The second race of the season for the NASCAR on Fox TV crew comes along from the Auto Club Speedway of Southern California.
Interesting to note is that there is a thirty minute overlap between the SPEED RaceDay show and the pre-race programming from the Hollywood Hotel on Fox. RaceDay airs from 3:30 to 5:30PM, while Fox takes to the air at 5PM for an hour pre-race show.
Chris Myers will start the Fox coverage by hosting Darrell Waltrip and Jeff Hammond from the infield. Waltrip will present an interview with Dale Earnhardt Jr. talking about the accident with Brian Vickers at Daytona.
Mike Joy, Larry McReynolds and Waltrip will call the action. Dick Berggren, Steve Byrnes, Matt Yocum and Krista Voda will cover pit road and the medical center.
Fox presented the Camping World Truck Series race on Saturday and featured Digger throughout the telecast. Expect Digger to play a major role during this California race, the event closest to the Fox Sports headquarters in downtown Los Angeles. Once again, Digger will be featured in a cartoon episode during the pre-race show.
This is a long and grinding race that is often won on fuel mileage. When there is an incident, it is often spectacular and potentially dangerous. Watch for the manner in which the TV team handles this type of accident.
One developing story is that five cars have moved to the back of the pack including the two that tangled in Daytona, Brian Vickers and Dale Earnhardt Jr.
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if that happens JD it will be because they lost this race. Then again I dont see ISC giving this race to SMI which is probably why we are put through this year after year. Maybe the egos will get set aside and NASCAR will do what is best for the fans and give the second date to Vegas. its close enough for the cali crowd to one day it and it makes Bruton happy.
JD @7:18
Maybe they'll get a clue and change this race date to Rockingham. (Wishful thinking)
Anon 7:20PM,
It's that McDonalds training I got in high school. I can still cook a mean burger as well. Just don't wear the paper hat!
JD
There is a story about Oscar problems on Drudge report..some chick said she is going to be blogging or most likely snarking during the show. Ouch.
Are the cars that spread out or camera work does not want wide shots? lots of one car focus and in car stuff.
Well, it is clear after this entire weekend that things are not working out.
Something has to be done.
JD - it's amazing to me that California actually has 2 cup races a year.
"Maybe they'll get a clue and change this race date to Rockingham. (Wishful thinking)"
um...no, as I west coaster, I would like the chance to see a spring race thank you.
Sophia,
The cars are a little spread out, but not as much as the NNS race last night. That's one reason I don't mind the Google Earth shots, because you get a sense of car to car intervals on the track, and also I like to watch the drivers' lines through the turns. The closure rate of cars on each other is something that is lost with all the tight shots.
That's one of the reasons for the bad racing there, track is way too wide. Hard to get good camera shots I imagine.
Dot, Travis is doing good and I have faith he will get his points this year. I can't quite forgive the Yates decision to give his points to the 98, dirty pool if you ask me
Well, it put the whammy on the in-cars it seems.
"JD - it's amazing to me that California actually has 2 cup races a year."
I don't understand....why do you enjoy taking chances to see races nearby away from me?
Oscar ratings are down but I'll bet dollars to donuts they're at least twice the race ratings tonight.
Anon 7:23&7:25,
It's nothing personal. There are just fewer tracks out west that have good racing. If we could get a carbon copy of Riverside to run the week after Daytona, I'd be all for it. They can even put it on the site of this track!
"Oscar ratings are down but I'll bet dollars to donuts they're at least twice the race ratings tonight."
No offense, but I seriously doubt that.
Alex, yea I guess i would pick Google earth shots over CLOSE UPS and IN CAR CAMS.
Paging Mr. Wells...how many weeks until TNT??
This in car cam stuff is waaaaaaaaay over used.
oh, now bumper cams...sigh.
ri88 if you ran a team and you had no sponsor for travis but a full sponsor for menard, what would you do? Yates has pretty much stated they wont run a blank car this year period and the best decision for the organization was to do what they did. its not dirty pool IMO.
Howdy, gang. Sophia, love the recipe variation for Toll House.
I haven't heard DW and Co. slapping their thighs and yucking it up over Digger. Did I miss something? Been cooking dinner.
"They can even put it on the site of this track!"
you know I was all for Michael Waltrip's idea for a restrictor plate track at this location....but no one else seemed to like that idea.
Yeah, the drivers are just "normal guys". I have my own plane and a supermodel wife, too. That ship sailed years ago....although Nascar shills continue to read from the script.
What is wrong for calling the drivers what they are, high priced athletes and entertainers, not Forrest Gumps.
David, I agree, and understand the decision from an intillectual perspective, but the 28 is special to me personally and I think Travis is the best driver we have had in it in some time, I ment it in more of an 'old school' sense, not so much literal.
Slumdog Millionaire is going to stink up the Oscars. I think the split will be 50/50.
Cali is a good race track, if you were a driver it would be a great place to race because you can move around and make your car work. unfortunately by doing that you get spread out and contact is minimized which means long green runs and spread out packs to which casual fans dont like. this place doesnt bother me its not my favorite track but i wouldnt skip this race for the sake of skipping it. i dont fall asleep during it either.
"although Nascar shills continue to read from the script."
thats not true...you are looking at the issue the wrong way.
i hear ya. but looking at who he has to out qualify, i doubt he will have much of a problem doing so.
I think he will be okay, just wish a sponsor or sponsors would step up and commit now instead of week to week
Can someone tell me why Riggs has gone to the garage?
Another good thing about the later start time here at California, is that night races here are a whole lot more exciting.
Blaney is off too
Anonymous said...
"Oscar ratings are down but I'll bet dollars to donuts they're at least twice the race ratings tonight."
No offense, but I seriously doubt that.
February 22, 2009 7:27 PM
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You're kidding right? Even last year the Oscars got 32 million viewers - and that is flat-out HORRIBLE for the Oscars.
Last year the rating for the OSCARS was an 18.7 and this Cali race (which ran against part of the Oscars during the rain) got a 6.2 rating.
The year before, when it didn't rain, this race got a 6.7 rating. The Oscars got a 23.6 rating (still really bad for them). In other words, it still crushed NASCAR.
The idea that the race would outrank the OSCARS in the TV ratings is silly. FOX is just hoping to get a bigger rating than 6.2 - but even they know they can't BEAT the Oscars.
How can Vickers car be lighter and have all new geometry? I thought all the cars had to weigh the same.
Tracy if the car is lighter they can put the weight where they want it ie low and left
i think what they mean by lighter is that they can move the weight around more freely then they could before. lol lighter is dangerous termanology to use when you got busted last fall for having a car that was too thin on the sheet metal lol.
"but even they know they can't BEAT the Oscars."
Oh but this year is different. the Oscars are in for a big beating.
If you google Neiman Marcus Cookie hoax $250, you find a fab recipe. Lots of ingredients but worth it. :)
I am so not getting the appeal of this track..it is not tv friendly is it.
When i am enjoying some of the commercials more, one is in trouble.
Hey do they cut back on ED meds for primetime? Might be one benefit to PM race.
But if I jinxed us with a commercial, sorry in advanced...:)
Did you say Riggs was out? Did I miss it?
Riggs is in the garage with engine problems.
"I am so not getting the appeal of this track..it is not tv friendly is it."
It really is a fun track to be at in person. Ive been there a few times and had a blast. Also, the night races here have provided a lot more excitement and side-by-side racing for TV viewers.
Newrf and David - thanks for the explanation.
I thought Riggs was out long ago and then Blaney or are there three in the garage and I missed one?
Daytona last week -
9.2 rating
19 share
16 million viewers
Oscars last year (their worst ever)
18.7
29
32 million
"but even they know they can't BEAT the Oscars."
Oh but this year is different. the Oscars are in for a big beating.
February 22, 2009 7:39 PM
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Anon 7:27/7:39, you are a troll and you know it. You see the Oscars stats. Enough. Let's get back to racing.
They might not overtake the entire Oscars program, but the race will take a serious chuck out of it.
Riggs is in the garage, but only 12 laps down right now.
Vicky - engine problems? Yikes. Hate to see it happen to TBR.
My uncle Jerry is visiting from Richmond, VA. He is a Junior fan and goes to the All-Star race and both Richmond races.
Was 38 and sleeting in VA. Was 75 and sunny in S. Fla....he is a happy NASCAR fan.
I like those double video boxes on the green flag pit stops. Nice size.
Dot,
"Slumdog Millionaire" is not going to "stink up the Oscars." It's a sweet story of rags to riches and a romance to boot. It's a typically American story, but it's set in India. The sad thing is because it's set in India, most of America will not see this movie.
Sophia, NIkki Finke is live-snarking the Oscars. She's the best reporter in Hollywood, who regularly scoops Variety, The Hollywood Reporter, and the Los Angeles Times. She's been reporting on Hollywood for decades, and should not be dismissed as "some chick." She's a serious reporter who doesn't take it seriously.
Sorry for going off-topic, J.D.
West Coast Kenny
Alameda, California
Anon @ 7:43 PM:
I dont take kindly to personal attacks, I will suggest to JD that your comment be deleted.
I love, love, love the split screen!
Tracy, I think that's what Mike Joy stated when he went to the garage. He's 8 laps down now.
Why do the CA and LV races start at different times? CA would so benefit by an earlier start time.
Let me put my broken record on again. I prefer earlier start times.
Anyone else out of the race?
I know I'm beating a 2008 dead horse, but Jeff Gordon playing guitar and roasting a marshmallow just wasted 10 seconds that we could have still been watching the race.
Joe N & Blaney are in the garage. I imagine they have both retired from the race.
Nemechek and Mayfield are in the garage too, aren't they?
JD, I'm freezing my derriere off in VA. My poor daffodils are going to droop even more after tonight. I'm so glad they don't race in Richmond early in the year anymore.
Out-
Blaney and Nemechek
JD,
Nemechek, Blaney, and Riggs are in the garage. Everybody else is 2 laps down or closer.
Kenn,
What is live-snarking? Is that like blogging?
I haven't seen Slumdog Millionaire. In fact, the only oscar movie I've seen is "The Wrestler" which was very good actually.
The stat I find most useful on the race ticker is how much behind the leader each car is. I know they don't like you to know that so many cars a a lap down, but the info is useful to enjoying the race.
Nice in-car camera shot with the mountains on one side then the sunset in the corner
Riggs 8 laps down and on the track
J.D.,
Local sunset in Fontana, California: 5:40.
West Coast Kenny
Alameda, California
Bad part of the race, no action and too early for Larry Mc to start doing strategy options.
NRF thanks for update on Riggs - I thought one of the guys in the booth might mention it ????
....And it's Digger forced joke time.
Wow, that was a new one. Digger lives.
Spoke too soon :)
Bevo, no action is an understatement, at least at MIS we get 3 wide racing and some fun.
Anon 7.42
I should've clarified..I know many races are great LIVE but lose something on tv. :)
I agree I do like night time races as the cars look great under the lights. It's the races that take up the whole day most of us whine about.
I am glad you have enjoyed races at the track live.
Also I think a BETTER camera director could help out.
OMG! A FAMILY OF DIGGERS out of the ground? R U kidding me...sorry, Anon, but that was a surprise.
Anyway, so I love green flag racing but usually when I can see it from home, too.
:)
The digger animation was just on and they are still fake laughing at it. Do they think we are this stupid? Its not funny.
"at least at MIS we get 3 wide racing and some fun."
JD, arent these tracks (Cali, MIS) EXACTLY the same?
Dale Jr. is about 10 seconds on the track from going a lap down.
Want to take bets on when we'll see the phantom debris caution? I'll say Lap 125.
Mike, that was pitiful wasn't it?
Okay, forced chucklesin the booth for Digger and fellow Diggees. Sigh.
Almost the same, that was my point. Gas mileage land....
Alex,
"Live-snarking" is live-blogging with snarky comments.
Yes, I liked "The Wrestler" as well. Another good story of redemption.
I love the long shot down the speedway, looking at the horizon. J.D., is it possible all the rain is past?
West Coast Kenny
Alameda, California
Hi to Uncle Jerry :).
J.D.
They are not even trying anymore. I guess they are sick of digger too.
Daly Planet Editor said...
Almost the same, that was my point. Gas mileage land....
February 22, 2009 7:58 PM
So then why is the racing so different?
Ragan slaps the wall hard according to MRN
just look at all them boys from third on back just lurkin' why is this race so long, everyones just ridding. yawn.
It looks like we are clear in terms of rain or showers.
Why are we seeing Hammond during the GF? Yeah, I know the race is boring, but it's the principle.
Btw, what happened to Dinger?
Anon, if you had the answer to that question you would be working at ISC tomorrow!
Could be track surface, weather, tires....anything....
Ken Fong
sorry no disrespect was meant for that reporter..I do not keep up on such shows and use "some chick" to talk about myself at times. Not a slam I never heard of her..and new she wasn't some guy.
Glad she does well..and thanks for clarifying who the chick/lady/woman is to me. :)
Mike, they did that at Daytona as well. Just stopped talking about Digger after a while.
Ragan hitting the wall might be Nascar's chance to call a debris caution.
no caution
@Dot--he's a lap down in 39th :( I don't know why
I need to figure out why my TP radio isn't working :(
Dot, i think they pitted on that first or second rain caution and lost track position and have just had issues getting it back. havent heard anything unscheduled but may have had a pit problem during that second rain yellow when they stopped and thats why they lost the spots they did
21 cars on the lead lap. Stremme, M. Waltrip, and Vickers all in danger of being lapped soon.
The long GF runs are nice to see for a change, it reminds me of 20 years ago when you might only have 7 or 8 cars finish on the lead lap.
Thanks Gymmie & David. My own in house race reporters.
@Dot--apparently Dinger had a loose nut :(
Sophia-
In my rather advanced years it's been my experience that saying "some chick" does not go over well with chicks :)
"The long GF runs are nice to see for a change, it reminds me of 20 years ago when you might only have 7 or 8 cars finish on the lead lap."
See? now that is a good way to look at these so-called boring green flag runs.
I predict 12 cars on the lead lap at the checkers.
Cali always goes green early with a tough mid to last third segment
@Dot--anytime I can help :)
At least Mikey pitted the right way this time - not like yesterday's race.
J.D.,
Are the announcers allowed to receive largesse from official NASCAR sponsors? I'm wondering, because I never seem to hear "gas" or "fuel" without hearing "Sunoco."
Junior seems to be parking inside his pit box today.
West Coast Kenny
Alameda, California
Wow, got to give the Fox guys credit for grinding it out. Good facts and nice coverage of green flag pit stops.
Certainly would like to see them update the stories they promoted in the pre-race show like Jr. and Kenseth and others...
Halfway leader at Fontana has won the last 5 races.
Current halfway leader - Jeff Gordon.
Saw this stat pop up on HOTPASS.
Kenny,
The official products are mentioned just like Sprint, Nationwid and Camping World. No cash changes hands...its a title sponsorship.
oops, add an "e"
Dot,
They're still in pit stops, but there are currently 13 on the lead lap. You may be on to something...
Horse love?
i think the reason the annoucers do it is because there is a mutual respect for the fact that companies like sunoco are critical to making this sport go, therefore in return they get promoted since they arent on a race car and arent everwhere the eye can see.
ri88 it was a super bowl commercial...lol i like it.
What a cute Budweiser ad! Was that JJ sitting in the golf cart?
everyone be sure to tune to speed this week for BULLRUN!!!! cant's wait. ha
David - missed the Super Bowl. (World Series and Nascar are my only vices). Darling ad.
I heard Hammond once say that every story in Stroker Ace happened in real life.
Loving this race actually!
The NW race was total domination but this race is actually evolving. the 48 was fast, then fell off, the 24 got the lead, the 16 and 17 are making headway as is the 99 and 83...
definately interesting race for me at least
Bevo,
I am no young spring chicken but the women/ladies/grand dames i know would not be insulted by "some chick" unless bad tone of voice was used..ya know what I'm saying? We tend to add more descriptions like dumb, stupid, i.e. if meaning to be insulting. I am polite but not always PC. My apologizes to fellow chi--er women on the board. Thanks for the reminder, Bevo. ;-)
On internet some words come off harsher without using smiley thingies to soften them up. :)
Ok ASK.com is way tired and old at this time. Wow, they must've paid big bucks to have mentions ad nauseum.
Tracy, couldn't have been JJ --- he would have been on top. hehehe
Oh, Lord -- Stroker Ace.
What a difference a year make Mikey doesn't get lapped until lap 136 and he's in 17th instead of 37th.
Well at least we have had some passes for the lead unlike the other 2 races this weekend. Like the crank it up
Google trends for today :)
Today's Hot Trends (USA)
1. angie harmon
2. jason sehorn
3. oscars 2009 time
4. fontana ca
5. academy awards ballot
ok..how many would like to see a car hit Digger and knock that camera OUT of his hand animation.:) Splat.
Wow, I love animals and dont like road kill but....*sigh*
curmudgeonearlyintheseasonsophia
Time for a competition caution. There should be a limit to the number of consecutive green flag laps.
I'm not saying a thing
Jr's about to go a lap down caution!
Dare i say competition caution?
didnt hear smoke talk about rain...
EEkkkk-more rain!
Nan,
I was about 15 laps late on that one. I was out of the room so I missed it, but is this caution credited to rain or debris?
Nevermind, Mike Joy is explaining it.
Crank it up is great but needs to last a full 60 seconds.
Hate seeing this caution...could mess up things for everybody...I wish WT was on now.
Sophia-
Just pulling your leg.
I used to call my ex-wife "Chicky"...
oops, bad example :)
@alex, caution due to rain. See even "acts of god" favor Jr.!
surprised no one is talking about montoya. solid 10th to 13th all day long. reuti doing the same thing.
Bevo
LAUGHING OUT LOUD at your chicky comment.
:-)
competition caution? I think this is competition rain.
Is there really rain?, or a way to bunch up the field. Just got a look at some stands, not full.
@ NanS, funny.
@ dear Sophia, chick doesn't bother me. You're right. It's how it's said.
DAvid, yes - I wonder why Montoya and Reut are gettng the cold shoulder?
"See even "acts of god" favor Jr.!"
wow, JR sure does have a lot of fans, even in powerful places...
Tracy,
Could it be that JPM/DR are not Hendrick or Roush?
JD,
is it safe to say that the networks would love for these races to be reduced to at least 400 miles and that it is nascar and tracks who don't want the reduced?
ozob
I live in California. I love racing. This is NOT RACING!
Alex, LOL.
alex-
As complicated as the ownership stuff is going are we really sure they're not part of Rousch or Hendrick???
This is going to be an interesting run down the stretch. I wonder if any story lines will finally develop for TV?
Jr's got fans EVERYWHERE! I thought it would be debris but rain works too.
Well at least they are not trying to follow stories that are not there
Rain worse JJ
according to a friend at the race, she says it isnt raining where she is sitting so i would guess that this is off turn 2 again so it is being affected by the mountains i imagine. probably will go away soon if it is actually rain lol
We may be in for the 12 hours of Fontana, oh goodie
seems to me i was sitting on the frontstretch at pocono last year when the race was red flagged b/c of rain -- on the backstretch. i was sitting in sunshine but it was raining hard across the track from me.
after the drubbing nascar took last week, i suspect it'd have to be a monsoon before they'd call this one.
Over half way now... I'm thinking they will be quick to call it this year if the track gets wet.
My question on that Dale Jr interview is that is it a situation where the older drivers really respect Jr or did they respect his dad so much that its the name that gets the respect rather than the person?
just a question not trying to fan any flames here
Seems like every local break here has ads for the Texas spring race and Martinsville.
How could the younger drivers not know about JRs popularity? He's an Earnhardt. Certainly they have heard about him before they got to Cup. His comment doesn't make sense.
David-
Yep, think you're on to something there.
Okay, I confess, I switched to see Hugh Jackman open the Oscars - he's simply incredible. And Anne Hathaway can sing!
JD, Please let that poster give us the recipe for grilled ground hog. My grill is fired up and ready to go. Digger and friends have to go.
Digger just got ran over. No damage, dang it.
Hopefully Kyle can catch up to Kurt for some action
@ Tracy, was he naked? That was the teaser I kept reading about online.
For me the I think the older drivers understand more what it took to get back in the car after his dad died and perform at all. He has won races, shown respect and has had to wear that name. Younger drivers who might not have been attatched to their TV's during that few weeks in 2001 did not see for themselves his strength and heart and true racer mentality. Just my take
Lou
Isn't that 'critter' annoying. I feel like I am watching the ****** show.
*sigh*
graphic is way too big. STILL or animated.
Mercy.
Paging Granny Clampett's recipe for Gopher Gravy. :)
Nope, Dot, he is wearing a lovely tux. Viola Davis is being singled out right now - does anyone remember her in the Jess Stone mysteries on TV with Tom Selleck? Okay, back to Cali.
my take on dale's comment about his popularity:
the older drivers have watched him grow up in the sport. they watched the process of him moving from a young, obnoxious punk to a thoughtful racer. he's worked to earn their respect.
the younger guys see the last name and, as he bluntly said, they don't understand why he's so popular. they see it as being a consequence of being his dad's son, not because of who dale is as an individual.
in addition, i could be wrong but i don't recall any other racer in the history of the sport losing his dad during a race in which they were both competing. hell, i don't think we've had a situation where a dad has lost his son during a race in which they were both competing. that accelerated quite a bit of maturity for dale, in my opinion, and has to account for some of the respect with which he's regarded around the garage.
the man is honest to a fault: i loved his line about why he said he couldn't see his pit stall sign!
More rain coming? The racing gods must be really ticked off this year.
I think the younger drivers, some of who had to earn their rides by winning get upset of the fact that jr has the money and notoriety without the results.
they have performed, all but called jr out in some cases, got backlash for it and dont understand what the situation is...
you can only live on a name for so long before you HAVE to perform. Kyle Petty has gotten ALOT of breaks for being a Petty but you see some true colors in his commentary this past week regarding the 44 and AJ's daytona scheme...
Jr is a skilled Cup driver, but to reference hollywood...is he an A list actor or just an A list ego?
Re Dale Jr - I keep going back to Mark Martin saying Junior has the strongest shoulders carrying the heaviest load in Nascar. Clearly MM is a fan.
Tracy--not me. Have no idea who Hugh Jackman, Viola Davis, Anne Hathaway or Jess Stone are. The only name I recognized is Tom Selleck. I saw a blurb on Hugh Jackman the other day, and still couldn't pull him out of a line up.
I was merely playing devils advocate tho...
My opinion differs from many, win more and get a championship otherwise much of it is in vain.
Tho it did take tremendous courage to get back in that car after losing his dad and you have to believe most of that year he wished he wasnt in the car.
talk of the 88 losing the engine perhaps
Jr in trouble
Dropped a cylinder per MRN
@ David, if the drivers feel this way about JR, how about Logano? That's more of a bitter pill to swallow.
So did Juan look uncomfortable with that drum kit or what
Well DW's idea of Jr's car sounds like it may be a little off. Jr's saying loose, loose. Uh oh, he just said, lost a cylinder.
Oh good lord
Another rain caution? Three Hendrick engines in trouble?
fox now going to update the oscars with graphics during the race. you've got to be kidding me1
I caught Juan on the drums, that was a good one.
Anyone have a weather update?
Boy JD, you wanted something to happen.....
Just got home to catch the end of the race. Would like to thank Fox for spoiling Oscar winners.
If the track dries, we are going to see some racing now. Maybe even a little close racing...imagine that!
Dot, if you saw the showdown a few weeks ago you saw drivers give joey no slack at all and run him into the wall several times late. which was why he did what he did at the end.
Like i said, playing devils advocate...dont wanna get any fires going lol
jr just in the pits with hood up. uh oh
No engine problem with the 48, just popped out of 4th gear per Winston Kelly on MRN
Weather update for LV, rain.
Thomas tuned in for a race and the Oscars broke out LOL so sorry!
Where is the Dinger running at this moment?
Ok you gotta admit that engine is cool, and he took the glove off
I was hoping to dodge the Oscar winners for the last few laps.
david: i don't tthink dale has any bigger ego than any of the other 42 racers out there tonight. i would be hard-pressed to find another racer who would have spoken as honestly as dale did to DW. i don't see an A-list ego in him.
please be certain we're separating the man from the more fanatical of his fans. sometimes, the man is viewed thru the prism of the most subjective of his fans and they take up for him in a seriously vociferous manner that alienates others.
i respect what he's done in his entire career, including late models and busch series. is he THE best right now? nope. but he's certainly not the worst and he's being slammed by folks who feel he's been unfairly handed what he's worked to achieve. his dad didn't hand him a car, his dad didn't hand him sponsors, his dad didn't create JRM. it's be nice if folks could stop blaming dale for the irrational part of his fanbase and look at him at least as objectively as they do other drivers.
A positive for FOX.(jmho)
At least as soon as, or sooner, you hear something on the scanner Fox is telling the viewers about it. And from what I remember they follow up on the stories. Not something we get with the "Worldwide Leader".
Cool motor cutout, BUT give us a split screen! I don't care if it is under caution.
red-
Well said, it's damned near impossible to have a logical and dispassionate discussion with most fans about Jr.
Love that Stewart/Old Spice ad!
Don't really like that Smoke commercial, this female is somewhat insulted and I really don't care if she is from Russia
David:
re your idea about wins and championships. If every racer had that as their attitude, we would never have the journeyman drivers on whom much of these series live.
To win and win a championship is obviously every racers goal, but some also just enjoy the fact that they can make a living having fun. Why do Scott Riggs, Elliot Sadler, Jeramy Mayfield, Mike Wallace, do it; just to name a few. Again, just my take
I hear you red. I question his moves at JRM because until Rick came in there the team was only close to winning a single race. The rest of the time the team existed was wrecked cars and problems galore. His fans put him in a tough spot with their views that anything less than a win causes his detractors to slam him which is unfair. I was surprised to see after Daytona alot of people step up for vickers in the press which to me shows that the media has at least come off being on that side of the fanbase which is a huge relief to me. I try to see him as just another driver but it can be hard at times for various reasons. That being said I can recognize he has earned his spot in the Cup series and wish him the best in accomplishing his goals. Aint my favorite driver, just wish his fans would calm down some at times lol
Oh Bevo and you were busting on Soph for Chicks too
Gotta think Mark is wondering why he let himself get talked into a full season right now...
NASCAR on FOX putting Oscar updates on screen? Good idea or bad?
david: one last point and then i think we need to let this blog get back to the coverage -- altho' i'm enjoying the discussion! thanks.
the wrecked cars at jrm were one of the reasons that two drivers were released by dale. it was starting to settle down right before the partnership with hms. he's taken full advantage of THAT relationship -- as have several other teams this year!
and, as a dale fan, i also wish that some of his fans could see him more objectively and calm down: it ain't all about the boy, ya' know?!?
Yeah, a shout-out for Reut! Lost his brakes,yikes!
Bummer for Reut...
OK ESPN, I mean FOX. I don't need updates on the Oscars. If I wanted to watch I know the channel.
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