The Sprint Cup Series continues the 2010 season at the Atlanta Motor Speedway. The weather is clear and the track is fast.
Chris Myers opens the FOX coverage with the pre-race show from the Hollywood Hotel. He will be joined by Darrell Waltrip and Jeff Hammond. Last week saw more disorganization and less of a focus on the stories of the race. Comedy and inside jokes are pushing this show in a very different direction.
Perhaps, FOX is again seeking to entertain the exclusive casual fan, but after three hours of hardcore NASCAR pre-race news on ESPN2 and SPEED, it's just not working. Myers jokes are not funny and there is very little focus. Hopefully, the show gets back on track after a rough start.
Mike Joy, Darrell Waltrip and Larry McReynolds have been working this weekend on SPEED. They have already hosted the practice sessions and qualifying for the Sprint Cup Series. As they transition from SPEED to FOX, perhaps they can keep the momentum of the week going strong.
On pit road are Krista Voda, Steve Byrnes, Matt Yocum and Dick Berggren. Atlanta has a lot of action, so the reporters will be chasing strategy calls as the race progresses. The leaders can lap quickly here, so keeping viewers updated on the field will be continually important.
FOX has Tony Stewart and Ryan Newman coming from the back of the pack after engine changes. The network has Dale Earnhardt Jr. starting from the pole. They have Jimmie Johnson seeming to be bulletproof. This season, Kevin Harvick and RCR have found themselves and are running strong. There is no shortage of storylines from the drop of the green flag.
Darrell Waltrip holds the key to this race telecast. When he keeps himself in check and acts as a good teammate, things flow well. When he gets emotional and goes overboard with his comments, things fall apart. TV viewers have seen him do both this season.
Atlanta is so fast that it does not lend itself to using the in-car cameras live until the field gets strung out. The low level speed shots are tremendously effective on restarts and through the corners. Restarts on fresh tires are going to be the most exciting parts of the race. We saw that in the Saturday truck series race.
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 595 of 595see JD fox seems to be taking baby steps foward today
Interesting lead into that commercial break. They used footage from Kahne winning last Labor Day, which was on ESPN, but then used audio from an old Fox race to say Kahne wins.
I wonder how Hoosier Tires would react to this track? Just wondering.
looking ahead, do you think there will be a commercial with 20 laps to go?
JD...no point of reference is exactly right. It's as if all they want to put on the screen is what looks "pretty" rather than what is telling a story. They are confusing fans whether they be hardcore 40-year ones like me or casual 2-year ones like my girlfriend.
Going to go do something useful, like make dinner since obviously my driver is having a terrible day.
That tends to ruin my enjoyment in watching the race -- I know, I know, watch the race, not the man, but boy that's really hard.
someone needs to just say screw it and take out Johnson. Why not whats the worst that can happen, you know how much exposer they would get??? Just a thought that entered my mind.
If #48 pulls this one out - TV ratings will drop more and more - as well as attendence at the track. There is really nothing compelling to keep steady interest.
Been that way for the last three races...
Wouldn't it be nice if we had a reference as to who is how many laps down right about now?
A Hendrick Motorsport debris caution.
Jonathan, the reason no one will take Johnson out is because you'd start to be like a gang-mentality. You take my driver out, I'll take your driver out, and it would never stop.
HMS only has one car on the lead lap now, right?
Jonathan, heck, if NASCAR wants a rivalry that would be one way to get it AND it would sure make me more interested.
If the 48 wins this race, I'm not sure what I'll do cuz it just hurts my heart and my head.
Just saw the new Kobalt Toolbox commercial. AWESOME. Same box I own & use at work. #nascar #TheSpeedzine "Kobalt 41" Toolbox FTW"
OsbornK:Once again I agree with you. I still wish to heck they would show a complete pit stop for whatever the three teams are in the triple screen. If Johnson wins, watch how they make sure there are enough people in Victory Lane to create "cheers" so it sounds as if the whole grandstands are cheering. Meantime, watch the background and no one is there in the stands.
Gina I hear you. Ill be honest I like JJ I do, but come on!!! COME ON! enough is enough already. the race has been awsome up to now, why??? jj wasnt in the mix but now he is. I will never give up on Nascar but ok here we go this will tell it all
wow I loved that finish line cam they had during crank it up. that was hot!
Crank it Up needs to go away. Finally get unbelievable racing for a lap or two and all we saw was a face cam of 130 lap down David Ragan and stupid speed shots. Terrible!
So much for the #88. One pole doesn't equal a "resurgance"
Same old story for JR
What did say earlier...Jr will let you down.... I know Hendrick is having problems...but still.
They just have not figured out what video to use during the Crank it Up segment. Need to decide on that one soon.
jaywpennell
Kudos to FOX for showing this racing. #nascar
BEER BATTLE
go Budweiser
theory on the commercial is with 10% of the laps left, so that would be around lap 34 or 35
Penske - #2, #12, #77 has something figured out at Atlanta.
Lurking is synonymous with sandbagging
That's for sure!
Truex in 10th. anyone mention that yet?
Can anyone update me on Harvick? He was the points leader the last two weeks, but apparently he drives a car that doesn't have a 48 on the side.
According to the pylon at the track, the number 3 is running 9th!
The updates are few and far between.
Still no information on the tire situation?
Is there a new person in charge of the pit reporters this year?
Thanks Mike!
Bevo, the Goodyear guy, Stu Grant, is actually in the media center talking right now.
Why he has not been on camera is anyone's guess.
Why would Fox report on an issue that concerns a sponsor, that might cost them ad $$$$'s
The last thing NASCAR wants is a tire war. That's probably why Stu Grant is not on camera. That would all but acknowledge a tire problem. But just like in years past, it's never Goodyear's fault.That's why I floated the Hoosier trial balloon half jokingly earlier.Arca runs Hoosier's on old Cup cars, so I don't see why it be a problem to entertain the idea of another manufacturer.
I know this is beating a dead horse, but the godaddy commercials are officially dumb.
Harvick is running 24th, 1 lap down, but he's not the first car one lap down so no joy there
Daly Planet Editor said...
Bevo, the Goodyear guy, Stu Grant, is actually in the media center talking right now.
Why he has not been on camera is anyone's guess.
to be fair: a no-win situation. if fox has him in the booth to answer questions about tires or give information, fans might be complaining about having that happen during the coverage. if they don't have him, fans might complain about fox not covering pertinent information.
in addition, they MAY actually report on what he's said/is saying fairly soon -- or not.
twitter's already given me the information from goodyear in re: various teams and tire wear and it's the usual answers: aggressive set-ups and debris.
the tires themselves? "nothing to see here; just move on."
For some reason Fox and DW think it is a Hendrick issue even though Darian Grub told Tony after his problem that most every driver has had extrememe tire wear.
PRN reporting Goodyear is surprised by - some- of the tire problems today.
Jonathan, my brother is a 48 fan so I have to put up with it and pretend I'm happy about him winning all the time. It makes for a sticky deal for us sometimes.
I don't really advocate wrecking people on purpose, but it would make me feel better if once in a while the 48 ran bad
Garry - Ann Marie the Sprint Girl kinda blew it on Race Hub this past week ... when she said that the 48 team was in & out of VL in less than 30 minutes and how they've got the routine down ... It's too old hat for them ... They've lost the thrill / excitement of being in Victory Lane ...
Haus, sometimes crew chiefs lie....
lol
red, but you owe it to the viewers to let the guy who provides the tires say his piece IMHO.
If Hendrick-Haas Motorsports adds a third team, err, I mean Stewart-Haas, I see Kahne going there. Pretty soon, it'll be the Hendrick Cup, as no other team can compete. NASCAR needs to tear down those cars the right way, not the kid-glove way.
and yet - LeTarte said they weren't running an aggressive camber for the car, so why the tire problems?
but as everyone has pointed out - it can't be a Goodyear problem. Everything is beautiful, no worries, be happy. Sheesh.
@red- It could very well not be a tire compound issue but a set up one. Race tires are not a simple thing to manufacture but not hearing anything one way or another from someone in charge is not good. It's pertinent information that we should here.
welcome back red. sorry your boy has had a rough day. i warned some folks tho on friday.
jd, do we know that stu grant is at all interested in doing that? did fox ask him to be on air? i'm just curious as to whether they asked and he declined because he's a busy camper or if they are just ignoring this.
but for me: with so many tires going bad today, grant would be better served to be down in the pits, trying to get some answers to this mess.
that being said: fox should be using their pit reporters to get the information FROM grant and get it on the air as "stu grant, from goodyear, just told me XYZ." and if he had anything to say in the media center, fox should have had somebody there to report on what was said.
regardless, i agree that tv fans should have the same level of information as twitter users.
Don't often hear me say this but: Need a caution! Kyle about to get lapped lol.
Montoya FUMING over lapped cars right now. None giving any room
tiamatsrevenge: Thank you for that info. That's pretty deep information to have. You wouldn't by chance be moonlighting in the sport? lol.
Where's the caution to benefit Sammy?? Oh, that's right ... He doesn't drive a car with a 8 / 48 / 24 on it ...
Why hasn't Jimmie had the problems that have hit the other Hendrick-Haas cars???
there it is. Caution
RaceTalkRadio just tweeted "No tire issues? Is Goodyear using Baghdad Bob as their PR guy today?" priceless!
Caution for Hamlin...blew an engine.
I need a Petty caution! Stat! Oh, what's the use. The Petty's have been cast aside years ago, ever since the big engine fiasco.....
@david: can't agree w/your assesment in re: the 88 focusing on qualifying & not race trim (if, in fact, that's what your speculating?). whatever this issue is, it appears to have little to do with that set-up and more to do with the build itself (ie parts, hub problem, etc.)
regardless, i'm still watching the race. just wish goodyear could give us some answers before this is all over.
If there are any more green flag commercials after this stop I will never watch Fox again...
Approaching 32-33 laps to go which would be 10%....Fox will be able to get away with taking the 10% to go commercial break with it being under caution.
Fox sure does love them some recaps don't they?
A recap? A recap? Why?
Red, my argument with some people was that there was plenty of time for the 88 to lose the handle between Friday and Sunday. Which they did.
Just because they went fast in Q did not mean squat about them being good for the race. That was what I was warning people of.
obviously from those camera shots of worn tires it's not just a HMS problem.
What happened to Hamlin?
hey jd? yellow flag, cars circling, no racing? THIS would have been the moment to rely information for goodyear, doncha think? they sorta tiptoed up to it but then, just as they could have gone into a bit more depth? "nothing to see here; move on."
Hamlin cut down a left front
I think Fox does recaps now, because they probably figure people are just now tuning in to see who wins....as they want to get those people caught up.
Not taking a commercial under yellow. That means they'll probably wait until there's 20 to 25 laps to go to take their last break.
LOL I was wondering why we needed a recap, too? filler?
Does the media even have a clue that people literally HATE Jimmie?? Why the overkill?? Other than the fact that he's driving the Kobalt Tools car ????
and THAT is why Chad Kanus is the BEST crew chief in NASCAR.
O.K. That's NOT the Petty Caution I was looking for....I'm loking for the one that BENEFITS the Petty cars. You know like a Hendrick Caution?
That was just weird.
Looking :Sp.
A Bristol ad ??
thanks, David
Amazing that they try to sell Bristol as a 'high contact' track anymore. It definitely isn't that!
I'm guessing this break is the last one. At least they're doing it under yellow and not green.
Why are they still promoting Bristol as it was before it was repaved? Time lapse?
Same issue that bit them last year. Promoted it as the coliseum and it turned out to be two lanes wide all the way around.
We need 10 laps of green flag so we can have a green flag commercial.
These days Bristol has to work to sell out, just like any other track. It was a close call last August.
@MikeC- the problem with a recap is we have a tire issue that has not been addressed and a few laps left. Tires are going to be the main factor determining a winner. We don't need a recap at this point.
I love the new Bristol
JD, I agree. A car , no, two cars, spin out in front of the flag ,in front of 40,000 people, in front of NASCAR Race Control, nad it takes almost a half a lap to throw the caution? Were they waiting to see the 48 pass a couple of cars first?
Interesting that they have decided to put more SAFER barrier up to try to get back what they lost in excitement. They will have to scrap the cahse to make it like the old days.
Johnson restarting 18th - I say he ends up 5th
@tiamatsrevenge i don't hate jimmie in any way. i think that team is riding a crest and doing an amazing job and (as much as it pains me to admit it sometimes!) i think knaus is a genius.
what i am weary of is the fawning adoration that cause this booth to pretty much disregard any other team, even if the 48 isn't in the front of the pack. this having to keep an eye on the 48, focus on their every move and minimize the work being done by other teams is what infuriates this fan.
@david; still, i can't agree. i don't think they lost thehandle on the car. i think the mechanical issues made it tough to do the right thing for that car.
I've read this script before. Johnson pits, comes out 18th, someone miraculously spins with 15 to go, and everyone pits, Johnson stays out wins the race, Knaus looks like a genious, and Johnson invents the cure for cancer. Ad infinum.
They're pushing Bristol because it is not sold out as it traditionally is. They barely "sold out" last year and this year is much slower. There are billboards, TV spots, newspaper spots everywhere locally with promotions in an attempt to sell it out to keep the streak. According to a friend of a campground owner near the track, they are concerned about the soft ground in the campgrounds. We have had a lot of snow and rain since last year and the ground is soft for about 2' down. They are contracting with large wreckers to tow the RVs out. It is also supposed to rain for about a week before the race.
JPM is suddenly 3rd? What?
Jeez can't they cut back on the speed shots and show the racing? Brutal direction.
I'm getting weekly E mails from Bristol trying to get me to go back.
Harvick 14th on the lead lap
Stewart has a right front down.
Trust us Fox, we believe you're talking to the crew chiefs without showing us. Show the race.
No Hendrick cars in top ten...
Nice caution flag timing to take care of that last commercial break.
@david: can't completely disagree with your position on set-up/tweaking during the race issue. but if this particular issue was, in fact, a hub, i don't know how that can be quickly diagnosed or corrected in the race. sounded to me that folks thought it was "just the tires going bad" as others had happening. plus, there shouldn't be ANY reason to assume a hub issue.
that being said? there's something wrong in a deep way in the 88 shop, of that i haven't a moment's doubt. the driver's preferences for set-up and lines on the track are well known and i don't agree with some who said he's never been a good driver and/or he "forgot" how to race. is it the wing versus the spoiler? the cot itself? probably some element of both.
it's just not . . . clicking, ya' know?
After all of this time why can't Larry Mc say Keselowski correctly?
I don't think its a hub though red. I think its an excuse.
We'll see though. Jr can drive, he just struggles when that car isn't ideal which it has not been in over a year.
His ability to adapt is what I question.
COME ON JUAN!!!!!
bevo said...
After all of this time why can't Larry Mc say Keselowski correctly?
"rusty wallace school of broadcasting."
What the Hell??
WTF ??
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Payback ??
They call that 'light contact'?
wow.
Brad K: "Did i just fly?! I cant get out"
He is calm sounding
WOW!!!
The roof flaps and deploy and it still flips over? Something is very wrong with this car.
I bet Carl says it was an accident. as least BK owns up when he holds his line.
So much for Carl not being upset with Brad.............
Let's see Carl shake this one off....
what the hell does talladega have to do with this wreck?!
So DW and Larry are both talking out of both sides of their mouth. Before the wing was the best thing to happen to a race car since sliced bread, NOW, the spoiler will stuff again.
What bogus junk
The black eye is already forming on the sport. My email is blowing up.
If it stayed green - Montoya had a shot
Carl took out Brad.... a donation to Carl's Foundation will be in the mail on Monday!!! Way to go Carl!!!
Notice the Fox guys aren't so quick to cast blame on this wreck compared to the earlier one between these 2?
Again, they blame BK for Carl cutting down on him. And Carl just shoves the #12 down the track.
does anyone think the scoring is messed up with all of these cars some being 1 lap down, some being multiples? Things just seem off to me.
David said...
what the hell does talladega have to do with this wreck?!
that would be . . . nothing.
Mike Joy just made the point of all points - Edwards was more than 100 laps down.
Intentional
Edwards needs to sit out a race or two...
Kyle Busch radio: "I guess they are even now."
Kyle: "Who was it?"
Spotter: "The 12 and 99. Damn, that was big."
NASCAR needs to park Edwards for three weeks. PERIOD
That shot of Carl's gloves turning the car right said it all, didn't it?
Oh no this is the "NEW NASCAR" this is what they asked for
@scott w; you're entitled to your feelings but i have to say: that's not called for. a racer being injured isn't something to celebrate or reward.
@David and red- Everything. 99 should be black flagged
parking Edwards?? Hmmmm so much for letting drivers do their thing.
Wow. Nascar is really going to do something? Amazing.
The bind Nascar is now in is that they had the whole marketing campaign about the letting drivers take care of themselves.
If that's what they want to market, they can't start parking people either.
We better get an Edwards interview.
ANON - you are right. NASCAR is in a bind on this one.
Carl getting parked is overkill in my eyes. The sensationalism of that wreck made it look worse than what it was going to be.
I'll take flack for it but that is where I stand.
There goes this race for Juan. pit crew has sucked all day.
Oh my god they missed EVERYTHING on that set of stops!!! What the hell was that Fox????
no bind, you can't be that obvious, plus 100 laps behind and him in 5th..this will be some points taken away, i'd say 100 point penealty
I don't think Nascar is in a bind. They said from the get-go that they wouldn't let it get out of hand. Abviously wrecking another car isn't what they had in mind.
So much for pretty boy Carl's clean image.
Sent to Scotts website:
While I appreciate your support of NASCAR, as long as you continue to sponsor a car whose driver is willing to put the lives of both another driver and fans in danger at the fastest track on the circuit, I will no longer be able to purchase your products. Thank you.
Get out of the kitchen Brad if u cant handle it
great interview by brad - carl you looked bad in yours
What a weak interview by Berggren, only one question and then Carl walked away. He should have pressed him more on wrecking him and endangering fans in the grandstands.
I apologize for the following language: Carl Edwards needs his ass kicked. At Martinsville? Sure, wreck anyone intentional. At Atlanta? Bull****.
Anonymous said...
So much for pretty boy Carl's clean image.
said it on twitter: i lost respect for edwards when he threatened to puch his teammate, matt kenseth, a full 1/2 hour AFTER the race.
and carl's interview should erase all doubt as to whether the move was intentional or not.
99 better be suspended
Carl was SUCH A JERK! I was rooting for JPM and now, things shuffled up due to this mess and late caution.
STINKS.
I'm back to can't stand carl again. UNCALLED for.
TIRED of cars flipping over.:(
Carl needs to be parked for a long time - he Smirked during his interview. He all but said it was on purpose.
what a jerk.
Sent to Scotts website:
While I appreciate your support of NASCAR, as long as you continue to sponsor a car whose driver is willing to put the lives of both another driver and fans in danger at the fastest track on the circuit, I will no longer be able to purchase your products. Thank you."""
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ur kidding me right??
I think the difference in them is that one wreck was obviously intentional. The others, not so much. and, Carl just admitted he wrecked him on purpose.
As far as I'm concerned, there is a time and a place for what Carl just did.
It's in Martinsville, Virginia
@amol: i believe mr edwards had a pressing engagement in the big hauler and was no longer available for the interview.
I used to have some respect for Carl Edwards, but no longer
I KNEW they would miss it with a tight shot.
I am puking - DW doing Captain & Tennille
Sorry for the distraction here, but Mark is unsponsored in this race? Really?
I always had a suspicion Carl was a bit of a bully (the Kenseth incicdent), and this just confirmed it. Like running into the side of Junior's car after the checker...with his hand out of the window. Don't think he really cares if someone gets hurt. Disappointing.
Wow! If I've learned anything today, its to just watch the last 30 laps. Much less fustration.
People, unwind your panties. It was an inappropriate thing to do, but if the car had stayed on the ground none of you would be worked into such an indignant lather. NASCAR will set the guy straight. If anybody has a right to be upset, it's the Penske fabricators. Incidentally, way to completely blow the ensuing pit stops, Fox.
Usually NASCAR's actions are all bark and no bite...I'll be really surprised if they suspend him. They'll do like they did with Kurt Busch a few years ago.....probably take his points away from today, and then fine him another 150 points....and put on probation and be allowed to race at Bristol.
@red: if he really needed to get to the NASCAR hauler, why do the interview at all? NASCAR could have easily said to Carl to come to the hauler immediately without interviews, and that could have been passed off to the network.
JD the answer about Bristol is what it always is with NASCAR - money. they know that people don't like the racing as much as on the old config with the old car - so the only way to SELL tickets is to lie.
stokely, that's the point, at atlanta at 195 mph you can't do that, you are taking a big risk of hurting someone, so the penalty should be applied as appropriate. it was beyone stupid.
DW - SHUT UP !
Im with Stokely. Brad getting hangtime was not part of the plan. Putting him in the fence was. There will be a long discussion which is probably already going on. It wasn't right but it happened.
As I have LONG believed about Carl, that IS the real Carl Edwards. Not the glitz and shine you see 95% of the time in interviews.
At least he didn't say it was an accident.
Race overtime..we had to reset the DVR..glad here to do it. had radio on until JPM was second...darn it!
Carl is now the passive aggressive bully FAKE. I smelled it years ago but that took the cake! He's show too many times his phoney colors.
OK DWs comment WAS FUNNY...put the dinner in the over, give me a belt and tie the tv down. LOL
Stokley, that's why it's uncool to intentionally wreck somebody--you don't know WHAT's going to happen, especially at 190 mph. What if someone in the grandstands had been hurt or killed?
People, unwind your panties. It was an inappropriate thing to do, but if the car had stayed on the ground none of you would be worked into such an indignant lather. NASCAR will set the guy straight. If anybody has a right to be upset, it's the Penske fabricators. Incidentally, way to completely blow the ensuing pit stops, Fox.
+100
agree with u 100 percent
MikeC -
Can't think of many really suspensions, but Harvick actually got parked in a Cup race for actions in his then Craftsman Truck.
stokley, you hit the nail on the head. a slow mo shot of a car being sent airborne because of a design flaw does more damage to Carl's image than if the car would have stayed on the ground.
I'm a Carl fan and will continue to be. I'm not excusing the "tap" but it has happened before and will happen again. That's racing people.
Just like OJ - the white gloves turning right - great evidence.
@amol: i'm thinking dr dick (who's been around for a bit more than a few years!) knew EXACTLY where to stand to catch edwards before he hit the hauler.
and i'm pretty certain edwards didn't want to blow him off and then have dr dick get to say that edwards refused comment on his way to the hauler. edwards wanted his say BEFORE getting sat down in the corner by nascar.
but driving the wrong way down pit road after the wreck? pretty certain the boys were foaming at the mouth in the hauler!
if i'm penske, i'd start a car at one of the races just to take out carl, early in the race, pay one of the start and parkers to do it.
There are tracks that they call payback tracks. This is not one.
(by the way, my driver is sitting in 20th! love him but seriously? 20th in that piece of . . . ?)
NASCAR can't be too upset about the wreck, it's already the picture on their homepage.
coming to 1 to go
Isn't this the time for them to point out 'how much safer' the COT is? totally ignoring how many bad wreck drivers walked away from with the old car?
I agree with you, David. I always thought Carl's "aww shucks" demeanor was always on the fake side.
Bevo, i never said it was right. I know what he was thinking though and he was NOT trying to kill him. That is being dramatic when it was as simple as this: you wrecked me, I'll wreck you.
It was not the right thing to do. But I am glad Carl did NOT backpedal in his interview.
Well, they tried to wreck and give us another GWC finish, but thank goodness they didn't!
Wow. Junior must have had a great lasp lap...finished 15th!
Good for Addington... he's going to prove that Shrub was not all the reason for success over there.
Daly Planet Editor said...
There are tracks that they call payback tracks. This is not one.
true, true, so very true, jd!
I meant to just shoot him - i didn't mean to kill him...you can choose the action, but you don't get to choose the consequences...you have to live with those.
Should have thought about things a little more Carl.
david, the point is not whether he was trying to kill him, but on this track he easily could have, that's the point...in law its called attempted manslaughter
@Haus14...excellent! Well said.
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so who thought elder Busch would win before younger Busch in 2010??? anyone?
bevo (and others), like I said, the move was inappropriate, particularly at such a hot track. My comments were directed at the disproportionate outrage. People are getting more upset than they ordinarily would because the wreck was spectacular, which is just a coincidence.
Nice to see Paul Menard have such a good run. The guy takes more derision than anybody else in the field, and in large measure it's undeserved.
@Soloman - NASCAR doesn't run nascar.com, Turner does.
@David- Doesn't matter. Haus nailed it. Not being dramatic when you flip someone over doing 195 mph.
chris meyers comes through with some good reporting on edwards' past issues...
Why did the FOX guys keep saying Brad wrecked Carl on lap 30?? When the video shows Carl came down ON Brad as Brad was hugging the yellow line?? Sad, just sad ...
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