Sunday, November 16, 2008

Sprint Cup Series Final Race On ABC From Homestead-Miami Speedway


The NASCAR on ESPN crew is at the end of a seventeen race Sprint Cup Series TV assignment. They began in July with the Brickyard in Indy and now find themselves in South Florida to crown a champion.

While there has been a relatively short string of races on the Cup side, this same ESPN crew has been working the Nationwide Series events since February. The coverage of the Nationwide race on Saturday showed a very tired Dr. Jerry Punch who could not muster even a moment of excitement during the event.

As the final three laps rolled by, it was Dale Jarrett and Andy Petree who once again jumped-in to add a description of what was actually happening on the track. It was Petree who said "two to go" as the cars flashed across the start-finish line. After the excitement of the Craftsman Trucks on Friday, this was tough to take.

That is the Sunday challenge for the NASCAR on ESPN team. Keep the energy and excitement high for this final time as two races unfold in front of the TV viewers. While drivers battle to lead and win the race, Jimmie Johnson will be battling to keep himself in the right position to win his third consecutive championship.

In the Saturday race, the long green flag runs resulted in limited exposure for Allen Bestwick and the Infield Pit Studio crew. Bestwick will start the day with NASCAR Countdown at 3PM with a 45 minute show. If long green flag runs are again the order of the day, his crew may be heard more than seen all race long.

ESPN has again expanded the infield staff by adding Ray Evernham to the mix. That puts him alongside of Rusty Wallace and Brad Daugherty. Bestwick has to manage three opinions and personalities in every segment now instead of two.

The pit road reporters were frustrated on Saturday. Only once were they allowed to do a reset of the field and it was much shorter than needed. Jamie Little, Shannon Spake, Dave Burns and Mike Massaro have lots of information and just needed some time to relay it to the audience.

ESPN has changed the racing philosophy and now interviews drivers who are out of the race even though they are not Chasers. The pit road crew has become more in-tune with speaking directly to the crew chiefs rather than relying on scanner chatter and what they observe to offer facts to the viewers.

Tim Brewer was another participant who could have just taken a nap once the Nationwide Series race started on Saturday. Fast laps and lots of action on this multi-groove track left little time for the Tech Center. Long green flag runs and few engine problems on Sunday may afford Brewer another long rest.

Just as ESPN's SportsCenter has grown from two hosts showing highlights to a seemingly endless crew of talking heads offering opinions, this network philosophy is being reflected in ESPN's NASCAR coverage. This race will have twelve announcers all trying to contribute to a fast-paced live sporting event with no scheduled time-outs or halftime. That equation is perhaps not the best.

Keys to watch will be when and how the Producer integrates the various announcers and the role that the infield plays in the overall program. Which pit reporters have Jimmie Johnson and Carl Edwards will also be important. Look for just how often ESPN offers "up to speed" segments where the field is reviewed.

On Saturday, ESPN often went to the in-race reporter or inserted a feature instead of resetting the field after a caution flag and pit stops. This left the TV viewers relying on the silently scrolling ticker at the top of the screen for any information on the vast majority of the field. It was fundamentally poor TV producing.

Pay attention to how often Punch resets the field after a caution or a commercial break. This is the final race and there are a wide variety of reasons teams are going to be racing. Driver championship, Top 35, Rookie Points, Manufacturer title and many other issues will all be playing out on the same track at the same time.

Homestead is once again making great pictures and sound. With no grandstands anywhere but the frontstretch, this track has great camera placement and offers fantastic aerial views. Tough to catch for the Director sometimes is the long pit access road. Pit road, however, is great for viewers and the race off is going to be exciting.

The final lap coverage is always tough as so many things are happening at the same time. Race winner vs. Chase winner might be a tough call. After the final lap, NASCAR has a script that the TV network follows in terms of race winner first and Chase winner second. Keep an eye out for how that shakes-out live.

This is the final in-progress race post for 2008. To add your TV-related opinion, just click on the COMMENTS button below and follow the easy instructions. The rules for posting are located on the right side of the main page. Thank you again for taking the time this season to stop by The Daly Planet.

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Dot said...

Hey, a run down. How far will it go?

Andrew said...

$5 says this rundown stops before they get to 15th.

Daly Planet Editor said...

At least we are getting a field reset kind of....

soundsgood2me said...

Ceapock said...

I love guitar hero!!!!



mee toooo!!!! good job DR....

GinaV24 said...

I have the leaderboard up on NASCAR.com because ESPN hasn't given us any kind of a field reset. Why should I think they would do something different than they have since they took over?

Plus, Edwards looks like he's going to lap the field again,

Anonymous said...

ri88girl,

Kansas is better the Journey. "Dont stop believing...."

Newracefan said...

10 ONLY that SUCKS

Dot said...

@ andrew, did you peek at the script?

The Loose Wheel said...

The run of JPM over the last month is pretty impressive. Hopefully before the end of the race they will preview 09 a little bit and talk about teams carrying momentum into next year especially without offseason testing/preseason thunder.

Andrew said...

The future of EGR, people. :p

So we got to 10th. What a shocker.

Anonymous said...

I wish they had a nascar version of guitar hero...that would be cool.

soundsgood2me said...

Nice radio on Aric.... ESPN does a great job with the radio's, how do they get that stuff??

Andrew said...

dot, I did, and Almirola wasn't supposed to spin until Lap 154.

Jessica said...

lap 70, looks like evernham's caution predictor was pretty good

The Loose Wheel said...

Aric will get an earful by Brian France then.

Wait, i forgot. Mike Helton makes ALL the decisions.

Someone gamble with 2 tires early?

Labbie said...

Daly Planet Editor said...
Carry on my wayward son?

November 16, 2008 4:36 PM


@JD,

All my fantasy teams are Wayward Son Racing.

LOL

bevo said...

Caught the first 50 laps on MRN heading home, amazing how much more information you get about the cars than you do on ESPN.

The Loose Wheel said...

Interesting, JP's commentary didn't fit the picture. Carl's crew just carried on and JP says "yeah!"

someone needs to update that prescription i think.

Like ya JP...but your a wounded horse right now.

Newracefan said...

09 on lead lap, stayed out so 48 had clear pit out, he could have pitted with him would have gotten there about the same time 48 would have been leaving. Speed called this wonder if ESPN even noticed.

Daly Planet Editor said...

Infield out of commercial or in-race reporter?

Anonymous said...

I wanna see the crew cam already!!!

Anonymous said...

Doc actually called the spin, and he even sounded a tad excited, does he get the feed a few seconds before we do, or was he looking out the window?

I would really rather have a reset than the over the wall come on guys

The Loose Wheel said...

Why does the changer do commentary?

if the guy worked for me and did that, id fire him. Anyone notice the guys on the really good pit crews never have crew cams?

A tie game ends in the NFL...interesting.

Tie for the a cup championship anyone?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous polegrappinghook said...

I wanna see the crew cam already!!!

nice job grap....they listened....awesome stuff!!!!

TexasRaceLady said...

Do we know how Mikey got 2 laps down, and how Chad got one of his back?

I'm lost!

Anonymous said...

NICE call POLE!!!!

3bud said...

nrf I caught that yesterday on SPEED too.

The Loose Wheel said...

it was right in front of Doc...he better have seen it. Bet DJ tapped him on the shoulder LOL.

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Newracefan said...

I think Mikey had commitment cone issues, only because I heard spotter say something about 55 and grass but that is a guess, he was running bad before that

Vicky D said...

Just got home have I missed a really great broadcast so far?

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vicky d said...
Just got home have I missed a really great broadcast so far?


uhhh, no.
altho', i guess it depends on who your driver is. anyone other than the #99 and you're toast.

Anonymous said...

well at least they SEEM to be looking for racing

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The Loose Wheel said...

ESPN has focused on the 99 thus far.

Other drivers have a total of about 5 minutes airtime.

Haven't missed much. Carl doing what he has to, but so is JJ

The Loose Wheel said...

didn't we just come out of commercial or do i imagine those?

Dot said...

@ vicki d, is this you first race on ESPN, lol. No you haven't.

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bevo said...

Great moments in broadcasting- Larry Mc pronouncing Keselowski on the JJ channel :)

Anonymous said...

I think its been a good broadcast considering its a championship run, and 99 is winning the race. They are showing some mid-pack stuff. Im cool with it.

The Loose Wheel said...

The Ragan kid coming...will he get a mention?

probably not.

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The Loose Wheel said...

Wow, they actually gave him a shoutout.


looks like after a rocky start they are trying to get their feet back under them.

Edwards probably has the dominant car so they are going to have to find racing instead of hoping it finds the camera.

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TexasRaceLady said...

Gee, David Ragan got airtime!

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Daly Planet Editor said...

I wonder when they decide to turn the lights on? The ones at LMS take a while to warm-up.

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Anonymous said...

I cringe as I say this, but it seems to me that Brad has been doing a lot more of the rundown drivers positions and strategies talk like a pit reporter or dare I say PXP. They wouldn't concider sending him to school in the off season and trying him in the booth next year? In Nationwide maybe...

The Loose Wheel said...

countdown to debris caution.....

starting to see alot of single file racing in the top 10 in those rare glimpses of more than 2 cars in a camera shot.

Jessica said...

this entire conversation would be great on nascar now, during the race, not so much. what's going on with top 35? rookie points? the actual race?

The Loose Wheel said...

They are on already JD. you can see the reflections off the 48.

Anonymous said...

@david--yup...we'll all contribute to the script writing :).

They're just taking us through their stop. As long as they're not swearing or saying something inappropriate when they miss I don't see it as a biggie. It might be a good question if JD has a way of contacting DJC and we can do a Q&A with him. But they might do that mentally or verbally anyway. I do that with my dance and workouts, have the dance moves going through my head as I'm doing the routine.

GREAT! Now y'all have that Wayward Son song stuck in my head :p

Anonymous said...

again...paint drying

The Loose Wheel said...

Rookie points are a non-story since Hornish missed the race. Regan Smith can get it with a solid run.

Top 35...still early to discuss as well.

Time for a rundown though.

soundsgood2me said...

Thank you JD.

Dot said...

I doubt this is going down to the wire. Really? It's not the truck race.

The Loose Wheel said...

Battle for 3rd. Commercial break.

Wonder if we'll get a replay?

Daly Planet Editor said...

david,

We have been here all season and we know the NASCAR storylines my friend.

All of our readers can comment on any TV issue in this forum OK?

JD

Daly Planet Editor said...

np sounds, sorry for the hassle.

Anonymous said...

all that shot does is make me want to push it in already!

Newracefan said...

44 trying to pass 29 for 3rd and we go to commercial

Jessica said...

top 35....it almost like someone is reading this forum;)

Tracy D said...

David, I heard on the Speed Raceday that the rookie points are voted on by Nascar - it's not just points based on position at the end of the season. They didn't say WHO in Nascar voted,but wanna bet Hornish gets it?

BTW, wanted to say it's been fun being with you all this season during the races. JD, thanks.

Phathead said...

Not watching the race, but I'm surprised no one has mentioned that this will be the first time in the history of the sport that not a single ROY driver will score a Top Ten. Sent that lil tidbit to Jayski, but to no avail

soundsgood2me said...

Hey JD, no blimp yet..... Is it a sponsorship thing.?

The Loose Wheel said...

Only cars in the 99's zipcode this late in a run are the 44 and 20.

should be interesting if they bunch up with a caution.

10 or so laps from more green flag stops?

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't all these lovely conversations about who is going where be better for NN. How about a full field recap & tell us about passing on the track?
I know its happening cuz of Fox trax & MRN!

Tell the story on the track about the race in progress.

Daly Planet Editor said...

sounds,

The wind was howling here earlier, but I really have no clue.

The race is really suffering because the aerial shots from the track are great.

I am going to miss them after dark for sure.

The Loose Wheel said...

Rookie points are always a mess to determine. I remember back in 2000 when Kenseth and Jr took it to the wire. Jr won more races but Kenseth got the nod.

Phat. Regan won Talladega remember =p

Commercial again?!

What in the world is with this? I guess its prepping for stops?

stricklinfan82 said...

I find it very interesting that ESPN has not mentioned one word about the 01 and 15 leaving as part of the DEI-Ganassi merger, as it relates to the top 35 in owner's points.

Last year when DEI and Ginn merged NASCAR ruled they could not sell off the #13 car's owner points to get down to the 4-team limit, so those points simply went away and 36th bumped up to 35th.

IF (and yes that's a major if) NASCAR is consistent, the 7, 84, and 47 should all be safe. The only battle left should be whether or not A.J. Allmendinger earns enough points for the 10 to pass the 77 for 37th.

Even if ESPN isn't sure if NASCAR would change their stance on the subject, it's at least worth reporting as part of the discussion.

Anonymous said...

@ phathead

ROY? not smart enough could you enlighten me? thanks

TexasRaceLady said...

Does anyone else feel that the commercials are coming much closer together than normal?

Maybe they're cramming them in so we get some no-commercial time at the end.

I know --- I'm wishing on a star. *sigh*

bevo said...

Shannon did a good job talking about Harvick there. That's the kind of information they should provide when they do a rundown, not stuff about what happened during the week with the team or human interest stories.

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stricklinfan82 said...

I find it very interesting that ESPN has not mentioned one word about the 01 and 15 leaving as part of the DEI-Ganassi merger, as it relates to the top 35 in owner's points.

Last year when DEI and Ginn merged NASCAR ruled they could not sell off the #13 car's owner points to get down to the 4-team limit, so those points simply went away and 36th bumped up to 35th.

IF (and yes that's a major if) NASCAR is consistent, the 7, 84, and 47 should all be safe. The only battle left should be whether or not A.J. Allmendinger earns enough points for the 10 to pass the 77 for 37th.

Even if ESPN isn't sure if NASCAR would change their stance on the subject, it's at least worth reporting as part of the discussion.

I mentioned this as the race went green. guess its not important.

Anonymous said...

Just like most races this year with the COT, it won't get exciting until the final 50 or so laps.

Daly Planet Editor said...

stricklinfan,

I really do think it is too many cooks in the kitchen. The pre-race was a repeat of a lot of the 10AM NASCAR Now content (thanks readers) and really missed a lot of stories. Bestwick seemed almost sad.

In the race, we have heard DJ several times try to get the Producer and Director to go to what he wants to talk about and it has not happened.

As lots of readers have said, this is just lowest common denominator TV right now. It's a shame.

JD

TexasRaceLady said...

ROY == Rookie of Year

lordwilling said...

How do they get all those radio's? they can't listen to them all at once>>>

Phathead said...

Well aside from Regan :P

I went through all prior ROY candidates since they started giving out the award and there's always been at least 1 Top Ten by a contender.

Anonymous said...

@trl thanks, brain on pause due to lack of stimulation...oh look its the 99 car!

Daly Planet Editor said...

linal,

They all get recorded and the Associate Producers screen the content and turn it right around for air. It's a nice tool when used right.

JD

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3bud said...

texasracelady I noticed the same from early on ,wouldn't that be nice to get them out of the way now so we could focus on the race later.Yeah right, we know better then that.

The Loose Wheel said...

Gave the crews the extra man

Anonymous said...

Aha! the culprit has been unmaksed...its the Associate producer!....maybe not

Daly Planet Editor said...

Need a big reset here at halfway.

Karen said...

I want to see the decals on Smoke's car now that they've mentioned it.

The Loose Wheel said...

Something I like that is done on the radio and unfortunately isn't done on TV is having someone come in the booth as a guest. In this, the final race of the season a Brian France or Mike Helton should drop in and discuss this season in summary and the outlook for 2009. Given the bleak outlook for at least 15 teams heading into speedweeks it would be good to be addressed. Also, not everyone has SPEED so not everyone could hear from Brian this morning (even though not much was said)

bevo said...

Can't the pit reporters give information on more than one driver???

Daly Planet Editor said...

karen,

Wendy showed it up close including the one inside the cockpit if you taped RaceDay.

Jessica said...

wow, you could really see how dark it actually is in that pit road stop shot. ...

The Loose Wheel said...

Karen, if you go to NASCAR.com click on the smoke picture, or find that story and they show a decal representing the Daytona win in a picture inside the story.

Daly Planet Editor said...

Hey all,

Starting on Tuesday of this week we are going to be selecting the "best of" NASCAR TV for 2008.

The topics for this week are listed on the right side of the main page under the TV listings.

Hopefully, this will be fun.

JD

Newracefan said...

David a guest during a race, please no, we are having enough problems with no PXP after the race a totally different story

bevo said...

david-

I couldn't disagree more about guests in the booth. Put that in the pre or post race, not the race itself.

Karen said...

JD and David,

Thanks. I did tape RaceDay and will check out nascar.com.

Anonymous said...

@ David - heaven forbid! No guests they do not need another reason to not show the race on the track!!

bevo said...

It just sounds awkward when they come back from commercial with the studio guys

lordwilling said...

looks like it's getting dark...

Dot said...

Will we see the debris?

The Loose Wheel said...

No one says they would have to take away from showing the action. Done appropriately, I wouldn't see the problem doing it on occasion. Not every week though.

I imagine since there is no faith ESPN can show a race alone well week in and week out, asking for anything more is a stretch =p

Anonymous said...

LOL, dot, the prop guy forgot to plant it.

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The Loose Wheel said...

Radio reports, the weather is getting chilly. Jackets are out.

Should indicate track is getting ready for a major transition which means adjustments, comers and goers

Anonymous said...

JD is there something wrong with the web site? Every 10 minutes i cant make a post. Just letting you know

Anonymous said...

I really like the three box and long pitroad shot it works well.

Jr taking 2

Vicky D said...

I'm actually pleasantly surprised JP is talking about non-chase driver Reut even though he's in the top 5 racing order.

Newracefan said...

More then a feeling, High School it is

Andrew said...

Did they ever show the debris?

Daly Planet Editor said...

kenny,

Take a moment and register for a blue Google nick and you will be able to remain in the comments section when it is closed to everyone else. Thanks.

JD

Anonymous said...

Looks like the 17 is loose, how can they fix that?

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Dot said...

@ Andrew, no because there isn't any.

stricklinfan82 said...

Daly Planet Editor said...
stricklinfan,

I really do think it is too many cooks in the kitchen. The pre-race was a repeat of a lot of the 10AM NASCAR Now content (thanks readers) and really missed a lot of stories. Bestwick seemed almost sad.

In the race, we have heard DJ several times try to get the Producer and Director to go to what he wants to talk about and it has not happened.

As lots of readers have said, this is just lowest common denominator TV right now. It's a shame.

JD

November 16, 2008 5:16 PM


I agree JD. I've beaten the "simpler is better" drum here for 2 years now. As I've said many times, in my opinion Speed's simple approach to covering the Truck Series produces the best race broadcasts. And in my opinion the Fox broadcasts are much better on Monday rainouts when there is no "Hollywood Hotel" and the best Nationwide broadcasts on ESPN have been the ones without the pit studio, fancy video packages, and "scripts".

As I've also said many times I've never quite understood the logic of spending tons of money on these fancy pit studios / spinning sets, Tech Centers, gimmicks like Draft Tracks, and extra talking heads that really aren't necessary.

The Loose Wheel said...

Annon:

MRN just interviewed Truex and he is reporting the track is actually getting slicker.

An exact adjustment with this new car and a track moving towards a loose characteristic is rough to guess.

if they have a spring rubber in it, they can take one out of the right rear, or perhaps adjust wedge/trackbar.

interesting to see how they reset with guys trying 2 tire stops.

i anticipate a restart accident

Andrew said...

dot - What a surprise. Not. Silly NASCAR.

Oh, well, at least the restart should be good.

Anonymous said...

Is it a camber problem on the 17?

The Loose Wheel said...

Vickers alot of damage on that left front. no discussing it?

Jessica said...

what junior actually said was that he's never had a good two tire stop and that he was F@!*en stupid about them. Not real TV friendly;)

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The Loose Wheel said...

Told ya Vickers had alot of damage...there's what happened.

Andrew said...

Vickers, Kvapil, and Kurt Busch got together, it seems? But we only talk about one of them. Rargh.

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Daly Planet Editor said...

So, they missed the whole pit road deal?

Anonymous said...

JD - Thanks for all your hard work this season. Are you seeing delete keys every where you look today? ;)

The Loose Wheel said...

Yup. When they were talking about the top 35 they went to BV and I saw the left front had donuts on it and the fender was really wrinkled and wondered what had happened. That answered that.

Thats not good when you miss 3 cars getting together right in front of you.

Anonymous said...

JD--I look forward to the Tuesday column :)

@david--if they could prove they could show us the action *on* the track during the season then I might say "yes" to a guest. But somehow they seem to think showing tight shots of cars doing nothing, bumper cams & full screen driver pre-taped interviews during green flag runs are acceptable.

Anonymous said...

If they'd get all the cameras off of just Carl, maybe they would catch this stuff in the pits.

bevo said...

The Producer in charge of the pits is not having a good day to say the least

The Loose Wheel said...

gymmie--I understand. I figured that was the case a few posts ago.

Hard to have faith ESPN could accomplish that when they can't get fundamentals down.

Did they ever recap who did what on stops?

Daly Planet Editor said...

I take everytnng in life as an experience. These two seasons have been one of the best media experiences I have ever had.

To think that this little blog and the readers could become a presence in the NASCAR TV scene is amazing.

Last week Steve Byrnes asked me who stricklinfan was! I told you that what you say is a big deal to lots of TV folks.

JD

Karen said...

Obviously, a camera caught it. They just didn't choose to show it until Kurt hit the wall.

Newracefan said...

OK reset the field since we have no idea who actually pitted

Anonymous said...

they miss stuff on pit road, and one of the most annoying thing they do is not follow up when we at home can see a car is slowing on the track, or is doing something else squirelly. If I can see it and ask why so can they sheesh!

Anonymous said...

No - no recap David - but they got the Crew Chief challenge promo in

Anonymous said...

What in the world would they do if Carl was to blow his engine and drop out of the race?

We'd probably hear those 'crickets' chirping.

Tracy D said...

My goodness Allmendinger is having a great run! Would love to know what he's saying.

Vicky D said...

I don't think JP should be doing promos for upcoming shows - he sounds like he's reading a dictionary.

The Loose Wheel said...

Looks like Kurt's been to Bristol

88 came back in, address the power steering failure?

bevo said...

Got a Ned Jarrett clip on the Johnson channel... ahh the good old days of coverage :)

The Loose Wheel said...

I think Dinger is on 2 tires or stayed out. They ran low 20's at the start.

The Loose Wheel said...

if they did those full screen replays in live action instead of slow motion, it wouldn't be such a deterent.

Jessica said...

@david- he figured that he lost all those spots may as well come back and get 4. Once again it takes Foxtrax and scanner to get the whole story.....

Anonymous said...

@david--:)...didn't mean to overstep there.

@strcklinfan--w00t!

bevo said...

JD,

Byrnes does a great segment with Buddy Baker Thursday nights on Sirius.

I'm jealous of him asking about stricklinfan... does Pemberton ever ask about me??? :)

3bud said...

bevo, those where truly the good old days , coverage and racing.

The Loose Wheel said...

np gym. i see your guy's point.

Someone got the memo about showing battles!

The Loose Wheel said...

Byrnes does Late Shift on Thursdays?

They had Rick Benjamin doing it for a long while.

HUSH SHANNON! Trouble?! Where?!

Anonymous said...

@David 5:51 - from your keyboard to TPTB ears ( & they listen) ;)

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Anonymous said...

Shut her up rule number ONE of pit reporting shut up if there is something on the track unforgivable

Newracefan said...

Darn poor Marcos, I know it may be a moot point but am really afraid RCR can get their hands on one of the spots because of the engine program affiliation

The Loose Wheel said...

Someone tried doing their job and calling it. Shannon went on for a good 5-8 seconds after the initial call. Totally unforgivable.

Andrew said...

anon 5:56 - bitter much?

Well, this will certainly shake things up in the field. Several 2-tire stops, it looked like.

TexasRaceLady said...

I thought I heard someone say "trouble" and she just kept talking.

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Andrew said...

@ texasracelady - You did. Shannon was being silly again.

PammH said...

And we keep talking about TS when obviously someone in the background (DJ, I think) has said trouble. Just when I was gonna compliment them for actually showing some racing back in the pack. Or maybe it wasn't back in the pack. I have no idea where anyone is because they never reset the field!

Jessica said...

Dale Dale Dale, we could tell you were watching the track and not your monitor;)

Newracefan said...

foxtrax on for the lap count but way off for the position had the 48 22nd and he's really 15th. They really need to reset the field now, I'm clueless

The Loose Wheel said...

NRF. Stricklin fan mentioned it earlier about what happened with DEI and Ginn last year and if NASCAR is consistent, RCR wont be able to.

The organization can only have their hands on 4 cars (except roush) and to sell points they are essentially becoming a part of the team that acquires the points. Therefore Teresa would be listed as the owner on 5 or 6 cars (if they sell both) and NASCAR won't let that fly.

I imagine they will tell them to forefit the points but it may become a moot point because we may go to Daytona without a full field if people don't find sponsorship soon.

Anonymous said...

Zip just said thank god its the last frickin race of the year I don't believe this. Something went wrong on pit stop I guess.
espn won't tell us

Vicky D said...

JD - see you are having to use your delete button a lot today too.

Daly Planet Editor said...

bevo,

I think Rutledge asked about you, does that count?

Daly Planet Editor said...

I am a soft touch and I opened the door up to everyone again. Silly me.

Dot said...

@ David & TRL, I agree. Doesn't someone tell the reporters to shut up when someone says trouble? Whose job is that?

TexasRaceLady said...

I wish the booth would watch the track instead of the monitors.

Jessica said...

@newracefan - you need to give racetrax about 60 seconds after pit stops, it takes a while to reset. JJ in p14 now.

The Loose Wheel said...

i doubt im regular enough to get any fans in the tv world =p

Race is moving at a very fast pace...we'll have quite the post race hopefully

bevo said...

Gee thanks JD :)

david- he does two segments at the end of the show with them, Benjamin is still the co-host

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Vicky D said...

David if they don't have a full field, then what's the point of racing the twin 125's (or whatever it'll be called next year).

TexasRaceLady said...

Have we heard why Jeff Burton is so far back? What problems is he having? Where is the pit reporter and why aren't they doing their job?

Andrew said...

vicky - they'll still run the Gatorade Duel (or Twin 125s/150s as they used to be called); it's how they set the field, after all.

The Loose Wheel said...

vicky. Whats been the point since they introduced the top 35?

I love Speedweeks. I wish it was a full 2 weeks again.

I wish it meant something.

But my top 35 rant will come another time. if ya wanna talk sometime ill give ya my views on what they should do to get the field sizes back up for next season.

TexasRaceLady said...

Well, now we hear about him.

Tracy D said...

JoJaye, did you ever hear why Zippy was so upset? Any explanation from anyone?

The Loose Wheel said...

When? Today or at Phoenix?
PIR was because of the wreck. Tony got snippy on the radio and Zippy gave it right back to him. Its the relationship driver and crew cheif has sometimes =)

Dot said...

@ TRL, the reporters are doing their jobs. They just wait until someone yells trouble before they talk.

Anonymous said...

Tracy said...

JoJaye, did you ever hear why Zippy was so upset? Any explanation from anyone?

November 16, 2008 6:08 PM
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Yup had to restart MRN window - really bad pit stop / lost many positions

Tracy D said...

Today, David. Jojaye said Zippy was happy this was the last f***in race.

Tracy D said...

Thanks, Jojaye

Vicky D said...

David, what I was getting at is if Nascar doesn't have a full field at Daytona, how many people will show up for the twin races. That would be funny, but Nascar would "encourage" teams to show up for it. Grand Am racing is sounding better and better for next year.

The Loose Wheel said...

Ah. Long season grind. Addington said it the other day on SIRIUS, if your running well you love another race, if you aren't doing so hot you just want it to end.

They've had a bunch of miscues in the chase, its taking its toll a bit. They are calm on the radio now.

=)

Bumper cam on restart?!

Bad call.

Anonymous said...

@ Tracy - NP -my puters need rest after this fiasco of race "coverage".

The Loose Wheel said...

twin races set your starting spot, so everyone who wants to run will run. your right though. you'd have a mess of late entries and you will have guys go home but there may only be 30-36 legit cars with the rest just being there for the start and park money.

back to the tv...it'll be a fun discussion later on though

alex said...

I fell asleep about 70 laps in and just woke up. Is it still the Jimmie and Carl show or are they showing the race?

The Loose Wheel said...

alex. its gotten better. we are seeing action since carl's had a blazing fast car and jj has just been a 15th place car.

Pit strategy has things jumbled up though.

Sophia said...

wah!!! Daddy..I lost internet fora couple hours and have not been watching the race due to going to phone store to replace modem...miss anything??LOL

I heard Kurt B hit the wall on the radio in the car...now I am lost

Jessica said...

how much info am i supposed to digest here? ESPN is ticker happy -the allstate ticker with two colors for in the chase, the interval ticker which switches to the 'points as they run' and the race info ticker, the nfl ticker on the bottom and if they talk about a racer, his race stats on top. really espn?!

alex said...

Thanks David.

Those in-car cameras still bug me. IMO they're only useful to watch if a driver is having trouble keeping his window net up.

Illpolo said...

CAUTION = ESPN commercial

3bud said...

Caution out. Is it me or have we not seen Christy and Chevy?

3bud said...

Jr. not to happy with Gilliland

The Loose Wheel said...

Debris?

I had to step away and missed it.

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