tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post8848192115938134272..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Phoenix A Watershed Moment For ESPN TeamDaly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger132125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27080595126597479242008-11-11T07:34:00.000-05:002008-11-11T07:34:00.000-05:00All of these sorts of problems can be traced back ...All of these sorts of problems can be traced back to the NASCAR TV contract.<BR/><BR/>NASCAR needs to codify the conditions under which its races are shown, i.e., all the Chase races must be shown live in their entirety on the ABC network, etc., and specify heavy penalties if these rules are not followed.<BR/><BR/>Considering how this network treats NASCAR coverage, it's obvious they didn't do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57873915781038692022008-11-10T17:55:00.000-05:002008-11-10T17:55:00.000-05:00Did anyone hear Dr. Punchy welcome the WEST Coast ...Did anyone hear Dr. Punchy welcome the WEST Coast audience to the ESPN2 telecast? He MUST go. Alan Bestwick would do a wonderful job...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18199515018661067816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-39231931404315360242008-11-10T14:35:00.000-05:002008-11-10T14:35:00.000-05:00In the defense of Hot Pass, the regular driver cha...In the defense of Hot Pass, the regular driver channels (24/48, 99, 88, 29) never lost the ABC feed. They made the switch. These are the channels that 95% of the viewers watch.<BR/><BR/>They have an additonal channel called the SuperChannel which is essentially ABC broadcast with the option of listening to in-car audio of the top-12 plus a few fan favorites (like having a scanner at home). That is the signal which was delayed in getting switched.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-5545075041540235062008-11-10T11:59:00.000-05:002008-11-10T11:59:00.000-05:00Zieke,That's because they don't have an in-car cam...Zieke,<BR/>That's because they don't have an in-car camera that actually points forward.alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12233729764999778397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-40450278893808612552008-11-10T11:58:00.000-05:002008-11-10T11:58:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12233729764999778397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-30900506664440850542008-11-10T11:51:00.000-05:002008-11-10T11:51:00.000-05:00This is why I set my DVR to tape "The Amazing Race...This is why I set my DVR to tape "The Amazing Race" on CTV, not CBS. Every other week, football pushes "60 Minutes" and the rest of the CBS lineup back at least twenty minutes.<BR/><BR/>I must imagine some of the drivers yesterday didn't appreciate Dave Burns leaning in to them and spraying them with his germs!<BR/><BR/>Did I hear there's a hurricane coming to southern Florida next weekend?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-83521392356682142542008-11-10T11:40:00.001-05:002008-11-10T11:40:00.001-05:00There is a now a new post up to continue the topic...There is a now a new post up to continue the topic of the ABC Network switch without the other TV production issues.<BR/><BR/>I will also be talking with Dave Moody on Sirius Speedway at 3:40PM ET today about all the excitement.<BR/><BR/>To see the new post, just refresh your broswer or click the TDP logo at the top of the page. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>JDDaly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-52668532435862570682008-11-10T11:40:00.000-05:002008-11-10T11:40:00.000-05:00Andy Petree was a total gem in the coverage. DJ wa...Andy Petree was a total gem in the coverage. DJ was good, as usual. They both are tactful in covering the dumb things Doc (who I loved when he was a pit reporter) says. <BR/><BR/>As I am a person with a disability, watching NASCAR is important to me. But all the folks in here who are carrying on so about the station switch should deal with some real problems. It wasn't that big a deal. The race was shown later on ESPN2, I believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-88146749969906340192008-11-10T11:38:00.000-05:002008-11-10T11:38:00.000-05:00What an ignorant group of people making decisions ...What an ignorant group of people making decisions at ABC/ESPN.<BR/><BR/>They are always chasing after and catering to the elusive casual fan, but miss out on this opportunity to grab the attention of the casual fan by pushing back their primetime schedule and letting the race complete on ABC.<BR/><BR/>If they had just left the race on ABC who knows how many new fans could have been made by just letting them watch the last 40 laps of the next to last race of the season.Labbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07920519648518535191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-22055555308828549142008-11-10T11:37:00.000-05:002008-11-10T11:37:00.000-05:00I keep hearing that only the eastern and mountain ...I keep hearing that only the eastern and mountain feeds were affected by ABC switching to ESPN2. Bull!!! I live in Sacramento, CA and when I came back from a rr break there was no race on ABC. No warning that I heard. I finally found it on ESPN2. What a joke. This is what you get when you sell your soul to the devil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19176627678531680182008-11-10T11:17:00.000-05:002008-11-10T11:17:00.000-05:00The numbers are in - from mediaweek.comABC’s Sunda...The numbers are in - from mediaweek.com<BR/><BR/>ABC’s Sunday line-up -- NASCAR (#2 : 4.5/ 8), <BR/><BR/>a half-hour edition of <BR/>America’s Funniest Home Videos (#3: 3.8/ 6)<BR/><BR/>The only thing that beat NASCAR from 7-7:30 was the CBS NFL overun...which was a 18.4 rating<BR/><BR/>Now lets see how ABC wants to spin this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-3089348270243445172008-11-10T11:01:00.000-05:002008-11-10T11:01:00.000-05:00"Only those in the Eastern and Central Time zones ..."Only those in the Eastern and Central Time zones watching ABC without cable TV were left out of the equation." ONLY! We were 2 of those (for philosophical reasons my friend does not have cable). I'm sure there were thousands more. With only a few laps left, we were most disappointed. And even more so when we heard what STUPID, non-timely show was coming on the air. America's Funniest Home Videos! Please. Give us race fans a break! Here it is the next to the last race of the season and ABC decides AFHV is more important than the race??????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8365888872723484862008-11-10T10:54:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:54:00.000-05:00That was a pretty good broadcast by ESPN. I always...That was a pretty good broadcast by ESPN. I always enjoy Shannon's interviews because she is such a doll, but she seems to be asking much better questions as the season has gone on. Even Tony was quite cordial to her. I wonder why no one ever shows a complete restart from the in car camera, ie. seeing the speed increase and going through the gears until top speed is reached.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-72997660484444847702008-11-10T10:43:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:43:00.000-05:00People should finally understand that Auto racing ...People should finally understand that Auto racing is not in the same league as football, basketball and baseball. No matter how many times Nascar spins the "XXX most popular sport", it just doesn't have the wide spread audience the other sports have here in the US.<BR/><BR/>The Indy 500 and Daytona 500 have a special status and would be shown to the end by a network, other races......<BR/><BR/>I was a huge WRC fan, but barely followed it the past several years because TV coverage was dropped.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-22033676107324866072008-11-10T10:42:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:42:00.000-05:00"Its the ABC Network Execs."Whomever it is, I stil..."Its the ABC Network Execs."<BR/><BR/>Whomever it is, I still find it unacceptable. How they can keep jobs is unbelievable. <BR/><BR/>Also, I'm tired of "In-race reporters". I'll take it over the Digger Camera (Fox), but I can do without either of them.<BR/><BR/>NASCAR is to blame here too. They should have started the race earlier. <BR/><BR/>I'm also on board for the forum. Maybe the studio heads can stand up and take notice.<BR/><BR/>Switched over to ESPN 2 because of America's Funniest Home Videos? Unacceptable, unprofessional, and just plain dumb.<BR/><BR/>Everything is wrong with the sport and the telecasting.<BR/><BR/>I just needed to vent more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-53461285185099194502008-11-10T10:36:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:36:00.000-05:00I just have two comments on the race coverage itse...I just have two comments on the race coverage itself:<BR/><BR/>Kudos to ABC/DSPN for finally talking to drivers as they leave the infield care center. I think they got everyone except Casey Mears.<BR/><BR/>But PLEASE enough of the "let's talk to Carl/Jimmie/whoever" on the in-car during a caution. PLEASE use the time to reset the field. <BR/><BR/>terriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61276244987143785982008-11-10T10:34:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:34:00.000-05:00My family and I got home about 7:30,left the SIRIU...My family and I got home about 7:30,left the SIRIUS in the car and ran into the house to watch the end of the race. By the time we found it, Johnson was waving at the crowd. ESPN/ABC let NASCAR fans know exactly where they stood last night. I'll be listening to MRN at Homestead and eagerly awaiting the return of FOX.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-81834588740513997482008-11-10T10:30:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:30:00.000-05:00I wonder if this will be discussed on tonights rou...I wonder if this will be discussed on tonights round-table edition of NASCAR Now? Allen seems like a classy guy. Maybe he will give a real explanation of why they pre-empted the race.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-33499521980678543752008-11-10T10:22:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:22:00.000-05:00Im interested to see if this has anything to do wi...Im interested to see if this has anything to do with the sports events on ABC being produced by a seperate company. What I mean is when it was ABC Sports the ABC network had direct part of it. Now its "ESPN on ABC" with ESPN producing the sports. I believe if we were still in the ABC Sports era this would not have happend. I believe ABC told ESPN last night they HAD to leave the air and there was nothing ESPN could do. Its the ABC Network Execs. to blame here, not the ESPN production team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-63384261182153615512008-11-10T10:15:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:15:00.000-05:00just a quick comment that our daughter asked me to...just a quick comment that our daughter asked me to pass on to everyone: she's an IRL fan as well as a nascar fan. at the time the race was switched to the deuce, we were at a home that does not have cable (nor any sort of internet access so i was tapping into the default wi-fi netwrok in the area so i could at least keep up with TDP and know what was going on!) we had no options available to us for watching the finish of the race as a result. when i told her the race had been switched to the deuce with some 40 laps remaining, she answered:<BR/><BR/>"yep. just like they did to irl, except then, they put it on espn classic, which we don't have and i had to try and watch the rest of the race on the laptop. so, i know how everyone feels."<BR/><BR/>she then went on to criticize espn/abc for pretending they have a committment to showing a race to conclusion but jettisoning it as soon as it runs over. she even mentioned that "they never do that for football or baseball, do they? but racing? seems to be no problem for them."<BR/><BR/>she's 17 and she gets it.<BR/><BR/>(and anon @ 9:42AM: that would be the answer to your question. the comparison to stick and ball is NOT the event, the game, the race. it's to the broadcast CONTRACT and that is, in my opinion, what makes it a valid comparison.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8947282228692624842008-11-10T10:14:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:14:00.000-05:00I just want to say--I think one of JD's points is,...I just want to say--I think one of JD's points is, IF the races were on ESPN, there wouldn't be as many issues as dealing with ABC, so I'd be all for putting them BACK on cable. NASCAR wanted its races on 'broadcast' TV, well, be careful what you wish for; it ended up back on cable anyways. And back in 'the old days' racing was not often on broadcast TV save the occasional 'Wide World of Sports' moment, or the Daytona 500 (and didn't CBS sometimes broadcast Michigan?) <BR/><BR/>Anyways, I get that a lot of people don't have or can't afford cable, but I think majority rules, like in most things...it was no big deal to me to turn over, but I have sympathy for those who record--*however*--if it's a race I *really* care about, if I'm not home I will ask a friend or relative to make sure I get whatever broadcast is on in case of a delay, because you never know what kind of a wreck might happen, and it takes time to fix SAFER barriers or extricate cars from each other even if there's no rain in the forecast.<BR/><BR/>On the broadcast itself--I never had one of those 'geez, I have to turn on MRN' moments, so that in itself is a good thing. I admire Dave Burns' fortitude, but you'd think they could have switched the 48 team to someone who could talk (I get that they 'study up', but they ought to be ready to 'punt' if necessary.) But at least I knew he wouldn't ask how Jimmie 'felt'... I was glad they finally acknowledged Dave's voice with the 'valve spring' comment, that was funny.<BR/><BR/>As a fan of McMurray's, I'm bemused that he became part of the story...and fortunately today, they didn't ignore him...they even interviewed Larry Carter, that was a shock....of course, it was during the wreck delay...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-41979228452526765722008-11-10T10:10:00.000-05:002008-11-10T10:10:00.000-05:00I think it was horrible for them to swap the Playo...I think it was horrible for them to swap the Playoffs of Nascar to another channel with few laps to go. I have heard on Sirius that NASCAR is not happy. Then let the faceless nameless "NASCAR" who is not happy relay this to people instead of through unnamed sources. <BR/>I am just over this lack of respect by ESPN/ABC and NASCAR for the fans that pay the bills. Which is those that watch on TV.. I am done...E-Tickethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03373431350836360535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35726711278337007972008-11-10T09:59:00.000-05:002008-11-10T09:59:00.000-05:00As for the quality of the ESPN broadcast? Who care...As for the quality of the ESPN broadcast? Who cares? Dumping the end to another channel invalidated any possible improvement they may or may not have made. I finished watching my tape less than an hour ago and cannot recall anything about the quality of the earlier broadcast because the magnitude of the final error overshadowed everything else about the race.<BR/><BR/>As for the race start times, while I dislike late start times on east-coast races (2pm is just right because I can get home from church and make lunch without missing the start), it is completely ridiculous to criticize a west coast race for starting early in the afternoon west-coast time.3KillerBshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15972256857498433293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61208446929298166352008-11-10T09:55:00.000-05:002008-11-10T09:55:00.000-05:00Poor Dave Burns. I hope he gets well in time for ...Poor Dave Burns. I hope he gets well in time for next week.<BR/><BR/>I understand the technicality of a contractual obligation to move forward with programming.<BR/><BR/>I understand that other networks have handled similar situations differently, some better; some worse.<BR/><BR/>I also understand and am not surprised how ABC handled this event.<BR/><BR/>This is more than likely be an amazing historical event in the annals of NASCAR if Johnson takes a 3rd consecutive Cup home to Hendricks.<BR/><BR/>Something like that might have warranted a plan B on the event, if a plan B had ever been drafted.<BR/><BR/>When ESPN took over again, I pondered if they were going to do the same things they used to do when they had all the eggs in one basket way back when. I was surprised when they did / are.<BR/><BR/>When a scheduled college game ends on time, and then to preempt the pre-show for a 2nd game they jumped over to that was 95% over said it all some weeks ago. I can't recall the game or race... because I just chalked it up it be how ESPN handles this cash cow called NASCAR.<BR/><BR/>I can only hope that for however much longer ABC / ESPN holds this contract, that NASCAR addresses this loophole in their legally binding documents with ESPN and add an amendment to be able to provide excess coverage to events that run over, whereas ESPN treats NASCAR on a much more level playing field with it's other favored sports.<BR/><BR/>I'm ticked too... I agree with everyone on this fubar of a programming issue where an old, used up standard for television programming is held to it's time slot while NASCAR history was in the making.<BR/><BR/>I raised H*$$ when Fox messed up the earlier Phoenix race on many different fronts to the point that I got an email from someone higher up the food chain... But eventually, Fox seemed to care.<BR/><BR/>The bottom line, being an entertainment critic, is all about the advertisers, ratings, and the lead-in show on Sunday nights to trap viewers, keep them happy, and slide them into the next time slotted programming. AFV viewers aren't NASCAR fans and this is an unfortunate side affect from having outside pressures have the starting time pushed back to take advantage of ratings, viewers and other marketing demographics.<BR/><BR/>This economy sucks, and this may very well have been an affect from that with a hard lined approach to soothing the programming money.<BR/><BR/>Yes. It bites. Don't confuse my pragmatic observation with not being peed-off. <BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Bruce SimmonsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-60334620501616123122008-11-10T09:50:00.000-05:002008-11-10T09:50:00.000-05:00Dumping a major live sports event that way was utt...Dumping a major live sports event that way was utterly unacceptable.<BR/><BR/>You said, "Before a live sports event takes to the air, ground rules are established that everyone knows." <BR/><BR/>You <I>mean</I> "everyone who is a TV insider with specialized information about how such things are run knows."<BR/><BR/>If setting a time to dump sports off the network is standard practice how about letting the people who matter, <B>THE FANS</B>, know? Put it right up front on Jayski with the rest of the race information.<BR/><BR/>Some of us have kids and those kids have lives -- meaning activities and commitments. This means that we tape/TIVO our beloved races when there is a conflict. <BR/><BR/>IF it is <I>really</I> known in advance that a switch will occur when the race runs long then give us the time that will happen so we can set our TV's to autotune to follow. <BR/><BR/>You simply cannot use insider information unavailable to even hard-core fans to justify a network's dumping a major, live sports event in favor of badly-made clips of people doing dumb things. <BR/><BR/>When a fan misses the live sports event its gone forever. No re-broadcast later in the week can take the place of not knowing how the race will come out.<BR/><BR/>When someone misses a pre-taped entertainment show they know they'll get to see it in re-runs later. That should be what sets the broadcast priority.3KillerBshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15972256857498433293noreply@blogger.com