Mark Martin just does not cut it as a Go Daddy Girl, so Jillian Michaels came to the Auto Club Speedway and drummed-up a bit of publicity by working out some of the TV and media personalities in the sport.
ESPN's Allen Bestwick and David Newton were alongside FOX's Krista Voda and SPEED's Rutledge Wood. Three of the four made it through unscathed. Pictures of Wood on the floor in the fetal position beside a trash can were making the rounds shortly after the workout session was over.
Now it's Sunday, Michaels is nowhere to be found and the only thing at the speedway is rain. Luckily, it's a fine mist and the weather is supposed to be clearing. The journalists were grumpy because the free pace car rides were cancelled. It's a tough life.
The conflict between FOX and fans continues. Ratings were down last week and into the awful range. Media members pointed to ticket sales, expensive hotels and the price of gas as the problems. Thousands of fans on TDP pointed directly at FOX.
This season, the conflict between director Artie Kempner and the fan base has hit critical mass. Kempner has completely disconnected from NASCAR fans. When FOX is done, Kempner is off to other assignments and does not return until Daytona in February. Unlike the SPEED and ESPN folks, Kempner can simply walk away from the train wreck he has helped to create.
Many people said that last week's FOX coverage from Bristol was perhaps the worst NASCAR race ever produced by that network. From the start, the issue was the pictures. There is no RaceBuddy for the Sprint Cup Series races. There are no free in-car camera feeds. FOX is the only game in town.
We labeled Kempner's insane approach to NASCAR racing on TV as "hyper-tight" coverage. Single car shots, extended in-car cameras and essentially no perspective on the actual race itself are the hallmarks of his NASCAR efforts. The topper is showing only the winner of the race crossing the finish line.
Kempner has decided that the race is over when the leader finishes. Unfortunately, fans of the other top teams and drivers have made the commitment to watch FOX for four hours. Not seeing their driver race to the finish has caused them to simply walk away from the TV coverage.
Saturday, ESPN telecast the Nationwide Series race from ACS. The coverage was solid and featured one key element. The director kept all the cars racing for position in the camera shot being sent to viewers. In-car cameras were, for the most part, used to embellish the coverage and not provide primary video.
The Auto Club Speedway features passing on pit road and restarts. There is very little passing in the race once the field gets strung out. The stories of the race are fuel, tires and pit strategy. FOX has the best pit road reporters on TV and in Bristol they were rendered useless. This week, they must play a key role or the real stories will never be told.
Darrell Waltrip will have plenty of time to talk with long green flag runs and it should be interesting to see how much he interacts with fans live on Twitter. Waltrip has recently become aware that the fans have strong opinions on the live telecasts and seemingly wants to make things better.
Larry McReynolds and Jeff Hammond have become non-factors this season. Waltrip is the leader and FOX has decided to make him the focal point of the coverage. It should be very interesting to see what topics he decides to discuss and how his opinions on Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Kyle Busch are presented.
FOX has all the tools to make this race a treat. A veteran play-by-play announcer in Mike Joy, good analysts and solid pit reporting. Ultimately, with radio offering an alternative to the FOX commentary it may come down to the simple choice of what pictures are being sent to fans.
We will update the rain situation in the comments section and pass along any race delays. As always, we invite your comments on the TV coverage today from ACS. To add your opinion, just click on the comments button below. This is a family-friendly website, please keep that in mind when posting. Thanks for taking the time to stop by The Daly Planet.
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1 – 200 of 305 Newer› Newest»12:44PM and still damp and misting. Keeping an eye on the weather. Hoping to get it in today.
weather.com says 10% chance of showers the rest of the way through at California Speedway???? Dosent look wet on raceday
Hope theres no rain!!!!
Watching Golf right now and there are showing more then just the leader.
Funny you should say that. Golf is the other most challenging sport top produce and is often compared to motorsports.
No clock, no timeouts and no ability to stop play for TV.
oops..."to produce"
Quick if you are lucky you can
tune in to the Indy cars ..aka
Lawn Mowers .. and you can hear ..
MARTY REED ! Now is that good news
or what?
I'm opting out for the beginning of the race today...other things to do that I actually enjoy.
Your on the spot weatherman here reporting from Fontana...the sun is starting to break out at my house about 3 miles northeast of the track but there are still some thick clouds to the west. They are not dropping rain but it could cause mist. I'd be more concerned about weepers postponing the race than the weather as it did come down significantly at my home last night...not sure about at the track as weather here is very weird in how it will pour on one block and just drizzle on another.
Do take all of that with a grain or two of salt as I am watching the IndyCar race instead of NASCAR pre-race babbling and have not heard anything about the condition of the track yet.
Other than that, I will just repeat the thought in my recent tweet that I wonder when NASCAR will stop scheduling the races here for either the coldest and rainiest or hottest and smoggiest parts of the year.
Wow JD, you are laying down the smack on Fox today.
I noticed you never mentioned Barry Landis who Arte has to listen too.
So why target Arte, one of the best in the business instead of the real culprits. Barry knows nothing about racing and he's the dude calling the shots and he's the one in the chair.
ESPN, TNT and everyone else in the compound go off and do football, baseball, basketball and many other projects. So why make a big deal out of the fact that don't live racing 24/7 ?
Great to see a Confederate flag in the background on Raceday. And people wonder why this sport is continually going downhill?
I did have the TV on while I was vacuuming, and hear Kyle calling out Kenny and the stat men on the 'winning record' of Kyle Busch. I'm glad someone finally talked about how bogus it is to use every race he's run in to come up with the number. GO KYLE!
racingfool,
FOX has been in the sport for ten years now. This is the result.
I have had fan after fan say they were stepping away until TNT came back or just leaving for good.
If something is not going right, you either change it or pretend nothing is wrong. I'll leave you to decide what FOX is doing.
The IRL race has been a complete mess.
They wanted to imitate NASCAR, they wound up imitating ARCA!
I've been tuning into the Indy car race, and Marty isn't any more coherent there with 21 cars on the track than he has been in Cup with 43! He's just not a play by play man.
Bye for now. May make it back for then end of the nap, er, race.
Back to Indy cars...even they insist on talking about 'the front nose' of the car. Has anyone seen a 'rear nose' on a race car? Just sayin.
Sally, would you please stop making sense! You're confusing the TV guys!
At the risk of over simplifying, my issue with Larry,DW and Mike is that they are stale. Race after race,year after year you get the same cliches,anecdotes and opinions. If I hear "Cautions breed cautions" one more time, I'm going to puke. I'd just love to see some new blood give it a shot. AB, Craven,La Joie, DJ come to mind. We all realize there are numerous reasons/issues for the poor quality of the broadcasts regardless of the Network. Let's hope the weather clears and that we have a good race. I enjoyed yesterday's broadcast.
Looks like what little I'm watching the Indy car race that they just follow one person & use too many in-car cameras also. Only get long shots when they do side by side. Not good.
I think Anon 1:47 is right. Even if the booth monkeys were good, they get stale after a while. Even if you go to the best restaurant in town, it gets old after a while. New voices with new perspectives would be welcome here.
Looks like some of the folks at the track are wearing rain gear.
Anon 1:47PM,
On Friday we had Steve Byrnes, Kyle Petty and Jeff Hammond doing Nationwide qualifying on SPEED. It was fun, entertaining and informative.
Then, on came Mike, Larry and DW. It was like flicking a switch to dull. Nothing showed the contrast more.
My suggestion: Krista in the Hollywood Hotel with DW, Wendy V on pit road, Steve, Kyle and Jeff in the booth. They have to do something and soon.
Kind of weird to see Kyle Petty "over" Kenny Wallace and JR on "RaceDay."
Weird vibe going on for sure.
Hi Planet people, Watching ABC kill the Indy Race, then I'm going to watch ESPN totally butcher the live PBA bowling, Thank God for beer, cold beer.
LOL! Man, they are killing it. They only do five a year, but Marty is a mess and the poor producer is lost! Did you hear the radio traffic? Argh.
Jet dryers are out in Cali. No info yet on revised start time.
KoHoSo what day would that be :)
I just love the Indy cars, they are so cool. They have a helicoptor there but won't use it for TV shots, come on guys it's a road course. The side by side is nice but mostly been used during yellow flag. You guys are going to tear apart the NA$CAR race today. I'll be checking in.
Great point Mike. No perspective.
I am anon 1:47. I appreciate the points made by JD and Osbornk. Many of us have been crying out for change to no avail. A few changes have been made, but so many more are needed. Kenny ahd KP on Race Day are just weird. Whether he means to or not, Kenny often comes across as if he's talking down to a bunch of 5th graders.
From Kenny Wallace on Twitter:
Izod Indy car has been talking trash about Nascar lately, its part of there marketing strategy :) ..Won't Work!
Poor Kenny Wallace...never learned the difference between "there" and "their." >:-)
Anon 1:47 Yes that stuff about talking to us like we are children is a big pet peve with me. That pre race crap gets no more of my life. Oh you got me going! Kenny needs to take his ritlin (sp?)
Indycar Camera work not great either & FEW overhead shots above St. Petersburg. These street courses are always tough to show.
I'll be outside during the NASCAR race. Sunny day & NOT worth watching to get annoyed. Heard there's a rain delay.
Did anybody hear the F bomb Danica dropped about the restarts? WOW, somebody not paying attention to that..it was very delayed & NOT live.
And we had to hear the "Rusty" word again today!! Does KW ever stop praising/mentioning him? I thought we could get through the day without hearing a shout out.
ESPN told us on Twitter that she said "freaking" and they checked it before they used it.
Not how it sounded to me!
JD
Our ears did not hear freaking either :)
Pre race back in the Hollywood Hotel. Just what this race DID NOT need. The outdoor pre race adds energy and excitement. Auto Club Speedway is the inverse of energy and excitement.
Yes the Indy car restarts are WILD. Bad camera work today, I understand it's a road course but use that helicoptor TV shot for the love of all things good and holy.
Somebody help me out here. I need Tim Brewer on ABC to tell me something I guess is real basic about IndyCars since I know really a patheticallly small amount about What are Red and Black tires? I'm guessing reds are scuffs and blacks are stickers? or what?
I just cannot stand the bromance DW has w/Shrub. Enough already!!
AncientRacer
Reds are soft compound
Blacks are hard compound
Happy RaceDay Planeteers <3
AR,
The softer the tires, the shorter the time the tread lasts. Back to you, Marty.
How was that?
Mr Editor -
What a failing of production team not to show the attractive surroundings in St Pete ...I'm deaf in one ear and can't hear out of the other, but Danica sounded like she used a NASCAR term ...oh yea, it's still ESPN isn't it? ...and leave it to Mario to 'tell it like it is' - that's a/c
Walter
Chris Myers is out to lunch and it's his home track.
Now told the race track is ready and things will start on time.
alright everyone have fun today! I love Cali so im going to enjoy this like no other!!! Hope you all do as well
=>
GO JR
Mr Editor -
Re: F1 broadcast ...I suspect David Hobbs has every bit as much racing experience as DW and Rusty, but never once during today's race did he intrude on Bob Varsha's call ...his comments were directed to the racing action, and not peppered with "I" ...enjoyed learning (not being told)about numerous changes in F1's first race of the season
Walter
Regarding Indy
Yes USUALLY highlight the city much better besides commercial breaks...sigh..still better than the NASCAR broadcasts cam wise.
Indy's been using too many in car cams also for years but street stuff ALWAYS tough..but they should use the helicopter more..GORGEOUS day in St Pete just like here in OH.
There is overhead towards the end on two cars...really spread out....even from Heli REALLY spread out in Indycar.
NOW SKY SHOTS!! :) as I type
w17scott...spot on! What an irony that the best overall race announcing crew on television in the USA today isn't even at the track.
DW is following the theme that NASCAR decided to make a priority this season and that is "winning."
This was the reation to drivers who said in interviews they were running for points to get in the Chase.
From Kenny Wallace on Twitter:
Izod Indy car has been talking trash about Nascar lately, its part of there marketing strategy :) ..Won't Work!
**************************************************
If Kenny is talking about it, I guess that means it is working.
Come on guys! Espn is ALWAYS right. If Espn says no foul by Danica, then no foul! Someone could make a lot of money selling a DVD titled "Danica's Tantrums". I rember when she went storming down pit road after one of the Penske drivers. Roger came on the radio and told his driver to drop his visor. But by far the funniest was when Danica went after the other woman driver named Mika. Danica got in her face until Mika let loose with her own foul mouth and threw a big white towel in Danica's face. Danica recoiled in shock,got huffy and Mika threw it back in her face a second time! Just priceless. Anyhow, let's hope the weather holds and we have a good, clean race without the 'weepers' on the track causing problems.
Love that she got lapped toward the end. What a weird career for her.
Count me as one of those skipping this race on FOX. Sad because I used to set aside those hours for a race on the weekend. Looking back the zenith for me as a NASCAR fan was paying for HotPass on DirecTV with people like Rick Allen and Randy Pemberton doing play-by-play. The focus was on the racing and you could get plenty of information about any driver by just changing the channel to one racing near them.
@Roland
Thank you very much! :)
@Sophia
Despite being a big time KyBu fan I agree with you completely on what KP said and I tll wonder why no one has flogged thaat issue more.
And I did like the Indycar race. I especially like the side x side ads. Why oh why cannot we do that -- I know everyone here has been asking that question since the day after they invented sand...
Jd
That was GREAT. Perhaps you have a future in the Tch Gargage! :)
Man, I wish they had RaceBuddy for this event. It would make it sooooooo much better once the field stretches out.
ABC doing post race interviews, the guys and girls are huffing and puffing after getting out of those Indy cars, good stuff, bad coverage,
Hi folks, I'm going to watch the start, then rely on the radio for the coverage since I'm not expecting much from Fox today. I simply no longer watch any of the pre-race stuff -- Kyle Petty doesn't offset Kenny Wallace's idiocy.
And as noted on here by others, it is time for a change with the folks in the booth. Love Mike Joy, but a few fresh voices/perspectives for race day would be welcome. IMO DW would be much better used in the Hollywood Hotel rather than the full time face of fox. He means well, but along with the tight shots of the cars, it simply isn't working to make NASCAR must see TV.
Denny Hamlin did not sound to thrilled doing that interview.
Indycar showed FINISH line for spread out cars..22 seconds or more apart!!
Now NASCAR..tv going off as we go outside..this thing called sun in sky & like Bevo, no longer plan weekends around NASCAR for 4 hrs of AGGRAVATION from horrible truck in car/bumpercam/Tight shot ebola virus.
Kenny Schrader in the race! Wah. Will dvr
Sorry Fox, you & BSPN just ain't worth to try & watch live or at all due to bad camera selection
Denny doing his best Junior impression when ESPN is covering the races! Not happy.
Anon 3:06 -- all that foot stomping by Danica is one of the reasons I simply can't root for her. Heck, I would LOVE to have a female driver to root for - I'll cheer for someone like Jennifer Jo Cobb or Johanna Long, but it won't ever be Danica.
obviously this isn't the right thing to say, but honestly when she marched down there to scream at the male Penske driver, I was really hoping he'd bat her one. Was very happy when Milka finally didn't get her let get away with that BS.
Almost made it to lap 10!
I watched the F1 race this morning, wow what a difference! Really nice change of pace to hear a professional broadcast of a race. Get this... not a single "self promotion" by the booth guys all race long!
Man, Bayne has had NO luck since the 500 win. Such as shame for that kid and team.
Gina
Simone de Silvestro worth rooting for. Fast learning, hard worker, gives excellent feedback & does NOT blast on those around her for mistakes made.
Hell she caught on FIRE last year, almost got her arm pulled out of socket/broken yanking her out of tiny body of Indycar & STILL smiled for the cameras a few minutes later. No Diva attitude at all.
REFRESHING!! She finished 4th today. She's very worthy of building a fan base. Girl next door looks, not into sexing up her image.
When you look at the F-1 guys and the truck coverage it's an amazing difference.
Almost 10? I'm impressed. Was not even long enough for me to put the wash into the dryer is all I know.
@Ginav24: Go to your Yahoo Re: question
Did DW actually say that the fans were "looking up here, waiting for those words" just before the green flag? As if anyone wants to hear his stupid Boogetly crap? So much that the fans aren't watching the actual start? Can his ego get ANY bigger?
Cathy
@Ancient Racer??? I do not remember saying KyB comment? Did you mean somebody else?
:)
back out to the yard..
@Gina - all of the pressure Bayne has been under by him being showcased by everyone. Leave him alone and let him learn. He needs a mentor or maybe the one he has is pushing too hard for the spotlight.
Why do they show replays zoomed out.
"Drivers never ride around." DW is on a roll.
Thanks, Sophia - that is good to know about Simone -- I'll watch for her when I watch Indy cars.
@Sophia
KP comment ABOUT KyBu and his win count. :)
"Put your ego aside..."
More ironic words have never been said.
Simone de Silvestro was very impressive today, very fun rooting for her today. Agreed the F-1 coverage (early) this morning was really good.
Wheres the NFL theme music?
@Roland
It is locked out.
Sorry...could not resist
VCU ahead of Kansas 41-27 at halftime.
I didn't catch the Speed b'cast (had a really annoying low-pitched hum), so I watched the BBC show. They are now my second favorite group of booth monkeys.
Osbornk some people maybe recording the basketball game to watch later.
Roland, it seems the NFL music bed has bit the dust. Nice idea maybe.
Fox missing green flag pit stops for the leaders
Charlie, you might be right. If I was going to record something to watch later, it would be the race. That way, I could skip through and watch the 10 or 15 minutes of excitement. I automatically DVR every race in case something comes up and I can't remember the last time I watched one.
Missed the pre-race show as we were watching Indy race. Simona did really well at the end, TK kinda blocked her. Saw the attendance f/yesterdays race was ONLY 36,000 wonder how many "fans" are out at the track for cup. Good pit reports today so far.
With the potential for pit stops to be crucial, I cannot believe they went to break.
How in the WORLD did FOX miss the start of green-flag pit stops? It's not like they couldn't hear from the radio chatter when the leaders would be coming.
JD ... do you have any idea if FOX monitors the team radios before deciding to go to commercial? I heard them talking about green flag pit stops on Truex's radio a little bit before they went to commercial.
AR -- got your msgs via yahoo - thanks much, love the youtube choices!
How is the attendance? They have done a very effetive job of hiding the stands.
JD I hate that the NFL music is gone. Its a much better way to open a broadcast than a 2 year old country song.
did they mention Jr's tire changer injury on TV??
Jrs rear tire changer hurt himself bad enough that they are looking for another changer - no mention
commercials all over
They really are trying to one up themselves
Hey guys, I love NASCAR but I turned the channel real quick and the basketball game is getting good! KU on a 12-0 run, VCU's lead is down to 4!!
What else can you say - tight shots, in car cams and no flow or rhythm to this race.
heard on Gordon's radio that the car is really laying over on the right tire -- sounds like a lot of people are too loose, but i sure wish my guy had a good car.
Charlie, it is amazing.
Debby -- I agree about Trevor -- seems like winning too soon in the big time just causes issues down the road for the young guys.
With the tight shots, in car cams, etc, this could be any track anywhere on any day. If they didn't tell us where it was, it would be a guessing game.
Boring Race, Boring Telecast.
Durrl, that's not they question that everyone asks you, and you know it. That's the question that your little brain translates it into.
(I know - I ended my sentence with a preposition. The right way sounded too awkward...)
I think monitoring the teams to hear when they plan on green flag pitting is a fundamental broadcast production headsup. How could they have missed that?
If you guys think this broadcast sucks, flip over to CBS. KU is within 2!! 46-44, big finish coming up!!
Are they trying to get all their commercial breaks out of the way? This is a ridiculous amount of commercials close together.
Fox does race breaks from commercials still.
Studio chat. Few lines from the booth. In car shots to in car shots. Shot of one car. Commercial.
This race really could use a caution about now.
I am listening to Gordon's scanner on trackpass and using pit command to follow the race since watching the race on TV is not worth the electricity or the aggravation. That plus twitter and everyone here, I've got it covered.
Attendance must be awful if they are hiding the stands in their camera coverage. It's a long race, but I'm surprised that all the Toyota's are out front. The Ford's usually run good at this track. Looks like Biffle is back in the pack again with Kesolowski. That Busch kid could be really tough this year.
Say what you will about the Fox coverage, but the thing they showed in the pre-race of Hammond getting a tan was really funny.
I like that Mike Joy apologized for insulting NJ last week. They must've gotten a lot of heat.
Hammond has been having a great year on TV. His appearances on RaceDay with Steve Byrnes have been great. He always pokes fun at himself.
Just a thought, someone please enlighten me. Why do they show the leaderboard without the time intervals, if they do in fact have the technology to do so? I'm not talking about when they show car make or starting position below the names, but show names and car numbers only. Unless there's a technical problem, it seems like they're shorting the viewer of information just because they can.
No sarcasm there.
To clarify - I realize they're in pit stops but this practice does happen during green flag runs.
Why have a closeup on a crew member during green flag racing?
Good questions, this is rapidly becoming a very weird telecast.
This is just boring. Wish there were something else on cable.
In the meantime, chitchatting on forums and playing a zombie version of Oregon Trail.
I wanna sit around and stare at one car, I'll bundle up and go look at mine in the driveway.
These zombies are somethin' fierce, let me tell ya!
71 laps in and nothing going on. I don't even like basketball and I'm thinking of tuning to the game.
@alex:
They do, at times. Sometimes it's intervals behind the leaders, sometimes it's simply position, and onces in a great while they show lap times.
Coming back from comm'l is as long as the damn comm'l. Oh great, caution, back to commercials.
Anon - no one insults NJ without getting heat for it!! LOL
I like Hammond -- I like his tech explanations on race hub a lot.
Zombie Oregon Trail? Nice. Add bacon and sharks with freakin' lasers on their heads and that would be awesome...
What a joke. Debris my ***.
(mounts spoapbox, elbows Slander out of way)
Ya'll know I just do not get this mania with hiding the empty seats. As I noted at Bristol there were tons of Day tripper in the campgrounds and day parking tailgaing with satellites and sacnners. They just did not want to pay the huge amnt ($93 for cheapest I think) price to get in, but they wanted to be at the race.
The fault is the promoters and NA$Car IMO. They just do not get the fact that a race is as much a social occasion as an athletic competition.
(steps down)
@ GinaV24 - I think it was your comment about cement shoes that made him apologize. I don't think he knew what he was messing with...
Dude, careful with the ribs. I bruise easily...
Frankly, I don't mind these mysterious "debris" cautions when the race gets stringed out like this.
They have a decent crowd today at Auto Club. Much better than years previous
@Ginav24
I'll amplify later so check tomorrow or Tues :)
In the meantime Thanx!
Anon 4:17 -- I'll take credit for it! Hey never mess with big haired Jersey girls! LOL
Ancient -- applause for your speech! NASCAR still continues to miss the point -- this is supposed to be FUN!!
Now we'll probably have a rash of yellows from here on out.
Heheh...here ya go, Slander: --www.hatsproductions.com/organtrail.html-- edit as necessary.
For the record, I really liked NJ, and back in the day, I wanted to move there. Granted, this was closer to Roselle Park than other places.
On topic...just love seeing baseball ads while racing type stuff is going on. I feel so...valued...as a member of their key demographic.
Here we go, five minutes of real racing!
I agree that the broadcast team in the booth needs to be changed, it is so stale that it is ridiculous. DW needs to be put out to pasture forever, tired of his mouth and ego. Let Mike Joy do what he is good at and that is ply by play, much better yesterday with AB doing it.
Ancient - I will check -- thanks
@GinaV - My hair may not be as big as yours but I am a Jersey Girl too! How about we go gopher-clubbing?
Same Anon as before.....
Still feel bad for Joy, you have to wonder what he could do if FOX turned him loose and told DW to shut it.
Hey Sophia
I Like your comments on Simone. and are you calling Danica a diva and crybaby?
Hmmm interesting
just came in from tearing out ornamental grasses/trimming.
Is Kenny Schrader still in the race? As I went out in the yard at start of race, he was on pit road :(
Anon -- you crack me up -- actually I don't have big hair but I have definitely got lots of attitude! I will definitely join in the gopher hunting -- esp now since they gave digger a girlfriend again -- I sure don't want them propogating!!
Stupid zombies keep attacking me, and if I were tied down to a chair, I'd hope to be sitting on nails for the distraction.
I don't think I bought enough beer for this Sunday.
This...just...isn't...watching...a...race. Seen more exciting stuff on a freeway in rush hour.
Addition - I really liked ESPN's improvements for the NW race. Think they got the message.
Fox is like watching Charlie Sheen edit a movie filmed by crackheads trying to get everything recorded so they can sell the cameras later for drugs.
BTW, Danica got bumped back one in the finishing order because they judged her contact that broke her wing for the 2nd time avoidable.
OSBORNK said...
With the tight shots, in car cams, etc, this could be any track anywhere on any day. If they didn't tell us where it was, it would be a guessing game
I've said that for years....with camera work could be bristol, could be dega, could be Prague :)
NOT FUNNY...sigh
If you want excitement, tune in to the last 1:40 of the game.
well, I just can't win with this race -- either I switch back over and they are in commercial OR I tune back in and they are talking about Johnson. My idea of really bad timing.
ooooh wait, I got a little bit of joy there - showing the 24 car for just a fe minutes
Charlie Sheen... crackheads... you know, that would explain a lot.
JD said:
"BTW, Danica got bumped back one in the finishing order because they judged her contact that broke her wing for the 2nd time avoidable"
1. That is what you get when you have "Race Stewards"
2. I did not see that contact Did U?
4. If fact, will we ever see the infraction?
There are many ironies with Danica. St. Pete is a street course. Danica doesn't run well on street courses and road courses. She's best(?) on ovals in open wheel cars. I think Mike Joy has lost a step(s). I don't find him as enjoyable---too much mindless trivia.
Yeah let's all go buy the 4-G face melter to watch this crap on..."Did you see the pass in turn two?....no they didn't show it". UGH!!!
Oh...I guess nobody is really noticing, but at halfway who is leading?
To quote lyrics to "Yellow Submarine":
"...All t'gether now!"
geez, are we just now at half way? 2 hrs of my life, gone.
I flipped over the basketball for a minute. What caused the caution?
Nvm, they said Gilliand shredded one.
24 seconds til Cinderella goes to the ball.
well at least there really IS debris.
Slander, I suspect that Charlie and his glassblowing, pipemaking gang of nutjob friends would actually do this racing a better service.
This is actually a lot more like a really bad reality show by 14 years on Youtube than a race. I've seen more ads, and more everything-that-is-not-cars than anything else.
Doing good on the zombie game tho.
AR, they replayed it. She ran over the rear wheel of a backmarker.
Ancient - at least you have a reason to be happy!
Mr Editor -
Pardon my going off subject, but did ya ever think the boys from Shafer Street would ever make the Final Four ...go RPI (oops, showing my age there) ...go VCU
Walter
Ancient, legit question - if Kyle's doing okay, how come Logano and Hamlin seem to be running into issues?
I can't make sense of it.
Walter,
I was the sports editor for the Commonwealth Times in college!
Pretty happy boy right now.
Just got back home from the horse farm and caught up on the race from here. Glad I haven't missed anything...not that I thought I would. Now I can finish my housework with the sound off the TV and check here to see what's really happening!
There were 4 teams from Virginia in the NCAA tournament and VCU was the least likely to go to the final four. My daughter in Tidewater will be thrilled.
@JD
Thanks I guess I missed it.
My point still stands about "Race Stewards". Sounds like something around when the Queen's Corgies get loose in the garden ;)
Thank goodness for the 'Mythbusters' marathon on Discovery Channel. Gives me something else that's really interesting to watch while I 'watch' the race here.
@Anon/J
Because he is Kyle.
"'Nuff Sed!"
(As the great Stan Lee would pen)
geez, the 24 car's back in the middle of the pack again. 3 positions forward, 4 back! daggone it.
Why are they showing practice footage during a race?? Geez...this is unwatchable really. If I didn't have the radio on, I wouldn't have a clue what was happening. And 3 camera changes in less than 10 secs makes me want to hurl my lunch!
OK, I meant to write previously, if your fav driver is KyBusch or TS then you would be much happier with this broadcast than me!
I'm on the computer and looked up a few minutes ago as the leaderboard ticker was at the final positions, and the names and car numbers were colored gray. I wonder if it was a technical issue, but if FOX is showing cars out of the race in grayscale, then that's fine by me. Easier to tell who's still on the track without paying attention to the intervals.
Is FSU still in the tourney?
Only possible school left I went to or my extraordinarly dim but expensive kids have/are going to :)
Pammm, isn't it interesting? It is almost impossible to know what is going on from the FOX telecast.
They seem to do Daytona and then just slowly crumble until their part of the season is over.
Meanwhile, a lot of the same personalities are with us all year on SPEED and do a fine job.
Weird....
How ironic they come back from break to a gopher sleeping in a rocking chair. Wow.
JD
I think all races should be on Speed, but I know you have said that should not be a NASCAR only net and I agree.
My question/curious point is Speed is a Rupert thing too? So why does FOX suck and Speed does not in terms of our home experience.
You're the expert. I only produce scripted or news. Never sports. Never
Ancient, c'mon. I understand and respect your enthusiasm, but it was a serious question from a 2 series watchin' n00b.
JGR is a pretty extensive team, and the mechanical failures don't add up. Kyle zooms along, two screwed up motors.
Educate me, man.
And the trolls rear their heads!
I just realized that Fox has considerably more respect for their non-North American viewers than they do for us. They continue their live track feed all the way through that retarded cartoon rat's shenanigans.
Roland, I thought they were showing my husband in his recliner!
@Vicky_D:
I think Durrl just found this board and was merely introducing himself to us...
It's really amazing having the sound from the TV while I'm not watching. I have NO clue what is going on in the race at all. Getting no useful information from the booth at all. That is really sad.
Slander & JD - I have figured out Digger. It's a TRIBBLE! Explains why it won't die and always shows up!
Nope. Tribbles were cute and hated Klingons. I think the booth and producers now qualify as Klingons.
In-car shots, single car shot, Kyle Busch and Tony Stewart then back to commercial.
@Anon/J
Part of it, and not an insignificant part of it, is attitude. KyBu will drive it to death. Right tp the gates of perdidtion and beyond.
Look at Hoemsead last year. He could not win, so he did a sacrifice block and ended his season in flames. He gets behind the wheel and just does not care. Drive it 'till it dies.
And KyBu just passed the great Gelenn "Fireball" Roberts. My first fav. I was there at Charlotte in '64 with my Daddy and I'll never forget it.
What about this is bringing in new fans? Keeping old fans? Encouraging sponsors?
I don't get it.
Nope. Neither Klingons nor tribbles. Wrong universe.
Try Jar-Jar Binks...
"Meesa sell t-shirts?"
How can anyone have a clue as to what is going on without the ticker? The pictures and the bobble heads don't tell us anything.
Ancient - talent and guts, I agree there. Thank God I'm new to this sport, but I'll say this - he's the next Earnhardt. Guy drives like a shark.
No dispute there.
What I'm wondering is - and frankly, you know way more than I do - why is it Logano and Hamlin go 'splodey, and Kyle doesn't?
You know full well he doesn't overdrive the car or motor that much.
I'm curious about the team dynamics and engine building and the like.
Far as his wins - he wants to. Luckily for him, he's learning to maybe not wreck people as much. :)
JD, obviously, neither Nascar, BZF, nor the TV networks have clue #1 as to why people were dedicated to this sprot for so many years. Not a clue.
Vince, you need to stop watching that weird Denny Hamlin commercial -- your fantasies are way out there -- LOL, either that or you are bored out of your mind with this broadcast.
Slander, do you really see anyone on here buying a Digger t-shirt?
Maybe a charity drive to catapult his creator into the Atlantic Ocean, sure. But I just don't see the enthusiasm. Everyone hates Digger.
The production crew screwed up---they inadvertently showed a bit of the grandstands. Just got a glimpse, but more people then I thought. Edwards has been disappointing so far. Supposedly Logano and Hamlin had the same proble. Not clear what it was. If it wasn't electrical and the vital readings were good, then I agree, it was something in the top end. The hooker was that they saw the problem on one of the spark plugs. Usually, that would be due to a piece of a valve closing up the gap or a holed piston having been melted.But there wasn't smoke coming out of it. We'll never know. They are really secretive on the cause of engine failures. On Lap 2, Denny ran Kyle low. Last year, I believe it was the All-Star Race, Denny fenced Kyle. I love team mates like that.
@Anon/J
True. I'd have to get into the shop to know that. Though I hold a hard card I do not know what goes on "in there" at JGR. JD nor Coach has let me in to snoop.
Kyle has blown up his share of times though. He hates it. Makes a scene then -- or used to. But now he is married and they say that has changed him. By the gods of racing I pray not too much.
@JD
This aint doing a thing to get new fans. They want to see stuff. We, at least, can see what probably is going on in our minds. As I have said innumerable times: You in Producer's cahir; me at Pre-vis is the only certain answer (as of today)
This year, I may have the chance to go to the 2nd Phoenix race. Sort of a combo race weekend/family reunion (haven't seen my family since '84, so I'm really looking forward to it...)
Even though I hate the show with a passion, I might show up for the Trackside filming. Before I do, though, I'll buy a Rat plushie. That way I can, at the appropriate moment, hold it up to the cameras, hanging in effigy at the end of a stick.
leader only ahead by one. The field is tightening up. Pretty exciting.
Oh, I am watching golf.
When did the network decide they didn't need to call the races anymore?
Week after week the booth neglects to call the race. Lock them in a room with Barney Hall and the boys so these Fox clowns will learn how to call a race! There is no coherent presentation of the entire racing action that is occurring on the track. Pitiful.
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