Three races to go and this may be the one that confirms Jimmie Johnson as the 2008 champ. The ESPN on ABC bunch is going to be facing a very high-speed track with multiple grooves and lots of fast-paced racing.
Allen Bestwick will start the show at 3PM ET with NASCAR Countdown. Bestwick will be joined by Rusty Wallace and Brad Daugherty. There have already been two races at TMS this weekend so it will be interesting to see if Countdown chooses to show Nationwide and Truck Series highlights.
The knock on the ESPN production team is that this stretch has been "all Chasers all the time" since the final ten races began. Today may be the litmus test of that theory as Johnson is in position to lock things up with a strong performance. Keep an eye on the topics discussed in the pre-race show and which drivers and personalities are interviewed or profiled.
Once the race coverage begins at 3:30PM, Dr. Jerry Punch will have 17 minutes before the teams take the green flag. Dale Jarrett and Andy Petree will join Punch to call the event. On Saturday afternoon, this trio handled the Nationwide Series race and ran out of gas long before the cars on the track.
This is the second season of NASCAR on ESPN and the network is looking like a group of outsiders. Racing action on the track is now pushed aside for Chase-driven coverage. Interviews and features are all about Johnson, Carl Edwards and Greg Biffle. Perhaps, there might be a Jeff Gordon soundbite thrown-in for old times sake.
It seems as if the reality of this bad coverage has put the ESPN group into some kind of denial. Unfortunately, anger is not going to solve the problem of never telling the story of what is happening on the track beyond the first five cars and the Chasers.
Even in the Nationwide Series race on Saturday, the ESPN crew could never pull-off a full field rundown and struggled to keep viewers understanding who was where and why. Today, with the double agenda of the racers and the Chasers running side-by-side that challenge will only be much more difficult.
Jarrett and Petree are again going to be asked to carry a significant portion of the play-by-play load as Punch has relegated himself to repeating car numbers, driver names and the most basic of information. It is only when he is sending the network to commercial break or reading a scripted promo that Punch regains the excitement that fans used to know from his NASCAR days in the 1980's and 90's.
The ESPN pit reporters are going to have to be ready to deal with a wide variety of issues. This is the time of the season where the casual words and happy chats are over. Tight tempers and drivers fighting for jobs will dominate the agenda in Texas. One too many questions from a pit reporter may result in some rough answers.
With only Phoenix and Homestead left to go, this Texas race is going to be the last truly high-speed and fast-paced live TV race for the NASCAR on ESPN team. A good broadcast will go a long way toward putting things right for next July when the group again takes over the Sprint Cup Series coverage.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 447 Newer› Newest»The comments about SPEED's F1 broadcast team are interesting - you're right, those guys are always exciting. So is the SPEED crew that covers the Grand-Am series. So are the SPEED crews that do pre- and post-race NASCAR coverage.
There is a common theme here.
This may constitute a blinding flash of the bloody obvious, but has anyone ever thought that maybe it would be a good idea to have the live coverage of America's most popular form of motorsport done by a channel whose raison d'être is motorsport? A channel with a name like, oh, I don't know, SPEED?
On Hotpass I just saw Chad Knaus look to the left.... and then, wait for it, he looked to the right! ESPN tape room, get that on film so the production truck can roll that replay on the full screen under green too. There must be a "hidden signal" in that crazy series of movements too!
@ Strick, you're killing me.
I've read all the comments and others have already covered all the usual problems.
What a mess!
Thanks for the site, JD.
We've been racing for 2 hours...have 2 more to go...it's going to be a long 2 hours.
Now I have some political guy in a TMS sweatshirt and Ryan Newman pillow...:sigh"
I'm curious what ESPN would do if JJ crashed and didn't return from the race.
They'd probably follow him to his motorcoach and watch him drinking a glass of wine, while talking about what he planned to have for dinner.
vickers lapped? car just that far off on the 2 tires or what?
Let's not give them any ideas...
You're a mess Strick!
Yes I love the F1 gang and the race was AWESOME! Literal edge of your seat to see who would win!
thank you andy petree
Are you still a phenom when you're laps down?
J.D.,
It was interesting to read Junior's quote that the season is too long. Guess he read your article this week.
From Jerry Bonkowski on Yahoo.com:
Foremost in his mind: the length of the season.
"We have saturated the market with race after race after race," Earnhardt said. "The NFL, they do such a great job. I hate to keep comparing to them and using them as examples, but they do the best job.
"They give you just enough to keep you wanting more. The season ends before you want it to. You get just enough to get excited and then it's all over and there's such a long wait. The model works."
Pacific Standard Time Zone Kenny
Alameda, California
that was my thought, dot. you should be at least on the lead lap.
This Jimmie Johnson story has them all in knots. Not the script they practiced. Notice how they cannot stay with JJ and actually tell the story for a bunch of laps?
43 cars still on the track. That is pretty good. If they showed something more then just one and two car shots you might know this.
dot,
Punch does the driver name, the car number and one catch phrase about each driver.
Watch for it and it will make you crazy.
lagano I think, won't live up to the hype next year.
Amazing how little ESPN has to say about the dominant driver in this race.
anon..what can they say? he is blowing the field away.
I keep going from HotPass to ABC/ESPN, kind of like seeing that guy pulled over on the side of the road your glad your not him but you want to see what happens to him.
Hi all, joining you late again. Can only take so much ESPN. Nice that DJ keeps talking up Reutimann, who is doing a great job.
JP you are breaking our hearts talking about JJ. Give us a break!
To the Logano comments.. I kinda feel bad for him. So much is expected of him, yet he's being thrown into this.. just like Casey Atwood was.
Dot, I'm not kidding, he really did! The movement was done at a slightly faster rate than what ESPN showed us on that last full-screen replay, so I'm sure all the crew members are well aware that he was trying to get a different message across with that particular hidden signal. ESPN has completely caught on to them so I think Chad's going to have to use the NFL coach method of putting the play sheet over his face at all times so his "signals" aren't stolen. I can only imagine what would happen if he sneezed, ESPN might faint! A Bill Belichick / Phil Jackson / Joe Torre comparison must be in the works here by ESPN pretty soon. What we've seen from Chad today with all those hidden signals on that pit box has been that brilliant.
Michael Waltrip could have a field day tomorrow with this manufactured intricate hidden system of signals angle ESPN has played today.
The coverage notwithstanding, this race is pretty boring.
I agree, Matt.
J.D.,
The only criticism I have of HotPass is the crazy way they display the laps. They start out with the actual lap number, and at the half-way point chance to "Laps to go."
Pacific Standard Time Kenny
Alameda, California
3rd round of green flag stops. If JJ can catch short runs, he will get back on the lead lap. If it keeps having long runs, he's dog meat. The car is horrid after 30 laps.
ESPN is confused. Its long green runs, with JJ a lap down and Carl leading...no shrub, no JJ, no wrecks to play rock music too...they must be losing their minds.
Anyone listening to the radio call? How is that going? Are they following the JJ story or just concentrating on the race?
Who is driving the car (black) with no sponsorship? Saw a brief glance of it...
I'm about to get a full field rundown on the radio. They are covering the race & the stories developing.
what's sad is that I won't like whoever gets the championship. All the guys I root for our too far back. Means I can skip watching the snoore fest awards show this year.
black car without a sponsor....probably the 01. the 38 and 28 both have sponsors since the 28 is white and blue and the 38 is flying the citi colors
JD, SPEED blurb by Punch for the CTS. Did you see it?
PRN is mostly following the race complete with a full run down. PRN has lots of Commmercials. Also today they lost their minds a couple of times with "if the race ends now the points would be..." but someone keeps saying "it won't end now" lol
OMG! Doc just did a Truck promo get out the dephibrilator!
Hey Carl, I think you can repay Reut for Memphis by slowing up and letting him win today.. just thought I'd throw that out there
Yep, that was a moment in time huh?
ok the young guns? time to kick out Kurt,Ryan and Carl. Instead put in Ragan,Lagano and Ky Busch.
Thanks, David.
Wonder if Reutimann would rethink bumping the leader out of the way today?
nah dont make shrubby a young gun!
i like the guy but he wouldnt fit that mold.
BK or dinger would work...perhaps reed
@ Matt, I'd rather see Reut get up his a$$ and pass for the win. Turnabouts fair play.
Tony just went lap down Jr is next. Time for caution. Bring out gum wrappers...cue the debris
Tell ya what, they better start to establish a storyline right now if they want to pay it off later.
All this car-hopping and scattered coverage has left things a mess.
Now, Punch is hosting a talk show and introducing soundbites under green flag racing.
more Roush?? Why?
I am getting really tired of Jack in a box
Is this THE most boring race anyone has ever seen?
lol @newracefan
Can Nascar get worse after this?
Wow, shameless Jack Roush promo inthe middle of a race? Sheesh.
15 cars on the lead lap. Yikes
ssshhhh anon yes it can. Someone on another site had a scary thought, when CK retires ABC/ESPN hires him for the broadcast team.
LOL i flipped over for a min & saw Jack & flipped back. Brad out Brooks B in as qb for cowboys
back to the 'conversational' approach to race coverage. sigh.
Anon at 6:02
It'll be interesting to see if Bevo says the race was as boring as ESPN is making it to be.
Jr a lap down. In line for LD when we get the "debris" caution.
Here is your storyline, #2 in points is putting together a masterful performance in pursuit of the #48 for the second straight week, racing their guts out. Meanwhile 2 guys hungry for a win are chasing him with superb runs of their own. Reutimann, McMurray and Edwards should be the storyline. Yes, keep tabs of JJ because your obligated to keep the points situation monitored, but it IS NOT your main storyline of the day. Its secondary to the battle for the win since the winning battle involves #2 in the points.
@ dot,
Haha that sounds even better.
JD,
Very little JJ talk on PRN. They're currently doing a field rundown, but all they're saying about JJ is "6th car one lap down". Most of the talk is lead lap racing.
A lap-by-lap summary of how the points margin between Johnson and Edwards has changed all day long huh? Let me help you with that ESPN, because the information you displayed there was erroneous:
Lap 1: +183
Lap 25: +183
Lap 79: +183
Lap 120: +183
Lap 200: +183
Right Now: +183
The usefulness of a "Points as of now" graphic can be argued, I don't mind them so much because it is nice to occasionally know how the points race will be impacted if they finish this way.
However, what I don't think anyone can argue about is how completely useless outdated "points as of now" graphics are. What does it matter how many points ahead Johnson would have been if the race ended 20 laps go vs. 65 laps ago vs. 150 laps ago vs. on the pace lap?
I just don't get that one, I'm sorry.
@david your new script makes sense. sounds like radio coverage of the real race.
I wish Bevo could check in with us to see if the track announcer is talking about JJ all race.
OMG I HATE THAT PHRASE!
"If your new to NASCAR..."
Shame on you AB!
who is Bevo?
No caution for Jr. He's being punished for saying that NASCAR manufactures cautions.
@ stricklin - TY (yes shouting with joy) your points explanation is dead on ! TY
it is one of the dumber things they have
BEST RUN OF THE YEAR????????????????
So I just turned the race on a few minutes ago and wondered why so few cars are on the lead lap? This isn't a short track race. Did a lot of cars get caught out by making green flag stops and then a yellow?
Next question, are the nonChase drivers running in the top ten getting much coverage?
Dale Jr caution...
Burton the LD. Jr just missed it.
@ dot lol true
@lisa - he is a regular poster here who is at the race
And yellow is out, jr should get ld right?
Have we ever seen any of the debris today?
dpe..not that i've seen.wasn't it fox that makes sure to show the debris?
AND ESPN goes to commercial during the next set of pit stops! WTF
gum wrappers , none showed on tv when I was watching
anon..guess they don't think the pit stops of the lapped cars is worthy of live coverage.
They showed a bunch of debris after the second caution.
@ Jo, no, Burton gets it. Someone in the tower was asleep at the switch. After watching this race, who can blame them?
@ JD, yes, once for gum wrappers. A guy was picking up a few things on the track. Too small for us to see.
They showed the track workers picking up debris earlier in turn 2going to commercial, but ESPN usually doesn't attempt to show debris like the others too often.
Anonymous said...
AND ESPN goes to commercial during the next set of pit stops! WTF
November 2, 2008 6:14 PM
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Of course its not green flag racing. Green gets covered, caution gets commercials! Its an espn on abc thing
Nice! And that was a replay.
Memories of Kyle Petty and TNT.
okay, ESPN KNEW what was in that clip and they still didn't edit it?!
I swearm if Jimmie left the race, ESPN would literally have NOTHING to say.
ok why does that guy pat CK on the back every pitstop? more super secret signals to Jimmie?
Ohhh Chad watch is on! sneekin signals?
Thanks Dot, bet theres another fast caution, for JR
they specifically said to listen to the audio...where was the edit? seriously.
Ya ever get the feeling ESPN does this on purpose?
Kyle Petty's was an honest mistake I felt TNT made...
ESPN is doing this blatantly.
Guess they told Kvapil to wreck to save Junior, huh?
jr got the ld - see? Its a plan
yes it is blatant on espn's part - the bait the driver/crew game has moved to Chad.Tag! or aardvark ?
God I hate that for Ambrose.
Elliott caused that one...something may have broke or he may have gotten jacked up off of 4 and tried to get out of the way
Oh my, how did Andy miss that hidden signal? Chad touched his face with his hand that time! Did you guys see that? WOW!!!!!! Oh my goodness, another absolutely incredible piece of footage there!!!!!!!
I'm embarrassed that my favorite sport is associated with this network right now. IRL fans, have I mentioned lately how jealous I am that your racing series is leaving ESPN?
I missed it.. what did he say?
Maybe Sadler slowed down just enough to get Jr in the lead lap. It was a great plan.
Is anyone else just a little bit lost as to who is where and why?
@ Jo, he just missed it again.
@ David, I know. This issue is before the Supreme Court right now. I think they're called fleeting expletives. Nothing fleeting about this one though. They told us to listen.
Matt, I missed it too. I've had the Mute button on. Only way to stand the race.
The word....s***.
Haven't been able to get to a computer until now, but did anyone notice the Bottom Line has said Hamilton won the Brazilian GP F1 race today? He finished 5th (barely) but won the World Championship...FWIW...know that probably originates in Bristol instead of the truck in Dallas, but found it interesting.
stricklin - lol you're killing me lol secret signals and mystery words
I missed it to ,don't worry it should be all over ESPN in some way shape or form all week long
The ticker isn't showing who is laps down. Like we don't know.
@dot I know MM got it - its just to funny it came that fast. Black helios start theorizing lol
maybe chad saying the word sh*t was a code of some kind.
Is this the most boring race anyone has seen? Any takers on which one was worse in the past 2 years?
Sarcasm alert*
Wasn't the cot supposed to give us better racing? closer finishes? save owners $$$? WOW glad its soo successful!
end alert*
@dot They do the same thing in IRL when Danica is down a lap. They just quit showing that hoping to cover it up.
crash
Montoya in the wall
Jeff Gordon free pass.
HUGE caution. Where's ESPN? I have a LUNA commercial for furniture.
Juan Pablo in the 10th position wrecks and Gordon goes to the lead lap and...
ESPN still at commercial
JPM wreck no cut from Commercial
This isn't the most boring. Try any Pocono race.
oh no a blank screen - what signal does that mean?
I think I've finally figured it out. ESPN is trying to get themselves "fired". They want NASCAR to dump them so they can turn around and sue them for everything they're worth for violating their contract.
They've done everything to make a mockery of this sport since they started covering it. It's been mocked across the board on ESPN shows, fewer and fewer practice sessions are aired on TV, tape-delay has been re-introduced to NASCAR on a full-time basis, races have been dumped to ESPN Classic, drivers and owners have been inappropriately portrayed in negative ways on TV, and on track racing has been ignored for scripted storylines.
Now today they're manufacturing this ridiculous garbage about hidden signals on the pit box DURING pit stops and blatantly alerting viewers to listen for inappropriate language to come across the air.
There can be no other excuse, this must be sabatoge.
Is anyone else getting picture breakup? I'm watching it on cable (Comcast) in Atlanta.
espn comes back to the pits at the end of stops. not only do they not show anything, they have no chance to actually cover what is happening.
this is awful. bad. espn is really really bad.
he hooked him! wow!
@bobin - yup Pocono races are the gold standard in boring
Wow! I hope they follow up on that and do not let the story fade. That is going to be huge.
Wow Gilliland.. I'm a fan but what's that about?
That camera was at just the right part of the wall to catch that replay.
I've been out for the last 40 minutes or so. Was that retaliation for something earlier?
driver of the 38 to the hauler office i bet. stupid on his part, dont care for DG at all.
We may not see Mr. Gilliland for the rest of the season.
How much does anyone want to bet that Gilliland says he got loose off 2?
that stinks for JPM..and of course they have a camera on them.... I HATE ESPN...leave him ALONE..he ONCE again did not want to speak...sheesh...no wonder some drivers used to get sent to anger management ..some camera guys egg them on.
glad he is ok
They've got to get the rest of the story on that!
Holy...there needs to be some serious follow-up with the 42 and 38 teams, as well as with the NASCAR officials. I wouldn't be surprised to see Gilliland parked for rough driving.
i like how thats a major thing and kurt busch retired...i get a chevy commercial instead.
thanks for covering the race espn. you suck
Think Gilliland in trouble that was just DUMB!
Who drove right in between wrecking Montoya & Gilliland? That, my friends is an Allstate good hands move.
speedangel,
I'm in ATL and the picture is fine.
that was really HORRIBLE....I used to like DG but that was unspeakable...why isn't he parked???
that's worse than what Mikey did months ago.
Control to Kenny Wallace . . . paging Kenny Wallace.
Available super sub job car #38
Didn't we see Michael Waltrip go on national TV and accuse Mr. Gilliland of doing the exact same thing to Michael McDowell at Watkins Glen a few months back?
8 NDF's...wow....He interviewed after all...wow....
Good interview by JPM.
Wish they would back that replay up about 15 seconds to tell the rest of the story
Alex,
Thanks. It happens from time to time. Guess it's time to call again.
Nice interview.. at least we didn't get the awkward 2nd question.
A shout out to Shannon for her pit reporting today - she's had a fine day.
HAHAH JPM on PRN says he should have wrecked DG since he would have gotten off better
@ Sophia, yeah, why isn't he parked?
Yes we did Stricklin!
And DG should be black flagged & in the hauler - I saw that on replay & he was just dirty!
Jr was really upsset about that hit. Said it looks bad for the sport & he doesn't want to be racing w/someone w/that mind set.
DG held for FIVE laps. rough driving
Junior is in 4th!! I am so lost.
FIVE lap penalty?! he could KILLED HIM! park him!
oh yeah the coverage hasnt been very good, i have the sound off and the radio on
Only 5 laps?????WTF????
R07? In a dodge?
Shannon, just shut it.
Isn't the R07 for a Chevy....nevermind, thank you Andy.
Parked.
Oh, NOW you park him...way to fail NASCAR
Guess Nascar decided to listent to Jr.
Smarter minds prevailed.
Anyone willing to bet Mr. Gilliland violated section 12-4-A of the NASCAR rule book. "actions detrimental to stock car racing"
38 parked got that in stereo & driver & CC to the hauler
Glad espn didn't ignore it
strick
I kind of remember that comment by Mikey on DG..you know DG always 'seems' to come off so sincere and apologetic..but he has caused too many odd wrecks that "looked bad"...and today took the cake for this dame.
Activity in the garage. JPM and Pattie went over to the 38
JPM and Brian Pattie visiting with DG. Pattie is very upset. - per PRN.
Parked, Jr scanner chatter not liking that move by David G.
Anon@6:44, im sure we're violating that rule as well
I don't think we have nascar radio station in Houston so I can't listen, it's very hard to keep track of the running order after a yellow, even with live leaderboard. ESPN please keep up with that!
PRN staying with THE story.
Will interview DG when he "calms down"
I'm a big DG fan but I think he should be done for the season.
Not to speculate, but does Menard jump over for the last 2 races?
What do you do when your stellar pit reporter says a Dodge car has the Chevy R07 engine in it?
You sit there silently until someone thinks of a tactful way to correct her, apparently.
PRN says discussion is on going in the garage between 38 & 42 drivers & CC
Oddball fact.
Shannon mis-spoke on the Dodge engine calling it the R07, it is actually the R6P8
better late than never they parked him. I am so done with DG and I tried to be a fan.
JPM should kick his a## and I never think like that. For Jr to say that on his radio...he got a better view than we did...he is right...Jr been profound in the last couple of weeks.
and of course espn ignores all that off track action, we want to see that stuff.
OK, need an interview with a NASCAR official, need an interview with Gilliland's crew chief or other Yates official - or at least an explanation that they tried to get that interview but were turned down.
Anon @6:48 I didn't know that about the engine either, but then again I don't care what make is leading either.
There wasn't much that happened, no scuffles or anything, just PRN staying ontop of a potential confrontation
@wickedj - yes indeed
I'm not sure this DG incident rises to it, but I know that in ice hockey you can actually face criminal sanction for excessive force. Its an uncomfortable question, but I haven't seen an incident that ridiculous in a long time.
lets give DG a hand..thats the old nascar we have been missing
Couldn't AB just accidentally NOT throw back to the booth when he gets the wheel again? Even for ten laps just to hear some real play by play.
Anon @6:48 I didn't know that about the engine either, but then again I don't care what make is leading either.
But it is a pit reporter's job to know this stuff.
lisa said...
and of course espn ignores all that off track action, we want to see that stuff.
November 2, 2008 6:48 PM
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That would violate espns mission of "covering" (up) the sport
I WANNA HEAR MORE ABOUT DISCUSSION wit JPM and DG...tv ignoring and my firefox crashed again and lost warp radio and now they are not talkingg about it.
Mikey should have an opinion on this on TWIN...I hope Mikey is on TWIN tomorrow.
@ jasnnn
It may be the "old nascar" but it has no place in the sport.
What DG did was stupid and uncalled for.
If they want to spin each other out under caution or get out and knock fists, fine. You dont hook a guy off of 2 at Texas. Thats asking for someone to get hurt.
lets give DG a hand..thats the old nascar we have been missing
Let's not.
Wrecking people is not racing. It is stupidity.
You reinforce the old stereotype that people just watch the races for the wrecks when you say things like this.
Sophia,
Mikey is in Cali tomorrow. It's Chad and a special guest on TWIN.
JD,
Any news guesses on who it could be?
both jpm and dg are dad's, how would DG feel if he had seriously injured JPM? try explaining that to your kids.
There's a headline on yahoo that NFL officials are considering adding more games - I wonder how Jr. would feel about that!
forget about petty talkin about the radio making stuff up. while espn was at commercial, the radio was exciting to listen to talking about strategy.
espn is a joke
They say they're staying on it, trying to get an interview with Gilliland - good, keep on the story!
david
agree..you don't pull such a dangerous hook drive so PURPOSEFUL...I agree, take it behind the garage later and don't risk lives and other drivers...and I am not into fighting but seriously...has ESPN MENTIONED any followup...what am I asking...of course not.
I gotta say these PRN guys seem to like their "Own" voices too much compared to MRN but I might just be too picky..PRN is a little "ESPeenish" for me.
speedangel,
Not quite yet.
JD
Oh, Shannon should have called BS on that one live on TV.
Gilliland feels "real bad...." yeah, I'll bet he does, because NASCAR saw that what he did was intentional.
I am sorry...I am not buying DG's story....at all
Thanks for the heads up Mikey is gone toomorrow night...I remember that now...need to have SCHRADER on for a real racer's opinion on a stunt like that.
David acting school in the off season. R07 LOL
dg says its an "unfortunate ending". give me a break...you blantly took him out!! putz.
"misjudged" his run off 2...
I was close to what his excuse would be...
It was payback. you could hear it in his voice.
PRN interview: same stuff as the ESPN one
DG was just a tad disingenyous there . . . and then Dr. Punch says "we'll let NASCAR decide"
Excuse me - maybe you should be "impartial", but DJ, Rusty etc certainly do not.
Blamed the spotter in turn 1, then he "misjudged his run" off turn 2.
-DG on PRN.
I wonder if DG realy believes his story of what happened.
Good - they got JPM and DG (who isn't a very good liar), now get a NASCAR official.
Oh, Shannon should have called BS on that one live on TV
Come on, John. That's just asking too much of her--for starters, she'd have to understand what happened to be able to do that.
DG "misjudged" ???
Oh, give me a break.
Boy, DG tap danced all over that one. One poster called it. Don't remember who.
It feels like DJ and Andy are loosing their mojo. This should be the best part of the season...and we all just want it to end.
I have no clue what is going on. Not the least bit sorry I went and watched a movie for an hour and a half. I hope that Twin does a hefty recap Monday so I know what happened.
JD...Shannon call him out on national TV?
Do you really think she has the credentials to do such a thing?
I wish they would have had a Massaro on this one or a Dave Burns because those are 2 guys I think that could walk the fine line between calling BS and yet still keeping it professional
um excuse me..how many people did dale earnhardt wreck on purpose??? are we sayin he was ignorant..no..im tired of nascar becoming the way it is..what happen to the tough southern guys??
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