :-)<BR/><BR/>John, you are right not to try and explain this to this person. Let them read the archives. It all speaks for itself.<BR/><BR/>My hometown is in the LLWS and it is a blast to watch but why does it have to be on ESPN? This could easily be shown on local station affiliates of ABC or even Fox could've gotten it and put it on their State stations.<BR/><BR/>Also I DO NOT CONSIDER BINGO, POKER, SCRABBLE or SPELLING BEES (???????????) SPORTS.<BR/><BR/>If they got rid of the minutia, they would have MORE ROOM for the live sports.Sophiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789033556426951026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5806950994755935132007-08-20T13:48:00.000-04:002007-08-20T13:48:00.000-04:00Here's the problem with ESPN. Yeah, they are not ...Here's the problem with ESPN. Yeah, they are not a NASCAR station or a football station or a Scrabble station I get it! That is the problem. Let me explain. They air everything and anything as long as it may be considered a "sport" somewhere. Scrabble? Poker? Spelling Bee? Oh yeah the kids. Hey my kids play sports too but they don't get on ESPN. <BR/><BR/>At least Speed or Fox dedicates their programming to NASCAR for that X amount of hours on the same channel. They schedule other programming around that event. ESPN does the same thing for ball games but not for NASCAR. <BR/><BR/>And for anyone that says NASCAR is not a sport you are right. NASCAR is a lifestyle. You live it you breath it, you are a part of it. Most fans spend the weekend at the tracks and when they can't they want to watch the pre race shows and get all they can out of it. Which is why ESPN is not the right channel for NASCAR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-14192152711539033642007-08-20T13:30:00.000-04:002007-08-20T13:30:00.000-04:00Anonymous 10:35AM,If you want to go back and read ...Anonymous 10:35AM,<BR/><BR/>If you want to go back and read some archive articles, you would understand completely why this stick-and-ball issue is a big one.<BR/><BR/>As I mentioned many times, I am a Redskins fan, a Florida Marlins fan, and a college football fan. The issue is not being upset with stick-and-ball sports, it is that NASCAR is constantly compared to them. <BR/><BR/>Racing is different, it has different rules, and needs different things from TV than the NFL, the NBA, or MLB. <BR/><BR/>Even from your post, you compare NASCAR to minor sports. Where ya been? Nothing is bigger or more successful right now even with its flat TV ratings.<BR/><BR/>The idea of NASCAR coming to ESPN was to be a featured sport, and fully intergrated into the network in every way. That was actually in the ESPN Press Release. NASCAR was coming to the network to be the big boy in the house...period.<BR/><BR/>The simple reason? The NFL Network, the NBA Network, the Tennis Channel, the Golf Channel, and the continued migration of sports to their own stand-alone cable networks. NASCAR does not have one. <BR/><BR/>NASCAR comitted to ESPN for eight years with its highest profile product during its stretch run. It also gave all its second-tier racing, and the rights to create a daily show to ESPN.<BR/><BR/>It did not come to ESPN for NASCAR Now to get cancelled by live tennis. Show NASCAR Now somewhere else. It did not come to ESPN to lose out to scrabble. Put the race on the network and put scrabble on hold. What ESPN sold, and what it is now delivering are very different.<BR/><BR/>My point is now that college football is starting, the Busch Series and college football are going to head-to-head. ESPN will have a college football game live at noon, then Countdown at 3PM and the race at 3:30PM. With most college football games going almost four hours, it should be interesting.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully, things will be planned out to deal with that issue when it happens in September.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-17677027822529979202007-08-20T12:36:00.000-04:002007-08-20T12:36:00.000-04:00Okay, here's my feeling on this subject.Mr. Daly y...Okay, here's my feeling on this subject.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Daly you are right that the race should be on ESPN if it's really important to the network. If Monday Night Football was postponed by lightning or some serious problem until Tuesday do you think it would end up on "The Deuce" (the old nickname for ESPN2 for those that are unfamiliar)? I certainly don't.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, I don't mind what station ESPN puts the race on as long as:<BR/><BR/>A.) it's aired live in its entirety<BR/>B.) it stays on ONE CHANNEL the whole time<BR/>C.) it's on a channel that I receive<BR/><BR/>It's probably not so much about Little League Baseball (a different game was supposed to be on ESPN2 at the same time and it's getting pre-empted) as it is Around the Horn, PTI, Sportscenter, and Monday Night Football. If it rains most of the day on Monday and they had scheduled the race to be on ESPN, they would probably shove it over to ESPN2 once 5:00 hit (and screwed over the people that weren't home and had to record the race) so I'm okay with leaving it on ESPN2 all day long since there's no meaningful program on that channel all day.<BR/><BR/>I feel sorry for those people that get ESPN but not ESPN2 (are there still places out there that get one but not the other?) but I'm okay with the decision because we should never face a pre-emption or channel shift on ESPN2 if the race runs long into the evening (how long does daylight last in Michigan this time of year, 7:00 local, or 8:00 Eastern?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-33350183069847700142007-08-20T12:22:00.000-04:002007-08-20T12:22:00.000-04:00For the ESPN employees posting...I have watched ES...For the ESPN employees posting...<BR/><BR/>I have watched ESPN for many,many years and I can assure you they have NEVER shown the end of ANYTHING that bumped up against the start of an NFL game or moved the game to 2 or Classic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-70966619353641116652007-08-20T12:03:00.000-04:002007-08-20T12:03:00.000-04:00I was going to write a long post about the channel...I was going to write a long post about the channel hopping ESPN had us do the other day but I decided I wanted to watch the replay of the Scrabble tournament instead.Kevin in Brownsburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587307086741704859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-30048880613605715042007-08-20T11:50:00.000-04:002007-08-20T11:50:00.000-04:00To the person who commented on ESPN Classic having...To the person who commented on ESPN Classic having "Nextel Cup Racing at Michigan" this morning: ESPN Classic has been showing replays of Cup Series races at 9AM ET Mondays since Indianapolis, so it's a replay slot, not where the delayed race was supposed to start.SonicADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06647057393154203533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-7089674145380175342007-08-20T11:35:00.001-04:002007-08-20T11:35:00.001-04:00John,What is your obession / inferiority complex w...John,<BR/>What is your obession / inferiority complex with NASCAR being lumped into "stick and ball" sports. A sport is a sport period.<BR/>I have yet to see you explain what the big freakin difference is and why auto racing should be treated any different than the rest of them. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure if you talk with soccer fans, gymnastics fans, track & field fans, swimming fans, pick your minor sports fans, they'd complain that ESPN does not give them the coverage they deserve. Plus, they are not happy with the broadcast team ESPN uses to cover their sports, whether there is a ball involved or not!<BR/><BR/>If anything, ESPN has a problem with all minor sports. They may try hard, but can't quite get it right to satisfy anyone other than the casual sports fan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-62654994716055577042007-08-20T11:35:00.000-04:002007-08-20T11:35:00.000-04:00I am watching the Monday edition of RaceDay right ...I am watching the Monday edition of RaceDay right now and just thought I would flip to the ESPN channels and see if they were having a pre-race show..... ESPN has Sportscenter, ESPN2 has First Take and Little League Baseball, and, what do you know - there on ESPN Classic it says Nascar Racing from Michigan. It looks like it began a while ago and they are replaying the Watkins Glen race (again). Wonder what the rest of the day holds......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57300606619804041012007-08-20T11:04:00.000-04:002007-08-20T11:04:00.000-04:00Hey friends,Just a quick response:I have no high h...Hey friends,<BR/><BR/>Just a quick response:<BR/><BR/>I have no high horse, no one suggested affecting the live tennis on ESPN2. NASCAR should have started on ESPN and stayed there until tennis was over, that's my discussion point.<BR/><BR/>To the ESPN employee Anonymous 1:57AM, we should be glad the Busch Series is even on? It is the minor leagues of NASCAR? If Scrabble was already on, it should not have been bumped by NASCAR? <BR/><BR/>Its great to tell the ESPN folks in these comments because the only way they can talk about NASCAR is comparing it to stick-and-ball sports. Amazing.Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-55626779323341109282007-08-20T10:28:00.000-04:002007-08-20T10:28:00.000-04:00Thanks the ESPN staffer who posted above in defens...Thanks the ESPN staffer who posted above in defense of his employer.<BR/><BR/>While you're here, care to expalin why NASCAR is shuffled around and get non-specialist air talent--unlike stick-and-ball sports, which are never treated that way?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-29787273436810651862007-08-20T10:13:00.000-04:002007-08-20T10:13:00.000-04:00John,Its time for you to get off your high horse.E...John,<BR/>Its time for you to get off your high horse.<BR/><BR/>ESPN has the long standing policy of ALWAYS showing the end of a live sporting event, not matter how minor how minor the competition may seem to be be to some viewers. Yes, this does include those sports such as tennis, bowling, soccer, auto racing, etc. We all should be very thankful for that. Those sports have fans as well that follow it as passionately as people that follow NASCAR. They may not be as large in numbers, but ESPN does not descriminate against that and deserve as much respect as a fan of any other sport who wants to see a conclusion live. Rest assured, this will be unchanged when college football season starts.<BR/><BR/>While I agree moving a pre-race show to ESPN Classic when ESPN was available may have been a bit short sided, however, that is normally the first channel they choose. Plus, it was a pre-race show. Give me a break!! They still aried it. They could have very easily just not shown it.<BR/><BR/>When it appeared tennis may not end for the start of the race, they made ESPN HD available, as well as showing it on ESPN2 HD once tennis ended. At the top of the house, they continued on with normal ESPN programming, with the race on ESPN2. Again, this seems VERY reasonable to me. <BR/><BR/>Remember, ESPN is a sports network, that shows live sporting events, which may run long. No matter on how much you want them to be, they are NOT a NASCAR network!!! Likewise, they are not an NFL network, an NBA network, a MLB network, a tennis network, a soccer network, etc. When events run long, they make reasonable arrangements, like they did last Saturday.<BR/><BR/>And as far as the race on Monday, they are making the best of a bad sitation. The LLWS had already been scheduled to air live on ESPN. Moving them would be no different than moving Bristol this Saturday to make room for a rugby match.<BR/><BR/>NASCAR does not run ESPN. Its just one of many sports it airs. It does not take priority over anything else. You better get over it and get used to it. For the good of all sports fans, that will not and should not change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-80641311940138423872007-08-20T08:58:00.000-04:002007-08-20T08:58:00.000-04:00JD - I think you have some wrong info in your post...JD - I think you have some wrong info in your post. I'm pretty sure that SPEED has scheduled RaceDay for 11am (Eastern) today, NOT Noon...cwebshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13759294615493544438noreply@blogger.com