The real season starts this week as the ten month grind begins at the Phoenix International Raceway. FOX starts with a thirty minute pre-race show, then opening ceremonies and race coverage.
Chris Myers, Darrell Waltrip and Jeff Hammond are first up. It should be interesting to see if FOX keeps the new smaller outdoor set used in Daytona. That put the trio out among the fans and gave the pre-race show a very different vibe.
Waltrip joins Mike Joy and Larry McReynolds in the TV booth for the race. Waltrip took away Joy's final lap call last week by talking over top of the TV veteran. We will see if Waltrip learned anything from the criticism he received or if he continues to be the primary voice in the booth.
Steve Byrnes, Matt Yocum, Krista Voda and Dick Berggren are the pit reporters. Unlike Daytona, this group should be busy today with tires, fuel and pit strategy being the big stories. We still have to see how long the tires last on a green track scrubbed by rain overnight.
While Daytona and the lovebug style of racing demanded wideshots and special coverage, PIR will tell the tale of whether the TV director is going to continue this style or return to the classic FOX approach of single car shots and in-car cameras.
The weather looks good and the scenery from PIR is outstanding. With some good racing, PIR has the potential to erase a lot of the bad memories of the lovebug push show seen at Daytona.
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here's the link I use - http://107countrypsk/com
btw, looks like Fox's production team didn't get their shot this year, they obviously caught ESPN disease ...don't know that I can hold out for TNT's 6-race deal ...not really interested in ESPN's return to Sprint Cup coverage, so this 52-year long fan may truly toss in the towel ...enough that networks abuse fan loyalty, too much that NASCAR condones it
Walter
Considering that DW is probably a member of AARP, you'd think he'd be paid to talk about it more. oh wait, it's not a toyota and DW only shills for them.
In other words, even more reason for wrecked cars to get back out on the track to serve as slow-moving chicanes.
Thanks, Brian.
Single car shots, commercial, promo. REPEAT
Commercials that are run during a Red Flag don't "count" towards inventory, so anything that is run during a red flag has to be run again, right JD?
Got a long way to go, hope they spice it up!
They should count, it's rain that is the big commercial issue.
I wonder if Horsey-Face is putting on his head-hunter hat.
This broadcast has been abysmal. I'm glad I was in Daytona live so the Fox folk didn't ruin it for me. Confused booth guys, too many in cars, tight shots. oh boy, it's gonna be a long season.
WHOMEVER it was that suggested Thundercountry THANKS. My Station in Rome Ga, is not streaming as well today for some reason of which I know naught
brad, sounds like post-Daytona letdown for the TV guys too.
w17scott said
..enough that networks abuse fan loyalty, too much that NASCAR condones it
Walter
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Walter gets the Gold Star tweet of the race. And it's early yet!
Shame NOBODY running NASCAR cares. It's truly sad for those of us WHO USED to plan our tv viewing AROUND the broadcast. Now we plan our housework/other stuff & catch highlights/comments online.
Brian France & TPTB of NASCAR should be so proud of their criminally bad telecasts!...insert sarcasm
:-(
I'm surprised the haven't mentioned junior for a while. He's back mid-pack, as usual...just as I typed that, they mentioned him...Pizza promo, of course.
I'm surprised the haven't mentioned junior for a while. He's back mid-pack, as usual...just as I typed that, they mentioned him...Pizza promo, of course.
No mention of Carl coming up to speed just ahead of Kyle.
By what I see on Track Pass, there is a heck of a battle for the lead between Stewart and Gordon. Wouldn't know from the TV since we're in commercial.
This is going to be a scramble with cars coming back on.
Getting close to changing the channel.
Carl? Oh yeah...you mean the Subway guy...
Wow...Montoya got a mention? Oops. Wonder how much longer Regan will have a job?
Ragan in the wall per MRN
What are they going to do without Subway and UPS?
hard hit for the UPS car -- I wonder if we'll continue to see the full screen UPS ad since the car is back in the garage.
Pretty much hopping around and trying to figure out what stories to tell. No easy task right now.
Actually this says something:
Johanna Long just tweeted that she has been for a walk on the beach.
Now think about that. A driver. A good one. Raced Friday. But today she is not suffering with the rest of us. SHE IS NOT WATCHING A RACE
It is cool. and it says something.
JD, they could try just calling the action on the track rather than hopping around like a bunch of headless dummies.
Ancient -- I knew she was a smart woman! i should go do that.
Got a point there.
A "through the field" would be nice. 14 is my guy, but I'd like to know who is back on the track, and who is unexpectedly doing well. Doesn't hurt to give everybody at least one sponsor view either.
This might be the most disjointed FOX broadcast I can remember.
Afraid David Ragan will soon be back pumping gas in Unadilla, GA. Roush can't put up with this much longer.
And to think that a while back they claimed that there would be less retarded rat on the screen. Seems to me that there's been more of it than ever.
If they have the post-Daytona blues, then Fox needs to consider having another team in place to do the 2nd race, if they are too tired to do a decent job.
LOL, sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes your the bug! That was perfect timing for that in car shot.
Harvick is running in 5th after being in the thick of the wreck. Nice of them to mention it.
Ummm #56 goes in P3 comes out P20... no mention of what happened to him on TV.
@AR - When I raced, I never left the track even if I crashed out. I stayed to watch, because it was my passion. It was a sport and competition, not a business. I was frequently among the last to leave. Now the drivers are the first to leave, especially when they crash out.
I believe that 2 lap crank it up may have been the best 2 laps yet. ofcourse noone was talking!!coincidence????
@erb -- I think they actually did talk about a left front problem on the 56 pit stop.
@erb That's a huge reason the broadcasts are so bad...so little information given that is useful. If they did that, there would be less time left for useless babble from DW.
gee, KyBu made a clean pass of the 39. I wasn't expecting that.
Bevo
It's so EARLY in the season too for such putrid races on Fox. OBVIOUSLY they do not care.
I miss having MRN in house radio or car so could leave house to listen....sigh...though grateful to find online.
A local twitter peep who used to LOVE NASCAR & Tony Stewart did not even watch Daytona 500 this yr. NO interest.
But hey, they keep changing the rules & "listening to the fans"..make me sick.
My cats could step on switches in the truck by ACCIDENT & show better camera angles...
gee are they actually showing some of the field? It's a miracle!
That's a pretty shot of the sky, but I'd rather see the cars on the track.
I'm not saying they should count. I remember someone saying in here that they don't count. Heck, most of us watch even when there's a red flag.
@KudzuCarl, I've thought the same thing about Ragan. If he doesn't have a miraculous turnaround this season, I think Trevor could replace him.
@Gina, as a JG fan myself, Nascar.com are aware of the radio problem & stated on their support page that it should be working again shortly.
@GinaV24
Ancient -- I knew she was a smart woman! i should go do that.
Yeah, but for her and me it aint no big thing. the problem around here is keeping that danged white sand outta your house.
Walking on the beach here is sumpin u du when u got nuttin 2du
And that is, oddly, why it makes it so special
Well, we are getting there!!
JD the question is how many people did Fox run off before they decided to actually shoot the race in a decent manner?
NorCalFan -- thanks for the update on SuperG's radio issue. I won't hold my breath -- it will probably be fixed tomorrow!
Ancient -- that's probably true, I'd have to go a bit further to walk on the beach, but it still sounds like a good option rather than dealing with the Fox-up that I'm watching on TV!
Thank goodness for MRN's broadcast.
Maybe it's me, but I don't remember Chris Myers being so bad. I know he recently had a personal loss, but he just seems out of it. This has got to be the worst race Mike Joy has ever called. I wish they'd all stop talking until something significant happened. Hard to believe we're only to the half way point!
How many cars left on the lead lap? Shouldn't that info be on the streamer? Never mind...it's too useful.
"Fox-up"
Sweet. Shoulda thought of that myself.
Nearly an Olbermannism
good grief, more commercials
Using the words "FOX" or "ESPN" with the words 'race coverage' is an oxymoron.
Can we all agree this is just a weird on-air vibe today?
Jd
Yes we can say that and I can say I just saw MW's hinie again on TV!
Larry Mac seems oddly out of it today. He didn't add much to Daytona either. I wonder if something is going on with him.
you would never know this whole on air crew has been together from the start just by watching. seems like they were just put together this morning.
yes we can say that JD
And I'm WAY beyong tired of MW rear end shaking commercial too.
Gotta admit, I detest all NAPA music adds.
Miss the letters to Mikey ones :) And where they spoke in them...not lame lip syncing.
Still listening to MRN w tv on mute while it storms around us.
Ancient - when I'm bored, I can get very inspired, although it isn't always in a constructive fashion. LOL
JD -- yep, strange vibe is probably the politest way of putting it.
Tony was told to pit and let the 48 lead a lap.
@KudzuCarl
Larry is confused and distracted as he tries to break Brandon into the big time. He is working so hard to get sponors for Brandon that he is really distracted. He is confused because his prominence does not/has not resulted in sponsorships.
Agree JD, has that last year NBC feel to me
Seriously? "Carl was in the garage long enough to have not one, but two of those (whatever) chicken sandwiches he likes!" How professional that was.... NOT.
Cathy
Did mike say Tony Raines pitted????
Maybe Larry should listen to last year's broadcasts and it might become more clear why he's not influential enough to get sponsorship for Brandon.
I have nothing against him or Brandon, but we know that sponsorship $ are tight as evidenced by the trouble that Stewart & Gordon had getting sponsorship money. So why would Larry think that a former crew chief and now broadcaster should be able to command sonsorship $?
could Krista Voda BE any more "thank you mrs Obvious?
just cover the stops without so-called 'commentary"
she is the worst
Bray
brad:
you're dead on about the tone of the coverage.
It's as if no one wants to communicate with each other.
Is something in the wind?
(Maybe they'll get rid of Mike and Larry and have all DW all the time...)
Makiki
Honolulu
Very wierd vibe today.
I am so impressed I went and cooked dinner & ate. Hubby is not even watching the race he is watching some hunting show and asks every 1/2 hour or so " gimmee the first 4 and wheres that 48?"
This from a die hard fan who got fed up. He said its just not worth the time.
word is the 24's radio feed is back up!
@GinaV, JG's radio is working again. Yeah!
24 radio on GinaV24
so they are showing us a pitstop while the pass for the lead is going on?? omfg...amateur hour here anyone??
It's almost like they are having a tough time getting coordinated as a team.
Thanks, Ancient and NorCalFan! and once again the MPD is pizza hut's fan favorite.
Maybe some of these sponsors that pay for the in-car camera shots could be talked into doing a sponsored shot from the blimp.
JD, too many chiefs in the booth.
Charlie, that's a great idea.
That is a great idea. The Subway aerial platform!
@Charlie...that's a sponsor I could support!
Hey oh, Just got here trying to catch up with all the buzz, You guys do have fun don't ya?, Just want to get my name on here cause this place rocks!
Mike
As for sponsor support, I wouldn't go to Subway if they paid me.
We get Digger
#20 blew a motor
we get replay
We're always told that if you're not running top 10, you won't be shown. Unless of course your sponsor also happens to be sponsoring the race and the TV network's broadcast....then we'll make an exception and show your pitstop even though you're in 30th place.
And we'll also mention what that driver's favorite sandwich is, too. Don't tell me those weren't paid for showings! lol
Even better, Blimpie Subs should sponsor the overhead shots...
Hi, Mike - welcome in! you missed the early crashfest.
I know i'm bored since I keep switching over to re-runs of NCIS during commercials, that means i've watched a lot of the shows that I've already seen.
@slander - don't know who Blimpie is but if it cuts commercials I'll go there!
am I supposed to feel bad for chaddy?
That looked like talcum all over JJ's steering wheel,
Mike, that's to mop up the tears he cries when he's not leading.
@Jojaye
U Sed: "We get Digger
#20 blew a motor
we get replay"
Yes, of course. Who could ask for more? You are watching TV
Me and, I think, Sally are wrestling with 8 ears 6 hands fourteen media sources and in my case 4 cats
Its racing. I guess
I've about had it. Time to fire all of the on air "talent", and just simulcast the radio broadcast.
I thought that it was baby powder that got on his car when he was following the 18...
Filling time Filling time, Yes GinaV24 you are correct, I don't think I've ever seen a steering whell powered down like that before, Nice to see him sweat a little bit.
I'm back. Getting too dark outside.
I'm guessing that there's been a lot of beating and banging based on all of the race tape I see. Beats me why the sport's best driver's can't go five laps without hitting someone.
For all the weirdness of the radio guys during the week, the radio certainly has a completely different race being run right now and focuses on exciting elements instead of just repeating the same leader-oriented stories over and over.
You guys know what I was trying to spell right?
Editor -
not sure of the cause, but local MRN broadcasts have gone to music 3 times today w/o explanation ...came back up after 5 mins ...radio coverage paints clear picture ...FOXcast becoming a distraction ...time to channel surf, I guess
Walter
Glad I've got MRN on. I'm hearing a great race. I'm seeing only bumper cams and in-cars and with no prespective of what's happening on the track.
It's pretty good racing when they pull the cam's back, Look's to me like the cars are really fast, everyone seems loose.
@Don -welcome to Fox race coverage, they cover the race with any thing they can find!
Have not heard from Mike(Detroit) this season til now. Good to have ya!
@Mike (Detroit):
Whell, I cahhn't speahk for ahhnyone ehlse, bhut I rhead it whithout a prhoblem...
just got back from 17 min walk.
did I miss anything? who cares?
will read up later & watch SPEED maybe
p.s. For Robin Miller fans, he's on WT w Despain tonight. allegedly as co host but that doesn't always mean entire hour (False advertising, been fooled before) RM recovering from pneumonia.
When JD starts posting our comments based on spelling and grammar accuracy, I think we're all in trouble.
I liked that shot they just had that was shot from the 1st turn down to the 4th. You could see the cars coming out of the corner and actually get an idea of the effort it took to drive these cars.
It's Almendinger in the 43 DW, Ambrose is in the 9.
I like MRN
I really miss RaceBuddy
AncientRacer I've been reading your stuff, I'm in stitches. Slander I read all your stuff last week was laughing so hard, tears, This place is known among the power's that be, They don't like what we say sometimes, I love it,
Severe weather in Nashville area has Fox local with weather info. But most of the time (last 20min or so) have had race in smaller box but no audio and I lost my race stream too
Hey, that was pretty quick!
Golf is over. Got the race on now. Was taping it but I think I am better off just watching then end.
FWIW, I've stopped watching the race...I'll catch the winner on the net.
Forgot that the worst part is my guy is leading!!!
What good is a split screen with the crew chief and driver running alone?
So, is going to be the day the Helmeton breaks the streak?
It makes me sick that Fox has turned one of the best pxp guys into a shill like DW...:(
had to go put out the recycling bins for tomorrow before it rains.
Did I miss anything good?
@Mike(Detroit)
Careful, you will give Slander the big head. Me, I am not subject or pervious to flattery.
i cant wait for waltrip and mac to talk over mike joy at the finish...especially if 24 wins.
Holy crap those Fox announcers are bad! Turned on the Fox audio and heard about crew chiefs and their collector cars, listened to chatty drivers who didn't provide any insight, and listened to DW and Larry project their opinions about what it was like to drive the car.
Contrast that to MRN who gave me updates on 12 different drivers, what position they were in, and whether they were gaining or losing.
Mark Martin...Dig Dig Dig Dig, what a racer he is...
@AncientRacer:
Too late...
@Don...and Nascar and TV can't figure out why fans aren't tuning in?
Just for the record, I told my wife that I want to cremated. Then, I want her to take my ashes to AMS and dump them in the 48 gas tank right before the Labor Day race. It may be the only way to stop this guy. Are any of you with me?
@ AncientRacer Yes I know but you've had me laughing so hard there were tears coming from my eye's I appreciate all of you guys very much.
But we did get one shot from the aerial platform! Come on folks!
With the big graphic about the driver and the ticker on top sure takes away the nice big view you get with an HD Tv. Makes your view so much smaller.
@KudzuCarl...that's the best laugh I've had all day! Thanks for that one.
They made the points system EASIER. I don't need it explained to me multiple times in the race. Thanks.
@ KudzuCarl You are the Man. :)
KudzuCarl
Man, you CRAZY!!!!!!!! ROTFL! :-D
@Kudzu thanks - we needed that!
@ Editor they think we are easy 1 shot wonders Ha!
Sally -
This is the first time I've turned Fox audio off and watched the race with MRN doing the play by play. I couldn't find a radio station that streamed over the net before. This one's from Alabama.
I'd forgotten what it was like to have someone actually call a race. Instead Fox has bunch of guys bull****ing about random stuff while expecting us to read the scroll while they focus on somebody's front bumper.
@KudzuCarl
I am not. You are just giving Chad ideas. He will figure out how to make that work. He is of the Dark Side
Damn Fox. Why don't you just add Motor Mouth Mikey W. to the booth and put me out of my misery. This is a mess......
If they show it, it's good racing going on, I think the cars are hauling butt.
they had a camera on the 29 car and saw the guy messed up taking the front right off and no one said a word
JD, I agree, I like MRN on race day. I dropped my subscription to Sirius when it ran out this year. They have been sending me "six free months" info ever since.
fortunately I can hear it on trackpass during the races. Since Sirius 128 had become so annoying during the week, I had quit bothering to listen much, it didn't seem worth the $ to renew.
I know we're getting down to the nitty gritty, but dirt knights is on versus if anyone wants to switch to it during commercials.
why did they not show the reason for the caution. I mean the car. I know they missed the beginning of it but they could have put a camera on the car that was involved right after.
Yellow falg , this is going to be painful, cut to pit stops.
How many weeks to TNT??
p.s. While mutin the tv which is back on, wish i could stretch that mutant colored garish colored ticker off the tv.
What a WASTE of my friends beautiful 52 in tv. Along with bogus bumper/incar/Zoom cams..but that's already been mentioned.
The ticker last week ended 1/2 inch from top of this tv...THIS week, an inch lower. What's next Fox? Racing behind the new ticker?
*sigh*
MRN should be carried in every city on LAND radio. I swear that would increase INTEREST in the sport. Imagine being able to work out in the yard/garden & listen to the race while enjoying the voices, pictures in our head & fresh air.
Seriously, year is starting off so ugly on tv :( Only race i loved was Camping Truck at Daytona.
Next one will be TNT IF Mike Wells is still allowed to run the truck
don't leave us, Kudzu, but I'd go with a way to stop the 48 - any way!
Where the heck does all this debris come from? You almost never see a debris caution when the Indycars are on an oval. Do fans just throw stuff on the track so they don't missing anything during a restroom break?
I said cut to pit stops,
Don...
"Read the scroll"? Sure you jest. I'd need a dark room and a black light to decipher the colors on this horrid ticker. Even worse on SD tv in my room..but not good on this big a$$ tv either.
C'mon Jeff!
If you want to stop the 38 here is how: A Joshua Tree wood wand from Oliivender's with a Phoenix Feather.
My Lord if you look away for 5 minutes you can loose the whole race. "Cut to pit stops" Hello !
Boy it would be nice to get a "through the field", too many cars not being updates or mentioned. Although I'm sure DW would interrupt that.
Yoops! I wrote 38 and I meant 48
Is "Rine Newman" related to Ryan Newman?
These boys in the booth are just out of gas. Period.
When it comes time for contract renewals, I pray that BZF can remove his head from his, er... coke-and-bourbon induced haze and award the Cup contract to TNT.
They make it enjoyable to watch.
Let us all practice now, shall we?
"Kyle Busch will win!"
and if not him then 24
Ancient -- the 38 isn't the threat! LOL (I know you mean he must not be named - voldemort in the 48)
I don't usually root for Jeff, but if he beat the #18....GO JEFF!
I'd rather that BZF took his head and went elsewhere and let someone who possibly has a clue to run the sport.
@GinaV24.
NO. Voldemort is the Crew Chief! Weasley drives the car.
Oh, I know you know that!
JD, the booth may be out of gas, but I have run out of patience with them, too.
Go, Helmeton!
Good Stuff, come on pretty boy!
WFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Showing Kyles wife over GF??? Crew member
EPIC FAIL already
Ancient - I always get that confused! thanks for the clarification. Please let this go green to the end!
Again, they mention close racing for other places, but don't show them. STUPID!
If Kyle can get the lead back I hope they waste another 3 laps showing slo-mo reactions of wives and crew chiefs. WTF?
I thought Darth was CC of 48 and Voldermort drove it?
Now I'm as confused as the booth!
Can I get the color job?
Editor -
not surprising, DW doesn't hesitate to compliment himself, "I've seen all day that 24 had a better car than he's shown" ...oops did I admit I had FOX audio ...like someone said earlier, look for DW and LarryMac to commandeer PXP at the finish.
Walter
That's right. show the leader all by himself while other racing is close. BORING!!!!!
@GinaV24
Looks like you and me, kid. First time since I have known you that it has happened.
I wish you the best. I wish me the better :)
Wow Jeff Gordan won a race how quaint.
Congrats! to al the 24 's fans!
Finally
For those of you leaving for dinner, please take a moment and leave your wrap-up of the telecast on our TV Police post.
We really appreciate your opinion.
And again we don't get to see the payoff...the rest of the cars cross the finish line. Incompetant Bas####s!
The worst finish line camera I have ever seen. They didn't even show anyone past Gordon. HORRIBLE!
how about 3rd on back???? nice Fox. real Fox. this may have been your worst broadcast ever!!
Betcha they interview Junior before Kyle Busch.
at last! finally they can take that stupid graphic down and pick on somebody else's losing streak!
I just scared the cats when i yelled at the TV
That is one ugly paint job on Gordon's car
Retro FOX: No other cars seen finishing after a muli-hour telecast. Wow. That floors me.
I believe that Fox thinks the ticker is like an announcer. If it is displayed on the ticker they don't need to talk about it.
Pathetic FOX, absolutely pathetic, some idiot in production attempts to stay but fails as Gordon gets out of his car, 60 howver many races they keep rattling stats, and don't give us the satisfcation of seeing his victory through...
ridiculous...
Hey Gina, bout time huh
Jeff wins!
Big Time Congrats Gina!
Don, right now, I LOVE that ugly paint job. Scarred up right side and all!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!! Finally JG wins.
Still not used to new car color! On fire! So they go to commercial as Jeff is climbing out !@!%#$!%^#$!#$!^#$
Thanks to JD and all for the enjoyable race.
YAY! CONGRATS JEFF GORDON. LAME of Fox to go to commercial so fix.
EPIC FAIL all day..that CLENCHED IT :-(
MRN still strong interviewing KB & now Ryan Newman
Ancient -- I know you wanted kyBu, but man, I'm so happy right now.
LOST MRN ONLINE :-(
RACE Ran over so guessing winner only interview...
Yep, they showed just the winner
but--
Dang JD. I think the listened to you.
Did you hear Mike Joy when he actually had to cue DW to talk after the checker?
You and the Planeteers Spoke, They listened.
That was not a fluke. That was an order.
The TV Police post is up. Please give us your race TV wrap-up.
Anybody else LOSE Thunder country? CRAP. They were great as FOX went to commerical for way too long.
Sophie....I did what what you said. I have a tv and radio in the garage. Cranked MRN while washing the car, straightening up, etc. Glanced at the tv only when something exciting going on. Great end of the race, glad to see KyBu in 2Nd.
Thanks, Ancient- I appreciate it so much man -- yes, Rich, it sure is. A year and a half is a long time!
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