Saturday, July 5, 2008
Saturday At Daytona: TNT's "Wide Open" Sprint Cup Series Race (8:15 Start)
This is always one very interesting race to watch on TV as the TNT Network once again unveils their "wide open" coverage. The Saturday night Sprint Cup Series race from Daytona makes for a lot of discussion when it is over.
TNT debuted "wide open" coverage last season with good results. Essentially, the network moves the screen around to allow video of the race to continue in some form during the national commercial breaks. The only time commercials run for the viewers at home is when the local cable systems insert their breaks.
The way TNT sold this to sponsors was the opportunity for them to create custom-made video pieces that will convey their messages to the viewers in a different kind of way. TNT will also add logos and animation elements on the screen during the broadcast, but the big thing will be the lack of full-screen commercial breaks.
TNT's pre-race coverage starts with NASCAR Live On TNT! hosted by Marc Fein. He is joined by Larry McReynolds and Kyle Petty on this one hour show. It will be Matt Yocum hosting this week's edition of The Pride Of NASCAR, as Yocum sits down with legendary driver Marvin Panch.
The NASCAR Future Stars feature will focus on Colin Braun, a young driver who races in the Nationwide Series. Lindsay Czarniak's regular feature this week will focus on Ryan Newman's crew chief Roy McCulley, whose wife is battling cancer.
The pre-race coverage continues with the Allstate Countdown To Green with Bill Weber and Wally Dallenbach seated at the TNT cocktail table in the announce booth. They will explain the "wide open" coverage that will follow at 8PM and will kick-off with a video from Tony Stewart, Greg Biffle and Jamie McMurray.
Even with the "wide open" coverage, TNT will still offer RaceBuddy for the entire event. This free online broadband service is available through NASCAR.com and features four camera angles and some interactive features.
This is the big moment for the TNT staff of this entire TV package. A lot of work and planning has gone into this telecast, which last season drew rave reviews. With Bill Weber and his announcers having a very good season-to-date, it will be interesting to see if the COT will provide the kind of racing that will create a memorable event.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 338 of 338Ken - yes hubby was wondering about the damage on the #20 car - and so far no one has said a word!
ok, so there's a glitch in the side by side: the #18 drops way down and we have no audio until he's at the back of the pack b/c of the commercial.
Did RaceBuddy really change to Harvick's in-car????? Wow.
Just totally blow away by this years coverage on TNT. Complete 180 from last year.
Look at that monster shot we just got of the front straight! The director needs a raise!
JD it changed to the 29 2 or 3 laps after the driver switch.
WOW two JGR teammates almost wrecked each other again just like last year
jd, i was wondering about the in-car as well. remember last week when the vote function was down? i think the switch to harvick may not have anything to do w/the #20 driver change: harvick IS one of the vote choices and so it may just be the time for the planned change.
i may be mis-remembering but, outside of the first race, i don't think they switched drivers, altho' it seemed that they planned to switch out at least at the 1/2 way point of each race.
Kyle
The director needs a raise and to be hired from NASCAR to do ALL the CUP races!!
Course, only if he wants the job. This is just awesome.
NASCAR is clueless if they do NOT understand how much better this is than 3 minutes of FULL SCREEN commercials every 5 minutes.
With the 20 car being such a big story and Harvick not a factor, I wished they had not switched.
Any mention of Reut he's way off the [ace
That was Pace
daly planet editor said...
With the 20 car being such a big story and Harvick not a factor, I wished they had not switched.
but, jd, the 20 isn't a factor right now. your choices are the labontes -- both of them, harvick, burton or yeley. i think i would have gone w/harvick as well.
JD-
JJ's not a Coke family driver ;)
The view switch vote thing for RB is broken. I think they just switch to whatever car is up front of the coke drivers.
AND BTW on Tony, he had to be given an IV before the race, so hes severely dehydrated.
does kyle petty always refer to his father as "the king"?
Okay, I've given it enough time and I've decided that I hate this coverage that TNT is doing. I much prefer the side by side that ESPN does with the IRL racing.
The TNT framing of the commercial is intrusive to the shot of the racing and covers part of the action. Also, I don't like the announcers doing commercials during the coverage leading up to the "real" commercials.
red said...
does kyle petty always refer to his father as "the king"?
Yes
red-
Kyle always calls him The King :)
I like it
"that's more sideways than teacups at disney." now THAT'S a great line.
Gotta Love Kyle Petty. The guy is very funny, and is very knowledgeable
Reut on pit road for 5 laps and now 00 off the pace.
Catch Marty Snider calling him "Weber"???
Green Flag stops coming up. (maybe)
This will be a true test for the TV crew and the way they filter in these commercials.
Interesting to see if they use a split screen for green flag stops.
Really nice coverage so far TNT !!
that was a FUNNY line by KP..got a great laugh out of weber that seemed genuine, too.
:)
I will take this over side by side for IRL any day. IRL is so tiny and hear, the racing is still easier to see around the adds on my old fashioned tv's. we love it in this house and we watch IRL.
also like somebody else said I will take the GOOD VISUALS anyday and that helps to over look comments about adds. I personally LOVE this coverage...but to me, camera work is the main deal. Otherwise, it's just radio with bad followup.;-0
hey jd? looking ahead: do we know who's doing the jack daniels post race this week? same two guys as last week? (of course, i'm more likely to switch to espn news.)
hahah love Elliot on RB, he stuck out his thumb to hitch hike from the ambulance.
oh, GOSH! I forgot all about the JD debacle!! Tonight is going so well..can't imagine those slobs online to erase the great TNT TV coverage and their pictures as they fly through the air.
red-
I got a reply from Jack Daniel's and it didn't sound like they were too concerned about their choice of hosts. Too bad more people didn't take a minute to email them.
thanks, bevo. then espn news it is.
(and it sure looked to me like the #88 was speeding leaving pit road . . . and he's my driver!)
Same crew on the JD post-race show. I have spoken with both of them for their opinion about the online stuff for NASCAR.com.
ESPNEWS will also have live post-race coverage from the Infield Media Center, I have been "encouraging" them to add a field reporter for each race.
FYI - NASCAR Now will do a special show on Tuesday from Petty Enterprises for the 50th anniversary of the King's first NASCAR race. Shannon Spake on the scene.
JD
They're starting to talk about fuel mileage with Jr
YIKES! for Gilligan :(
bevo said...
red-
I got a reply from Jack Daniel's and it didn't sound like they were too concerned about their choice of hosts. Too bad more people didn't take a minute to email them.
July 5, 2008 10:06 PM
You got the kiss off form letter email too huh?
You can hear the track PA on the 88 HotPass audio
bevo said...
They're starting to talk about fuel mileage with Jr
i'll put money on more yellows and that'll take care of fuel. he has been racing hard up front tonight.
jo-
Yep. And today when I picked up a bottle guess which brand I didn't buy
JD
Thanks for the updates about NN
Infield care must be packed Tonys on IVs in there for the rest of race. Now Elliott, and heaven knows who else.
Wow still lots of empty seats. Thought they'd fill up after the race started. Let people move down.
This entire shows seems like a commercial. Sure it is better to turn off the awful audio. But instead of spaced out commercials, it is just one over hyped commercial.
Soccer does a much better job that these wannabe's at TNT.
BTW, what's up with some of the cameras looking underexposed in the blacks?
I was out of the room for a few minutes and missed out what happened to Kenseth. I'm on tech overload tonight.
Jo Higher os better at Daytona can see more of the track (Have a friend who goes every Feb)
and so i guess the 88 will be ok on fuel now . . .
Great camera work showing cars driving away from wreck and onto pit road! Great job from director & camera men
Kinda neat shot out of the 31 car in the spin,changed the tear off for him in mid spin.
jo,
People actually sit "up" at Daytona. The higher the better because of the size of the track. Lots of the lower tickets are give-a-ways from radio stations and promotional things.
JD
Newracefan said...
Jo Higher os better at Daytona can see more of the track (Have a friend who goes every Feb)
July 5, 2008 10:20 PM
We used to also I thought hubby was cheap oops guess he was right LOL glad I never said anything
I'm loving this broadcast. Just great jobs all around
6 and 11 took two tires
Noooo Gilliland :(
That's a shame.. RB caught it perfectly though.
All I ever cared about at Daytona and Indy are can I see & wheres the johns? I leave seating parking and such to the Boss.
Anyone listening to the TNT audio on Jr's channel? :)
Bevo What TNT audio fo jr? What's he saying?
Did you know that these camera people are the same camera people that shoot for FOX and ESPN?
sophia-
It's not Jr... someone(s) else.
Jo Higher = more money at Dover, I still go higher
Anon,
Yes, most of them are the ones that travel the circuit. They work for all the networks that use the common TV compound.
JD
Anonymous said...
Did you know that these camera people are the same camera people that shoot for FOX and ESPN?
July 5, 2008 10:29 PM
No idea. Is it the director that makes the difference? Big difference!
Nice save by McMurray!
See JD, there's an accident that could have been a multi car wreck and the TNT guys get excited. Meanwhile the ESPN crew talks in a monotone
Jo
yes, Director makes ALL the difference as we have witnessed this TNT season.
:)
Bummer for David Ragan. What a great guy he is.
bevo said...
sophia-
It's not Jr... someone(s) else.
it's being discussed elsewhere. thinking is that a radio has either been put down too close to the fans or somesuch.
i dunno. i won't pay for that service so i have to rely on others for information from it.
Great camera work of McMurray's grass slide - the guys are on top of a lot of these spins.
Enjoying the TV coverage so much that I spent more time watching TNT than Hot Pass. Looking for a good TV finish.
red-
Pretty interesting when they have a local break too
What happened to Sterling Marlin?
poor ryan!
I'm rather amazed how undersold the local commercial blocks are around here, you'd think that'd be good real estate for local auto repair shops and gosh knows what else.
How have other cable customers been? Lots of TNT or TBS promos?
I've watched more TNT than Raceview tonight with glances to RB. Yeley got the #20 up to 13.
Nice explanation of the 11 & 12 wreck.
Sounds like Jr is staying out again on Raceview - is that same audio as TNT?
We've had lots of local ads here in the mid-Atlantic.
Gordon apologized to Jr for passing him, he's really concerned about Shrubby behind him
wjere the heck is Yeley? I missed it on the crawl?
WOW he is 12th. cool beans
nrf, correct me if i'm wrong but virtually no local ads here in comcast philly market.
Anonymous said...
I'm rather amazed how undersold the local commercial blocks are around here, you'd think that'd be good real estate for local auto repair shops and gosh knows what else.
How have other cable customers been? Lots of TNT or TBS promos?
July 5, 2008 10:40 PM
We got a lot of local Brighthouse promos for various services, and a couple local restaraunts.
hey bevo? i'd be concerned if the 18 were behind me as well!
i'd be worried about 18 also.
Red I've seen 2-3 truly locals that I can think of WW rafting and things car/car repair? related
Real nice work with all the graphics tonight.
looks nice and very quick with proper graphics.
How was tge random factoid on top 3 all time winners relevant to what's onscreen?
44 back on the lead lap
great SAVE by J.J. in the 20
great save by yeley after getting hit by ragan.
WOW what a save by Yeley
Way to go JJ!!
Feel bad for Jeff Burton
i agree with the booth: great job in the replays!
How about that....
anyone catch those "dissolves" from shot to shot, VS. cut shots ??
Very nice use of the dissolves !!
Things are getting intense
Local cable companies are not used to selling a lot of sports-related ads on TNT. They have the NBA, but mostly entertainment products.
Great telecast, I hope it turns-out to be a good finish.
JD
"anyone catch those "dissolves" from shot to shot, VS. cut shots ??"
Well if you pay close enough attention you would see the director is only using the dissolves going to and from the chopper camera.
Ken-Michigan said...
How about that....
anyone catch those "dissolves" from shot to shot, VS. cut shots ??
Very nice use of the dissolves !!
July 5, 2008 10:56 PM
Yes its been awesome tonight. The racing is good so I've been watching TNT, with glances to RB
Other than Robby Gordon, who is on what age tires?
Dissolves??
me, too, jo. i usually spend more time with racebuddy but not tonight.
once again: great job so far, truck team. PLEASE keep it going right thru the finish -- mostly 'cause i don't want to hear folks complain about anything else! LOL!
Ya know you may not like the overall coverage. You might not like the graphics. You might not like the Wide Open Coverage. But there's one thing that anyone who has watched the sport for years can appreciate is that how well the on-air crew works together. It reminds me a LOT of the old ESPN when they'd make fun of Benny for eating all the time and stuff. First time in years I have found myself laughing outloud during a race.
Newracefan said...
Dissolves??
July 5, 2008 11:00 PM
Its when they have 2 camera shots "dissolve" into one another rather than cut from one shot to another.
If it happens slowly enough on the preview monitors in the control room, you see what it really does - crossing pixels.
Other than Robby Gordon, who is on what age tires?
He and Waltrip are on the freshest tires
Great save by Harvick
Mentor pushing protege on the high side
i believe this is the operational definition of "a hot mess."
"This changes everything . . ."
also adding to my previous commment, the announcers react in a lot of ways as actual fans do as shown by the Johnson wreck just now
yeley's earning his pay tonight!
great shot from the chopper!
Yeah! MW is in the front! lets go for a win.
phathead said...
also adding to my previous commment, the announcers react in a lot of ways as actual fans do as shown by the Johnson wreck just now
yep and i think that's terrific! hearing the same passion for the racing from the booth as i'm feeling at home is great.
Spotter just told Gordon that there are three Rousch cars behind him and he asked if they preferred Chevy or Toyota :)
red - precisely. Weber seems to have relaxed quite a bit, which is a nice change. Now I would LOVE to see Wally, Kyle and Mike Joy call a race together
Also laughing OUT LOUD from the crew. These guys are the best and having a BLAST.
Too bad they can't have the rest of the season. GREAT Chemistry.
bevo said...
Spotter just told Gordon that there are three Rousch cars behind him and he asked if they preferred Chevy or Toyota :)
July 5, 2008 11:11 PM
Jeff is probably just happy KB hasn't wrecked him tonight
Too many wall speed shots
Dang it !!!!!!!
Jeff is out
Listen to these guys! Sounds like real fans watchin a race
Dang wrecks everywhere!!!!
Who was ahead at the MOMENT of caution?
What a mess all my drivers. OK who won
!#!^!^!^!^!&
what a mess...but these guys in the booth have been a hoot and a HALF!!!!
looks like the 99 but scoring loops will decide.
Who won?
And the beer cans go flying
Ok...the difference between last nights announcers and tonights? who was more fun?
TNT kudos to your booth guys and the guys in the truck catching all this madness. EXCELLENT CAMERA WORK.
Wally and Kyle have been so excited and it's GENUINE!!!
wow
Dang it! I wanted anyone but KB
JJ did pretty good
Awesome race show tonight! Great work to everyone involved!!!
Even tho Tony was gone - I usually quit paying strict attention, not tonight.
I was going to say I have never seen a finish like this before. Until I realized I actually have.
2002 Indianpolis 500 . . . Paul Tracy and Helio Castroneves
Now I know how every one else felt when Jimmie and Jeff won everything last year.
What a race I wonder where everyone finished.
Man all of my drivers too..
Great broadcast.. best of the year by far.
i have a serious hate/love relationship with daytona international speedway.
but! mr mike wells and company, thank you for a job VERY well done tonight. replays were timely, camera shots were beautiful and i really enjoyed the race.
and wally? "this guy" isn't gonna win over this fan, no matter how many wins or how long he races.
Well I won't be going to JDshow for postrace I hope ESPN news has it.
Good race by all the crew tonight!
We need a better view of that last crash and a real running order before we go away.
Just real good race TV guys!!!!
Free Coke Zero anyway . . . somehow I knew the folks in Atlanta (home of both Coke and Turner) might pull that trick.
So, the ESPNEWS coverage of NASCAR is already on the air.
JD post-race next on NASCAR.com.
No Victory Lane until Sunday night after Speed Report.
JD
Thanks JD!
wow! fox trax can't decide on 2nd and 3rd place so it sure is fun watching those two spots switch back and forth! looks like it may be a bit before anyone can figure this all out and get it on the broadcast for us.
Speed, Speed, Speed... Victory Lane would be pretty good right now wouldn't it?
Kyle Petty isn't going to have to spend much giving out Coke Zeros. I don't think I've ever had worse pop and I won't drink it again even if it IS free.
red
I second your 11.21 post.
great coverage...SPEED really messed up not having VL tonight...zowee.
And TWIN will put this race off a week??????
But tonight was great...I knew it would be...wow, the contract for NASCAR should go to this team after they showed us how well they can really work together.
Good freeze frame through the clouds of smoke of the ending.
Thanks, JD. Been a blast tonight.
Great job by TNT, the whole crew should be proud (even Ed and his camera).
Thanks for the forum JD!
There is a new post up about the Sprint Cup Series race on TNT from Daytona. Come on over and offer your comments.
Thanks everyone for stopping by tonight and happy holiday weekend!
JD
Yea, it was great to go to a meaningless shot of fireworks during a winner's interview. And other meaningless shots of fireworks instead of interviewing drivers.
What a great director.
Count me out for NASCAR Victory Lane ... I'm not watching it tomorrow ... based solely on the "winner" and how NASCAR delayed throwing the final yellow to manipulate the outcome of the "race" to suit their own desires ...
OMG not this again. NASCAR throw it when the track was blocked by cars!!! what else do you want them to do?
Anon 11:32PM,
If that is all you have to complain about after a race at Daytona, I think that is not such a bad thing.
Guys, hold off on the conspiracy theories unless they have some TV stuff in them please.
Thanks,
JD
So by local break do they mean TNT/TBS break?
Weber's using a pharse from his old NBC days.
There is no such thing as a "local" TNT break. It would only be local if your cable (or sat) company filled it, and thses weren't done that way.
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