tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post2934003592171470431..comments2024-03-05T06:32:37.180-05:00Comments on The Daly Planet: Day Two: Is Showtime Right For NASCAR TV?Daly Planet Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-57260139689376894692009-12-11T16:52:24.337-05:002009-12-11T16:52:24.337-05:00How about the following hosts for Inside NASCAR: N...How about the following hosts for Inside NASCAR: Ned Jarrett, Stephanie Boyd-Durner, Randy Pemberton? ;)<br /><br />(For those that don't get it, they hosted TNN's Inside NASCAR in the late '90s).<br /><br />I've got Showtime on a 3 month free trial, but won't be picking it up after that, even for a NASCAR show. I've got a bad feeling this could lead to NASCAR Pay Per View.<br /><br />Also, I didn't get to add this to the last NASCAR TV comments because the comments are closed, so concerning the current TV deal:<br /><br />FOX- Leave it as it is. Can't complain really at all about them. Best NASCAR coverage out there. Chris Myers can stick around.<br /><br />TNT- Since I mentioned TNN above, if Ralph Sheheen isn't kept on as the play-by-play voice & ends up back on pit road, how about our old friend Eli Gold...? Crimson Tide football isn't going on at that point. It'd be fun to hear him back on TV again with NASCAR.<br /><br />No need to change anything else, I like TNT's coverage. (Nitpicky stuff here, though. Can we go back to Born to Be Wild as the intro music?)<br /><br />ESPN- Allen Bestwick to the booth, bring Mike Massaro back to pit road, find something else to do with Jamie Little or Shannon Spake. <br /><br />Please limit the amount of time ESPN can talk about Danica per weekend, because God only knows how much she's gonna be forced upon us each week by that particular network. It can't get any worse than 2005 in the IRL with Todd Harris & Scott Goodyear's droolfests over her...or can it...?<br /><br />SPEED- I didn't really watch RaceHub due to personal time constraints & lost interest once it became apparent that JJ had the title won. There's always next year.<br /><br />RaceBuddy- This. Feature. Rules. TNT's got a huge leg up with this, either as an add-on to watching the race or if you're sitting in an airport, etc. with no way of seeing it. I'd love to see ESPN or FOX find a way to make something similar.JSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-23182414057837597122009-12-10T22:11:54.695-05:002009-12-10T22:11:54.695-05:00I pay extra to get the Speed Channel and have a pa...I pay extra to get the Speed Channel and have a package that includes Showtime so I'm not so upset about this. I look forward to seeing this show. I can't knock something I haven't even seen yet. Would I pay to get Showtime to see just this show? Maybe order it for a week ot two to see how the show is, if it was crap, then I would cancel the Showtime. <br /><br />But like I said, I already have it, so no problem. Keep in mind though, I DID pay extra just to get the Speed channel. So I guess I would pay extra to watch something about my passion!Debbie227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9501067808343236812009-12-10T21:52:41.518-05:002009-12-10T21:52:41.518-05:00TW offering FREE Showtime for 3 months so I got it...TW offering FREE Showtime for 3 months so I got it. I like some shows because they ARE from the 70's or so, and movies were better. I get one SHOWTIME on Demand stations plus 8 more. <br /><br />Hardly watch it as modern stuff is crap, but I watch little modern tv shows. I will NOT pay for this when it runs out as we got rid of digital on one tv.<br /><br /><br />NASCAR on SHOWTIME? well, I find my interest dwindling.... If they want to take away from more viewers than on regular stations their loss. Guess the BIG SHOWS are crappy fake reality shows that are the money makers (I NEVER WATCH !!) <br /><br />Those that think 'so WHAT?' about it being on stations many don't get, have never lost a race mid race due to BSPN channel roulette.<br /><br />So, until NASCAR gets it's act together, and I don't see that happening, I don't care much anymore...ESPN made me lose my appetite and I found other things to do than scream at the tv. :(<br />I don't miss ESPN annoying me every weekend.Sophiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789033556426951026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-14046585197993108222009-12-10T19:41:20.951-05:002009-12-10T19:41:20.951-05:00i wish showtime nothing but the very best of luck ...i wish showtime nothing but the very best of luck with this new show. i won't be joining them b/c of finances but that doesn't mean i don't want them to succeed. selfishly, i could wish they had chosen a channel that wouldn't cost me more $$ to watch but, hey, it's a start, ya' know?<br /><br />i can't rake showtime and nascar over the coals for at least trying something different on this cable channel. not to go all "pete pistone" here but it's worth a shot. again, i hate that i can't watch it as well but i'm glad someone's trying to give nascar more air time.<br /><br />the more nascar on tv -- both cable, premium and standard channels -- the better!redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08469882559901586219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9889745317757931192009-12-10T18:56:44.138-05:002009-12-10T18:56:44.138-05:00This is yet another example of the France influenc...This is yet another example of the France influence. Cluelessness and being out of touch with the core fan is his hallmark. I have cable TV and a big screen HD for racing enjoyment, as well as 2 suite tickets for all events at TMS. This makes me a core fan, I believe, and I will not buy Showtime and run my already high cable bill through the roof. Bullhocky33Bullhockey33https://www.blogger.com/profile/15330750394198163776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-17314482677536798422009-12-10T18:49:54.893-05:002009-12-10T18:49:54.893-05:00I know nothing! (Sgt. Schultz)I know nothing! (Sgt. Schultz)Daly Planet Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834588435004023666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-49922804711013389772009-12-10T18:09:09.173-05:002009-12-10T18:09:09.173-05:00I just read something encouraging about the NASCAR...I just read something encouraging about the NASCAR show on SHO. They're going to use familiar faces from the TV partners. <br /><br />If this isn't the perfect vehicle for Jerry Punch, I don't know what is. A script reader's delight.<br /><br />@ Sgt JD Schultz, you got any insight on this? What about your other secrets you alluded to?Dothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15701502016993312530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-67486700525995453102009-12-10T17:59:26.688-05:002009-12-10T17:59:26.688-05:00This is fantastic news! I have been looking for a ...This is fantastic news! I have been looking for a reason to subscribe to Showtime and now I have one! Thanks Showtime and NASCAR!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-8972779417661696652009-12-10T17:07:13.806-05:002009-12-10T17:07:13.806-05:00Im not getting showtime just for this even though ...Im not getting showtime just for this even though I would love to watch this show! Im waiting for the day that we have a Nascar Network!!! Hey but im not complaining kudos to Showtime for respecting Nascar and giving the secound most watch sport in America the respect in deserves!!!! and stop complaining its not like we get enough Nascar during the season w speed, espn, espn2 and so on! You have nascar now and the hud everyday, TWIN, all the Thursday stuff when they show the older races on speed, then fri and sat we have all the qualifying, pratice and races so hush!!! I watch so much nascar during the season I can hang w not being able to watch thisJonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-35033030456685221842009-12-10T16:29:51.555-05:002009-12-10T16:29:51.555-05:00Why do you feel that there will be no more "N...Why do you feel that there will be no more "NASCAR video's" on YouTube in 2010.<br /><br /><i>TheDalyPlanet: Nothing is online due to the Turner contract. I hear YouTube may be off limits next season for all things NASCAR.</i><br /><br />Is Turner Sports really going to go and take all of those down? If this is true, this is a BIG story for NASCAR fans - and a reason to hate TNT....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-79428167434342138542009-12-10T16:19:56.245-05:002009-12-10T16:19:56.245-05:00Every show on Showtime, from Weeds to Californicat...Every show on Showtime, from Weeds to Californication to Dexter (all great shows, by the way), sneak in gratuitous nudity at some point. <br /><br />Danica, are you thinking what I am thinking?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-16783045271942979312009-12-10T15:40:06.754-05:002009-12-10T15:40:06.754-05:00I think that this is a trial balloon by NASCAR to ...I think that this is a trial balloon by NASCAR to see if there is enough interest to launch a NASCAR network.<br /><br />NFL has a channel. NHL has a channel, and baseball has a channel.<br /><br />If there is enough interest, we could see in 3-5 years a NASCAR channel.<br /><br />I don't have premium movie channels and don't plan on adding them, so I will miss out.<br /><br />That is my choice.<br /><br />I do hope that it is a successful venture.boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294840909356871860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-61751761646204801982009-12-10T15:24:49.796-05:002009-12-10T15:24:49.796-05:00JD,
Doesn't SPEED have right of first refusal ...JD,<br />Doesn't SPEED have right of first refusal on all NASCAR shows? If that's the case then hey too bad, they turned it down. Boo hoo people. Pay to watch it or don't who cares and if it's going to be so much like all the other stuff that's out there then don't worry about it. You won't be missing anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-15203627578908730702009-12-10T15:01:26.692-05:002009-12-10T15:01:26.692-05:00A couple of things that I find very interesting ab...A couple of things that I find very interesting about the reaction to this topic...<br /><br />1. I think this shows how upset a significant portion of the NASCAR fan base is over everything that has been happening over the past three to eight years. A show that, not all that long ago, would have been greeted with cheers and congratulations regardless of whether or not one subscribed to Showtime is now being seen as yet another slap in the face to the traditional fan.<br /><br />2. I also find it quite curious in how certain sectors of the supposedly independent NASCAR media cannot understand the anger coming from the disgruntled portion of the fan base. It is as if certain people want to solely blame the "complainers" for the downturn in NASCAR's popularity -- something that began long before anybody even though about the possibility of a severe economic recession. It is also as if they feel this portion of the fan base is not intelligent enough to know what it finds to be useful and entertaining. Such people should be careful of engaging in such elitism before losing all credibility and creating a situation that permanently puts us all in "Us vs. Them" camps just like with our current choices in cable news -- something that will be good for <i>nobody</i> and do nothing but, in its own way, continue to hurt our beloved sport.<br /><br />As for me, I welcome this show. I expect it to be a high quality product and think it will be another great step in gaining stock car racing more attention and general respect. However, I must also say that this will not get me to subscribe to Showtime even once I am back to working full time. Despite the quality of that channel's original productions, it is still basically a movie channel. Personally, I gave up on movies long ago as most of them these days are so poorly written and badly acted that I would rather clean my home rather than watch them. I just don't find adding that package to what is already a $98 per month cable bill (with no other premium packages) to be worth the expense. There's just too many places on the Internet to get reviews and analysis for no additional cost...especially since I am one of those "disgruntled" fans who finds NASCAR so predictable now that it's almost pointless to need further input.KoHoSohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457687879505057220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-19880995351537257132009-12-10T14:41:58.350-05:002009-12-10T14:41:58.350-05:00@annon 12:21. You misread my post. Never said I ...@annon 12:21. You misread my post. Never said I had kids, I don't. But, I know plenty of parents that complain the kids know how to use the technology better then them though. Including figuring out the codes. Had a friend of mine catch his son watching Playboy Channel. It was code protected. He figured it out. He was 14. Some base it more on general moral issues in general. Personally, I don't give a darn either way about what they show. What I tried to point out is some people do care. Some base it on economic issues. Either way, as JD pointed out, 13million people vs 80+million people as potential viewers. You do the numbers, it's clear to me. <br /><br />I'm old enough to remember when the Olympics tried ppv in the 80's. The viewership died, has bairly recovered actually. I'm leary Nascar is headed that way. This is a baby step in that direction. <br /><br />Interesting that Speed and Espn aren't broadcast in Canada. If that is correct that's ashame. I have several friends from Canada that drive down to all the races in Michigan. There fanatics about the sport.JohnPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-9901028127500140322009-12-10T14:36:12.355-05:002009-12-10T14:36:12.355-05:00the outrage at NASCAR is comical, sad and likely m...the outrage at NASCAR is comical, sad and likely misplaced. there is no conspiracy theory against core fans. the sport would never grow if NASCAR didn't market it to new people. and if it doesn't grow, there won't be ANY shows for you to watch on ANY network. so wake up: the world doesn't revolve around you. if there is a new show that you can't see, you will make it through, the world won't come crumbling down and the sun will still shine.<br /><br />still indignant? then chances are you should be mad at SPEED, ESPN, FOX, Versus and every other TV network. why? well, there's a good chance NASCAR Media Group tried to sell this show to those more traditional networks -- and guess what? all those networks may have passed on it! left with nowhere else to go, NASCAR Media Group may have then shopped it to Showtime. is that actually what happened? we don't know. but it could be. so don't get all hot and bothered when you don't know all the facts. NASCAR Media Group very well could have done everything reasonable in its power to get this on a more accessible network. but even if it didn't, that's its prerogative and its gamble to take. nothing is being taken away from you!<br /><br />plus, the full TV lineup for 2010 hasn't been announced yet. there could be more offerings yet to be announced on a network that's more accessible to you. so hold your horses, take a deep breath and be thankful the sport's profile has a chance to grow -- so more shows like this one can eventually be produced on more networks.<br /><br />(and for the record: no, i don't have Showtime, either. but i'm not letting it ruin my day...)philgoodstorynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-13757009999264137572009-12-10T14:31:48.132-05:002009-12-10T14:31:48.132-05:00to answer Anon 10:55 a.m. -- There is very little ...to answer Anon 10:55 a.m. -- There is very little NASCAR content that is for "free". I pay a cable fee to get ESPN and TNT, I pay for Trackpass because the broadcast coverage is insufficient in my mind to allow me to enjoy the sport ONLY by watching it on TV. I have a Sirius radio subscription that I also pay for so I can HEAR the race called by people who actually do that job, rather than the favoritism and unprofessional job that I often get with the cable TV coverage. So, please, don't insult me by saying "you just want to get NASCAR programming for free". Nope, I just don't want to have to buy ANOTHER package to watch an unproven show. I already made that mistake once when I bought an XM package and then NASCAR pulled a switcheroo by only having XM have the races ONE year and moving it to Sirius. I was pretty ticked off, but I wanted the races so I sucked it up and bought the Sirius package (which actually I liked better anyway). <br /><br />I will consider whether or not I can fit ordering showtime into my budget, as I'm sure a lot of other fans will, but not until I am sure that it is WORTH paying for. I guess NASCAR doesn't think it's worth trying to attract the MOST viewers, so unfortunately since NASCAR is going to put it onto a channel that I won't have an opportunity to view, it will be hard for me to decide that it is worth watching, won't it?GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-47731981352062933672009-12-10T14:13:31.843-05:002009-12-10T14:13:31.843-05:00Stupid, stupid,stupid, but when nas Nascar done an...Stupid, stupid,stupid, but when nas Nascar done anything that wasn't stupid. Oh ya, double file restarts weren't stupid. I cannot imagine paying for showtime just to see a one hour a week show about NASCAR. Dumb move Nascar, really dumb.yankeegrannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-78509508245531077372009-12-10T14:11:20.269-05:002009-12-10T14:11:20.269-05:00To the person who said this is just a first step f...To the person who said this is just a first step for Nascar to test the waters on new ways to show their product, I think they're totally correct. We're having a situation here in Wisconsin with Time Warner Cable. They have a new thing going on that says, "Fight or Give In". Basically, TWC is trying to railroad their subscribers into backing the company against higher rates from their suppliers. Everyone knows that this is a totally bogus promotion that will lead to changes in the basic tier of programming. What they will eventually say is, we've got to pay more for all these basic channels, so you either have to upgrade to a different service or lose channels. We've already lost a number of channels in our basic package, and we'll lose more. I just wish there was more competition between these cable companies, but where I live, we have no choice---it's either Time Warner or nothing.<br /><br />I really think Nascar is testing the waters to see if their fans will be gullible enough or passionate enough to pay for Nascar programming. If they see that's the case, I'm guessing we're going to see a dedicated Nascar channel or else we'll see the biggest races on a pay per view basis.Darcienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-34561551346016375072009-12-10T13:42:50.761-05:002009-12-10T13:42:50.761-05:00Shoot, I messed up. Since I don't have the pr...Shoot, I messed up. Since I don't have the premium channels I forgot there are no commercials so the advertiser part of my post is wrong.<br /><br />I'll stick to the rest of the post though. <br /><br />Just wanted to correct myself on the advertisers.JohnPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-74860160614527960862009-12-10T12:29:48.084-05:002009-12-10T12:29:48.084-05:00Count me in with the group that doesn't unders...Count me in with the group that doesn't understand the angst about a NASCAR program on Showtime. I say, it's about time! HBO started "Inside the NFL" in 1977. It has since moved to Showtime. When I cared about the NFL it was must see TV in my house from day one for 20 years. But if you didn't get HBO or want to pay for it, so what? It's not like there isn't other channels to watch NFL highlight and analysis shows. The same now for NASCAR. It's not like you can't go somewhere else to find whatever it is you are looking for. NASCAR analyis and highlights are very prevalent, to the point of nausea. All of them regurgitating the same pablum about the race we all just watched and the next race to come. So why not one more on a premium channel? Personally, I already have Showtime, so I'll check it out. If for no other reason, because it may not have a Waltrip on it. If it's good and gives me something that none of the others are doing (doubtful) I'll keep watching. If not, I don't have to watch but I will keep Showtime for the reasons I have it now. The Tudors, Californication, Weeds, Penn and Teller's Bulls*&% and of course the movie selection. Showtime is in the business of making money. They produce shows to entice people to purchase their channel. Some people will subscribe to Showtime for the first time just because of this show. You don't have to if you don't want to or can't. No one will fault you but don't complain when they produce a show you may want to see. From a practical standpoint I'm sure it won't be all that different from what we get now. It'll just be an hour of NASCAR highlights and analysis, but with out commercials and hopefully with out any buffoonery that we get on some other shows.<br /><br />Bucky<br />South FloridaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-75670130152648476022009-12-10T12:21:00.563-05:002009-12-10T12:21:00.563-05:0050 yr old fan...that's exactly what I've b...50 yr old fan...that's exactly what I've been thinking. For all the anger that people aren't going to sign up for Showtime to get Inside NASCAR...what makes anyone think that, however well done it may be, it's going to be that much different/better than what we have through other outlets? There are roughly 50 drivers or so, 50 crew chiefs, 50 crews, etc...and everyone wants to interview the same 10 guys. And yes, once in a while they find a little love for the 'forgotten' teams. But I can't see myself feeling like I'm missing something special or innovative...at least not yet.<br /><br />As for anyone thinking Showtime is somehow 'highbrow'...it's just a movie channel, folks...some people, even 'ordinary' folk, buy movie channels as a package because they'd rather watch movies than TV shows. And they buy it because they save money as opposed to going out to the movies, especially with related costs such as babysitters. <br /><br />JohnP...I don't have kids but even I know how to 'code' channels to lock them out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-27328951114343884822009-12-10T11:34:32.473-05:002009-12-10T11:34:32.473-05:00There is no constitutional right for you to see ev...There is no constitutional right for you to see everything NASCAR on OTA television or basic cable.<br /><br />If it became public that NASCAR Media Group turned down the Showtime opportunity, therre would be readers of this blog that would have attacked them for such a decision.<br /><br />It's very simple. If you want to pay to see a Showtime broadcast, then do so. If you don't want to pay for it, don't do it. But at the same time, don't blast NMG or Showtime for making a good business decisiion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-38742483343091225752009-12-10T11:22:42.322-05:002009-12-10T11:22:42.322-05:00I am also surprised at all the hostility about thi...I am also surprised at all the hostility about this. I applaud Showtime for showing interest in having NASCAR on their channel. I am not now a subscriber, but if my personal economy improves, I will definitely consider it. I hope the show does well, even though I won't see it.<br /><br />I'm not opposed, as some are, to the business model of paying for content. I became a SIRIUS subscriber solely because they got the NASCAR channel, and I expect there are some out there who will do the same with Showtime. It is just a personal decision each one of us has to make.<br /><br />I'm not much of a football fan, but I could be, if I watched it more. Do you think, if I complained loud enough, DirecTV would give me the Sunday Ticket for free, just to benefit the sport?allisongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2080132098367510832.post-17801456816923354362009-12-10T11:02:58.636-05:002009-12-10T11:02:58.636-05:00I've been thinking more about this -- NASCAR M...I've been thinking more about this -- NASCAR MG has the ability to do some really good stuff. I really enjoyed the show, Beyond the Wheel (at least the first year before it became so focused on the chase stuff). And I would love to see more GOOD NASCAR programming on TV, BUT that said, I am not currently planning to increase my spending on additional cable channels. I didn't choose to subscribe to Showtime in the first place because there isn't enough content on that channel to warrant the cost. Adding new NASCAR programming may well be a great idea and as someone said, it may be a trial balloon to see if fans would be willing to do a PPV for NASCAR. They would have to offer a great deal better TV coverage of the sport for me to buy into it. Several years ago (before chase and CoT) I might have been interested, but right now, the product I am seeing on the cable channels that I am already buying time to see don't offer enough reason for me to watch as much as I did. Why would I buy more?GinaV24https://www.blogger.com/profile/10828669350024430018noreply@blogger.com